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If This Player Misses Swansea Game Because Of This – Fine Him

5:31 pm, Wednesday, April 13th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 80 Comments

Daryl Janmaat is said to be out of Saturday’s game against Swansea City, and we thought that would happen, we just had a feeling about it after the way he left the field at half time – to us he looked like he had had enough.

We assume he will miss the game because of the groin injury he picked up in the first half on Saturday, and that it has not healed sufficiently for him to play.

That will mean we will again have three non regulars playing in the back four and coupled with Karl Darlow in goal, who doesn’t have a lot of Premier League experience, we have another patched up defense for this vital game.

And that’s one reason we have little chance of beating Swansea on Saturday.

daryl janmaat crystal palace 5-1

Daryl Janmaat – after 5-1 mauling at Crystal Palace

If it turns out that Daryl cannot play because of the two broken fingers he injured when he punched the dressing room wall at half time – he should be fined and the fine should be a heavy one – for incompetence and indiscipline.

The news out of Holland is that he has had surgery this week on the hand, but surely that will not stop him from playing in such an important game?

It’s critical that our experienced players are available to play in the final six games of the season, but with their attitude it seems there are too many of them who simply don’t seem to care at all.

As well as destroying the club, those in charge of supposedly managing the club, including the business we do in the transfer market have brought in far too many mediocre mercenaries over the last couple of years.

The Newcastle Board should all be fired in the summer and it would also be (very) good if Mike Ashley sells up quickly and is willing to lose big money on the sale of Newcastle – presumably he can take a tax write-off on the loss.

He will leave behind a shell of a club after his nine years demolition job, and Newcastle is not worth much these days.

Not in terms of money anyway.

But there again that’s all Mike thinks of.

I’ll leave it at that for now.



Tags: Coaching · Injuries · Management · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours




80 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Seems to me our experienced players are the problem, not the solution. If Mbabu is fit I’d sooner see him play than Janmaat. I know Rafa wants to rely on old heads, but those heads are elsewhere now and not on the job in hand. Give the kids a chance because this isn’t working. We’re carrying three players right now, if you exclude Taylor and it’s too much. This is a case of won’t play, not can’t play and it’s shameful.

  • 2 Graeme // Apr 13, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    If he had attacked the wall with his head, he would likely be fit to play tomorrow – although the wall would probably be in a worse condition!!!

  • 3 mindshaft // Apr 13, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    Mbabu is out injured again , not sure how LBs get injured so often, Haidara, Mbabu and Dummett are forever on the treatment table

  • 4 mactoon // Apr 13, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    We will never know. If he has had surgery on his hand he will not play regardless of whether he has an injured groin or not. The player will not want to play and the club will wheel out the story that he has a groin injury and as he was not playing, took the opportunity to have surgery on his hand.

    Farcical

  • 5 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    Let’s be brutally honest, he has previous for this. Wasn’t it him, not Willo, who got themselves sent off last season v Liecester? A pointless and deliberate foul in the last minute, despite already carrying a yellow card. He doesn’t want to be here and he’s helping drag us down. Same with Sissoko and Wijnaldum. Drop the lot.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    Bobbybee,
    Yup, it was him alright and our cowardly captain blatantly got himself sent off against Everton yet Carver called out most honest pro at the club. It will be very interesting to see what clauses these con men have in their contracts if we do go down, if they have very low release clauses it would go a long way to explain the complete lack of effort and pride.

  • 7 Bambams // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:27 PM

    As soon as he went down, saw the goal….That was it. You could see he wanted off the pitch never to return.
    Well that was my opinion of his actions.
    John Anderson he is not

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    They came here to get a move elsewhere realised how shite we were and that a move was less likely to happen because of it now just want out. I’ve got an ‘orrible feeling they’ve negotiated very low release clauses and see relegation as giving a bigger club a bargain and therefore higher wages for themselves.

  • 9 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    Jail, aye, I was furious when Willo got that thrown at him. One player who always gave 100%, but an easy target for Carver. We’re better off fielding a team of kids than to keep trying with players who want out. You never know, they might surprise a few people. What a chance to learn from a master, yet some just want away. Lascelles was right and I think most of the younger players feel the same. I do see why Rafa believes in experience, but our experienced players are just wanting out. They know they’ll get another club, whereas the kids want to be at THIS club. I know who I’d trust.

