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Why This Man Isn’t Solely Responsible For Newcastle’s Demise

8:36 pm, Tuesday, April 12th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 48 Comments

Lee Charnley is the top executive at Newcastle United and he is the leader of the Newcastle Board which also includes Graham Carr and Bob Moncur and this season included Steve McClaren – who was the head coach.

The fact Stave  was on the Board was one reason the decision to sack him was delayed for so long, that it now looks like it was too late to bring Rafa Benitez in with just 10 games to play.

And when we are talking about accountability and who is responsible for what has been a really disastrous season even though Newcastle spent a staggering £82M in the transfer market – then Lee Charnley is responsible to Mike Ashley for how Newcastle performed this season.

Needless to say, given the targets were to finish in the top eight in the Premier League and to win a cup – or at least to go on a long cup  run – then it’s been a complete failure that we will in all likelihood be relegated.

lee charnley and mike ashley

Top executive Lee Charnley with owner Mike Ashley

And certainly Richard Keys, now with beIN Sports, on his web-site placed the blame (or responsibility) firmly on Lee Charnley for the relegation and seems to deflect any blame from the owner.

This is what Richard said talking about the two big clubs who will be relegated this season:

“I am sorry for Villa fans. It has been an awful season, but the re-building starts now. That’s the only consolation.”

“I’m convinced  the Toon are going.” “Geordie fans also have my sympathy.”

“I have been critical of Mike Ashley previously, but the current shambles has to fall on the toes of Lee Charnley. Time to go Lee.”

“It’s either Sunderland or Norwich now isn’t it? Palace will find another win somewhere and they’re all safe above them.”

One of the big mistakes Mike Ashley made was to ignore the definite signs last season that Charnley was in way over his head in the job – and he failed to take any action whatsoever  when John Carver almost got us relegated with eight successive defeats.

And hiring Steve McClaren after he had been fired by Derby County in the summer should have sent off alarm bells to the owner, but he did not interfere at all.

Not until we were beaten by Bournemouth 3-1 at home, when he came in and told Lee to sack McClaren and hire Rafa Benitez – and even then Lee made a right hash of the sacking and had to rightly apologize to McClaren the way he had hung him out to dry.

Negative headlines were all over the papers about how the club were messing McClaren around – what was Charnley thinking?

Some people will say it was Lee who took the initiative to fire McClaren and hire Benitez – don’t believe them – he didn’t.

The end of McClaren was nothing more than a complete lack of experience in management by Lee Charnley and the ethical and business-like way you fire somebody when it’s necessary.

If we were to start with the most responsible and go down the line of those responsible we would start with Ashley at the top followed by Lee  Charnley and then followed by Graham Carr.

Graham had a big part to play in wasting £82M in transfer funds and he’s made a mess of the transfers for far too long and not only brought in his favorite players, but didn’t seem to fix or maybe want to fix some of our glaring weaknesses.

Like the defense for example.

We put Bob Moncur bottom of the list because we don’t know exactly what his function is on the Board.

So they are all responsible for Newcastle’s demise and in any other business they would all be fired at the end of the season – at the latest.

Whether anything will not change with Mike Ashley we don’t know – but we have our doubts.

That’s just the first team and the U21 and U18 sides have also had a disastrous season too, as far as the results go.

Where Newcastle go from here we have no idea, but since we started the blog almost exactly nine years ago (Aril 23rd, 2007) this is the most negative we have ever felt about Newcastle United’s future.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Financial Fair Play · Financials · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours

48 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Apr 12, 2016 at 8:50 PM

    I would not get tired of clattering their heads together, especially if it made that Chinese gong sound.

  • 2 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    Anyone finding the man city’s game boring to watch.

  • 3 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:07 PM


    To answer your previous question, who cares, it’s a bit late to be saying that now nearly the end of the season.

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    When I want a thirty year olds wisdom delivered via a twelve year old brain I’ll ask you specifically!

  • 5 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:13 PM

    Thanks jail, you are so kind.

  • 6 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:16 PM


    What is the point of bringing up who’s responsible, it’s done lets move on and concentrate on what’s left of the season.

  • 7 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Besides that’s like me saying why get rid of Pardew when nothing’s changed since he’s left.

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    And you never see me writing those words.

  • 9 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:20 PM


    About bloody time, falling asleep here.

    Well done city.

  • 10 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:20 PM

    What a signing he’s been.

  • 11 Essex Geordie Bill // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    I’ll just repeat my comment from previous thread.

