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Can Newcastle Start Revival By Beating Swansea On Saturday?

9:43 am, Wednesday, April 13th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 46 Comments

We need a win very soon, so the confidence of our players can pick up and hopefully in front of a sold-out crowd on Saturday we can get all 3 points against Swansea.

The Swans beat a disappointing Chelsea side 1-0 at home last week for arguably their best ever result in the Premier League so they will be full of confidence.

We reported earlier how Kevin Keegan struggled when he first came back eight years ago and in his first four games in charge he had only one point too – and then only three points after eight games in charge before he got the first win 2-0 against Fulham.

Then in the next five games we had another three wins and two draws.

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We need a win on Saturday.

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46 responses so far ↓

  • 1 msk21dec // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    When keegan came we had a rubbish team being played in crap formations. when keegan played 4312 with owen behind martins and viduka we started winning and owen scoring.
    Now pards, mclaren and benitez keep playing 4231 and we struggle. we dont have players suited to 4231 our players will play well if we play 442 with a withdrawn striker to help midfield or a proper 433. I said for few years now if we play 4231 we always struggle. No manager has worked this out and that makes me wonder how are they professional managers.
    As far as im concerned if benitez plays 4231 against swansea and man city we will pretty much lose and be relegated. Benitez has to play 442 or 433 if we are to survive. Also sissoko and other players arent playing so well because they are played out of position and in formations that dont suit them any players will struggle and be deflated by this. Also to get best out of shelvey he needs to play with a midfielder either side in a 3 man midfield not with 1 midfielder. Rafa now that ive given you some FACTS… over to you. Id try 442 Darlow, Anita, mbemba, lascelles, dummet, obertan, tiote, colback, aarons, perez, mitrovic or 4312 Darlow, anita, mbemba, lascelles, dumett, tiote, shelvey, colback, de jong, perez, mitro. Id honestly drop sisso because hes underperformed too long. Benitez needs to make changes not train and hope.

  • 2 stuart no9 // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    stuart no9 // Apr 11, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    we are not down yet ,
    3 poinrts v swansea
    1 point v city
    1 point v liverpool
    3 points v palace
    3 v villa
    3 v spurs coz leicester have won the title,
    another 14 points will be enough to keep us up
    AND raffa stays

    Of course we can still do it.

  • 3 rush_nufc // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    4 -3-3
    Darlow
    Anita collo mbemba lasc
    Shelvey Coback
    De jong
    Townsend Mito Wijnaldum

  • 4 hibbitt // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    stuart no9

    sorry mate but we are

    same old story with this lot
    too little too late

  • 5 Jib // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    msk21dec
    It’s a blog and of course you are entitled to your opinion , however I strayed from your path when you proposed dropping Townsend for Obertan!

  • 6 croftus5678 // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    as much as i really dont want to get relegated i really think we have had far far too many last chances at survival and none of them have been taken or even tried to be taken !

    on the upside we will all be hopefully smiling again in the chamionships as we should surely win big with what players we have that will be staying and maybe we can learn to win again and play as a team.

  • 7 Hirdy // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    My team v Swansea 4-4-2
    GK Darlow
    RB Mbabu
    RCB Mbemba
    LCB Lascelles
    LB Dummett
    CDM Saivet
    RW Obertan
    LW Townsend
    CAM Shelvey
    De Jong just behind Mitrovic
    Bench: Colo, Janmaat, Wijnaldum, Perez, Woodman

  • 8 Blofal // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    ——————-Darlow
    —–Mbemba – Lascelles – Dummett
    Sissoko———Colback———-Townsend
    ———-Dejong———Shelvey
    —————Perez—Mitrovic

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    I really don’t get the idea that it is a good thing to drop in to the Championship to rebuild, surely it’s better to rebuild with an extra 100M TV money in the coffers.

  • 10 lesh // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Given the nature of Rafa’s deal, I suspect that if we drop, then Ashley’ll trigger his contract end after 3 months, in effect sacking him whether he wants to stay or not!

    That being so, he’d be better off resigning, taking his side of the three month walk-away option. That’ll be the way it pans out, I think

  • 11 jayphoto // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    @jail – its not! The championship is a clear backwards step

  • 12 Yo-yo // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    msk

    I’m not a fan of strict 4231 either but it’s what most managers use and Benitez and Mourinho have hardly failed in their use of it.

    It isn’t the formation that is causing the problem though.
    It is the issues with sports psychology – lack of commitment, no resilience, heads dropping, the fear factor, an eye to a transfer out of a failed side, lack of concentration.
    Somebody suggested team hypnosis to solve this, and that might be better than tactics and training as they’re not even doing the basics right, however many training sessions they do.

    As far as responsibility goes – expectations are set by the club, and the writing was on the wall when 5th place was seen as over-achievement. It’s pretty much been downhill ever since.

  • 13 The overrated Frenchman // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    For people to even be proposing that Obertan should play says something, although I’m not sure exactly what. Desperation? Resignation? Blind faith? The fact that he is even still in our squad is a damning indictment of the management.

