Former star striker Tino Asprilla is like the rest of us and very upset at the way our players performed yesterday at Southampton when too many of them didn’t seem to care.
Those same players will be the ones clamoring to get out of the club just as soon as possible once the season ends and we are a Championship club.
Asprilla also takes a swipe at the club itself and says they don’t seem to care either.
Tino Asprilla – they don’t care
Can’t get upset by the @nufc result. The club and the players seem not to care… Very sad!
— Faustino Asprilla ? (@TinoasprillaH) April 9, 2016
165 comments so far
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:10 AM
Comment #81Magpie Season
Yes I knew Colback was back after suspension but was wondering if others such as Mbabu or Dummet could figure?
Think he will play Colbeck perhaps alongside Shelvey but whilst an improvement on Gini in that role is still a concern with his pulling back and silly free kicks. If we didn’t give so many away perhaps the back 4 could perform a little better.
I think he needs to look hard at those players who are regarded as our better players (they certainly think so) and drop them on their performances. I see that he has considered that but probably had to go with what he has and who can give more details han 30 mins but he must be pro-active now and if certain players start again not be afraid to sub them and warn them he will.
Like McClaren I think he is falling into the trap oflaying his supposedly best and experienced 11 but not necessarily best team to try and stay in games and to recover if behind. That has been failing spectacularly but he keeps thinking it worth another try. Not sure that he is now realising the error in what looks to be a common managerial ploy in difficulties but even with tactical adjustments hasn’t fixed the confidence and inabilty to work at following instructions.
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:20 AM
Comment #82Munster@80
So right. Yesterday my usual expectations had been severely dampened down to a forelorn hope for a scrappy/lucky point. Just the minds way of lessening the accumulating damage of successive and never-ending blows we are facing 🙁
Jail for Ashley
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:25 AM
Comment #83magscar,
Unfortunately the rot has set in and I don’t know what De Canio, Poyet and Advocaat done to the mackems that Rafa can’t do here, his CV is better than the three of them put together. As I’ve said before, none of us know what are in these assembled bunch of mercenaries contracts regarding relegation. If we did it might explain why none of them actually give a fcuk.
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:26 AM
Comment #84@81
more details han 30 mins should simply be than 30 mins !!
Typing on tablet outdoors in sunshine isn’t recommended.
Jail for Ashley
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:29 AM
Comment #85Anybody who thinks Bruce will end up here obviously weren’t at the Hull away game last season. The fans let it be known exactly what they thought of the ex Manc/mackem turncoat and his jig on the touchline when cebrating a rare goal against us.
Billythefish
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:32 AM
Comment #86What an embarrassment yesterday was.
It was plain for everyone to see we are a shambles. Rafa is the best we could ever hope for, it’s such a shame and disgrace that we are now been linked with Tony Fkn Pullis. Half the team have no desire or heart for a fight, the other half just ain’t good enough. the blame lies with chump Charmley and the fool G Carr. Ashley is not blameless either of these two were directors of SD they would have been sacked years ago. Inept from top to bottom, what an absolute disgrace our club has become, for all Shepherds faults we were never this poor, at least he had the balls to sack non performers. I still have hope for a miracle because I support Newcastle United.
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:32 AM
Comment #87Jfa
Contracts are one thing but as pundits keep repeating these are “professional” mercenaries. Surely scouts watching them from the so-called CL sides will be relaying concerns at their attitude issues. It should concern all scouts come to think of it!
Ron Knee
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:33 AM
Comment #88Any old fogies out there remember the Hollies’ King Midas in Reverse?
“He’s not the man to hold your trust.
Everything he touches turns to dust.”
Could it be a reference to our illustrious owner?
Bambams
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:34 AM
Comment #89I mentioned on here a few weeks ago that whilst speaking to a person who would know, at the training ground that Janmaat was trying to get a move to Juventus.
To be totally honest the bloke must have ideas of grandeur! But it does show he along with (in my opinion ) Sissoko, Wini, Haidara, Perez, Riviere will all have signed with the endorsement from Penfold that if they do well and as long as there is a profit – they will be sold.
I like Perez but he hasn’t done anything in the last 3-4 games and he doesn’t score enough. We don’t have the luxury of having potential all the time.
Elliott Mbemba Lascelles Mitro Townsend are in my opinion players who have earned their wages –
Shelvey I thought would do well but….unless he is another looking for a move !
