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Some Very Good News For Newcastle Fans About Benitez

9:03 am, Sunday, March 13th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 83 Comments

Here´s an excellent informative tweet that lists Rafa Benitez´ first 10 games in charge at his six previous clubs and his minimum points total is 17.

With 17 points from our last 10 games we would be on 41 points and probably safe this season.

Of course those are good teams  and not like Newcastle, who are currently second bottom of the Premier League.

Rafa also had a pre-season at each of those clubs before his first game,  not just 3 days like at Newcastle – as he was brought in to take over from the woeful Steve McClaren,  with just 10 games remaining.

So it will be a lot more difficult for him at Newcastle and we didn´t even mention some of the wimps we have in the squad.

The Leicester City game tomorrow night is starting to look huge – and we have to get off to a good start with a good result at the King Power Stadium.

rafa benitez in training

Rafa Benitez in training yesterday

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83 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ron Knee // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    So if he can do for us what he did for Liverpool. Second match a win!

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    What train of thought even considered Mclaren and how did they discuss it.
    “Right we’ve identified Steve Mclaren as being the closest to Pardew as we can get, the only tricky bit is that he doesn’t want to come here and if he gets Derby promoted he says he’s definitely stopping there, some nonsense about control of transfers and being a manager. But, and this is the good bit, if he’s an abject failure, Derby will sack him and we won’t have to pay any compo, he’s desperate to manage in the PL and let’s face it, I don’t think Spurs will poach him ( chuckle chuckle) win win then lads”
    Not once did they consider his failure at Derby meant he was a failure and is a failure, why would you allow that at your club.

  • 3 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    that would be very nice ron

  • 4 firebug666 // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    Not sure about the game tomorrow hope for a point, but I reckon we will win the derby and Norwich games.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    All he has to do is equal his worst points tally and we’re safe. What a crying shame we never done this right after the Chelsea debacle.

  • 6 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Ian Cathro seems more involved and animated than he ever did under McClaren.

  • 7 sparky55 // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:18 AM


    Nothing to do with ability…it’s always about the money. Ashley just wanted to survive in the premiership with as little associated cost as possible.

    no dreaming of Europe or cups as per their pre season statement 3 years ago…it was always about the cheapest running costs they could get by with so from that perspective Maclaren fitted the bill perfectly irrespective of the fact he was always gonna be sh!te and taking us down was always on the cards

    The arrogance in their thinking is astounding…they thought it would never be a problem staying up with average Head coaches in charge but they got found out and have gone a full 180 degrees to go in the exact opposite direction because they’ve all a sudden realised it ain’t quite as easy as that.

    Pathetic management

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    We’d have beaten Stoke if we’d gone for it. I hope that’s the last we see of Tutankahim in a Toon shirt, I have never seen such a waste of space against Bournemouth running for the sake of it jumping in to thin air for crosses ten yards behind of in front of him, jumping for the sake of jumping.

  • 9 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:21 AM

    Jail for Ashley

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:24 AM

    I never understood why the only bit of honesty we had out of them was that we didn’t want to win a cup when it would have been just as easy to say we did. Mclaren wasn’t brought here for success at all but as you say to survive while the club thought they’d make a few quid on ‘astute’ purchases like Mitro and Wijnaldum.

  • 11 anthc // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    17 points are achievable with our remaining fixtures however, it’s a big ask. I think we are getting ahead of ourselves with benitez coming in. Yes he’s a good manager but when you think we’ve took 24 points from 28 games and expect benitez to get 17pts from 10 games?
    I’m still not convinced, our defence is depleted and we can’t score goals. I hope he does it however, we need to take it one game at a time as there are no easy games in the league. Anything at Leicester would be a massive result although if we show fight like norwich yesterday and sunderland last week then that would be a massive improvement.

  • 12 sparky55 // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM


    nothing Ashley did made and sense…only in his mind did he have the perfect cunning plan.

    Doing what he’s just done is actually a big embarrassing admission as to how wrong he was.

    I sincerely hope the lesson is well and truly learnt and still hope he’ll sell but doubt he will.

