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Why Rafa Benitez Must Be Newcastle’s Future

2:02 pm, Monday, April 25th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 276 Comments

I’ve been so impressed with Rafa Benitez since he arrived on Tyneside – maybe it’s because we now have a man at Newcastle who is simply perfect for the job.

He is even perfect for owner Mike Ashley, because if Mike wants somebody to manage the club and Ashley wants to take a hands-off approach then who better than Rafa to do that?

The 56 year-old is a true workaholic and just loves the job he has as a football manager and he should be offered full control of whatever he wants control of at the club.

rafa benitez arrives at st james pk

Rafa Benitez – must be Newcastle’s future

If we stay up there should be no problem and it will be interesting to see how Rafa starts to change the team and change the club in the summer.

The huge worry for Newcastle fans is after we finally have a world-class manager at Newcastle, if he leaves in the summer because we are relegated,  it could be the final insult to some of Newcastle’s fan-base.

We are all fed up with the likes of Lee Charnley and Graham Carr being less than mediocre in the jobs they have (I’m being kind) and the way they seem to have not used the massive £82M on transfers to strengthen the side.

We still have one of the worst defenses  in the Premier League.

We are not even going to mention hiring a sacked Championship manager last summer and saying he was the perfect coach for Newcastle.

It was telling that of the eight players we signed this season, only two started on Saturday and three were on the bench and one of them has already bolted back to France.

Mike Ashley has a chance to secure Rafa on a long term basis at the club whatever happens in the final three games of this terrible season.

Ashley should sit down with Rafa and ask what does he wants to stay on at Newcastle if we are relegated.

Being in  control of all transfers is the first thing and that should be a no-brainer, b.ut there may be other things that Rafa may want control of.

Mike should give him that and urge this is a long term association and he could even offer him the promise of an eight year contract and a £2M bonus if he got promoted straight back to the Premier League.

Now that we have Rafa at the club and we have seen how he can leave out the top players and still have a team that can compete with the likes of Liverpool and Manchester City – even now – he should be retained at all costs.

If we are relegated and Rafa leaves that is the complete disaster scenario for Newcastle fans who are already  completely fed up with the incompetents running the club.

Maybe fans can start sending Rafa messages asking him to stay on and build us into the great team and great club we should be.

Mike Ashley is no fool and he should see that keeping Rafa – whatever happens in  the next three games – is a get out of jail card for him with the fans – after the incompetence of this season and last season.

The previous seven seasons with Ashley as owner were not too great either.

If we stay up then everything should be fine – if we go down then Ashley must show initiative, drive and ambition to ensure Rafa Benitez stays at the club.

If he does that the fans will be happy enough and then Rafa and his team can start planning to make Newcastle great again.

And Rafa Benitez  can certainly be successful in doing that.

Howay The Lads!!



Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Other News · Prayer · Premier League




276 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Hail Wor Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    Bobby

    Scanned over it and I think after seeing the length I’ll give it a miss…..

    No need to read another iteration of your self-important life story and how you have no personal agency written in a child-like wall of text fashion, indicative of your inability to form a coherent argument, which is why you just go for the scattergun approach.

    Nothing to be gleaned or gained by continuing.

    A break from here is due I think. Twitter best for good-natured interaction with NUFC fans. See you all on the other side.

    HTL!!

  • 2 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    There are reports that no matter which division NUFC ends up in – Taylor’s contract will not be renewed in June and Coloccini will be given a severance package to enable him to return to Argentina.

  • 3 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    There’s a few on the books could do with their packages severed. Actually Lee already might have had it done, he looks like he could sing soprano.

  • 4 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Away ya gan, bonny lad. No proper response to how we’re worse off now, because their isn’t one. Proven wrong so scuttle off. Bit like rats and sinking ships eh? My case is rested. Like it or not we are better off, albeit not ideal. Three games left and we need to win them all. We will be out in force on saturday, the true believers – right or wrong. Don’t want to give us your backing? Fine, nuff said really. You are what you are. I am what I am. I’m happy being me, with my positive outlook and never say die attitude. If that’s a fault, I’ll take it all day.

  • 5 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Well I’m not entirely sorry I missed last night’s aneurysm party. 😀

  • 6 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Bobby

    You don’t have to explain yourself to anyone on here.

  • 7 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Blackley

    From this morning, nice of you to repeat what I say then try and turn it around.

  • 8 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Bobby……… Setting aside all the disagreements and the he said she said, I have total respect for your passion and dedication to this club. When the TV pundits and managers from other clubs talk about NUFC’ S loyal fans you are definitely the epitomy of one. My advice is to focus your energy on Saturday and rallying the troops to make SJP the fortress it used to be and make Pardew and his cockney mob feel very unwelcome. I can’t be there but I ll be there in spirit HWTL.

  • 9 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Anyway we will stay up, Sunderland will draw a lot of their remaining games they rely to much on Defoe, Norwich have got tougher games than us, we will beat Palace, Villa and Spurs, we have beaten Spurs at home in the last couple of seasons.

  • 10 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Welshie…. You do though, you’re a Swansea fan with a partiality to sheep on aNUFC blog.

  • 11 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:44 PM

    Whether we stay up or not, in the summer need to get rid of shelvey, waste of money, waste of space.

  • 12 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    Jib, not a moment too soon re Taylor and collo. Decent servants in their day, but their day has gone. This is typical Rafa. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly. Love to get his take on those already giving up. Would’t be pretty, that’s for sure. 🙂 I just don’t get some people because they’re just so far removed from my ideals. Rafa has come along, risking his reputation on an impossible mission, and some ‘fans’ won’t give him the time of day. Anyway, roll on saturday marra. See how a win might alter some opinions. If we lose, wtf? So many on here had us in division one a couple of weeks ago. Can’t alter their stance because they’re so desperate to be right, regardless of the cost to the club. When the maths say we can’t survive, I’ll accept it. But with so much future to play for ie Rafa staying and rebuilding the club, why would you give up already?
    Anyway, collo and tayls have reached the end of their journey, but the future looks bright with Lascelles growing by the game and Mbemba looking more the part in this partnership. Still fancy Rafa to stay, survive or not. I think he’s fallen in love with a large part of our fanbase and fancies being another legend in another city. Glad he doesn’t read this blog ffs lol. He’d pack up and leave us.

  • 13 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Bettybollocks

    There’s a difference my friend, i reply back because it’s more fun that way, if people going to have a hissy fit over words then they are not going to last long in the real world.

  • 14 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Sheep sheep sheep, I would be more offended if you come up with something new.

    Ha ha ha

  • 15 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    I like your banter Welshie, honestly. Don’t feel that you’re totally useless as a toon fan. We can always use you as a bad example.x

  • 16 Hail Wor Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:52 PM

    Bobby

    Before the weekend Sunderland had 1 game in hand and were 1pt in front of us.

    They are still 1pt in front of us with 1 game in hand, if we had an infinite number of games to play we’d be in the same position, but because we now have 1 less chance to make up the difference, we’re slightly worse off, that’s the bare bones of the situation. You either have the capacity to understand that or not.

    Need it writing out in mathematical formulae? It’s the absolute truth I can assure you.

    Then there’s the factor we thought after our good point we would gain slightly, anticipating a Sunderland loss, they then didn’t lose so there’s gonna be increased trepidation about our position, which makes wins all the more essential now and I hope the crowd do leave Pardew quaking on Saturday.

    Anyway, it’s toxic on here so that’s why I’m using other places to get my fix from now on. Thought I ought to explain it as plain as possible.

    Now I really am oot!

  • 17 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Welshie and betty. Cheers for that lads. I know i’m not a lone voive lads, but its nice to get a bit of backing. I’ve just laid out my case again and requested they offer an alternative view, but got no takers, just more childish abuse. We are better off aren’t we? I’m not a mental case am i ? I just don’t get how allegedly intelligent people can’t work it out for themselves. They give it large when i’m not here, then scuttle off when given a challenge when i return. It’s still there. Someone please explain how were not better off, because if that is the case, i’m unable to see it. No change in points required, but them one game worse off. To me it’s blindingly obvious, as it is to Rafa himself. He seems happy with the draw. Draw every game for me you SMB’S, suits us down to the ground. Can’t please some people though. Had sunlun won, i might be concerned, but they drew and the target right now is still 32 points.

  • 18 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    Bobby…If I may, you often say that people don’t know you, so shouldn’t assume to know what it is you’re thinking, why is it you don’t do the same with others?

    You think people are saying they think we’ll be relegated to be proven right? Does that apply to all people who have said it?

    You are as bad as those you have a problem with, most likely myself included. Just on the other end of the scale.

    We are in the mess we are in, nothing can be done other than to take each game as it comes. We could still lose our next game and stay up. We could win our next 3 and go down.

