Benitez – After That Display We Understand The Fans’ Feelings

Rafa Benitez is very well aware that his players badly let the club and the fans down last Saturday with that first half display when we really collapsed against Southampton.

There was no fight, no passion , no character from the players and that is simply unacceptable for Newcastle players.

We will not even mention how they let their new boss down but images of Rafa on the sidelines during that first half showed he was shocked with what was happening.

Who are these guys – he must have been thinking – and it’s now his job to turn this mess around.


Rafa Benitez – the best play seen by a Newcastle employee in that first half

He now knows who the players are – and some of them are wimps so Rafa somehow has to try to get the side winning – although that may not be possible with such losers playing for Newcastle.

He could start by dropping the wimps?

This is what Rafa said after the game – and he hit the nail on the head with most of his comments.

“It is very clear that we can say nothing to our fans, they come here to Southampton to see the team fighting and winning and we didn’t do that in the first half – so you have to understand their feelings.”

“But we will need the support from the fans, we need them behind us to drive us on and help to get a result against Swansea.”

“Character, passion, positive play, that is the very least of what is expected every game, for 90 minutes, but it’s clear that this was very much lacking in the first half.”

“That’s not a situation that we can have away from home, so we have to make changes to how we will play away from home.”

“Before that (next away game is at Liverpool) we’ll have to prepare for the next home games (Swansea next Saturday and Manchester City the following Tuesday)  and just hope we can keep the fans behind us.”

With only one point from the last 21 points played for and having to visit Aston Villa in the second last game Newcastle may even lose that game and end this season with being the worst team in the league, even though we should still end up with more points than Villa.

If the players don’t feel ashamed of themselves after Saturday’s disgrace maybe they should – and then snap out of it and start to give 100% on Saturday and in each of the last six games of the season.

They have let the club, the fans, the two managers and most of all themselves down this season – all season long.

Where’s the courage, the passion and the character?

Nowhere to be seen.

We expect Rafa to again ask on Saturday for the fans to support the players in once last huge effort to get a win for the first time in over two months against Swansea.

53 comments so far

  • Derek

    Apr 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #1

    Chances of survival are extremely small, but not as small as the chance of Newcastle being a competitive and ambious Premier League club under the Ashley regime.

    Ashley out, SD out, Wonga out! Boycott Spurs game, boycott SD. Make a stand, make a difference! Together the fans have the power to completely ruin Ashley and the reputation of Sports Direct and that is the only hope to try and get him out and get NUFC back!

  • VanToonMan

    Apr 11, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #2

    I know it’s looking increasingly unlikely of relegation due to the abject performances we have seen – but I still think we have a chance of pulling off a great escape with the right team selection and a real boost of 110% commitment by the players.

    We have 4 out of 6 games at home – and if you look at the games Norwich and Sunderland have – putting form aside – they have harder games than us.

    1st step is – Norwich-Sunderland need to draw and we beat Swansea – that really will inspire some belief.

  • lochinvar

    Apr 11, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #3

    Away from the football how has the club ever allowed Wonga to be associated with NUFC.
    Is that down to Charnley taking the quick buck rather than having the nous to negotiate sponsorship with a reputable brand.
    Wonga have just borrowed £25million because of their own financial position.
    Wonder what APR % they are being charged – doubt its the same as the level they charge their customers.

  • VanToonMan

    Apr 11, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #4

    *likely is what i meant in the first sentence

    I know most people on here are going to say I’m deluded but I still maintain some hope after looking at all 3 teams fixtures.

    If we can get Colo/Dummett/Colback back – I would say play this team at home to swansea on sat:

    Anita – – – – Mbemba – – – Colo – – -Dummett/Colback

    ——Sissoko – – – Shelvey – – – De Jong – – -Townsend – –

    ———————Wijnaldum – – – – Mitro – – – – – – – – – –

    And if we really go for it – with Perez and Doumbia impact subs – I think we can push for these 4 home games and villa away.

  • jayphoto

    Apr 11, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #5

    @vantoon man – I agree. The Man City game will be vital! Hopefully they stuff PSG keeping their eyes on the ECL! Expect us to end on 35 points… whether that’s enough I suppose depends on norwich

  • hibbitt

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #6


    what are you going to do you seem very keen to tell everyone else what to do i for for one wont stop going but i will make my feelings very clear at the games how on earth can you ask fans to walk away at this point in the season another key board warrior who does sod all but moan on his keyboard

  • lesh

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #7


    Wonga came in on Llambias’s watch as MD. No doubt his master’s voice (Ashley) was involved above all.

  • Tsunki

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #8

    Ian – if you had a dog on a lead that was continually allowed to bit people, despite many complaints, how would you define “Shallow Thinking”? –

    A/ it’s the publics’ fault for being far to accessible for biting and for not being consistently nice to the dog
    B/. it’s the Dogs fault for being unruly.
    C/. it’s the leads’ fault for being too long
    D/ it’s the owners fault for not respecting the public, and continuing to walk an unruly mutt on an over-long lead.