  • 13 Ian Toon // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    That is not to say Benítez is free to do whatever he wants at Newcastle but that he has a standing far beyond that of his predecessors. In the past, Ashley has tended to employ head coaches with few options elsewhere: Steve McClaren, John Carver, Alan Pardew, Chris Hughton. These men have accepted the job on the conditions dictated. Newcastle need Benítez much more than Benítez needs Newcastle, and he will be at liberty to speak his mind to a much greater degree.
    Should he secure Premier League survival, it is hard to imagine that Benítez will put up with any of the indignities visited upon his predecessors, especially not the minority stake in deciding new signings or the impossible relationship with the media. In fact, that might be changing already with the club now making moves to lift unconditionally their ban on this paper.
    Benítez might not be able to change the conditions for the workers at Shirebrook but at least you would hope there is someone in a position of power at Newcastle, at the heart of the Ashley operation, who might be able to exert some kind of reason and, dare one say it, humanity.
    Benítez has been prone to his own challenging moments in the past, but during his interim period in charge at Chelsea he demonstrated an aspect to his character that had not always been visible in the past. He felt he was being bullied by elements of the club’s support and had no choice but to stand up to them. By the sounds of it, there are no shortage of bullies at Newcastle either, and some of them might benefit from that fact being pointed out.
    Benítez is after all, a coach who won trophies that have never crossed the threshold at St James’ Park in the club’s 123-year history and he walks into the club with a status that demands respect.
    If he could leave Newcastle United a better place, that alone would rank among his greatest achievements.

  • 14 Ian Toon // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    Sam Wallace – Sunday Supplement/The Times.

  • 15 martoon // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Ian Toon. I’m thrilled with Rafa I just hope that he doesn’t get p*ssed off with the things you mention and walk away.

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Anyone got a link to the inter5with Mclaren where he says he would have kept us up

  • 17 Laurent Robert 32 // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    It’s good that he’s already said he’s seen things that need to be changed. Maximising time efficiency having them in each day, great.

    As I’ve said for years, the players need to be told they CAN do good things, that they CAN play a certain way and should fear nobody that they play. Only then can they find that indecision is limited, and better, calmer and more controlled ball movement can occur.

    Acceptance of ‘tired’ etc on a regular basis should not be put into the players heads, and Rafa is already starting to change their mindsets to believe that they can be positive and have a real determination and drive to achieve successful goals.

    It feels like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders already, although there’s a lot of hard work to get through in the last 10 games and I’m eager to see the game tomorrow night.

  • 18 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Interview? ?

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    I’ve spoke to loads of people over the weekend and everyone is excited not one person has denounced it as a con trick but are genuinely excited about the future if we stay up. Going to be a lot harder getting tickets now. The ground will be buzzing.
    I wonder what his song will be.
    ” You’re not a fat Spanish waiter” ???

  • 20 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    Does Shelvey look like he has a bit of stubble on his bonce in that photo?

  • 21 Ron Knee // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:47 AM


    Is this what you mean?

  • 22 JamesToon // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Will be a very good atmosphere v sunderland,

    however tomorrow night is a big game and the pressure is on leiecster. I reckon rafa will tell them to keep it tight and disciplined at the back and not let vardy have space in behind, then we should have pace and power for the counter attack with mitro, gini, sissoko and wijnaldum

  • 23 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:51 AM

    Sounds like you are genuinely excited about all this Jail..

  • 24 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:52 AM

    I’ve just had another look at that graphic posted by the Dutch kid on Twitter shown at the top of the page.
    60 Games 7 losses – Wow !!!!!!!

  • 25 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

    a point at leicester would be massive a big lift to the fans a big lift to the city onward and upward just love the buzz of rafa

  • 26 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Rafa is used to quality squads when he picks up points, not our flops, we’ll still be relegated our squad has to many flaws.
    Our better player’s may step up, it’s the rest, they have no extra quality to step up to.

  • 27 scout // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Toon kk
    I would hate to be in a pub with you.

  • 28 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Shelvey has had href=””>alopecia areata since he was a bairn . He probably shaves his nut once a day.
    It’s a nervous condition it’ll probably go away when he wins a trophy – 😎

  • 29 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    try again

  • 30 Jib // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

    It’s called alopecia areata

  • 31 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    I thought the condition was such that his hair didn’t grow at all. Obviously not so.