    I would hazard a guess (but it is only that) that there are ST holders, who go week in, week out, who think we’re relegated.

    Much like the aggro over protests in the past, the opinion split has nothing to do with what type of fan you are, what your back ground is, how many games you’ve been to. There were shared and differing opinions within those same camps, and still are.

    It just serves no place in this debate, or any debate, other than “who is the best fan out there”.

    For that, you get my vote everyday, so it’s not even a debate.

  • 19 Moonraker15 // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    Coloccini getting a severance package! What a joke. I’m convinced he’s not injured, he does this every season now, what has that joker achieved since he’s been here on 60 odd grand a week! I haven’t even heard the twat speak all the years he’s been here. If we go down he will have a record of the only captain to be relegated twice at the same club! Wtf was McClaren on, to make him captain again and extend his contract? if they wrote a book about the last 10 years at our club they would think it too far fetched; £82 million spent and only 1 of the players signed in the starting line up! Now all we need is for relegation and Rafa to be allowed to go. I believe he would stay and bring us back up IF ASKED by Ashley. But has fatso got the will to do it? Still, I live in hope we win our last 3 games and stay up. Actually if we don’t beat Palace and Villa we deserve to go down but the incompetence of previous bosses is staggering. We all know that Newcastle should never be out of the top ten! Rant over.

  • 20 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    Moonraker – apart from that though, it’s all worked out rather well.

  • 21 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    Ibiza…… I hope you were being sincere there in your last two sentences.
    It would be wholly inappropriate under the circumstances if not.

  • 22 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Betty…I have never for a second doubted that Bobby is a loyal match attending fan.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Can I ask though, why is it you praise Bobby for his qualities, but brush the “he said, she said” of his lesser points under the carpet. Yet you see me, and I must be questioned?

    There was plenty in Bobbys posts that I believe to be “wholly inappropriate under the circumstances”, wouldn’t you agree?

    You should know by now, that I don’t really give two hoots what type of fan someone is. We all have an opinion (which can be right or wrong, whether you attend in person or not) and we all have a part to play. It is a team effort after all.

  • 23 Moonraker15 // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    HWA
    I don’t agree that we are worse off. as before the weekend we had to play Liverpool away and they had Arsenal at home. They dropped 2 home points and we gained an away point, which we weren’t expecting!
    So they sill have the same points difference but we now have a home banker v Palace whilst they have an away game at Stoke. In my eyes we are better off as I didn’t even expect 1 point from the 2 games Man city or Liverpool! Is this the season when Sam doesn’t escape relegation? Will Rafa gain legendary status in Newcastle? Cmmmonnnn !

  • 24 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    Hail, your simply wrong. Our games to play hasn’t altered since the mackem game. THEIRS HAS. It’s not about sunlun, it’s all about 17th place. You are right though, either you can grasp it or you can’t and you are failing miserably. 32 points is currently the cut off point, no different than it was before either side played, let alone sunlun. For someone claiming intelectual seniority you really are dim. Explain again eh? Before they played arsenal, they had TWO games in hand, right? Still with me? The safety point was 32 points because norwich had 31 points and sunlun have a better gd. Still with me? We had three games left. So, after the game, we still have three games left. The safety net is still 32 points, although that will probably change after the next round of games. It might not, but probably will. Right now it’s still 32. Nothing has changed. The target is exactly how it was before they kicked off. The only difference is there’s now two clubs on 31 instead of one. Hope i haven’t lost you yet, this really isn’t difficult. The other big difference being that sunlun now only have one game in hand, not two. Granted, it’s not ideal, but it wasn’t when Rafa took over a bunch of misfiring misfits. Technically its out of our hands, but if we can get seven points it might be enough. Nine will virtually save us, but if not, we went down fighting. Virtually every pundit is saying 37 will do it. It’s in our own hands to get 39 and two of the games you couldn’t have hand picked any better – palace and villa. Lose them and yes, we deserve to go down, but until then, wtf are you talking about? Lets get the 37/39 points we are capable of and then see where we sit. Sunlun through a game in hand away yesterday simply by not getting max points after our draw. Had they got 33 points it would’ve been nasty, but they only caught up with norwich and lost a game in hand. Jesus wept.

  • 25 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Ibiza……. I just detected a hint of sarcasm in your declaration that Bobby was the best fan that’s all. If you say it was meant sincerely then fine. I just think that without patronising Bobby and being labelled a sycophant he deserves more respect under his circumstances than he was shown last night.

  • 26 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    While of course acknowledging the inherent risk in jumping into an already raging torrent, surely if the soap dodgers have used one of their games in hand over us to gain one point against Arsenal rather than zero, that makes it one point harder for us to overcome?

  • 27 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    ..maybe things have become slightly less unchanged than they might have been?….

  • 28 Moonraker15 // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Tsunki
    Yes it has gone well really! Haha

  • 29 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Betty…And in my opinion, Bobby could show a hell of a lot more respect for others too.

    I often think he tries to get too much info in to a discussion. It goes of course and manages to group everyone who is different than him in to one box. It happens easily enough, it’s happened to me on many occasions, unintentionally.

    I’ll always have a hint of sarcasm in my posts. I am sarcastic.

    Bobby knows we’ve had a tested relationship on here, but it has nothing to do with him being a loyal fan. The fans were one of the biggest draws for me, being a half blooded toon fan down south as a child.

    It was quite an eye opener to me, to realise that some of those fans looked at fans like me with disgust, but you can’t win them all I guess.

  • 30 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    I wish Jesper was here. He would be great at handling these circular arguments. You know how he loves rotating things 🙂

  • 31 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Ibiza it may be an alien concept to contemplate the fate of this club if it depended solely on the support of the matchgoing fans.

  • 32 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Tsunki……. Very good. I do actually miss him.

  • 33 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Tsunki…I think this is a case of calculating things in two different ways.

    I guess, big picture thinking and working on the assumption that Norwich and Sunderland wont win all their games, then there is a point to be made, that the big picture hasn’t changed. We still need to win our games and we still need them not to win theirs. I’m just not sure what people are basing these wins and losses on at this stage. Who knows wtf will happen in the last games?

    We could lose our next two, beat Spurs, with Norwich and Sunderland losing all their remaining games and we’ll stay up.

    Still, a point gained for Sunderland, is a point lost for us, in the race to avoid relegation, surely.

  • 34 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Moonraker! The voice of reason from the darkness. Of course we’re better off marra. No further behind but they’ve lost a game in hand. Obvious isn’t it? Blindingly, if you have the capacity to grasp it, which hail clearly doesn’t.
    Ibiza, i don’t pretend to know anybody on here, as i’ve recently stated. The better fan nonsense was again manipulated to make look the bad guy. I am what i am, nothing more, nothing less. A passionate, match going ST holder and proud of it. Yes, i moved houses so i could attend games when my mobility got bad and have given up drinking for my love of the beautiful game, but i would never expect anybody to emulate that. I accept i probably have an obsession about newcastle that might be viewed as a bit weird, but thats me, warts and all. I don’t believe anybody is less of a fan because they are not like me, but i find it bizarre that any fan would write us off already with such a massive future to play for. Stay up and let Rafa rebuild? What an opportunity. Too good to not back the guy 100% when he’s put his reputation on the line for us. He believes we can do it so we should all get behind him and push for what we all want really. Throwing the towel in when 7 points could save us and nine probably will? Wtf is that about. To throw the towel in now is to give up on our dreams of reaching the big time again and i’m not ready to do that yet. I’d be gobsmacked if you did.

  • 35 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    Ibiza……. You mustn’t develop an inferiority complex about being firstly a southerner and secondly a non- attender. These are your hang ups and you must learn to come to terms with them.

  • 36 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:36 PM

    Tsunki…Joking aside, I do think something was missed with what Jesper was saying that day.

    Have we not seen a bit of a shift towards that anyway? Shelvey, now Sissoko, with Lascelles unofficially kicking backsides in the background?

    I didn’t think it was a good idea to lose the title of captain, but there was some interesting points in there for me, which got lost in the midst of piss taking.

    As for @31…I’m not following 🙂

  • 37 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM

    Tsunki. Please listen. Forget sunlun. 17th place is all that matters, nothing more. The one point they gained has changed nothing for us. We had to aim for 32 points before they kicked off; we still have to now. Their point is pointless in the bigger scheme of things. What isn’t pointless, is they’ve lost a game in hand without affecting our current situation. The gap is still the same. The target didn’t change as it would have if they’d won. It truly isn’t rocket science. Sunlun now have the same as norwich pointwise, so as before, 32 points is the current target we need to achieve.
    Ibiza, maybe i could’ve handled it differently, but calling me an idiot tends to get my back up. One thing will never change: give me personal abuse and expect it back threefold. Until then, i remain polite.

  • 38 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    Betty…I don’t feel the need to ask whether there was a hint of sarcasm.