No more Janmaat please and keep Taylor away from the team sheet
ilovetoon8788
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM
Comment #90@billy
this is what happens when we recruit players and giving them long contracts and then promising them a move if they do well. we are only used a stepping stone.
is it any surprise not a single player gives a F about our club?
ilovetoon8788
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:40 AM
Comment #91@bambams
bar the first game, shelvey has been atrocious in the rest. no way should he be captain too. he can’t even dictate our play and slowing us down when needed with short passes.
i lost count how many balls he lost yesterday.
martoon
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:46 AM
Comment #92Ron Knee – you asked yesterday if anybody had predicted our current position in predictions I did at the start of the season.
The answer is nobody did but the closest two are
John Tudor 16th with 44 points
Shot Bru 16th with
Novocastrian66
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:47 AM
Comment #93Why was Janmatt hooked after 40 mins?
martoon
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Comment #94Slip of the finger:
John Tudor 16th with 44 points
Shot Bru 16th with 39 points
danmuamua
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Comment #95When we go down we need to buy
Jake Bidwell
Alan Judge
Danny Bathe
Lewis Dunk
Tom Ince
Will Hughes
Britt Assombalonga
Conor Coady
Lewis Cook
martoon
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:49 AM
Comment #96Novocastrian66 @93 – He wasn’t hooked the wimp was pretending he was injured so he didn’t have to play anymore!!!
Ron Knee
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:53 AM
Comment #97martoon
Thanks for that. So nobody saw complete calamity then!
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:55 AM
Comment #98Lesh@78
If Ashley wants to come back up (if we go down) and retain a sizeable fan base then keeping his dream team or parachuting Llambias in seems a gamble even he would see as suicide! He must throw away his blueprint.
Interestingly I was perhaps one of the few unimpressed with Ashley’s take over or his liaisons with fans in his early days. Never having heard of him and without an apparent allegiance to NUFC or football didn’t fill me with confidence. Never saw what was to come though but tried in my usual way as with managers to give him a chance.
On KK I loved his first time here – the best football in my lifetime with not even SBR matching it overall. However I wasn’t pleased when he left (running away?) and his later abandoning ship at England and other clubs left me chastened. His second coming felt like appeasement to fans but like Shearer he was another King across the water that I suppose had to be purged. Not surprised that he walked again notwithstanding the provocation but couldn’t he have tried to fight from within than leave us then. Not looking back with rose tinted glasses hypnotised by his first spell here leads me to thinking he wasn’t up to the fight and got out whilst he still had a case for constructive dismissal. His call I know and respect his decision but not for canonising him over it.
Newcastle for alltid
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM
Comment #99Yesterday was the first time in years that I haven`t made an effort to watch the game. When the games aren`t selected for broadcast on Norwegian TV, I usually try hard to find a working stream.
But yesterday I found myself not wanting to watch the game at all. Just thinking about it made me feel sick. The last couple of weeks have been to completely negative in terms of the players` mentality, work-rate and general attitude that I just didn`t feel like spending 90 minutes to watch even more of it.
There`s always the same mid-week-talk from the players that “now is the time to perform”, “we haven`t been good enough, so we`re rolling up our sleeves this weekend”, blablabla, but come the weekend it`s the same old poor football. No belief at all.
I was kinda hoping for an unexpected win, that I would look up the result after the game and find a heroic away-game result. But no, it turns out we get excactly what we expect with this bunch. I`ve never turned down the opportunity to watch Newcastle before, but now it`s just an ordeal.
I will keep on supporting Newcastle until the day I die, but watching them nowadays just hurts me. At least we`ll win a couple of games in the Championship, so if that`s the level of these players, so be it – we belong there then. But we won`t go straight up again this time.
Shot Bru
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:57 AM
Comment #100martoon
I was obviously too optimistic at the beginning of the season!!
Being a fan for over 40 years pessimism runs thick through my veins.
I think the future looks hopeless, this shambles is gonna take a decade to recover from.
davis_toons
Apr 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Comment #101We cannot relegate.
Novocastrian66
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:03 PM
Comment #102Cheers martoon, he threw the towel in then. Sounds about right. Didn’t watch the match as I cannot bare to watch them anymore. I’ve never felt so disenfranchised with the club as I do now.
beermonkey
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM
Comment #103did any1 see sunday supplement this morning
hibbitt
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Comment #104for me the quicker this season is over the better just don’t believe the performances of our so called top players are putting in ………if i was another club looking in i wouldn’t want them anywhere near my club so who will want to buy them ……you can forgive lack of quality but not lack of effort
JamesToon
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:11 PM
Comment #105danmuamua
Other options to add to that list:
Dominic Iorfa
Kortney Hause
Tommy Elphick
Marc Pugh
Ryan Fraser
Matt Phillips
George Thorne
Jeff Hendrick
Richard Keogh
Jason Shackell
Tom Ince
Craig Noone
Jack Hunt
Rudy Gestede
We need to build a team full of characters, leaders and grafters.
magscar
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:14 PM
Comment #106Newcastle for alltid@99
Sitting here in some long overdue sunshine should help lessen my gloomy mood after yet another calamitous and horrible performance but it is lurking there.