    Unless there’s a distinct improvement on our current performances I’m not sure whether Rafa should be begged to stay, he should have had some influence by now. Things are no better than they were under McClaren and some of his team selection has been bl**dy awful.

    It was obvious to anyone with half a footballing brain that Taylor just aint good enough for the EPL anymore, might just about to be good enough for the Conference league. What is he seeing that we ignorant fans don’t?

    As for the gormless comedy duo pictured above it’s all too depressing to even comment on them.

  • 12 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Well said mate, at last someone with sense.

  • 13 magicmac // Apr 12, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Good article and we all know that Ashely is the main problem, he might be a fairly good business man, but he knows totally nothing about football or how to run a football club, and the sad thing is he put those 2 clowns Charnley and old man Carr in charge of the club, it was always going to be a total failure, with those clowns running all football matters. Like the old saying goes only a fool keeps making the same mistakes, and expects a different outcome. The only people i feel sorry for at Newcastle is thier wonderful loyal fans, and Rafa, Ashely and his clowns totally deserve whats coming to them, they have distroyed a truely great club. Howay the lads.

  • 14 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 10:54 PM

    Where the hell is everyone tonight.

  • 15 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    I will have to takeover and carry the blog this evening, Ed you better pay me, I’m on overtime now.

    Ha ha ha

  • 16 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    Right what should i talk about.

  • 17 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 10:57 PM

    How about this weekend, I’m going for a 1-0 home win.

  • 18 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 10:59 PM

    Got a funny feeling shelvey will score and will be man of the match.

  • 19 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:00 PM

    His first one since the first game.

    Ha ha ha

  • 20 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:00 PM

    Then hope Norwich draw with Sunderland.

  • 21 welshgeordie9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:02 PM

    Still can’t see us staying up to be honest.

  • 22 stuart no9 // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:10 PM

    Richard Keys hasnt got a clue what hes talking about , idiot, ……..“I have been critical of Mike Ashley previously, but the current shambles has to fall on the toes of Lee Charnley. Time to go Lee.”

    what Keys cant understand and i find it hard to believe that someone in his position is , if Ashley had learnt just a little bit from last season, Charnley would be history now and no where near this club, the fact that he done zilch about it make , makes ashley TOTALLY responsible for this whole mess , regardless of how hopeless and incompetant his board are,
    No one is going to leave his job as CE and getting paid good money if he is allowed to carry on, Ashley should have got rid last season . ALL ASHLEYS FAULT,.

  • 23 Tsunki // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:28 PM

    Lee – “I say, Ashley – I can’t keep on smiling at these beastly fans forever! C-can I have some more money for players?”

    Mike – “he he he of course old chap, I’ll give it to you as soon as I get my postal order from Uncle Mostyn..”

    Lee – “Yarooooo!”

  • 24 Tsunki // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    Those two fat heeds just asking for a slap with a shovel.

  • 25 Graeme // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:38 PM

    The reality of our current situation!!

    Sums it up completely.

  • 26 jimmysmith // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:48 PM

    The problem for Newcastle is that the league is so competitive, particularly in the bottom third, which is a thankless and inglorious churn. These players aren’t used to it, nor did they sign up for it, nor did Charnley and Carr envisage it and so bring in the players to insure against it. 82 million seems a lot, but it isn’t when you factor in the improvement in other sides, and the inadequate squad we had last season as the base to build from. The idea was to build over 3 to 4 windows, in hindsight the rebuilding really needed to be done in 1, and not by Carr and Charnley.

  • 27 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    TBH quite enjoying the train crash that is NUFC. Lets be clear its FatAshes club and he runs it for profit/advertising. For far too long he has ridden rough shod over cups, fans, tradition etc wanting only EPL status!

    Now his gamble has failed and his club is relegated – after spending £82M (but still turned a profit (WTF)) and looks like he will loose on £100M+ next year – LUVIN IT

    This club has got no class and deserves everything! Only hope that we can become a better club once FatAsh goes.

    I cant understand why anyone would buy a club and then run it like this – single city, 50K+ fans every other week, high visibility – yet everything he has done has been to the detriment of this. We are now known for tapping up players and waiting for contracts to run out, offering a stepping stone to bigger clubs!

    The fact that FatAsh luvs money and he is loosing it in shedloads brings a smile to my face 🙂

  • 28 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 12, 2016 at 11:53 PM

    If true only NUFC could agree a release clause with Townsend that is less than paid 4 moths previous, or not putting a relagation clause in Shelveys pay LOLOLOLOLO

    Failed to do due diligence once is careless but three times ……. JOKE

  • 29 Graeme // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:00 AM

    BlacknWhite – cant argue with a word you say.

