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Klopp’s Comment After The Game Says It All About Newcastle

7:39 am, Sunday, April 24th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 50 Comments

Anybody watching Newcastle United in their last three games and had been on the moon since last August would have thought that Newcastle were indeed a top eight side this season.

But of course we are in 19th place and fighting for our lives in the Premier League after the worst season ever in our Premier League history.

Certainly after 35 games played we have the lowest points total ever – 30 points and just seven wins.

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Jurgen Klopp and Rafa Benitez before the game

And after the game Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp made this short statement about Newcastle:

“Nobody understands why Newcastle are in the relegation zone,”

That´s a good revealing statement from Klopp, especially when you are also told after arriving back from the moon that Newcastle spent the most money of any Premier League club this season on new players in the transfer market – £82M.

There were eight players signed and yet only two started the game yesterday – Chancel Mbemba and Andros Townsend.

The reason we are in such trouble is the abysmal and inept running of the club by Mike Ashley and the Newcastle Board led (is that the right word?) by Lee Charnley.

Hopefully Rafa Benitez can save us this season, but that is by no means certain.

There needs to be some strong action taken by owner Mike Ashley after his review of the season and heads should roll.

Whatever happens, if Ashley can keep Rafa Benitez at the club – even if we are relegated – there is great hope ahead for Newcastle fans.

If he cannot there is none.

Comments welcome.



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50 responses so far ↓

  • 1 sparky55 // Apr 24, 2016 at 7:46 AM

    Morning Bambams

    I think it’s not just the lack of a leader…it’s more of a collective lack of understanding of how to react to way the opposition are playing.

    The players are always looking to the manager as he attempts to help them but at some point these players need to be working it out for themselves…they’re like first year apprentices with no experience or nouse looking for guidance every step of the way

  • 2 Ron Knee // Apr 24, 2016 at 7:59 AM

    Assuming we’re relegated, if Fatso doesn’t sack Charnley, there’s little hope.

  • 3 chicousa // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:03 AM

    Ron,
    My hope is Charnley and Carr both get sacked whether we go down or not!

  • 4 Bambams // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:06 AM

    Sparky

    If they need to be taken by the hand through all the remaining matches then we might be down already.

    I still believe one of the biggest problems we have had for years is our ‘ever growing injury list ‘. I honestly believe some of our players exaggerate their ‘niggles’ because they don’t have the moral fibre to face up to relegation battles.

    Can’t remember our injury list being as long when we were finishing 5th under Pards or our more successful season under SBR/KK

    We really need to turn over CP and Villa to have any chance. I Still think it will go to last game.

    Enjoy your day fella

  • 5 Ron Knee // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:08 AM

    chicousa

    The nightmare would be if Charnley and Carr were left in charge of preparations for the Championship.

  • 6 chicousa // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:16 AM

    Ron,
    Yep the thought of being relegated AND still having Charnley and Carr in charge makes me ill! The one hope I am clinging to is that relegated or not, Rafa stays and is given free hand to run the club. I can’t imagine him putting up with those fools if he is with the club next season!

  • 7 toon rocker // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:17 AM

    Morning. Had a good chat with one of my customers the other day who supports Sheff Wed and goes to every home and away game in the Championship. He rang me after the Man City game, This is what he feels on our current situation.

    1) Worst case – We are relegated and Rafa leaves along with big name players. We will be a ‘reasonable’ force in the league but there are some good teams already there who cannot make top 5 and will still turn you over. May see the Toon in championship for quite a few seasons until change of owner and strategy.

    2) Good but not great – We are relegated and Rafa stays and keeps key players, reminding them that they got themselves where they are and are duty bound to reverse it. Younger players like Mitro, Lascelles, Perez, Mbabu, Armstrong, Aarons will get “battle hardened” in the Championship and forge some good leaders whilst dominating and potentially winning the league thus promotion and re-entry into the Prem. Ashley must fund the £100m revenue loss personally; it’s his fault.