  • 32 Lindisfarne // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    We’re off to see the wizard, The Wonderful Wizard of Toon.
    We hear he is a whiz of a Wiz,
    If ever a Wiz there was.

    If ever, oh ever a Wiz there was,
    The Wizard of Toon is one because
    Because, because, because, because, because
    Because of all the wonderful things he does
    Do-do do do-do do do do-do.
    We’re off to see the wizard, The Wonderful Wizard of Toon.

    If we believe it will be. Maybe not in the first match but miracles are already occurring.

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Very, if we can stay up we’ll get to see something we never thought possible, a trophy in our lifetime and success under Ashley. He surely can’t fcuk it up this time.

  • 34 martoon // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    Toon kk @26 – I don’t think our squad is that bad – in the right hands I think we could have been mid-table. Admittedly the defence is probably our weakest part – but as shown many times on MOTD with a bit of organisation it could be better – hopefully Rafa and his coaches will be able to improve our defence.

  • 35 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Jail, I reckon I’m as much of a naysayer as anyone on this blog, but I’m going along for the ride with you.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    If we get those 17 points then the Wally with the brolly might have been one of the best things ever to happen to us.

  • 37 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    morning all
    theres a canny article on newsnow from jamie carragher just warning toon fans that the football maybe a bit dire at first as rafa likes to tighten things up defensively first before anything else and not to expect miracles ,but he is a great manager and is very organised and the best he’s work with at setting up teams….worth a read to put level expectations….im not trying to piss on anyones chips, but like rafa said… calmness is required.

  • 38 Harley // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM

    I wonder what he was seeing that made him think he could’ve kept us up. 3/4 of a season gone and in the relegation zone, playing as bad as we’ve ever played, lost the players and then ultimately the fans.

    The guy is delusional. I don’t know if it’s bravado or he genuinely believes it. You have to feel for those people, like carver too. People who genuinely believe they are the bees knees but proved wrong at every turn but its just water off a ducks back and they just keep going.
    I used to work with a guy like this, it was unbelievable watching and listening to him. I don’t know if it’s a gift or a curse.

  • 39 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    We have a good squad, unfortunately it hasn’t a proven striker and most of all no defenders, well it doesn’t look as if we have.
    But let’s hope Rafa can motivate our players to at least giving 100%.

  • 40 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Toon kk
    you may be right but in Rafa we have a top coach who with just a bit of luck luck and a lot of effort we could stay up i total agree a lot of the squad just aren’t good enough but we do have players in the squad with Rafa and his coaches could improve greatly …….if we go down so be it but with Rafa a lest we will go down fighting no one will just roll over

  • 41 Novocastrian66 // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    After the euphoria of Friday, reality is setting back in and I cannot see us stopping up. The Bournemouth result was a killer blow.

  • 42 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    Agree with you – to stay up we need a LOT a LOT of LUCK to stay up.

    Sadly I cannot seeing us staying up – we do not have a defence and a goalscorer.

    And Fat Sam knew what he wanted to strengthen the Mackems and got in the players he needed for a relegation battle.
    Biggest battle is going to be between Norwich and the Mackems for the third bottom place.

    The TOON went for more midfielders and when every supporter knew what we were crying out for.

    If we go down which is likely I hope RAFA stays and is able to build a team that he wants to bring us back up.

    Anyway – anyone know who the defender was after the Everton game was who said ‘No one gives a Fuc*’ going down the tunnel?

    Got it in one lad!

  • 43 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM

    I totally agree mate, Rafa has given everyone hope, with Wally the only hope we had was no hope.
    Hopefully our players will step up and prove something. But after watching so much dross for so long our players have a lot to prove.
    I just worry we don’t have the players in defence to avoid the drop.

  • 44 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    Do you fancy going for a pint mate? Ha.

  • 45 21st Century Schizoid Man // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    toon kk

    Doumbia is a proven striker, almost everywhere he has played.
    Mitro had a great record, admittedly in a lower level league.
    We are not without striking options, especially in a 4231 with 3 good AMs

  • 46 Ian Toon // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    Jib- “This blog is devoted to Learning the Lessons of the Past. Even more importantly, this blog is devoted to applying these lessons of the past to making decisions in the present and to planning for the future.”