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    I’ve come round to the way of thinking that if relegation means a mass exodus and we are left with a potentially very exciting young team with Cathro in charge and not some anti – football dinosaur like Pulis, then it may not be so bad.

    Hangers on and inadequates like carr, charnley and beardo will hopefully be shown the door and Wonga’s deal with us hopefully runs out soon too.

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    yo yo

    thought that was what Black was meant to give us

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    jail at 9

    In an ideal world of course, but worse case scenario and clutching at straws and all that!

  • 17 Ron Knee // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    RH

    If Cathro was in charge, wouldn’t the Board revert to the Head Coach model?

  • 18 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    it’s funny the only striker with some pace Doumbia is this season’s Ferryra, persona non grata. Another stunning bit of incompetence from charnley and carr.

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Cathro????

  • 20 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Based on what?

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    Ron Knee

    don’t think cathro would touch it without some gound rules. Even Ash must realise that carr and charnley couldn’t negotiate buying a newspaper, let alone players who would be appropriate for our needs.

    But if, as I say there is a mass clear-out and basically not many incomings and a young team comprised from the likes of armstrong, m’babu, roberts, aarons, Lascelles etc, then cathro could just work.

  • 22 Rotonda heights // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    B&B

    Like Howe, potential. If you don’t give someone a chance how will they ever get experience.

    If rafa goes, i’d much rather go for an up and coming highly rated young coach like Cathro who allegedly wants to play the brand of football we want to see, than the groundhog day of a negative, long ball merchant like Pulis / bruce etc.

  • 23 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Jail@9………. Completely agree . Those that are saying relegation is what Ashley deserves and will be his comeuppance after years of messing things up, what about us and our club? How can relegation be anything other than a backward step . Even if we do come straight back up which will be very difficult, we will have lost valuable ground on all other PL clubs. Talking about cutting noses off to spite faces. Unbelievable.

  • 24 toon kk // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    We’ve got to start playing 4 4 2 one lone striker who isn’t the finished article (Mitrovic) isn’t working. We got to step back to basics to move forward.

  • 25 Moonraker15 // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Whatever is said about the pros and cons of relegation, there is really no argument for it and this rebuild theory. If we stay up, Rafa rebuilds and we have a new philosophy. If we go down, who knows; division 1 or a long spell in the Championship but I just don’t see us bouncing back! Time to pray folks 🙁

  • 26 Sir Braveheart // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    @bettyswallocks

    Relegation isn’t what Ashley deserves (I’ll let others decide what he deserves) but it is what this team deserves. If you’re in the bottom three at the end you only have yourselves to blame.

    Is it good for the fans? No, it’s embarrassing, humiliating and upsetting. However relegation is the only way of clearing the decks. It’s the only way players like Sissoko or Coloccini are going to be removed from this club before their contracts expire. New players can’t come in while we still have the old taking up wages. In that sense relegation might be just what we need. Think of the good it did us last time, cleared out the players who weren’t committed and left those like Barton and Nolan who were, and allowed the development of players like Carroll.

    It’s not my first choice solution but right now the prospect of survival and just carrying on as we have been for the last three years is more depressing that relegation.

  • 27 Ron Knee // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    If Benitez leaves at the end of the season one of the biggest questions is who will be in charge of buying and selling players. Will Ashley stick with the dream team of Charmless and Carr?

  • 28 Mag52 // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Jib,

    Shelvey could feel he has something to prove against his old club, and will put in an inspired captain’s performance.( Well, it’s got to be a possibility anyway).

  • 29 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    Sir Braveheart……… Sorry but I totally disagree. Ashley has allowed the club to start spending the clubs proceeds . Whilst he is still the owner that is the best we can expect in terms of funding. Still , with the right management and recruitment team we should be able to put a decent team together with the TV money but only in the PL .

    The shortfall in income from TV will not only mean we fall behind other PL clubs in terms of squad quality, but if we do ever come back up then there will be fewer decent players available and less money in the kitty to try and buy them. Don’t assume that we have the people in place to assure promotion, so a slide into oblivion is a definite possibility. If you’re happy to be a big fish in a small pool then that’s your right but believe me the PL is where it’s at.

  • 30 EllaGuru // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    It does not matter any more. All too little too late. We are going down without a doubt. We may as well start blooding those who will form the core of the team next year.
    Get shot of Sissoko, Janmaat, Wijnaldum and co

  • 31 barkel // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    We need to finish on 34pts or more to stay up. I’m hopeful of wins but it’s difficult to stay positive. I think Norwich will finish on 33 and the mackems on 32 (assuming they draw on Saturday)

  • 32 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    agree with EllaGuru, it’s now time to transfer our current players and have the deals done soon.

    No point in hoping we will stay up because it would be the worse thing to happen because

    1 – Dire football again (and yes even under Rafa)

    2 – Ashley will get the TV money and again not improve our squad.

    3 – Lee and Carr will still be here and again only looking for on sale value players instead of grafting players.

  • 33 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Championship will be better for us more than you’s would think!

  • 34 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    I say this again as I said the same against Sunderland, Norwich and Southampton, if we play a 4231 formation it’s an automatic no win for us.