    As per my last post, couldn’t give two hoots.

    Bobby…I think you’re mixing things though.

    Are you saying that match going fans are throwing in the towel? Or is it some people on a blog think we’ve left it too late? Do you think that discussions on this blog will either save us or relegate us?

    It’s not about people on a blog. If we go down, it’s because of those in charge of running the club.

    I am not resigned to relegation however. I am more hopeful towards NUFC than I’ve been in years.

    You and I are quite different though. I am delighted to see Rafa at the helm, but do still have great concerns over the future of our club, which are not directly related to the team that goes on the field, which I know you don’t like to discuss, so will leave that there.

    Bobby, the “Better fan” stuff comes up because you use it as your fall back point. It really doesn’t serve any purpose, unless you are trying to say “i go, so my opinion is more valid”, which is how it’s perceived. That will always get a bad reaction Much like when I say that match going fans have been part of the problem in the past.

    Stick to your main point if you don’t want these type of debates. In short, my summary is that it is your opinion that at this stage it is our duty to remain optimistic until math says otherwise.

    I can’t imagine that would have got quite the same response that you got.

  • 39 lesh // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Don’t want to sound like a wet blanket, but it took Ashley to force McLaren’s sacking some four weeks after the Chelsea debacle.

    Charnley, supported by Carr no doubt, harboured faint hope that McLaren would turn things around after being in the relegation zone all season and didn’t have the wit or the balls to call time on his tenure.

    Too late in appointing Rafs, unless Ashley gets on the case quickly, Rafa’ll be away before Charnley gets round to even thinking about retaining him. Maybe it’s time to get the pro-Rafa banners out at SJP – or even a massive pass-around flag in the hope that they tie Rafa down – regardless of costs!

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Surely we’d be better off if the mackems had lost.

  • 41 reilly // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    fkin hate to say it but the scum are playing well and i carnt see them dropping many points in there last 4 games.
    my heart says we can stay up my head says we are fked.

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    What’s with a safety net of 32 points ffs. Basically if the mackems had of lost we could afford them to win two and draw to, a draw yesterday means even if we win all three that would leave them ahead of us, unless we beat Villa and Palace 5-0 each. It has been out of our hands since the draw with the mackems.

  • 43 clinath@ed // Apr 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Jail, long term you are correct. But as of today, Bobby is not wrong.

  • 44 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    On the points debate I get what Bobby is driving at but can also see that a large win for Arsenal would have meant no further points(s) for them and a dent to goal difference with one less game for them. As it happens anything short of a Mackem win left us with needing to win 3 games and still relying heavily on other results. Where it appeared that the light at the end of the tunnel had all been extinguished a few games ago it is still flickering so keep believing no matter how slight the chance.

    I believe Booby’s biggest grievance arises from him ( and all other match going fans) being unfairly branded ( directly and indirectly) as being part of the problem if not the main reason why Ashley gets away with it. It is especially galling if that branding is made by those who have no sacrifice to make when calling for boycotts as they never have attended (regularly if at all).

    Last year there was an Ashley Out campaign for the home Spurs game arranged by them ( a gathering in the park) and promoted on here. Presumably as he is still here and if we cannot stay up by then we will see a revival of that for our last game of the season.

  • 45 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    Bobby not Booby – sorry

  • 46 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Jail, we would be no better off if they had lost. In our personal vendetta with them we might have been, but 17th place is what matters, not how sunlun do. Had they lost, we would still require 32 points to reach 17th because norwich had 31 already. The fact that there’s now two teams on 31 is neither here nor there, we still need to reach 32 currently. That will probably change as games progress. It’s not about sunlun. It’s not about you and me throwing our toys at each other, it’s all about survival. Had sunlun won, things would be massively different as we’d now require 34 points to be safe, but the draw kept the gap identical – 32 points. Monumental difference. Another win difference. We need to keep the faith and trust in Rafa. Even if he fails, we all know where the blame lies and i would be gobsmacked again if charnley and carr survive this summers inquest. Untenable was made for their situation.

  • 47 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Magscar……. Good summary.

  • 48 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:09 PM

    No offence taken marra. 🙂

  • 49 hibbitt // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:09 PM

    just read last nights bust up some two faced twats on here bobbys got his opinions and if you dont like what he says don’t read it……. might just be to close to the truth for some of you

    the keyboard warrior WUMS on here have a lot to answer for hiding behind there anonymity

    it’s not just sitting in front of a computer it’s every minute of every day the city lives and breathes football fans who go to games breath in the atmosphere the excitement the joy of winning the depression of losing is far greater live no matter how big your telly is

    bobby has a point if you dont like it dont read it we have to put up with your fifa football manager bullshit

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Bobby,
    It hasn’t made a huge difference but they gained what could be a crucial point at the end of the season. If they fail to win on Saturday and we do we go out of the relagation zone till after Arsenal v Norwich at least, a draw in their game in hand against Everton will be enough to take it out of our hands again.

  • 51 hibbitt // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    there’s no doubt Rafa was brought in late but the clowns made that decision we are were we are all we can do is win our games and see were we end up

  • 52 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM

    Hibbit the voice of calm.

    Jail no no no I understand clearly now. Things have remained unchanged. Only now they are slightly less unchanged by one point. Simple really.

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    For the record, I wanted a boycott of the Spurs game which I actively supported. I have never slagged people for going to games, I go myself
    I did say I would stop going until their was suitable investement. 80M was spent and you can’t argue with that. I am not a fcukin hypocrite for going to the game to lend my support in this tome of need. I want shot of Ashley because of the way he has dragged the club through the mud and has had no sporting ambition. If he was to retain Rafa and give him full control and funds then there wouldn’t be an Ashley out sentiment. The reason there is, is because of the second rate chancers we’ve had in charge and his desire to win fcuk all.

  • 54 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    Tsunki…… You are missing the point.

  • 55 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    If we and the scum had both lost we’d be pointless and so would they.

  • 56 hibbitt // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    3 games to go all we can do as fans is give 100% support to rafa and the players for those 3 games lets have the inquest after the spurs game when we will either be in the prem or the championship

  • 57 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    Jail, in reality its already out of our hands because if norwich and sunlun win all their games we go down. The reality though is they won’t win all of them. They will lose games – we all might. If we can win against two of the poorest teams in the league – excluding ourselves – we give ourselves a chance going into the final day. Rafa has instilled discipline and belief where before there was none. No question that it should have come sooner, but it is what it is. We all know who is to blame and they are dead men walking.

    Betty, wasting your time mate. That would take them to say those terrible words that choke them – yes, you’re right, i was wrong. 🙂 Not heard them yet, can’t imagine it ever happening.

  • 58 mindshaft // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    Rafa staying at toon in the event of relegation is probably dependent on if a better club offers him a job – highly likely Everton will be looking for a new manager for next season which would probably suit Benitez as his family still live in Liverpool
    Not sure he sees himself as manager of a championship club so lets hope we stay up

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Who is right or wrong about what. I’ve lost track after being slated last night when I hadn’t even been on. If it’s about whether or not we’d be better off if the mackems had of lost then it’s a no brainer.

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:49 PM

    And of course it’s out of our hands, it has been since we drew against the mackems.

  • 61 hibbitt // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    mindshaft

    Rafa is very well thought of by the liverpool fans not sure the feeling would stay if he took the everton job
    not even sure it a better job then us in the championship

  • 62 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Hope Leicester win the league – therefore Spurs might have nothing to play for.
    If the title gets to the last game – us v Spurs I really cannot see a good outcome as some of their players are on fire at the moment.
    If results go our way -we do stand a chance – all I’m saying is that I hope the last game does not turn out to be the title/relegation decider.

    Spurs will get 3 points tonight v West Brom – they play Chelsea next. I think if Spurs lose one game and Leicester win another the title is theirs.

  • 63 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Yep Bring back Jesper !!

  • 64 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    That’s the spirit hibbett, every single one of us needs to get behind Rafa and the lads. As i said, remember Arsenal and the great comeback. Completely inspired by the raging toon army. We genuinely can be the 12th man and in fact, need to rise to the occasion for all three games. If we fall short, Rafa can still hold his head high. Would we have ever come back from two down at Anfield under previous management? Not in a million years! Let’s be honest, we were a basket case before he came along. Had he been brought in sooner we might already be safe because he was always going to take time to change the entire thought process, but we can still do it despite the odds. Before this weekends matches we were 17/1 on to go down. Not checked, but i can’t see us being such massive odds on now. Belief can save us. Belief from Rafa, the players and us fans. One game at a time. First palace, lets win that one and see how we stand then.

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    mindshaft,
    No doubt there’ll be better job offers but hopefully he’s developed an affection for the club and Ashley is prepared to back him. Hopefully we can win the last three and it becomes a moot point.