  • 47 Ron Knee // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    McClaren is still there on the home page!

  • 48 AncientC // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    I am hazarding a guess Benitez will put Tiote and Sissoko in the defensive midfield positions. Wijnaldum left, Shelvey central, Townsend right – sitting behind Cisse if fit, if not then Perez.

    I would say there is a high chance that Wijnaldum will be the first player substituted under Benitez, that is if he starts and isn’t following the ball back towards goal as much as he should be.

    Goodness knows what the back line is going to look like, no fit left-backs, and a right-back who Benitez will not want crusading up the pitch and leaving his station. It is unlikely, but still possible that Anita plays RB, Janmaat and Lascelles play CB, with Colback at LB.

    Whatever the outcome, how refreshing will it be to read a team sheet for a Premier League game with some progressive changes – after years of reading dull, uninspired, repetitive team sheets… week after week, season after season.

  • 49 martoon // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Novocastrian66 @41 – Bournemouth doesn’t matter – our fight is with Norwich and the makems – we’ve only got to get 2 more points than them in the remaining games to stay up – which I think with Rafa is possible 🙂

  • 50 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    let’s hope Doumbia gets a good run out and gets us the goals we need,until he starts banging the goals in we can’t call him a proven striker. although I like Mitrovic as a player, his work rate is usually high but he needs to start scoring. Tbh he’s one for the future with great potential.

  • 51 Essex Geordie Bill // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    I’d be amazed if Perez doesn’t start.

    I’d be disappointed if Taylor does.

    Anita could be the surprise starter.

  • 52 Lindisfarne // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    “I can’t remember ever seeing Rafa at this end of the table,” Carragher told Sky Sports News HQ. “That’s why I’m interested in seeing how he goes about it. That’s why I’m interested in seeing how he manages, how he prepares his players.

    “Motivation? That’s not Rafa’s biggest strength. He will look at how they suffer tactically. Rafa was probably the best I had with setting up a back four. There’s probably going to be a lot of repetition and he won’t apologise for that.

    “Those players will work hard – whoever they’re playing, it will be a difficult game for them. It won’t be the open expansive style the fans want, for now he will be focusing on trying to make Newcastle difficult to beat.”

  • 53 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    gini on left doe’snt work at all…well didnt for nacca and not convinced sissoko is aggressive enough for c/m….it will be very interesting to see what shape and who plays where under rafa tho?….apparently he never lets the players know till an hour before kick off who’s playing so might be interesting

  • 54 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    Rafa may or may not pick what we would pick or like as a set up but he’s going to need time to get our best team formation set up.
    Unfortunately we have very little options in defence.

  • 55 AncientC // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    SPRINGY – Wijnaldum has scored most of his goals from the left. He has not exactly worked central either, maybe 1 good game playing central. I do not think Rafa will trust to play him central, but we will soon find out.

  • 56 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    thats the article i meentioned earlier

    toon kk
    would like to see doumbia start myself….he has pace,scores and his movement is good….needs games to sharpen up tho,if we are to see anywhere near the best of him.

  • 57 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    we may see a different attitude from players that surprise….need to see a different attitude is better…..then they may be able to play in certain positions like sissoko central…gini left,right or thru the middle….up to them to show it then rafa may pick them….but theres a chance a few could be dropped as well!…..all to be seen over the next few games

  • 58 beermonkey // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    springy / lindisfarne

    i havent got a problem with him sorting the defence it would be nice to finish a season with a + goal diff

  • 59 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    i would like to see perez thru the middle, townsend left gini right if sissoko could play cm with shelvey but doubt that will happen

  • 60 The overrated Frenchman // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    I wonder if Rafa will find a place for de Jong? He might put value on his technical ability that McClaren didn’t.

  • 61 geordie157 // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    It will be interesting to see how he sets us up.

    I think if fit Townsend and doumbia will start as pace gives us a threat.

    Could see a front four diamond if he likes De jong, with gini right, Townsend left, doumbia up top. Shelvey and ? Sitting in front of the back four with shelvey having more movement up front or the option to hit de jong who holds the ball up.

    Just hope the players are as excited as the fans are!