    Quite rightly, another option is to consider who is actually the owner of said rogue hound –

    giimps // Apr 11, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    I would go for “E”
    It’s the owners fault for not training the dog properly and taking the dog out knowing this.

    I believe there are still even some who refer back to option F/ – the previous owner who failed to take care of the dog properly and sold it to someone entirely unsuitable for dog ownership. However the new owner did ‘rescue’ the dog… :)?

  • LGFUAD21

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #9

    Absolutely shameful display on Saturday.

    Never want to see him in a Toon shirt again. One mistake after the other. He cannot defend for toffee these days. Positionally all over the place and whats with his hands behind his back stick out a leg technique.

    Looks reckless as hell. I do think some of it is to do with him having to play LCB. He does not look comfortable at all.

    Is trying but he’s just not cut out to play FB. We’ve not got much choice though have we.

    I think he’s given up. He looks sick of the way the club is run and knows he can get a decent enough move.

    We aren’t dominating possession so we cant be playing Shelvey as our DM. He’ll battle (though he didnt at Southampton) but it distracts from his game. We need Colback in there to make a nuisance. Sideways passes or not. At least he cares and doesnt surrender.

    Get rid of him. Bargain buy for what we paid but he has ideas well above his station. He’s lazy, runs into dead ends and offers nothing to the team.

    Talented no doubt but goes missing. He’s not turned up for a while. Time to drop him I think.

    Anita/Janmaat – Lascelles – Colo – Dummet
    —————Shelvey ———— Colback
    Townsend ————– De Jong ——— Perez

    Yes thats a 4231 – The formation everybody blames for all of our issues on here but the formation isnt the problem.

    Our players lack discipline and work rate. They lose the ball and surrender. They expose our dodgy defenders rather than protecting the weak in the pack.

    The new guys for all of their flair can’t break oppositions down because they want the ball played into their feet rather than ahead of them. That’s why we lack momentum because we loose it all by passing directly into the feet of our attackers when we should be playing ahead of them to run onto and maintaining momentum.

    SDJ more often than not has come into games we’re loosing brought a cool head and looked after the ball but is never given a shout in favour of the disappearing man Gini.

    Lascelles was one of our better performers this second half of the season. He’s up for the fight yet we keep putting the comedian Taylor in.

    The injury to Dummet has cost us dearly but thats the boards fault. He’s not cut out to be a full back. He’s a centre back. He’s not suited to the amount of running required at FB but he does it for us which is why he keeps getting injured.

    Townsend is outclassing everyone at the minute. He works hard. Creates chances and does his defensive duties.


    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #10

    van toon man
    i believe the team dont have it in them to get out of it,that being said the opportunities there if they get the right result at the weekend and norwich and the mackems draw,coz after saturday we play three games before norwich play there next game, which may be a little advantage to apply pressure….but the players need to man up and put in a performance that might give themselves confidence….im not convinced they are good enough or men enough..unfortunately.

  • Munster Mag

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #11

    But part of the problem is that Rafa seems to have zero motivational ability. I appreciate he is kicking a dead dog, but he seems to be all about tactics and not enough about building up some passion in the dressing room. If he stays on, he needs to get some shouters in there. It may be a case of right man, wrong time. I hope he has the sense to play Lascelles after this.

  • Ashton

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #12

    Our best team for next week and the rest of the season:

    Townsend————–De Jong—————–Wijnaldum

    Sissoko is vital in terms of defending set pieces. Our team is full of midgets and he normally marks the tallest opposition player when defending set pieces.

    And he should never play on the left. He is a right sided player and should play there.

    He could be a masterstroke at RB.

    Tiote is also vital. He is brave and doesn’t shy away from the ball and never gives up.

    De Jong should start every game. He is our smartest player and also has the most experience attacking wise.

    Wijnaldum played his best for us at LW. Against Norwich home he played there and scored 4.

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #13


    sorry but that’s probably the daftest thig I’ve ever heard. this was the guy who was 3-0 down in a european cup final who motivated the greatest comeback of all time!! Give me strength.


    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #14

    aye rafa could get into them a bit,but like lascelles said at the weekend they are grown men,they should be motivating themselves,they are earning a fortune doing a job most lads growing up would love to do and if thats not motivation enough,maybe the idea that they will have a relegation on there record wont but as a professional it should….they need to step up,they’ve looked like rabbits in headlights all season and now times running out.

  • c-dog

    Apr 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #15

    Siem De Jong – What a player!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #16

    Munsters been banging the Carr drum for years now don’t you know?

  • Mag52

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #17

    Surely Rafa has had enough ambition less games from the likes of our “better” players to try something different in our next match.
    Wini and Sissoko should both start on the bench. For me, Janmaat would join them, except that we have so few fit defensive players that he has to start.
    Leicester are the perfect example of a team with no players costing much, who are successful through their energy and passion for the game allied to a great team ethos.
    Come on Rafa. Throw on some of the unfamiliar faces. There might be a match winner lurking in the shadows.