  • 66 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    Betty I take your point. Glad you pointed it out.

  • 67 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    Jail – “Moot Point”. Brilliant. Hat being doffed at this very moment 😀

  • 68 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:00 PM

    Tuff, can’t see the final game having any bearing on the title. As you point out, the title should be Leicester’s before that game. Let’s hope so anyway. A slightly deflated spurs has to help us. They’ll probably have second place wrapped up by then as well and it might be a dead rubber for them. If they need a win we might well be in deep do do, so let’s hope that isn’t the case. We have to believe we can survive or we might as well throw the towel in. Can’t see Rafa doing that though.

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    Of course we have do believe we can survive. I believe we can but don’t think we will. It won’t stop me from singing as loud as the Milburn stand allows on Saturday. We also need to get two goals ahead and go for goals, a four or five goal thrashing would be great.

  • 70 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    Bobbybee – the tragedy is that apart from us winning we need Sunderland and Norwich to fail.
    The team knows what they have to do now -win – so I think we need intervention from on high as far as Sunderland and Norwich are concerned.

  • 71 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    Just checked. We were 17/1 on to go down before the mackem game. We’re currently only 7/2 on or 4/1 on. Clearly the bookies feel we’re a lot better off than before the mackem result because they’ve slashed our odds on! 😉 they use every mathematical formulae available to them and say we’re better off. Who’d have thought that eh? When so many on here insist we’re worse off. 🙂

  • 72 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:14 PM

    I’m glad all the arguing has abated there s no point in it at this stage.

  • 73 toon kk // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    Best advice is to enjoy our last three games as a premier league club and get ready for us been an established mid tabled championship club. Tbf we are in 19th place for a reason, the worst three teams go down and we’re one of them.

  • 74 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    I think we need to win all three games to be honest, and even then that might not be enough.

  • 75 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    Mostly it comes down to waiting for the last 3 matches now. A win on the weekend and we’re still in it and on to the next one. I do see a huge change in our players though. They are working much harder than with McLaren and Rafa has cobbled together a decent starting 11 who fight for each other on the pitch. All hail Rafa!!!

  • 76 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    Toon kk you’re being negative there :p

  • 77 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    Tuff, you’re right, it is a tragedy we’re relying on others, but teams generally are in the run in. We all know where the blame lies though and i can’t see heads not rolling, but lets leave that for the end of season inquest. Start building the gallows though. 🙂 The promise of what might lie ahead if we stay up is mouth watering. Rafa in charge. Money to spend and a decent bunch of young players. He’ll mould them into his team and bring in others. The prospect of failure is horrifying. Not worth even contemplating until it happens – if it happens, that is.

  • 78 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Bobby,
    Just let it go ffs. Our odds have dropped because we gained two points against M City and Lpool, not because the mackems drew instead of losing. We’d have even shorter ofds if they’d lost.

  • 79 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    The one thing Charnley has done right for the club is to hire Rafa. Now please leave Lee. Your services are no longer required.

  • 80 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    And the odds will change again next weekend if we win and Sunderland loses. That’s the nature of the betting game.

  • 81 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    I hope when Pardew arrives at SJP on Saturday that someone takes the opportunity to bescumber him

  • 82 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    G2
    Say something Sage-like

  • 83 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Betty
    Do you remeber that farmer years ago that bescumbered NatWest Bank on Dean Street ?

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Belfast,
    We most definitely need to win all three. That smary cnut relegating us and reaching a final would be too much.

  • 85 Average_Contents // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    Hibbit

    Quick question.

    If you’ve read the exchanges from last night, can you please explain how expecting the team to get relegated but hoping we don’t and still supporting rafa and the team constitutes being a plastic fan?

    Basically that’s what it boiled down to in the end.

    The two are not mutually exclusive as pointed out by blackley earlier.

    Genuine question.

    I want us to stay up and I’m praying we do but I think we’ll get relegated unfortunately as the required changes weren’t forthcoming when needed.

    Realistic is what I’d call it. Not being a plastic fan.

  • 86 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Sorry – Mosley Street

  • 87 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:34 PM

    Jail wtf. Before the weekends game we were 17/1on. We’re now only 4/1 on. That should tell even you they see us as better off. Just because you believe it so, doesn’t make it so marra. The bookies seldom get short prices wrong. The facts are there. If you wish to ignore them, fine, no skin off my nose. Everybody’s wrong but you eh? Then again, i’m still waiting for your apology for accusing me of bringing shame on the club and single handedly almost killing off football. Go on. Say it. You were wrong and actually know zilch about my activities in the seventies/ eighties. Which is actually the truth. You do realise that libel is still an option on blogs, despite anonymity, don’t you? Not that i would ever do anything, but your mouth will one day get you into trouble. It probably already has, truth be known.

  • 88 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    Average

    As someone who was caught up in the row yesterday without wanting to be, I would say that you are not being a ‘plastic’ fan, but a ‘realistic’ one. Just like you could argue that to be anything different would be deluding yourself. That’s me just looking at all angles by the way, and not passing judgement, before I get accused of insulting the die hards among us.

  • 89 toon kk // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    andrew
    At least I’m not building myself up for a massive disappointment like so many.
    Miracles can happen, but it’s to late we’ve run out of games and it’s out of our hands even if we win.

  • 90 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:40 PM

    Toon kk

    I share your viewpoint, I was just being a tad mischievous after last night’s “lively debate”.

  • 91 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:40 PM

    Belfast @74 – so you’re saying if we win all three games we might still have to win one more just to be sure? Hmmmmm.

  • 92 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Jib, have you noticed how the same posters come up at the same time? You don’t think they’re multiples do you? Lmfao! Don’t bust a blood vessel kiddies, all good fun really. Only kidding.

    Average (very ). Last night water under the bridge kidda. Raised passions etc. Let it drop eh? I have.

  • 93 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    We haven’t run out of games ’til we’ve run out of games toon kk mate. We have 3 left. If we win all three or get 2 wins and a draw I would think we’ll be in there with a chance. It’s not like Norwich and Sunderland are world beaters or anything.

  • 94 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Jib…….Yes I do. Well done for getting the meaning. It’s a really old word that, not sure if it’s even in the dictionary. I was going to give a clue that it’s something that Welshie does as part of his foreplay ritual.

  • 95 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Bobby,
    The odds shortened after the mackems drew. They would have shortened further if they had lost. I did not accuse you of single handedly nearly ruinng the sport.

  • 96 Bambams // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    There seems to be so much bickering on this blog lately. ….

    Anyway regardless if you are a super fan, loyal fan, fickle fan or part time fan….We are all fans.

    I still think there is a twist to come and if we can get two wins and a draw I think we will stay up.

    Yes the mackems are doing well and we need them to drop points…but I still think it will go to the last game of the season.

    Football is a funny old game

    Imo

  • 97 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    Tsunki@91. Pure quality.

  • 98 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    I agree that battle should commence after the season ends on 15th May.
    If the club announces quickly that Rafa is staying -should this be a get out clause for Penfold, Carr and Moncur.
    Will a promise of Rafa staying and money to spend stop an grand inquisition as to what has been going on at SJP and who should pay.
    I say no – get answers if possible – although nothing of any detail will be divulged on a voluntary basis.
    Understanding exactly what has happened is important as it hopefully ensures it will not happen again.

  • 99 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    BobbyBee
    I once surmised that some of the posters on here knew each other and texted each other when support was needed – the torrent of abuse I received confirmed my suspicions.

  • 100 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Betty – bescumber indeed. Where did you drag that up from? Very nice. Bit harsh on welshie though marra! 😉

  • 101 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Bobby I’ll have you know I’m no multiple. Not these days 🙂

    Cards , the table, I can’t see us staying up, if not Norwich then the scumdwellers have fire in their bellies and the evil motive to make sure we descend into the bowels of despair.

    Having said that – can you imagine what a glorious, glorious day it would be on the last day of the season to sing a revenge song to Aston Villa after giving them a sound bludgeoning, to wave goodbye to the mackems, and see The King mathematically contrive to supplant us and Norwich for the coveted third spot? It would truly be an epic alignment of the universe, a balance of the order of all things unparalleled in all history etc…. you get the idea…with…that…

    😀

  • 102 toon kk // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    Regarding that ridiculous debate of people being plastic fans, what a stupid argument. How people choose to support a club is entirely up to them, if you want to watch a match pay and watch it otherwise anyone can follow any club, it’s a free country.
    But what is United? It’s about everyone who supports the club wants the best for it.

  • 103 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Bobby….. I learnt it at school and it just stuck. Lol.

  • 104 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    it’s a good thing we can all laugh about it now though, eh?

  • 105 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Jib, makes much sense my friend. 😉 Still very sad if true.

  • 106 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Hi Skunki hows your hands for warts these days?