    Time to change Rafa since your suppose to be a tactical genius! If us fans can see the 4231 doesn’t work surely you can!

  • 35 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Nezza………. We are not likely to sign any better players than we have now if we go down. Some of the mercenaries will leave and the squad will be trimmed. There is no evidence to suggest Ashley will sack Charnley and Carr, Rafa may or may not stay, If he goes we will more than likely sign an uninspiring manager. We will have less money, a worse team and maybe a worse manager. How does that make us better off?

  • 36 one fine day // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    I voted win
    More in blind hope than logic.

    Please can we all stop this shite about we are better off in the champs.
    We are far better off staying up
    1. Like it or not cash is important
    2. We get to keep rafa
    3. A chance to start again
    4 Some of the good people who work at the club do not get binned
    5.If mash is going to sell he will find us easier to market as epl than championship
    6.We can attract a decent sponsor and not end up with our kit being made by macron or sondico.
    7. even if we come back up even clubs like west brom will have had 100 mil in revenue and will all have strengthened we will be serious whipping boys of the league, something a club like ours never deserves ,well at least the fans don’t
    if we go down we go down and we deal with it but until its confirmed lets stop kidding ourselves that its better for the club and us etc .
    who is to say ash wont simply hang on with us in the champs and take the parachute , asset strip to claw back what he can from the disaster of his tenure and leave us even more in the clarts?
    think he wouldn’t?
    The man has no shame and feels he owes us nothing.

  • 37 toon kk // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    So many keep blaming our manager/ managers but it’s our players who are responsible for the situation we’re in. Rafa is starting to get ripped into. He’ll have forgotten more than most people will ever know, but what do people think our current players are capable of? Let’s be honest our current players will struggle in the championship, the championship may not have the quality players of the premier league but they’re usually very hard working, because they have to be.

  • 38 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    bettyswallocks

    You seem to forget that there’s plenty of hungry championship players now who can take on the PL, just because you assume the worse it will go against your better judgment.

    Think about the pros and cons and the business side of things relating to Newcastle do you honestly think Ashley will hire another inept head coach/manager to take over Newcastle in the Championship?

    Of cause he won’t, he’s been longing for stability at Newcastle so why even try to get a poor head coach/manager?

  • 39 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    With the profits made already 30+million and sale of players Newcastle could rebuild a broken team so bettyswallocks we will have the finance to purchase new players and you seem to forget that Newcastle are the giant club when it comes to players from the championship!

    As I said before many players would love the chance to play for Newcastle in the championship.

  • 40 one fine day // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    All the things we want to happen if we go down eg
    ash selling us
    the “board told to do one’
    All deadwood,mercenaries and champs league wannabees cough can all be sent packing .
    There is no reason why these cannot happen even if we remain in prem
    Could be the signal for fans to say enough is enough and get stuck into ash from the first game (not waiting until another season has passed us by before the protests start that way ,we are not given the guilt trips into the support the team to stay up rubbish.
    every season in the last 4 the only time fans started to really kick off was post christmas when we were out of both cups

  • 41 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Nezza…… Other than appointing Rafa the board at NUFC have made bad decision after bad decision. I wish I could share your confidence that relegation will miraculously turn this trend around.

  • 42 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Also every manager knows about Newcastle and it’s potential whether it’s in the PL,Championship or abroad.

    Rafa is here because he sees Newcastle stable potential club and recognized us as the sleeping giants, at the time when Lee came out and said Newcastle had over 80 applicants for the manager job I wouldn’t be surprise if this was indeed the truth.

    The real question though is who would be stupid enough to turn down a chance like this?

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    one fine day.
    Precisely.
    Sir Braveheart,
    You don’t have to go down to clear the decks at all, you get a quality manager who won’t listen to the clap trap our joke of a board comes up with to root out the bad apples and get those that are staying committed to the cause. You scrap the bonus system and get players back to winning for pride rather than a few extra quid on their grossly inflated wages

  • 44 NezzaNUFC // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    bettyswallocks

    We’ve had 9 years of Newcastle trying to build a squad in the PL and only once it got improved and it was when we got relegated.

    I just believe we need to rebuild in the Championship for a couple of years before heading into the PL or else we will be back to square one again and let history repeat itself.

  • 45 Wayayman // Apr 13, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    For anyone thinking or worried about formations, I urge you to watch this utterly brilliant video from the master and the man who really invented modern football. I’m a keen student of coaching and have to say that this opened my eyes. Bear with it to the end, it’s worth it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ0byEyeOA

    I met the great man last September when I was photographing a two day event that he attended. I was introduced to hm on the 1st day by a mutual friend and we chatted briefly about football and Newcastle (obviously) On the second day he made this six foot four, 45 year old lad from Byker feel like a child again when he came over and greeted me with a hug and a smile as wide as the Swing Bridge. I’ll never forget it.

  • 46 EllaGuru // Apr 13, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Ideal situation would have been to clear out the deadwood and replace it with reasonable quality players who have some desire a couple of seasons ago. This did not happen however. Seems we are going to have to clear out the deadwood whilst playing Championship football.




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