  • hibbitt

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #18


    which unfamiliar faces are they then ?…………janmaat has two broken fingers from punching the dressing room wall on saturday more defensive problems for rafa


    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #19

    wont happen but be nice to try.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #20

    It was like that last minute dash for a LB was to keep the fans happy rather than address the problem, well if they think we tried everything will be ok. Like the phantom hunt for Gomis and Maiga or the last minute bid for Nzogbia, they’ve treat us like idiots for years now except it’s them that will look stupid come May. Just a shame that it’s the fans that will suffer.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #21

    Ian Toon from earlier.
    Again with the talking in riddles. I hope you aren’t honestly suggesting that because ‘arry the bung Redknapp said Ashleys a’wite that we have to shrug our shoulders and say he must be then. There are a couple of pundits journos that have said the same about Mashers putting the money in. These people do not spend one tenth of the time we do reading or thinking about the club. I have actually been less vocal this season about our portly owner even breaking my boycott and attending games but I will not remain quiet when people try to heap the blame on Charnley and Carr when they are following a clear blueprint. People blamed overpaid mercenaries in 2009. Pardew in 2013 for not getting more out of his threadbare squad and again the year after for his headbut. Carver got it next for just being an imbecile and the happless Mclaren this time round for being a feeble minded yes man desperate for a job. Now Rafa’s motivational skills are being questioned. There is one constant dating back to 2007 despite the changes in management, board level and playing staff.
    Oh and btw I’ll be there on Saturday cheering these undeserving tw@ts on.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #22

    I’m not saying that Churners and Carr are blameless either mind.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #23

    Tsunki……. I have been attacked by this dog you speak of several times. On one occasion it jumped up and knocked my hat off my head and proceeded to chew it to pieces. I took this up in no uncertain terms with the owner who said it wasn’t his problem, that it was my hat not his and he didn’t care. I told him he ought to be ashamed and that I didn’t like his attitude. He replied that it was my attitude not his attitude.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #24

    At he chewed.

  • Ian Toon

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #25

    Jail- Thanks for your detailed response. Given that you’re planning on an appearance at SJP I won’t seek to criticise you. Though I wish I could be there. I was at Norwich in a great atmosphere and 2,600 Geordies in good voice. Fancy us to start the survival run on Saturday with a crowd backed fighting spirited performance.

    One question though! I noticed that we both forecast ( martoon thanks) a ninth place finish in the PL. Why if you thought Macca was hapless did you think we would finish so high. Or did you become disillusioned as the season progressed. I tended to see him as potentially a marked improvement on Carver.
    Why did you stop listening to BandB she always gave you good advice.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #26

    Tsunki…….. If you’re ever being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel ,over a little sea saw and through a hoop of fire. They’re trained for that.

  • Ian Toon

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #27

    Tsunki- What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

  • Obertans_on_roids

    Apr 11, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #28

    Janmatt should never play for this club again. Spineless little rat.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #29

    Positivity for the sake of it Ian.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #30

    I hate people who keep dogs. They’re cowards who haven’t got the guts to bite people themselves.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #31

    When did I stop listening to BandB???

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #32

    Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms,one is having a shit and the other one is carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge?

  • Tsunki

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #33

    They’re Dogfish, Ian, and evidently they can’t swim in the shallow waters of your thinking. 🙂

  • Tsunki

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #34

    Maybe if somebody would stop banging that Carr drum we could actually hear ourselves think properly.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #35

    Apparently when Ashley’s dog was told it looked like it’s owner, it killed itself.

  • MadisonToon

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #36

    Rafa: “At the moment it is just a single mistake, an individual mistake, that is killing the team mentally”

    The first goal was a number of people’s faults (although Taylor could be held responsible), but the second goal can be sat squarely on Janmaat’s shoulders. Do you think his turn-the-wrong-way-fall-over-capitulation is the “individual mistake” that Rafa is talking about? Is he talking about a different mistake? Or is it just a generalization?

  • Tsunki

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #37

    it’s a collection of single mistakes. An album of individual errors, if one will. A selection box of unique………

  • lesh

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #38


    I’ve come across that bloke with the dog too.

    Walked into the a bar in Sunderland and there he was, him and Bonzo, sitting in the corner. Unknown to me, his dog had done its business in front of the bar and stepping in it, pint in hand, whoosh, over I went, flat on my back.

    The dog-owner wasn’t interested in taking responsibility for his dog’s action, cleaning it up or even apologising for my fall. Needless to say, I was well pi$$ed off with him – and his dog!

    As I was sitting near the bar, a giant of a bloke walked in and before I had a chance to warn him about the dog-turd, whoosh, crash – he’d slipped in it too.

    Trying to help him, I said ‘I did that’ and before I could say anymore, whack, thump! A great fist landed on my nose, bloodying it….. ‘dirty sod’ says he.

    That’s mackems for you!!

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #39

    Ian…… Jail is not prejudiced in any way. He hates everybody equally.

  • bettyswallocks

    Apr 11, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #40

    Lesh….. Very good. Dogs are like pineses ( won’t allow correct spelling). I enjoy my own but I wouldn’t want anyone else’s touching me.


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