How can something I have loved unconditionally all my adult life give me so much grief and yet I can’t detach emotionally from it! Perhaps the clue is in the statement – unconditionally !
Family and friends struggle to understand my adolescent attachment to something that still affects my mood at weekends. I am trying though and getting off here and my mind on other matters after getting things of my chest should help 🙂
Rotonda heights
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:16 PM
Comment #107I think Carr must be squirming very uncomfortably. At least I’d like to think so. Could a poorer premier league squad have ever been assembled for the money paid out.
Top of the ticked boxes list when vetting new signings is a player’s character and personality, as well as his suitability and adaptability for the epl.
The local lads ST, JC and to a degree PD may have some heart, but are poor, bang average players with no x factor whatsoever. Since the bournemouth game I’ve lost count of how many goals the grinning loon Taylor has been responsible for.
Of course it’s not just carr, incompetence has run rife throught the corridors of power at sjp.
Poor business negotiations saw us haggle over pathetically small amounts for the likes of Dier and Alli and flog Forster for peanuts.
Swansea and spurs have successfully punted misfits like townsend and shelvey and are joined by heart of a pea merchants like Janmatt and Sissoko.
How many of carr’s favourite expensive flops: Riviere, Saivet, Gouffran, Marveaux, Haidara, Thauvin, Cabella, Obertan (AP’s choice granted) even get near the bench any more.
Shocking and seemingly totally unaccountable discrepancy. We could say it couldn’t happen to anicer bloke than Mike Ashley. sadly we are the innocent victims caught in the crossfire of this boorish, oafish pariah.
Wonga having to borrow 25m to bail them out.
A Greek tragedy couldn’t compare to NUFC.
Jail for Ashley
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM
Comment #108hibbit,
People suggesting our stars will jump ship. Worse case scenario is we get lumbered with them.
hibbitt
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM
Comment #109JamesToon
manager and board need sorted first who’s going to pick the players we want and need Mr Carr for a manager we don’t have if that’s the case its back to square one and another season of shit
Transfer Sage
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM
Comment #110This team is a total embarrassment, not to the club half as much as to themselves.
I can’t understand why you would want to turn up week in week out and not put in effort. Nobody will want to touch them. Players like sissoko had the potential to be going to champions league level clubs but can’t see any good side touching him with his lack of commitment.
I personally think we need to drop taylor, sissoko, wijnaldum and janmaat for the coming games.
No point in picking them if they aren’t committed to the team, the odd bit of flair means nothing if you let men run off you causing us to ship 2/3 goals a week.
Get in Aarons, get Armtstrong back to partner mitrovic, give Roberts a go, lascelles must start.
We have given the current experienced players 32 games and they have shown nothing. If Rafa is to go when we go down why not drop the big names and embarrass them for what they are….he wont have to deal with the consequences after anyway.
JamesToon
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:36 PM
Comment #111When we go down we won’t come straight back up, even players like gouffran, rivière, marveaux, obertan, taylor, haidara I don’t think are even good enough for the championship. I don’t care what signings we make we’re gonna have a consolidation season, or could be a lot worse especially if Ashley doesn’t get rid of the muppets running the club. the championship Is one of the most competitive leagues in the world and its about who wants it more than the others, and more and more teams in that league are getting modern young managers to bring them a style of play that sets them up for the long term e.g Bournemouth. Sheffield Wednesday had been on a 4 match winning run I think and they just lost like 4-0 to Bristol city.
Yes players like Shelvey would probably walk into any championship team but if we don’t have the characters leaders or graft to go with that then we won’t be coming back up for a long time
NezzaNUFC
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:49 PM
Comment #112Sorry for the late replies.
Slank
I wouldn’t want us to come straight back up, as Iv’e stated we need a few years in the Championship to rebuild a solid squad.
Hibbit
I understand about Karanka and you never know Middlesbourgh might not even get auto promotion, and Cathro on what I read about him has a similar style to Pep and has been touted as the next Pep.