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Touble is though Bobby the young are just as bad. Have you looked at that U21 table, it’s horrific.

  • 11 Essex Geordie Bill // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:38 PM

    If Mbabu isn’t fit then play Sterry. I’m all for giving the younger players a chance.

    Whats to lose now. Especially as experience doesn’t seem to work, in all senses of the word.

    As for Janmaats assault on a wall at least it shows some passion, he’s probably been one of our best attackers this season. His defending is another matter.

  • 12 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:39 PM

    Trouble young uns?

  • 13 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    Bobbybee from previous thread…………. All of what you say about Charnley and Carr having failed and deserving the push would be applicable in most other industries and with most other owners.

    They will no doubt have a list of excuses at the post mortem about key players being injured and not having had enough defenders as they didn’t get them over the line in Jan.etc.etc. Ashley might just swallow all that, as he seems comfortable with those two. However he did insist on the best pound for pound value for all money spent and I assume he’ll be feeling short changed.

  • 14 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    The way I see it is that the kids are probably over the moon with learning from Rafa. They would be more likely to trust in his experience and carry out his instructions to the letter. That would give us half a chance. At least we’d go down fighting on the pitch and not in the dressing room. Rafa knows what he’s doing, but unless all eleven pull together and follow those instructions, it won’t work.

  • 15 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    Essex,
    I think your mistaking passion with stupidity, I don’t think he cares about the team at all. Him, Sissoko and Wijnaldum all think they’re too good for us.

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:42 PM

    Hope they end up at Watford, Palace and WBA next year.

  • 17 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Betty, they have no excuses. The reason we didn’t have defenders is simply because they chose to buy midfielders – £30m worth now on loan! They have to go mate, their position is untenable.
    Jail, I know the U21’s are poor, but the players I’d pick are already in the first team squad.

  • 18 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Hang on – what’s the difficulty in finding one thing and one thing alone to blame for the clubs sporting predicament? it’s the same thing that’s to blame for the clubs financial ‘success’. it’s the guy who owns the club lock stock and barrel and who did so for the sole self-confessed purpose of making money for Sports Direct. Of course it’s financially sound, because that is the important part for Mike. The football part has never been his concern. He gave it to his trusted lackeys to administer – how hard can it be? – and now it’s the football part that is going to cost him money. Poor oversight from the top floor. His employees,are the symptoms of his misguided business model, he’s the root cause.

    But what can we do? He’s been here a decade and learned nothing. We’re only the paying customers for his billboard business. I mean, it’s not like we have any say in the matter 😉

  • 19 banjax // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    For a man who allegedly pays his Sports Direct staff below minimum wage and docks their time for toilet breaks, I doubt greatly he will take a tax break (even if one were available) because he stands to lose even more money. We are talking many £Millions of loses here either way, relegation or survival in the premiership. If we are relegated the club would be worth circa £50m to a purchaser who would have to put in much more to fund the club. No, my guess is the M A will gamble on survival or a one year return to the premiership and only then can he expect a decent return on his investment. The only thing that could change all that would be the miracle of a Oligark or Moneybags Sheik who wants to buy his own subutteo live action game. So dream on boys and girls and Ed for there will be no fairy tale ending for us Toons.

  • 20 Essex Geordie Bill // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    If my memory serves me right didn’t we have someone out for a long time with a broken hand last season. I seem to recall a few of us asking why he couldn’t play.
    It wasn’t a GK by the way. 🙂

  • 21 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    You’d think any Manager of any decent team would have the sense to steer clear of “top” players who sold their club out.

  • 22 Essex Geordie Bill // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    Jail are they your tips to go down next year?

    I think CP could still be in the mix come the last couple of games this season.

  • 23 toon kk // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    There seems to be a massive attitude problem which is popping up on a match day. Seems strange how we’re having a good weeks training Macca used to say the same as Rafa but as soon as we start a game all our training goes out the window and our usual lethargic headless chicken formation takes over.
    Going off the last three seasons it starts half way through the season except this one it probably started on our second game and carried on.
    The annoying thing is we all know our players are capable of so much more.
    What’s going on??