    3) Survival in the Premiership and Rafa stays. Needs to be a clearout probably including but not exclusively Sissoko, Colback and Dummett. Need to bring in an experienced leader and complementary midfielder for Perez and Townsend and the strikers and most definitely a strong left full back. With the sales of one or two of these players and some more Cashley, Rafa will get them playing creative, organised and potentially top five football.

    Its just an “outsider’s take” on the situation but he does have first hand experience of supporting a massive club long fallen from grace!

  • 8 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:53 AM

    Hi

    I know a lass I met on the Metro who supports Tow Law – this is her take on the Toon – Jeepers gimme a break !!!!!

    Anyway was going to say.

    Benitez always functions best when he has a captain or presence on the field who knows his philosophy inside out.
    At Liverpool it wasn’t Gerard as many think but Xabi Alonso
    At Napoli it was Javier Zanetti an old Argentinian war horse who played in the Serie A until he was forty
    At Napoli his captain was Marek Hamsik a Slovakian attacking midfielder who had loads of arguments with Rafa.

    Someone who was at the game said the lads kept looking to the bench for inspiration first half.

    The sooner Rafa sorts out his doppelganger on the field the better.

    He has tried Shelvey and Sissoko thus far.

    Which player would be best to translate Raf’s thoughts on the field during a match ?

    Answers please on a postcard to :-
    Owld Ed
    Raleigh
    N.Carolina
    US of A

  • 9 Bambams // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:57 AM

    Am I just getting carried away but is some of our improvement not down to our two CB’S Lascelles and Mbemba.

    I know Lascelles and Dummet got a bit in each others way yesterday for the first goal, but I feel so much more confident having these two at the back than I have for years with the other previous pairings.

  • 10 chicousa // Apr 24, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    Toonrocker,
    I am feeling more hopeful that Rafa will stay and even if the team goes down the team will be back up the next season. With Rafa that is certainly more likely. But we all may be witnessing a great escape so will only think about your customer’s scenario #3 for now! HWTL!

  • 11 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    Team review:

  • 12 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    Please ignore last comment

  • 13 LocalZero // Apr 24, 2016 at 9:51 AM

    Ed seems to agree with Klopp that nobody understands why nufc have done so badly this year, then says it’s because of the “abysmal and inept running of the club”. You can’t have it both ways.

  • 14 NoahJ // Apr 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    I think the biggest mistake the management have made about this club is not the disastrous (and unfounded) managerial appointments, or the chronic under-spending… the biggest beef I have had with my club now is neglecting to once and for all SORT OUT OUR DEFENCE:

    For goodness sake, we’ve had at least one fullback position covered by a midfielder for basically the entire season, and have played four different midfield players at left back at some point (colback, anita, aarons, sissoko); we neglected to sign a defender in january despite the woeful first half of the season, and a blatant need for one (and three chronically-injured players in Haidara, M’babu and Good); we physically do not have a back-up right back; we let mr versatile ryan taylor go without replacing him; we shipped out on loan our most promising defensive youth product (Lubo Satka); for the swansea and man city games, we didn’t have a single defender on the bench (and only three on the pitch), and half of our first team centre halves were the same one that we were relegated with in 2009.

    This is not the welsh second division, it is premier league football- how can any serious ‘executive’ risk this nonsense?

  • 15 Toon Tang // Apr 24, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    Come on Ars

  • 16 stuart no9 // Apr 24, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    toon -rocker @ 7 —— I am pleased that it just your customers ( Shef Wed fan) take on the situation . Having watched the toon for over 50 years, i think with rafa, if we do go down we will be straight back up , however , we wont go down .