  • 62 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    be nice for a change!lol

  • 63 Lindisfarne // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    beermonkey – that would be something to look forward to

    springy – source of article skysports ‘pundits’

  • 64 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    i would like to see de jong play but really dont know where he’ll fit in…..some how tryin to mould sissoko,shelvey,gini,de jong, townsend,dombia,perez,mitro into a midfield and forward line is nye on impossible…..8 players there and can only play six….then they still need to graft and tackle….shelvey and townsend have shown they can graft to be fair……there is talent there… getting them to work is why rafa’s here….hopefully

  • 65 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Yes I agree mate, I would really like to see Doumbia up front, I can only think Wally thought he wasn’t fit enough for 90 mins, or couldn’t see his potential.

  • 66 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    i read it on newsnow, so they got it from there most likely…..i just thought it was a decent article to calm the expectations, incase.. the next few games were tight and boring as a some may expect good football from the off and if its not moans may start….thats all

  • 67 beermonkey // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:12 PM


    wouldnt it just

    not sure who will line up but i do suspect we will line up 4231

    he will use shelvey as a deep lying playmaker
    think he might stick with mitro just cos we keep the ball better with him

    but really its all guess work he will take on board what cathro has to say and what he has seen in the last few days

    are we in today as well

  • 68 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    if this lot of players wont work for Rafa they wont work for anyone we have to hope Rafa and his coaches can fire them up ……i for one think he can…….. just hoping for a solid performance and a point on monday with the new manager bounce

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Anyone know what defenders we have fit

  • 70 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    beer monkey
    aye they are in again today from what he said at press conference i believe..
    4-2-3-1 is his preferred formation by all acoounts so i would agree with u on that…mitro does hold the ball up well but there with leicesters big cb’s battering him more movement may be a better option….will be interesting actually looking forward to it and not fearing the worst…..strange feeling!!lol

  • 71 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    £2m payoff and being talked about for the Boro job hard to believe

  • 72 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    are u talking about sissoko playing central?

  • 73 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    dummet defo out,colo,mbabu,haidara scheduled to back for this game, mbemba next week obviously taylor and lascelles still available…dont know if this will help as im not sure how accurate… just local reports and physioroom to go off if that any help

  • 74 hibbitt // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:26 PM


    no the squad in general to many player didn’t turn up or just could not be arsed ………happy to see who Rafa picks and were he plays them

  • 75 beermonkey // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM


    not sure who is back mbemba is due back isnt he

  • 76 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    ah ok mate

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    Reading between the lines from comments made by Rafa and a couple of the players I get the distinct feeling that some of the players were not happy with Wally Blusterman – and if he had not lost the dressing room totally he was working towards it.
    This increases my optimism that there will be a Rafa effect from now on. 2 -1 win tomorrow night.

    Performing Miracles.
    I like the vision of these “disabled ” players -after the laying on of hands from Rafa – they throw away their crutches and are whole again.
    Saint Rafa of the Toon.

  • 78 G // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Those shouting for Doumbia to start ought to go over the ratings where he has played with the sprogs, doesnt sound suited to the Prem to me. Be delighted if him and Rafa make me eat my words though.

  • 79 SPRINGY // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    mr tuff
    5-1 for the win, if u fancied the bet….thinking about it myself tbh.

  • 80 beermonkey // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:45 PM


    didnt rafa say a couple of the players he thought were injured turned up to train
    colo was there but i dont know whether he trained

  • 81 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    Even with everyone fit our back four looks horrendous , gawd knows how he’s going to make something from a patched up one, I mean is Dummet, our number 1 LB actually any better there than Colback or Anita?

  • 82 toon kk // Mar 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    That’s why I say we’ll be relegated, I know I sound negative but I call it realistic.
    Who/what is our defence?
    Rafa brings us hope and maybe the rest of our players can step up and compensate.
    I suppose our run it will be interesting and down to work ethic.

  • 83 ic0gcds00 // Mar 14, 2016 at 8:31 AM

    I greatly admire the appointment of rafa
    however the hierarchy have left it rather late in the day.
    if he can perform a miracle with this shower of shit he deserves to be made a freeman of the city and the next archbishop of newcastle.
    so rafa annoint the worst players in the premiership please before tonite and get them to repent

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