    Well we could win all 3 games but the mackems could also win 3 games. So it would be impossible for us to catch them.

    Ya get me??

  • 107 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Which jackanapes and lickspittle slugabed has the foppish derring-do to use such antiquated speech?

  • 108 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Bobby

    I’m not saying you were, but if some of that was aimed at me regarding the ‘multiples’ thing, I can assure you I have just the one username on here 🙂

    I work 9-5, as do a lot of people on here, which is probably why a lot of us crop up at the same sort of time.

  • 109 toon kk // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    G2
    I did say miracles can happen mate.
    There’s nothing wrong with hope, but personally I think it’s to late.

  • 110 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    Aye that was the old email cabal Jib.

    In my defence I only joined to be nosey.

  • 111 reilly // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    i think it has more to do with the end of the working day bob.

    i dont think i could take watching spurs lifting the trophy at sjp and us getting relegated.really hope leicester win it before the last game.

  • 112 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    Jail@84……. I couldn’t cope either if the smarmy coccydynia is the one that sends us down.

  • 113 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Not bad Belfast – how’s your a*** for spots?

    Yeah I get you. I have a feeling that it could actually and truly painfully work out that way. So I’m hoping Alan will pull out all the stops to finish on one of his legendary thrash-loss runs he’s so good at.

  • 114 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Personally I get the impression sometimes that Welsh and Jib are the same person but the world is a strange place, apparently there really are 2 like-minded WUMs on the same blog 😉

  • 115 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    Reilly – wow man that I never thought of! Spurs lifting the title trophy at our ground the day they relegate us! Can you imagine what the media could do with that? TV Gold. We’d never live it down.

  • 116 reilly // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    feel sick just thinking about it.not good at all.

  • 117 Average_Contents // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    You’ve let it drop eh big balls.

    Could of fooled me. You’ve been harping all afternoon you fcuking loon lmfco.

    I see you’ve snuggled up with jizz. A match made in heaven.

    Andrew

    Said as much earlier involving your “contribution” lol.

  • 118 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    Everton, Stoke and Watford in the bottom five of the form table 🙁

  • 119 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    Tsunki

    I take comfort in thinking that it’d probably just be like when Blackburn won the league back in 1995, they had the trophy-lifting thing at their own ground the day after the final game of the season.

    Having said that no doubt Sky would love to make an exception since it’s us.

  • 120 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    Ah Jibs conspiracy theory. The League of Emailing Gentlemen. I forgot about that one. It never really existed except in his head though it did sound intriguing.

    Anyway I got sick of all the attachments Belfast used to stick on his. I’m not a fan of Marrow Growers bi-monthly.

  • 121 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    Tsunki, indeed it is. Blazing row one day. Water under the bridge the next. Exactly how it should be. I can see the headlines now marra. They’d then makes us favourites to win the league next season, after Leicester did it. Bit much to live up to. 🙂 Nothing would make me feel better than waving goodbye to villa and the mackems though. Pure heaven really. To see fat heed lose his claim to never being relegated. That said, he has took decent sides pretty close in the past, so you never know. Rafa would be a legend without winning anything. Only in Newcastle could that happen lmao!

    Come on jail, you know you called me a football hooligan without one shred of evidence. I did apologise to you remember, for my mistaken identity faux pas. Still you know what they say about the better man and all that. 🙂

  • 122 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    Tsunki, you have to take anything Jib says with a pinch of salt. The relatively useful stuff has been pulled directly from Google Translate or Wikipedia, the rest is just noise 😉

  • 123 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    Belfast…… I remember I had an Irish pal when I was a kid. He once asked me if he could guess how many sweets I had in my pocket, could he have one. I replied if he guessed right he could have both of them. Can you believe he said 3.

  • 124 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    Andrew you know for a fact sky would pull all their contractual strings to insist the trophy gets carted round sjp with all our players dragging their arms on the grass in the background. Like they’re dancing on our graves. Complete with live cuts to the stadium of blight for a panning vista of guffawing thick – browed cro-magnons celebrating our humiliation. Ugh.

  • 125 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    My arse is spot free at the moment thanks. Yeah it’s quite possible that the mackems could pick up 3 wins from those fixtures.

  • 126 scout // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:15 PM

    Belfast.
    Ill have a bet with you Sunderland dont win them 3.

  • 127 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    (Very) This is just what passes as good natured banter on here. I team up with nobody, i always have been my own man. The odd bit of banter with jib must worry you for some reason? Who knows? It’s just sad people can’t grip the notion we’re actually better off when even the bookies say its so. Not to worry, you simply can’t educate those who refuse to listen. No hard feelings though, it doesn’t matter that much in the cold light of day. I know what i know, you think you know. No big deal. 😉

  • 128 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Jib@99

    There are at least 2 posters who correspond off Blog – Ibiza confirmed as much in posting BandB’s “temporary” farewell some days ago. He gave out (one of) his email address(es) on here in pushing last year’s gathering in the park so it is out there for those who wish(ed) to contact him. Just saying.

  • 129 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    Bobby,
    You pointed out that you fought at matches as though it was some kind of badge of honour. I ponted out that your generation who done so nearly ruined the game. The FA and Police never started putting people in cages until mindless thugs decided to use football stadiums as a battleground.

  • 130 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    On the stars aligning on last day- it has happened at least once before.

    In 1996/97 going into last game we were out of CL spot ( top 2 only qualified then) and neither Boro or Mackems were in relegation spots – come 5:50 and on coming out of ground those with radios (no smart phones then) confirmed we had finished 2cnd on goal difference and Boro and Mackems were both down. Can’t think why I remembered that 🙂

  • 131 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:26 PM

    The setup of off blog contact was done on here and the reasons for it were / are quite clear.

    It’s never been hidden, nor denied.

    Some scoop you got there. Some fans wanted to try and organise themselves in to doing something…or to be able to gang up on Jib. Yeah, that’ll be it.

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  • 132 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    Jib to be fair even before the question of posters knowing each other -you got plently of abuse and deservedly so – goes back to your “Jeff” days if I recall correctly.

  • 133 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:30 PM

    Jail, got to say, the form table doesn’t read too good for us. That said both watford and everton have been pre occupied with the semi finals which – as it does – seems to definitely effect some teams. With that gone they might play with some freedom. With Watford’s gaffer coming in for some – unfair imo – criticism, the players might fight for his job. They’re all happy with him and might have a point to prove. We can but hope. Everton are a strange one. Good players just not performing. Sound familiar? 😉 i worry more about them than watford tbh. Stoke have took some bad beatings lately and hughes won’t want the season to end like that. Sadly it is what it is and all we can do is win our games.

  • 134 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    Jib – what is your next conspiracy theory – let me Guess – Elvis lives in Glasgow or that you have seen David Ickes’ lizard men.

  • 135 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    Hey I’m on that list. I was absolutely convinced I never threw my lot in with that crew / mob / cabal / gathering / throng / rabble / clan……

    Ibiza how come I wasnt cc’d on that? Did you take me out of the ‘Cabal’ message gang? How dare you?!?!?

  • 136 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:38 PM

    it’s not good for us to rely on teams with bad form, low morale and nothing particularly to play for. As well as us having to upset our form record and go and win all our games. 🙁

  • 137 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    When palace wins the fa cup, Mr P down at selhurst park should be manager of the year, didn’t he win that here, yeah i think he did.

  • 138 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    Tsunki…Did the carrier pigeon not arrive?

    TBF, it might have gone to that other chap, whose name escapes me at the minute.

    It went to everyone on the blog, except Jib, for obvious reason.

  • 139 Average_Contents // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Tsunki

    You were on it twice lol. Naughty.

  • 140 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Bobbybee
    You see how dense they are 😀
    I mention them texting and Mr Tuff jumps out of the woodwork —- Ha ha ha

  • 141 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Our form and morale is on the up, which is what has given me some hope with this run in.

    It was always “still possible”, but it was hard to see where the turnaround would come from.

    What people think might happen this season is up there with the most ridiculous things to fall out over.

    For instance, Tsunki, when are you going to finish fitting this kitchen?

  • 142 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    Jfa

    I also attended some away matches in 70’s and have never in my life sought out trouble at football or otherwise but it could easily find you. It was something that went with going to football. I am sure likes of Hibbit, B&B and Munster to name a few could recount their experiences

    I have been on coach at Ellend Road after 1-1 draw ( when Leeds were top side) and had windows put out, been chased around Wembley tube in 1974 ( Liverpool final) by WHU fans !! go figure and had other scary moments as all away fans could probably confirm then. Having said that had a great night in London with some ‘Pool fans after FA cup final match with a singsong and consolation drinks from them whilst drowning our sorrows

    Bobby is also right about treatment of fans by Police as you were 2cnd class citizens back then. I personally witnessed a fan at the front of a group of chanting NUFC fans approaching Ayresome Park being trailed by a Paddy Wagon the rear doors burst open and a few coppers jumped out grabbed the guy at the front from behind and pushed his head into a garden hedge and as he reacted twisted arms up his back and threw him in van. I stopped on other side of the road and shouted ” he hasn’t done anything” and was politely asked by coppers did I want to join him. I was pulled away by my brother and a mate (Boro fan).