And Laudrup? well I just liked his style at Swansea but didn’t like his attitude so don’t worry mate Laudrup was mentioned just for his style of play.
We’ve always wanted stability at Newcastle and with Cathro being 28-29 years old he can’t do any worse to what we had in the past?
Give him a season at least.
Novocastrian66
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:54 PM
Comment #113Read Rafa’s comments on yesterday’s match and they were refreshingly honest. No drivelling bull.
NezzaNUFC
Apr 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM
Comment #114I think most of our players have no option but to stay until a club want’s to take a risk on them.
Those on high wages need to be contract terminated as soon as the season is over to expand the wage budget (if no club are after them which I doubt it)
Survival or not Rafa should be given the 2 million when the season is over because he took control of these so called Newcastle players.
GeordieinOhio
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:07 PM
Comment #115I see people giving a list of players who they think will leave or who will be sold….lets be bloody realistic for once….
WHICH CLUB OR MANAGER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT ANY OF THESE WORTHLESS C@NTS!!!
NezzaNUFC
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:11 PM
Comment #116This is what should happen under the circumstances when we get relegated!?
Tim Krul (G) – sell before contract runs out
Rob Elliot (G) – sell
Karl Darlow (G) – Keep
Freddie Woodman (G) – Keep
Fabricio Coloccini (D) – sell -release
Paul Dummett (D) – keep
Jamaal Lascelles (D) – keep
Chancel Mbemba (D) – keep
Massadio Haidara (D) – keep
Darryl Janmaat (D) – sell
Steven Taylor (D) -sell – release
Curtis Good (D) – keep
Jamie Sterry (D) – keep
Kevin Mbabu (D) – keep
Callum Roberts (M) – keep
Jack Colback (M) keep
Georginio Wijnaldum (M) – sell
Moussa Sissoko (M) – sell
Vurnon Anita (M) – sell
Siem de Jong (M) – sell
Yoan Gouffran (M) – sell – release
Jonjo Shelvey (M) – sell
Gabriel Obertan (M) – sell
Rolando Aarons (M) – keep
Henri Saivet (M) – keep
Cheick Tiote (M) – sell
Andros Townsend (M) – sell or keep
Sylvain Marveaux (M) sell – release
Papiss Cisse (F) – sell
Ayoze Perez (F) – keep
Seydou Doumbia (F) – return or keep
Emmanuel Riviere (F) – sell
Aleksandar Mitrovic (F) – keep
Ivan Toney (F) – keep
other players in reserve Iv’e kept out, but this could be a start.
toon kk
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM
Comment #117It’s funny how people’s attitudes have changed, it’s not long ago I was being slated for basically telling the truth and being realistic in saying we were a poor team and we’d struggle. Many had us a top eight side, shows how much people know about our flops, they shouldn’t pull MA to bits, I’m sure he thought we’d be in the top half as well. No chance
Our current team wouldn’t survive in the championship.
It’s taken a while but most have eventually seen the light and realised we are sh.t.
Even martoon who thought we were Real Madrid
But badly managed before Rafa came along.
beefman13
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:17 PM
Comment #118Rob Elliott is the only Toon player who can hold his head above the water imo, the rest just like 2008/2009 are gutless and spineless, MA has pumped £120 million in to the football club via transfers to absolutely no avail at all, quite simply the worst season in the prem ever.
I have to add that the recruitment of Charnley has been a disaster the managers employed by the club have been a disaster, Shearer must be having a rye grin about Benitez at the moment as even he cant galvanize a struggling Toon team just like he could not it is not easy in the least is it.
Graham Carr has to take massive blame his “pals” act with the agents that he deals with i mean apart from Cabaye and maybe Debuchy “just” when has anything came good from his dealings, even financially!
How could he miss Payet at Marseille and then go for a spineless Thauvin.
MA has made to many bollocks for words regarding his choices of personel, and that is why we are in this situation, Bills im afraid its indefensible, Jail is jumping all over it, MA has put his hand in his poke but its not enough thus far.
Lindisfarne
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:24 PM
Comment #119Probably speculation at the moment and who knows who would want them:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/revealed-andros-townsend-8million-escape-7724519
SPRINGY
Apr 10, 2016 at 1:24 PM
Comment #120nezza
would keep elliot,we could of been relegated already if not for him,iwould keep sdj would make a decent captain and has experience,haidara as much as i think he’s decent,he’s constantly injured so would invest in robertson from hull if they dont go up and have haidara as back up.