    But, I have supported this club since 1961 and it hurts to see it reduced to this level, for one man’s gratification. He should be tarred, feathered and put on the first train to Sunderland!!

  • 30 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:04 AM

    Graeme – Im about same age – the only way I get by is realising that the club is not ours!
    At least currently

  • 31 jimmysmith // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:10 AM

    There is a perverse sense that Ashley is only getting his comeuppance, and so it all seems like a sort of natural justice. It won’t feel that way when it happens of course. It will wash over us in one sickening dose of reality.

  • 32 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:13 AM

    Not all medicines are painless. Remember KK selling Andy Cole? Pain led to Sir Les and Al as a forward line

  • 33 jimmysmith // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:20 AM

    The game has changed dramatically since then. This is the worst possible time to fall out of the league. We can bounce back, but by then the other established clubs, not simply the senior sides, will have appreciably widened a gap that we couldn’t broach in the 5 seasons since we last went down. I doubt we’ll manage it in ten this time round.

  • 34 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:30 AM

    Jimmy – and who has let this happen? We had the opportunity to move on after teh 5th place finish – but………

    Now we pee £82M because FatAsh wants the advertising/cash that the EPL brings. If relegation brings us closer to getting rid of an owner that sees the club as and advertising banner, buy cheap sell high – regardless of detriment to the team on the pitch, cups as an inconvenience, SJP as a retail/commercial park etc . Then bring it on!

  • 35 jimmysmith // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:34 AM

    Perhaps, but it’s a brutal price to pay, and I doubt he’ll sell anyway. Surely it’s more likely he’ll dig in and try to bring us back to where the money and exposure is.

  • 36 lesh // Apr 13, 2016 at 1:38 AM

    Ah, but Ed, be fair to Ashley.

    He’s reportedly to conduct a review of the Club’s abysmal showing this year.

    Will the so-called Board take any casualties as a result? Maybe Moncur – as a cost-saving measure and that’ll be it.

    Rafa will go ‘of his own accord either way and the party line’ll be that ‘we’ve learned some [even more?] lessons’.

    Will we ever find out what those lessons will be? Have previously learned lessons ever been shared with the fans?

    Nah, it’ll be déjà vue, all over again.

  • 37 lesh // Apr 13, 2016 at 1:56 AM

    As an aside.

    Over the last forty years or so, has any Newcastle manager moved to another top-level club and become a long-term success?

  • 38 terencelim // Apr 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM

    Of course Ashley isn’t solely responsible for Newcastle’s demise. His ass licking pets like some we found in this blog should take part of the responsibilities too.

  • 39 NUFCPaul // Apr 13, 2016 at 4:09 AM

    Come on then terencelim, name some names. Who are Ashley’s ‘ass licking pets’ as you call them? You can’t spout off like that without backing it up.

  • 40 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:34 AM

    Now now, nufcpaul – why should he name names? They’ve done that themselves.

  • 41 Lindisfarne // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:49 AM

    Tsunki -good morning, things a little slow on here. If the regular number of articles comes in there will possibly be no comments. Thank goodness you are on hand to fulfill you usual ‘Ashley Out!’ duties.

  • 42 Ron Knee // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    Steve Claridge, a commentator with his finger on the pulse:

    “His recruitment (McClaren’s) obviously was wrong. The way he brought those players in and put them in to the side was wrong.”

    He’s obviously never heard of Carr!

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:10 AM

    You would be very surprised at the amount of posters that come iut of the woodwork when it looks like actually may be coming good. Some even tried to say that his seven years of relegation and flirting with relegation were all part of a bigger picture to enable us to take the league by storm. I was written off as a thing of the past after our greatest ever owner spent 50M pounds in the summer. The biggest ass licker of all, the cretinous bills son is always lurking in the shadows hoping that Mikey might do a good turn so he can appear to rub our noses in it.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:11 AM


  • 45 Jib // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    Coloccini and Taylor out
    Lascelles and Dummett in

  • 46 Jib // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:48 AM

    The return of Colback should free Shelvey to play a more advanced role.
    Mitro v Ashley Williams should be worth watching.

  • 47 lochinvar // Apr 13, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Why This Man Isn’t Solely Responsible For Newcastle’s Demise

    You’re right Ed – he’s only part of it.

    It’s called Corporate Negligence

  • 48 widowmagandapoke // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    I thought it was AlanCarr who was the comedian

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