    Yes a minority of fans from all sides spent their time looking for scraps but it was very easy at away games to be caught up in trouble. I never wore a scarf ( no replica shirts then) or any black and white for that reason.

    Have also seen appalling behaviour around Newcastle by Toon fans as well. Doesn’t mean that all fans were hooligans or condoned them by attending.

  • 143 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    By the way
    When did Northern Ireland get email ?
    They don’t even have electricity !

  • 144 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Jib – not as dense as you in the following scenario.
    A few months back.
    Some quick fire questions and posts from various parties including Jib and Jane.
    Jane is asked a question and Jib replies. Duh!!!

  • 145 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Jib

    Hate to say it fella but Mr Tuff ‘came out of the woodwork’ a minute before you posted your comment about that texting conspiracy theory of yours 🙂

  • 146 toon22 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Nicklas Bendtner has just been released by Wolfsburg and is out of contract.
    Worth a punt for 3 games ???

  • 147 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Welshie….. You’re there again with your wumming. Don’t be surprised if you get some serious abuse now. It’ll be nothing less than you deserve.

  • 148 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:56 PM

    Mister Tuff….. Do you have any more pictures of Welshies activities to share with the group?

  • 149 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    Average @139 ha ha ha you’re right he he that was naughty. I declare that list fraudulent! Null and void! You must all go to the spurs game! Not this one, that one!

  • 150 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:58 PM

    Welsh going on about Pards again…..to be fair it’s been 3 hours.

  • 151 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    BettyBollocks

    What was wrong with that comment, he was our former manager after all, remember what i said earlier, they are just words, don’t have to read my comments either.

  • 152 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Ibiza – oh. CARRIER pigeon, you say? I suppose I should have checked for a message before cooking it. I’ll know next time though.

  • 153 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Welsh – top notch put down there. True genius.

    You also don’t have to post. That in fact would be a proactive thing for you to do.

  • 154 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    I have some other positive activities for you if you’re interested, ones that will divert you from posting. Or pretty much doing anything except lying face down and still for long periods.

  • 155 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    I will say what i like, wish some get a sense of humour.

  • 156 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Ibiza@131

    “Some scoop you got there”

    who me? nah it was in the public domain.

    Like Jib I have thought that there are some posters who know each other or have contact off Blog – your posting some days ago confirmed that thought – just saying as there is no law against it. Oh and I never suggested ( or even think) that off Blog contact galvanises any posts against Jib.

    Glad to give you the chance to reprise the protest anyway.

  • 157 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Jib – Re Andrew @ 145 – oh dear. You must be into four figures by now surely? 🙂

  • 158 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    Right we’ve got to come down hard on this illegal “Off-Blog” fraternisation! Time to break the ranks of the fifth column on here! Fess up you scoundrels and have at ye!

  • 159 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    Tsunki….They’re just like fortune cookies, read the message and then eat them.

  • 160 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Welsh it’s not a sense of humour we need it’s an Eject Button.

  • 161 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    magscar,
    I’m old enough to remember it and it was a terrible time for football.

  • 162 ArchieDog // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:13 PM

    http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2016/04/match-review-liverpool-2-newcastle-united-2/#.Vx3ElEbkR5Q.twitter

    An excellent read and insight into Liverpool fans view of Benitez

  • 163 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Magscar…It wasn’t aimed at anyone in particular, but the topic in general. It was sarcasm, as you and I have both pointed out, the information was there for all to see.

    Hardly some covert texting operation, as Jib seems to want to believe.

  • 164 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Jfa

    It was certainly a terrible time for genuine fans as opposed to the “boot boys”.

  • 165 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    i see yesterday we have another trialist in

    is this the club doing its normal thing or is it led by rafa

  • 166 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Ah I see Ibiza. But the kids take a dim view of you cracking them in half and rummaging around their innards. Not to mention the RSPB. And the Pigeon Racing Combine beside the Working Mens Club in Kibblesworth. If there’s one there.

  • 167 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    Ibiza

    Ok

  • 168 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Tsunki

    Off blog fraternisation is to be commended !

    For gawds sake it even enabled Mr Tuff to quote Shakespeare !

    Even multi-identities have their uses.

    I have it on good authority that Blackley was allowed to be Andrew because no bugger was talking to Blackley – ha ha ha .

  • 169 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Can you imagine the effort saved of having to ignore welshies posts if he just stopped writing them.

  • 170 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Jail, My remark to munster about fighting side by side was a good humoured throwaway comment. Please don’t believe the gutter press, who have for decades had people believe liverpool fans robbed the dead and pissed on corpses ffs. An outrageous lie that has now been admitted. The verdict on hillsborough Is due tomorrow and will hopefully return an unlawful killing verdict. Look how long they’ve covered up those horendous lies. Relying on the press for information is dangerous ground. As others have pointed out, sometimes you had to fight to survive regardless of who you were. Did i ever get involved? We all did ffs, but not usually from choice. Let me catagorically state that i was not a football hooligan and still aren’t one. (Wheelchair ultras rule ok) 🙂 For you to jump to that conclusion was so far off the mark and downright libelous. Luckily i don’t do litigation so the blog and jail are safe from me 😉 So, having read this, I hope you can be man enough to apologise, as i did for my mistaken id faux pas. It really is painless and can be cathartic to the soul. 😉

  • 171 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Whatever Tsunki, anyway are we all supporting West Brom tonight.

  • 172 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    Welshie…… I like your approach, now show us your departure.

  • 173 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    Jail

    You soon miss me if i left.

  • 174 reilly // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:20 PM

    is west brom your 3rd team welsh. 😆

  • 175 Back Door Man // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:20 PM

    My goodness,  the blog was heaving last night like some washed-up whale on Newbiggin beach, all bloated and full of foul smelling hot air.  At each page scroll somebody was conducting smears like a puffy-faced quack gynecologist and it didn’t matter that some posters attempted to dress up this scourge of nuisance posts in dickie bow ties and cumberbands.  I just loved it!!!!

    In reality it was a sort of oral porphyria … the other more insidious form of intimidation increasingly witnesed here, it has echoes of all those ancient offensive tropes that get wheeled-out from time to time:  my knob’s bigger than yours (translated … I/you go to more/fewer matches than you/me).

    Seriously, some here should tweak their own algorithms to avoid generating so much bullshit about how high up the wall they can piss.

  • 176 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Why would i leave, I’ve got the same right as everyone on here.

  • 177 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Welshie

    I think they will need all the support they can get but it won’t matter 🙂

    Didn’t want Leicester to win it a few weeks ago but how things can change!

  • 178 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    Tsunki…What exactly are you suggesting here?

    “But the kids take a dim view of you cracking them in half and rummaging around their innards”

  • 179 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    BDM

    I can’t pee that high.

  • 180 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    What’s happened to bandb then ?

    Scout I wouldn’t bet on them winning 3 games but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. Three of those teams are in terrible form at the moment.

  • 181 Jib // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    I love a guy who uses a word like porphyria and cannot spell witnessed.
    😀

  • 182 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    I’m not sure whether I should be flattered that I’ve been tagged as an imposter created by Blackley himself 🙂

    If you look far back enough, you’ll see dialogue between me and Blackley going back to 2013. And genuine dialogue by the way – I didn’t accidentally answer questions asked to him like Jib did with his other half Jane 😉

  • 183 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    Magscar…Why didnt you want Leicester to win it before? I guess now you do, asap, to try and give us a tamer Spurs, but interested to know why you didn’t want them to get it regardless.

    You weren’t still holding out hope that we could win it, were you?

  • 184 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    Bobby,
    I have apologised to people in the past but don’t feel I owe you one, you were ranting last night and I felt you tried to glamorise fighting on the terraces. I’m glad to hear you weren’t a soccer thug.

  • 185 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    Beermonkey@165

    I suspect Rafa’s influence at work – preparing us for next season (where ever that may be!) . Please let him stay

  • 186 andrew84 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    “Conducting smears like a puffy-faced quack gynaecologist”.

    Nice image.

  • 187 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    Archiedog – a good read all right and the comments were fascinating too. Seems we are not universally reviled and ridiculed after all. 😐

  • 188 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    Now, if you want an example of someone who uses email contact to try and out a blog poster….

    Belfast…How’s things?

  • 189 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    Welshie, i can pee higher. 🙂

  • 190 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    Jib @181 – nearly as much as a guy who posts in multiple languages then in his native one types ” remeber”?