  • 24 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    There’s a bit of belt-tightening going on with the oil barons lately I hear some are having to cut down yacht crews and personal chefs and everything. Really, it’s true. We might have to look elsewhere for benefactors.

  • 25 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Toon kk – a flawed bonus system is probably coming back to bite Lee on the backside

  • 26 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Bill, agree about Palace. I think they’re relying on other results because if they lose tonight, I can’t see where they’ll pick up points from. Their run in is a nightmare scenario and we’d all LOVE IT if they got dragged down – especially if it saved us! 🙂

  • 27 Bobbybee // Apr 13, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Right, time to turn my tablet to sky+ and watch the cup tie. Another hattrick for Big Andy? Catcha later.

  • 28 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    at least janmaat has played well sometimes. hes by no means the worst player. I’ve just read that 244 players have scored in the premier league. that’s 244 players have scored more than sissoko. to put that in context there are 200 outfield players start the match each weekend. sissoko has amassed more minutes than most having played a staggering 31 games, getting 90 minutes in 27 of them in one of the prime goalscoring positions. yet virtually every player in the league has outscored him. If u take away his three assists against Norwich he’s only set up two other goals. contributed f*** all to defensive work or team passing moves. All he’s done is a few headless charges against spurs and a few against Norwich. I’d rather play riviere cisse aarons obertan perez wini armstrong or even janmaat as an attacking winger. anyone but gouffran.

  • 29 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Ashley has been on a belt tightening mission. He’s really trying to lose weight but it keeps finding him again. He’ s absolutely determined to slim down this time and has tried literally everything except dieting and exercise.

  • 30 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Essex @20 I don’t think it was anyone in the boardroom. Lee lost a cufflink but sneezed it out a few weeks later. Graeme got stuck in a cat flap for a few hours one night, and Bobby escaped concussion due to the timely fitting of that rubber hat. Apart from that fairly incident free.

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Essex,
    Not really just wouldvserve them right to end up three very poor to middling teams playing in antiquated stadiums in front of half the fans we get here.

  • 32 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Betty doesn’t Ashley have a designer one? I think it’s called a Kuiper Belt.

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    TnMW,
    Damning statistics. Can’t stand the bloke.

  • 34 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Strange to see in the match report on the man city v PSG game that the crowd was a capacity 53k. For a cl match. Ashley will probably get not far short of that for us playing Doncaster at home.

  • 35 Yo-yo // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Just a thought.
    We are relegated.
    The book value of the club drops by say £100m.
    In the hands of an accountant this may become a tax deductible loss.
    Soften the blow for Ashley’s bottom line.

    Any accountants out there who can confirm ?

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Us to win five out of six and Palace and the mackems to go down. If Carlsberg done finishes….

  • 37 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Yo-yo I don’t think the fall will be quite that quick. Parachute payments, the already contracted sponsorship and corporate incomes, little change at least for next season in ticket revenue, merchandise and catering etc will provide you lead a year cushion. That’s why I think any idea of baling out will be a year down the line.

    Having said that, I’m sure Mike has a contingency for accelerating repayment on his personal input which would no doubt impact player purchases and bouncing – back ambitions in the short term. Longer term I see us not getting out of the championship, nufc losing even it’s free advertising lustre for SD and consequently Mike cutting his losses on what’s left of the club, as the best of a bad job. I can’t see him following us down the plughole for prides sake as some think he will.

  • 38 beermonkey // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:35 PM

    jail

    ha ha very good

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    Tsunki,
    We were better in the PL for him obviously but the scenario one fine day predicted is a scary reality. I predict a firesale of the few players wamted by other clubs.He doesn’t put anymore money in this time round. He gives Cathro the job and if he gets us promoted happy days. He takes the parachute payments and runs us on a shoestring, bankrupts us and sells every available asset and builds houses on the training ground. When he factors in what he’s had in free advertising, all the money vlever accounting has syphoned from merchandise etc his losses aren’t that bad and we’re left rotting in league two with Beardo as manager saying what a great owner Mike was.

  • 40 welshgeordie9 // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:42 PM

    So then guys, what’s the score going to be this weekend.

  • 41 lochinvar // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    So Janmatt has run home for surgery in Holland after running away from NUFC and his teammates and fans.
    There’s a big shiny building next to SJP called the RVI so why didn’t he go there.
    Or over to the Freeman or round the corner to The Nuffield in Jesmond.