  • 17 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Team review:
    Cisse – has no ability to control the ball and put the rest of the team under pressure time and again. 4/10 despite the goal.
    Sissoko – not at the same level as MC and did not penetrate their penalty box, but worked hard. 7/10 would be higher with more shots.
    Perez – doing a job without much success and he must be frustrated, lack of forward options means he delays passing and then gets swamped. 5/10 needs to give himself space and make crosses.
    Townsend – a real battling performance, full of energy and playing with the team. 8.5/10 I can not remember him making one of those frustrating solo efforts.
    Tiote – where have you been? Back on top form but still picking up silly YC when there is no need. 7/10 although first half (5/10)they were in control.
    Colback – GP label makes me laugh as his only quality is willingness, he was lost in the first half and gladly showed up to take the goal. 6/10 he ain’t no midfield general.
    Dummett – looked tired slightly, slow and not accurate enough with passes. Mostly defended the flank well but could have been more costly and more effective going forward. 5/10
    Lascelles – not on his game but did a job, could have dealt with their first goal better. Relied on his partner but still good learning 5/10
    Mbemba – great effort all round, not to blame for their second but a blemish. 6/10
    Anita – very effective again and does not get caught out when trying to make things happen in attack.

  • 18 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    [WARNING: do not willingly get a Microsoft phone]

    Anita 8/10
    Darlow – bit flappy again but makes saves. 5/10
    Wijnaldum – better but did not do enough to secure a start. 5/10
    Mitrovic – a better presence on the pitch and links up with others 7/10.
    Shelvey – a bizarre appearance, having failed to replace Tiote adequately against MC he took up the #10 position with Sissoko dropping back(!!!). He then failed to produce anything of significance but flapped his arms at others. 4/10

    Benitez – repeatedly made the team more compact from the sidelines and did his job at halftime. It maybe due to limitations but all subs were in attack, which put more pressure on their back line but without any direct effect.

  • 19 lesh // Apr 24, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    Lindisfarne

    What model nokia/ Microsoft phone you got? I’ve got a 630 and the screen’s a little frustrating, to say the least.

  • 20 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    Lesh

    I do not remember the specific model number (the case is orange), it was new model last June/July.
    For such established company the usability is very frustrating. Particularly the curser, is cursory, full of glitches and is either unresponsive or unhelpful. It reminds me of a Nissan van being made bad by the French car maker.

  • 21 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    A lot of the Liverpool pro media are saying we did so well courtesy of Mamadou Sakho’s failed drugs test .
    My personal feeling is that his absence was more than covered by Kolo Touré and it’s just typical bindipper sour grapes.

  • 22 mindshaft // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Decent 2nd half showing yesterday and a good point, not sure it’ll be enough for us to stay up – we really need to get 9 points out of our last 3 games and hope mackems drop points.
    Most people including mackems and Norwich would have thought we would get nothing from city and bindipper games so hopefully it’s piled pressure on them
    shame Shelvey and Cisse didn’t take chances
    Darlow is a big worry
    Anita needs to stay at RB even if Janmaat is fit

    Never buy a Nokia / Microsoft phone – worst phone I ever owned – had to ditch mine , worse than sh1te

  • 23 lesh // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Lindisfarne

    A Nissan made by Frenchmen or a football club owned by the owner of a sportswear retailer?

    The Nissan’s my preferred option but Microsoft’s phones’ve got to get better….. Haven’t they?

  • 24 bettyswallocks // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Lindisfarne…….. You forgot to give Rafa his points out of ten!

  • 25 lesh // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Jib

    You haven’t got it yet have you? Scouser’s are always wronged, the victims of circumstance.

  • 26 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    We’ll put Palace and Villa away no danger so on matchday 38 at 3pm Sunday 15th May we will be kicking off against Spurs at SJP with 36 points in the bag.
    Will it be enough ?
    Which of Sunlun or Norwich will falter?
    Someone said earlier that the EPL is better than a scripted drama – they were not wrong !

  • 27 lesh // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Bettys

    Who’s Rafa?

  • 28 lesh // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    Jib

    Scripted drama? No, in our case the final scene of a tragedy!