    😀

    You are fantastic value I have to say. The gift that just keeps on giving.

  • 191 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Reilly @174 no mate it’s his joint first.

  • 192 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Ibiza

    You got me!

    I just prefer Spurs current approach to football (struggle to call any side with Huth in it as a footballing side) but it is a hard one to call as I also dislike that club. Too much to go into and boring as to why ( probably done enough reminiscing on here)

  • 193 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Yes Belfast he’s a sneaky character. Shifty eyes, and they’re too close together. Small hands too.

  • 194 Back Door Man // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM

    Welshie …. piss flaps perhaps?

    Jiblet …. smartphone’s small keyboard perhaps?

  • 195 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:34 PM

    Huth, when the light catches him right, reminds me of that big monster in Cloverfield.

  • 196 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    magscar

    he seems to have a real love for the game
    i think most managers would have come in on the same deal would just do what they can for the 10 games and take it from there

    rafa seems to have come in and gone this is a football club and this is how we do things

  • 197 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    Who’s in the “Beattie Memorial Garden” atm?

    BandB?
    Jesperfuglsang Captain of the Rotating Lemon Crew?
    The Many Faces of Rob Vollans?

    Seems a few have fallen in battle. Sad really.

  • 198 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    BDM

    How dare you say that, that’s not a nice thing to call jail.

    Ha ha ha

  • 199 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:39 PM

    Picture Caption Game :-

    “Scratch my car and I’ll scratch yo’ a**!”

  • 200 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:39 PM

    Jail, you never fail to live up to my expectations. How does the words ‘we probably fought side by side’ in a laid back kinda way ever translate to glamourising football hooligans? Still, thank you for comfirming everything i thought. I would love to hear from said bloggers who have previously received an apology from you though. They must be so honoured – if they exist. 😉 You were wrong and my explanation has been confirmed by others who were there also. Curiosity now, can you even articulate those words ‘i was wrong’? I have this picture in my mind of Fonzie from happy days saying ‘ i was wrouuungh’ as he repeatedly tried to admit it. Classic comedy. 🙂

  • 201 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:42 PM

    Good Ibiza thanks.

    What’s happened to bandb ? I missed it.

  • 202 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    Only joking jail.

    Ha ha ha

  • 203 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    Beermonkey@196

    yes and that is why he is so refreshing. Am trying hard to prepare for the worst happening after being a real club again for a few weeks.

    As an eternal optimist I am still believing ( come what may) he will lead us next season. Been hurt may times though 🙁

  • 204 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    Oh. I see Belfasts not in that garden then. Never mind. Learn to live with it.

  • 205 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:46 PM

    Mags, eternal optimists IN, IN ,IN!!!! 😉

  • 206 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    Tsunki@197

    I think one of those may still be on the field, banner currently furled – but as I don’t always follow the multiple outings I may be wrong.

  • 207 Belfast // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Rob Vollans has many plots, benches, trees and vases full of ashes in that garden Skunki.

  • 208 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    Magscar… 🙂

    Fair enough. Footballing style / approach reasons then.

    I love the underdog aspect of it. Not sure why.

  • 209 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    Bobby

    As you well know an abundance of unfounded optimism is an almost pre-requirement to be a Newcastle fan.

  • 210 Yo-yo // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    Right… Bobby … 32pts is a total irrelevance. Don’t know why you’ve been banging on about it. 17th after 38 games is all that matters. If we win 3 and get 9 pts I agree with you and think we’ll stay up. Not so sure with 37pts. Our GD is pisspoor and there is a much higher chance of a tie on points – so we’d be 18th. However, two 3-0 wins for us and things will be looking a lot better.

    I don’t think we’re down yet – but if we’d beaten unwashed and canaries we’d almost certainly been okay. They bottled getting rid of the world class coach Tufty for too long.

    Problem is that the unwashed are likely to have much more hunger and might win games they’d have lost earlier in the season as the other sides have not much to play for. Their draw against the Gooners certainly didn’t help us at all. It might give them a bit more confidence which could be very bad for us.

    JIB made a point about Rafa having his man leading on the pitch, hence the try outs with Sissoko as captain. Well it looks as if both Anita and Townsend have bought into his style. I can’t see Anita as captain, but Townsend maybe. I hope Siem will come through, as I can see him filling that role, and he still has a lot to prove for us, and the ability to do it, and leadership to do it. Gini is beginning to look like a stepping stone player, though I’d like him to stay, he is too flaky form-wise.

    Another 3 goal margin in the weekend and we’ll be on a roll but we do need to score first for once.

  • 211 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    magscar

    we dont whats going to happen if he goes but given how the club has been run i think we all fear the worst
    but we know if he stays things will change

    i dont know what rafa wants, he has won alot and is only 55 (i think ) he seems to like the idea of us as a project and maybe likes the idea of being in one place for a while and building a legacy

    i see some mentioning the spain job i dont think he would take it he loves the day to day stuff and might see himself as to young and maybe something for the future
    (maybe wishful thinking)

  • 212 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    Ibiza

    I am also usually an underdog fan but something has been irritating me about Leicester – doesn’t anyone else find Vardy annoying.

  • 213 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    betty – I was most surprised last night that there was no other comment about a certain posters daily (and if true -magnificent) sexploits.
    I thought if a bit fishy and investigated further -didn’t take me long to get to the bottom of it.
    If you bare with me I’ll retrieve the posts for your perusal.

  • 214 Munster Mag // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Jail myself and bobby have probably been on many terraces together but not fighting! And bobby, no way have i thrown the towel in mate. Htl

  • 215 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 7:59 PM

    I love these tablets and their magic buttons. I can turn this into sky sports just like that, and i will shortly. I blame football hooliganism on the lack of this kind of technology. Rival fans would have been too busy chatting shyte to even be bothered to fight. The magic of the internet eh? They could have taken photos of each others skinhead cuts, and applied flowing locks. “Oi, Biffer, look how u look with a hippie hairstyle”. Jovial laughs. ” You taking the piss?” SNOT, Wallop. Mmm, maybe not.

  • 216 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Magscar…The only thing that annoys me about them really, is that it’s not us.

    However, I do know what you mean. He has one of them faces. Still, fair play to him.

    Personally I’m cheering for Leicester all the way. What a story and shows that the “big teams” don’t have it automatically sewn up.

    On footballing merit, I do take on board what you say about Spurs perhaps deserving it.

  • 217 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:04 PM

    Bobby
    I don’t follow your logic. Arsenal was arguably the Mackems toughest fixture. We didn’t want them to get any points from that one. In fact we wanted them to get walloped because of the goal difference. You’re looking at Norwich but it’s Sunderland who are in a better position than them. Whatever happens we have to do better than BOTH Norwich and Sunderland. One point for the Mackems, given the limited number of games left, could be massive, especially with their goal difference. So to me it’s a no brainer that that was one game that we strongly wanted Sunderland to lose. They’ve got more points, a game in hand, a decent run in (better than Norwich) and games are running out fast.

    I don’t see your logic either in fans being realistic about our chances or in slagging off Charnley on this blog for putting us through this torture. It doesn’t stop me going to the games and backing Rafa and the lads 100%. The two are not incompatible.

  • 218 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    Beermonkey

    If we stay up he most likely stays ( unless “it isn’t like it said in the brochure”)

    Go down and amongst many problems there will be the overarching one of can ( and does) Ashley convince him there is still a project worth him staying on for and he will have full backing.

    We stand on the threshold of as big a change at club as when KK was brought in first time around and led us to our best contemporary era.

    I might even be able to stomach Charnley and Carr being kept around as long as they have no interference in running club the Benitez way if that is what it takes to keep finances in balance.

  • 219 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    i read on the blog earlier that carr reccomended mahrez to leicester is this true ans in provable fact
    or blog folklore fact

  • 220 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Time for the spurs game. Yo yo, before i go. 32 points is what we CURRENTLY require to move into 17th place. That will probably change as game progress, but right nowm it’s our immediate target. It’s the same target as it was before the mackems kicked off. Therefore, nothing really changed. Forget sunlun, it’s about 17th place. Only difference being two now have 31 points, not one. And sunlun have one less game in hand. Fortunately many see it, some don’t. God knows why not, it’s as clear as mud. 😉

  • 221 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    Welshie bragging :-

    “welshgeordie9 // Apr 24, 2016 at 8:24 PM
    Jail
    I’m 102, fit as a fiddle, having sex 30 times a day helps at my age.”