    It’s almost as if he’s sticking two fingers up at us – but wait, he can’t even do that properly now can he !

  • 42 bladeuser // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    wise up it doesn’t matter what 11 plays haven’t you cottoned on yet we are shit relegated kaput Swansea are safe and will still P@@@ all over nufc we have stunk out the epl for to long but the end is close
    By the way it will cost you more for away games in the championship next season than the epl BURTON has some nice pubs though
    ASH OUT COLO OUT CARR OUT PENFOLD OUT SHEEP ? OUT RAFA BYE BYE

  • 43 bettyswallocks // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Welshie…… Sheep 0 Welsh 11

  • 44 Thump // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    I agree with bladeuser. The Riddler is a serious issue plaguing Newcastle United, and should absolutely be thrown out.

    ? out.

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 7:59 PM

    bladeuser,
    Are you going on Saturday

  • 46 Yo-yo // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    Depressing thoughts Jail@39

  • 47 Back Door Man // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    Posted again …

    I’ve never subscribed to this daft cult that’s swept the game for the last dozen years, namely, manager worship. Everywhere you look their ugly mugs assail us, their disjointed bleatings scour our lugholes, newspaper sports editors genuflect before them and allow their nonsense to flood the back pages, tv producers wheel them in and encourage them to garble inarticulately about their tactics. Then we learn that these faux thinkers retire to their offices and slurp expensive wine with their opposite numbers … they somehow believe it makes them worthy. It’s all bollocks. These nobs, in reality, DO NOT win games. They might take training and pick the team, and some might knowingly (for the cameras … vain bastards!) wave their arms about whilst in the ‘technical area’ (technical area, my arse!) but it’s the players who win/lose games.

    As we know we’ve a bunch of useless sods who seem not to care; what sums it up for me is – do you throw your body (including your knackers/mush/or expensive nounce haircut) into the line of fire to block a shot. Most of ours turn their backs … it shows they don’t really care. Bastards!!!!

  • 48 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    Riddle me this, Riddle me that

    Mikey Ashley is a big Fat….Cat… 🙂

  • 49 Tsunki // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:16 PM

    Bdm.yeah. That SAF. What What fraud.

  • 50 Fuel Rox // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    If Janmett has had surgery on his broken fingers he’s oot for minimum next couple of weeks…

  • 51 Thump // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:31 PM

    @Yo-yo: Not an accountant, but work in financial support for accountants (as in: when they need advice, they talk to me).

    I’m not sure about writing it off as a tax deductible loss, because it’s more a practice in the US than over here, but it’s definitely a possibility. When you’re talking numbers of that magnitude it would take a very creative accountant indeed to pull off something substantial – your asset has massively decreased in value, after all.

    Ironically, if he decides to sell up, the loan repayment to him would offset any positive spin you could put on the loss of earnings, and that positive spin would basically be “so long as you’re happy to sit in the second tier for your ownership”. Basically, a pitch so weak that only Lee Charnley could possibly fall for it.

  • 52 Jib // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    Tsunki
    You and I (me?) have had our moments but I do stand in awe of your command of the succinct put down as demonstrated @49

    Back Door Man’s huge balloon of vain ill-informed pomposity popped in a trice.

  • 53 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    Heard rumour last night in the local that Janmaat didn’t break his fingers punching the wall but thumping one of his own players in the changing room

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    Jibberish,
    It makes a change from him succinctly putting down your vain pompous and ill informed outbursts.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:50 PM

    Fuel Rox,
    When did you say that?

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    If you’re being moderated your posts should at least go in at the bottom when they’ve been passed.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Can you omagine our sorry lot showing the same fight as W Ham?

  • 58 WWSBRD // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    So this relegation thing is looking quite likely isn’t it, nearly nailed on but stuff it am still going to think we will stay up no more losses this season 4 wins and 2 draws

    Colback returns to the centre with Shelvey, big lad Lascelles beside Mbemba, Dummett with Mbabu Return to fitness and Gini gets a flight to Holland

    Oh and someone reminding Rafa de Jong is fully fit to start games now

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    WW…,
    Yes, despite the research the club done on avoiding cup runs to save you from being relegated, they’ve managed to make all that clever work obsolete.