  • 29 The overrated Frenchman // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    I think it’s a fair point to say that we don’t have an obvious on-field “general”, and that’s certainly something we could do with. Colo is the worst example of a captain I’ve ever seen. I thought maybe Gini or Janmaat might step up but no such luck. They’ve gone missing when it counts. Shelvey and Sissoko are both too selfish – “Hollywood players”. De Jong would be a good captain, I feel sure, but Benitez seems to have taken a set against him for some unfathomable reason, one which I think he should be asked to justify at some point.

  • 30 Thump // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    @Jib: Honestly, I think any pace in the forward line would have torn Sakho ragged; the man has a turning circle of an oil tanker (or one Steven Taylor). Even then, I can’t recall either goal being specifically Toure’s fault, so ‘sour grapes’ seems to be a bit of an understatement.

  • 31 Hail Wor Ashley // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    People giving players 8+/10 – really?

    8 is the max I’d give anybody in the Man City match and we were much better.

    Darlow – 6/10 – a few shaky moments, overall decent enough

    Anita – 7/10 – solid, positionally sound again and delivered a peachy cross.

    Mbemba – 6.5/10 – a so-so match, wasn’t really noticeable for any faults or great defending.

    Lascelles – 6/10 – For all his talk of communication, he and Dummet didn’t do very well standing single file behind Sturridge allowing him to get his shot off for the opener. Otherwise decent once again and having a defender that can do the basics first is so much help.

    Dummet – 5/10 – Distribution back to it’s worst and was quite porous, but that was because he wasn’t getting much assistance and was often 2 vs 1. Again needed to be much more aggressive with Sturridge for the goal.

    Tiote – 6/10 – wasn’t anticipating things as well as the Man City match, still his presence was felt, although once on a yellow I’m always on tenterhooks.

    Colback – 6/10 – plenty of running as usual, but good grief somebody sit down with him and tell him to recognise when he has the opposition right where he wants them, so often goes overboard with petty fouls. Would like to see more of him arriving late in the box.

    Townsend – 7/10 – Works his knackers off every match, him and Anita forming a good partnerships, always positive on the ball even when not having much joy against an equally quick Moreno, kept taking it to them.

    Perez – 5.5/10 – Some good movement but needs to do LESS when he gets it. Still a willing runner and perhaps should’ve been awarded a pen.

    Sissoko – 6/10 – quiet game from him, seems the roar of St James’ gives his legs extra horsepower

    Cisse – 6/10 – Man his touch is truly horrendous, spurned a great chance when through. Showing good little flicks and knock downs with his head. Looking more sprightly than for a long time which is I’m sure why he’s ahead of Mitro, Helps defend from the front. Good headed goal.

    Subs:

    Gini – 6/10 – A few counters he was involved in, other than that just cruised.

    Mitro – 5.5/10 – Way too lethargic when coming on, expected more aggression and work. Didn’t close down quick enough allowing their defenders to come out nor hold it up any better than Cisse. One good flick on.

    Shelvey – 5/10- Only on for 10mins and showed why he’s been dropped, made Mitrovic look lively in comparison. Way too cumbersome and just jogged back after wasting the ball in a good position. Think his confidence has taken a major hit after been elevated to hero, given the captaincy prematurely, which really affected his game. Needs to put it behind him and refocus.

  • 32 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:47 AM

    The slowest turning player at The Toon had to be Stevie Watson 😀

    He’s now part of Lee Clark’s coaching team I believe.

  • 33 Mag52 // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    Jail,

    Re. a previous post.
    Bringing Rafa in is not ‘too little’ only if : a) He stays with us if we are relegated.
    b) Ashley, finally realizing that he needs to go with a top manager in future, replaces him with another good one.
    If you believe either of these scenarios are likely, then you are a real optimist.

  • 34 smoke beer, drink tabs // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    I know we are on a good little run now (for us) but we had 2 “must wins” a month ago against Mackems and Norwich. Can’t stop thinking that the defeat to Norwich could be the big game that sends us down. Even a draw there might have kept us up. I know we have lost many other games we would have took points from but given our position a month ago they were the two big games we needed points from

  • 35 Mag52 // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:56 AM

    Jib,

    Neither Palace nor Villa will be walkovers.
    Palace because of you know who, and some perverse desire he might possibly have to sink us (I wonder why), and Villa who, with their fate already sealed, will play without fear, and could want to show what they are actually capable of.