  • 60 WWSBRD // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    JfA
    We aren’t relegated yet mate 4 wins 2 draws coming up

  • 61 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    We can win Swansea. A back four of Mbemba Colo Lascelles Dummett protected by Colback is a lot more solid than usual. that’s 5 with defensive duties opposed to our normal 2. The other 5 can attack.

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    WW…,
    No we’re not and we have to keep the faith. I’ve got tickets for the Sports Bar again, hope it’s better than the Bournemouth game.

  • 63 WWSBRD // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    JfA
    Sports bar? Swansea won’t know what hit them…I hope

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    WW…,
    I thought it was the new name for platinum club, it’s not, my mate said they were for the sports bar,
    they’re not we were and will be again in the platinum club.

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    £15 for seats in the Platinum club where peolle have paid £40 odd on their ST’s.

  • 66 WWSBRD // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    JfA
    Ahh I’ve not heard it referred to as that mate sorry, good on ya though loud and proud…even in ur cushy padded seats haha I’d take a horrible plastic uncomfortable slab in the gallowgate any day like

  • 67 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    Cant use the youngsters as Beardo says they cant play at home – even told the Brighton coach before the recent 4-1 home reverse!!! Must be a new type of psychology ploy – playing dead. Shame it didn’t work. Perhaps Beardo should just admit he cant motivate and has less of a clue than Pardum

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    WW…,
    I looked at the seating plan, the sports bar is in the Leazes, don’t know why my mate thought they were for there, I just thought that a section of the Platinmm club had been rebranded/cheapened. I’d rather be in the Gallowgate all day long. Only good thing about the Platinum club is the view and we’re not much to look at these days.

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    Blacknwhite barmy,
    Didn’t he just say that they couldn’t play in stadiums full stop. The six nil mauling off the mackems was in an empty one.

  • 70 WWSBRD // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM

    JfA
    Haha leazers is alright aswell. I’ve been in the posh seats before and I didn’t exactly fit in apparently is a viewing area rather than a involved area

    Hopefully against Swansea we will put on a good show mate

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Apr 13, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Oh and glass pint glasses.

  • 72 Toon Tang // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    That point sees awld pards safe eh. 10 points with gd. Would love to have seen them sweat it out but it may have been at the expense of mackems which I weren’t willing to trade. Would rather see them chumps drop with us.

    One big happy north eastern relegation party with the Yorkshire smoggies joining in the celebrations but for entirely different reasons.

  • 73 Toon Tang // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    Barca out as well eh. Could be anyone’s now really, even mantitties if and when kompany gets shifting. Look so much more solid with that big bowling ball heed at the back.

  • 74 martoon // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:27 PM

    JFA – Our season tickets are in the Sports Bar – a good view in the middle of the Leazes End right behind the goal and the two bars (Leazes & Gallowgate) are pretty good. Pretty easy to get served although I ‘d recommend pre-ordering any half time drinks.

  • 75 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 13, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    Or go to the pub and not give MA your money…

  • 76 Lindisfarne // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:23 PM

    True but depressing:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/13/why-newcastle-united-supporters-must-swallow-their-anger-as-rele/

  • 77 Fuel Rox // Apr 13, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    Jail for Ashley
    I have no idea what you are talking about..

  • 78 lesh // Apr 14, 2016 at 1:48 AM

    Lindisfarne

    That Luke Edwards article…… Powerful and emotionally written.

    As you say, sad but true and we can only hope that Ashley (or more likely, Bishop) gets to see and think about it.

  • 79 Malta Mag // Apr 14, 2016 at 7:14 AM

    “Little chance of beating Swansea?” Are you being serious Ed? As shite as we are this season I still think we’ll beat Swansea on Saturday. As for the lack of experience, I wouldn’t let Taylor or Jaanmat anywhere near a black and white shirt again and would definitely find a place for Lascelles as I’ve been singing his praises since he came to the club. Mickey Quinn named his team for Saturday in the Evening Chronicle and I agree with him 100%. I do think it’s too little too late if we beat the Swans but at least it would send us into Tuesday’s game with fresh optimism.

  • 80 Komag // Apr 14, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Janmaat not playing is a blessing in disguise..




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