  • 36 stuart no9 // Apr 24, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    Jib–@ 21——so are the bindippers actually saying that without sakho they are sh.t ? thats a nice compliment for their team isnit ?? without one player their f””ked hahahah.. Nice

  • 37 bettyswallocks // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    We must all make some allowances for Jib. He actually has a speech impediment. His foot.

  • 38 The overrated Frenchman // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Hail@31. Agree Townsend and Anita were our best and 7 is about the right mark. 5-6 for the rest, although Perez would be a 4 for me. His contribution is habitually much ado about nothing. Been one of the biggest disappointments of the season, amongst many of course.

  • 39 stuart no9 // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:05 PM

    Mag 52 @ 35 —- having watched villa yesterday , i couldnt see any difference than before they were relagated . We got rafa to sort us out , villa have nobody , they are still like we were before rafa came . a total mess

  • 40 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Betty
    For your elucidation
    http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/04/day-forget-sakho-will-big-miss-media-reacted-liverpool-2-2-newcastle/

    I there are too many big words for you – you can contact me here
    jib@idonothavesweatybollix.net

  • 41 Bobbybee // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    We need to win our remaining three games and fate will take care of the rest. Personally i think nine points will do it and that’s not beyond the realms of possibility given the way Rafa has got into the players heads. We need to blow Palace away, regardless of who their manager is. SJP will be bouncing and could be the ideal launching pad for the final run in. Villa are truly woeful and there for the taking. Which will leave Spurs, who might be feeling totally dejected having lost out to Leicester already. Another rocking full house might be enough to tilt it our way. That leaves the mackems. Yes, they can get nine points, but it’s less likely than us getting them. Some seem to be mistaking the mackems for a good team lately, but another defeat today will leave them flapping. Norwich are, imo, already doomed. We’re not down yet, not by a long chalk. The nine points are completely in our own hands and are a must. Sunderland to win 3/5 might be too much for them. If not, we can bounce straight back – especially if Rafa decides to stay. And that too, is not beyond the realms of possibility.

  • 42 Jib // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    If even

  • 43 The overrated Frenchman // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    smoke beer, drink tabs@34. Nail on the head there. Vital points to be had against relegation rivals, worth their weight in gold and not delivered. Those two games were where we blew our last chance, which we barely deserved anyway.

  • 44 bettyswallocks // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Jib….. Easy boy, I was only teasing. Be careful not to let your brains go to your head. X

  • 45 Lindisfarne // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Benitez 10/10

  • 46 bettyswallocks // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Bobby…… I am confident of us winning our next two but the Tottenham game will depend what Leicester have done by then. Still think it’s possible though. The pessimists might be proved right in the long run but the optimists will have more fun during the journey. Keep the faith.

  • 47 bettyswallocks // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    Lindisfarne….. I concur.

  • 48 ascot7 // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    This is a good point, and it could be a problem with their diet. The players may eat to much junk food. Makes them sleep walk. True. Stay away from Macas.

  • 49 Bobbybee // Apr 24, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    Mingnolet getting stick for Cisse’s header, but I thought the cross completely bamboozled him. It lingered long enough for him – or many other keepers – to believe he could reach it, but continued to curl away from him until it reached Cisses napper. In slow motion you can see he looks to have reached it, but that outswing just takes it millimetres away from his hand. One of the best crosses this season by anybody and more credit to Anita than blame on Mignolet.

  • 50 toonincheek // Apr 24, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Wish I could be as confident about the next two games.
    Weaker opposition, for sure, but my long-standing memory
    of NUFC is that we play well against the good teams but
    screw it up when we ought to win against a weaker team.

    Hoping hoping hoping Rafa can sort that out.
    Lose against eitehr Palace or Villa and the players know
    where they will be playing next season.




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