    Wow I thought 30 times a day – magnificent – then I thought I’d better investigate further to verify the claim.
    A quick bit of ameteur sleuthing I think revealed the answer – and Welsh was telling the truth. :-

    Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    Wow – some “magnificent” feats of stud performance was mentioned earlier on tonight.
    30 times a night.
    Let’s not dismiss this immediately without further investigation.
    Certainly could be physically possible and you also need “partners”.

    http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/crime/thirty-sheep-stolen-from-farm-near-buxton-1-7511982

  • 222 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    A battling point and a decent performance by the Mackems against a top team can only be good for their confidence. A good stuffing by Arsenal would’ve been great for us. The bookies odds would be much better for us. That’s why, unlike you, I was pished by Arsenal’s poor showing early doors. I don’t think we will avoid the drop but it didn’t stop me kicking every ball for Arsenal.

  • 223 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    magscar

    i would prefer the pair of them to go
    a proper football md to come in and help get the club going in the right direction and getting us to maximise our brand and revenue

    17th richest club and and we are run worse than lush running a pub and rinking all day

    ashley cant be happy with wahts going and not just with the first team but look at the under21s and youth leagues its dire there to

    so we need a proper man in there as well

  • 224 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    Mister Tuff…… Was that when he said he does it 30 times a night? I think Jail commented that his feet must be very muddy. I can’t work him out , I ve met his parents, they’re two really nice blokes.

  • 225 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:17 PM

    Belfast…Sorry, just saw I missed your post. Okay, I admit it, I’m not really sorry.

    BandB is writing elsewhere. She’s had some issues with getting on the blog. I know shes written some pieces for The Mag, I don’t think she considers the blog a huge miss at the minute.

    It is a bit more social club or at times some theatrical performance than Newcastle debate on here it seems.

  • 226 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Mister Tuff……… That must have been him. Too much coincidence there for it not to be.

  • 227 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Wow, I feel sorry for people like tuff who goes back at last nights comments trying to prove some sort point, what a waste of time that was.

    Besides he’s jealous that I’m 102 and still doing it, where as he’s probably haven’t done it all.

    Ha ha ha

  • 228 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Welsh…… Come on now me old son you’re bang to rights there. I suggest you just admit the truth and move on. We’ve all suspected it for a long time as you are aware. Don’t worry this won’t be held against you as we’re not sheepish on here.

  • 229 Back Door Man // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    magscar @212

    Vardy, with his Jimmy Hill chin and his racist outbursts smudged on CCTV whilst gambling. A vile scumbag!

  • 230 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Beermonkey

    As would I but being realistic if we go down there will have to be some financial juggling and those 2 are cheap options. It will be the art of the possible and not even the paying for advertising is going to make up much ground on what we stand to lose at relegation.

    Anyway enough depressing thoughts here’s to winning our last 3 and it being (more!) than enough 🙂

  • 231 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Should have read sheepist not sheepish

  • 232 reilly // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:22 PM

    welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Wow, I feel sorry for people like tuff who goes back at last nights comments trying to prove some sort point, what a waste of time that was.

    Do you include your mate jib in the people you feel sorry for.

  • 233 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:24 PM

    Bettybollocks

    Like i said earlier on, I would be more offended if you come up with something new, but some are so thick, can’t even think of anything.

    Sheep, yawn yawn, boring.

  • 234 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    magscar

    lets hope 9 points gets us what we need
    if ever a group fans deserve some joy its us

  • 235 magscar // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Beermonkey

    Good call to all bloggers

    Am off – cheers all

  • 236 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Welsh….. ..You may well be tired and bored of sheep but how do you think they must feel being used and abused by you and then just discarded because you’ve lost interest.

    It doesn’t seem fair on them and I feel sorry for them as I am an animal lover but obviously not in the way you are.

  • 237 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    If lessons are to have been truly learnt this season, then there can be no reasoning to keep people who are meant to be held accountable for the disaster of this season.

    Surely the lesson people are hoping Ashley has learnt is that you need proper people in at all levels, if you want a successful club. Enough of the trying to make do in certain areas. It’s not good enough and I can’t see a good reason for it.

    The only reason I can see that they would stay, is for completely non-footballing reasons. If that doesn’t set alarms ringing then I don’t know what will.

    Rafa is a huge step in the right direction, alone it’s not enough though.

  • 238 Back Door Man // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    And that (@229) was one of the shortest posts I’ve ever written here, so to make up for it here’s a slightly longer one which I’ve been forced to
    write in response to Jib”s slight about my spelling mistake.

    BDM’s not the blog’s spelling bogeyman but an honest bard – a man of the people;  I sense you all nodding in unison.  Think of me as the Shakespeare of the place (very apt at the moment), or a Chaucer, a Swift, a Bronte,  a Lewis, a Balzac, Beatix Potter, Jeffrey Archer, maybe an Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn or even a McGonagall.  Actually, my money’s on Victoria Wood (and therein lies the clue).  Perhaps I’m not being serious, maybe it’s all joke, a bit of a wheeze, a jolly jape;  mind, it could all be serious and by going after one or two particular knobs there is no chance that the few other idiots here will be let off the hook.

    So, if you don’t want to be targeted keep out of range and avoid BDM’s enfilade fire don’t become a part of that murmuration of Jib and his bag carriers and apologists. 

    Don’t be horrible and mean to little old me.  Even those with a bluebottle’s  powers of recall can picture when this all began: a benign comment posted by me one dark chilly day about the Toon was followed by a wicked, snot covered reply by Jib.  Three requests for an explanation were ignored, I was even seen getting out of an aeroplane waving a piece of paper on which was written a draft peace proposal.  All to no avail … Jib executed my white-flag carrying peace envoy and his tanks crossed the border in an attempt to crush all resistance.

    The brave Maquis, under the outstanding leadership of Monsieur Tuff fought an effective rearguard action until reinforced by BDM’s armoured column.  Hand to hand fighting was commonplace in the blog’s Bocage but with superior firepower and better ammunition the Forces of Good were able to weaken the ragbag remnants of Jib’s Army Group West.  Oberleutnant von Jib and his foul group of batmen have been reported stealing ammunition from the ammo dump located near the village of Throbnet, however, much of it was discovered to be dud.

    A communication from Allied High Command has suggested hostilities will end after the final battle scheduled at the Spursridge salient.  However, only an unconditional surrender followed by a fair a show trial for the guilty Jib will ensure an enduring peace in our time.

  • 239 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    BDM

    Have you been drinking.

  • 240 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    A little song to sing at the match:
    We’ve got Rafa, we’ve got Rafa
    What have you got?
    What have you got?
    Not a lot. Not a lot!

  • 241 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    Spot on @237 Ibiza mate. True words of wisdom from the Official Assistant Sage Blog. There will be a little extra in the pay packet for you. I’ve included a small package of your favourite snuff….

  • 242 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    ibiza

    if ashley wants to keep dumb and dumber carr and charnley ok
    but neither can do what they have neen

    ashley has to bring in a proper md
    if its true and none of our new buys have any relegation clauses given the fact we have flirted with relegation for the last few years is disgusting
    and carr well just look at the cash wasted

    we need a i wanna say dof but some1 to work with the manager and chief scout to get and identify the players not just for the first team but the others as well

    carr and charley have proved there not up to it if he keeps them he has bring people in above them

  • 243 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    Welshie…… The point I was making earlier was that sheep have feelings too and you seem to be ignoring that. Can I just ask you what you did with those thirty sheep that you stole after you shagged them. Answer truthfully and we’ll leave the matter alone.

  • 244 Mister Tuff // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    Hahahaha – Jib will be doing some Google searches trying to find out who Beatrix Potter plays for.

  • 245 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:53 PM

    Does snuff make you sneeze Ibiza mate? First I sneeze and then I wheeze. And then I look for a bit of cheese….

  • 246 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Oh and another thing Ibiza. You can tell jesper I still haven’t forgiven him for not coming on here anymore….Harrumph!

  • 247 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    We will get the joy beermonkey mate. Worry not. As Official Blog Sage I’ve already seen the tea leaves, cast the chicken bones and consulted a number of fine physics….They all tell me the same. Black and White to stay up. Canaries and Mackems are Doooooomed!!!!

  • 248 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    Half time and spurs ahead 1-0, thanks to the defender laningd on the ball, causing it to shoot from his belly! Somehow it squeezed between the keepers legs and over the line. Very Shakespeare – a comedy off errors. Expect to view on next chrimbo’s bloopers. 😉

  • 249 welshgeordie9 // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    GeordieTwo

    That song is not really intimidating, might as well sing agadoo or ymca.

    Ha ha ha

  • 250 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    Beermonkey…Obviously it all depends on how much is really down to them. Could Carr be, for all avoidance of doubt, just made a scout? Part of a team even, with Rafa putting his setup in play with that? Sure, that could be explored.

    Unless he’s been calling the shots, as some suggest. If that’s so, I’m not sure you can have the old guard interfering with new people and their “new vision” which is what we’re talking about here.

    A re-hash of a failed idea, just with a good manager, fills me with long term dread. If we upgraded each area of the club like we have done with the manager (whether by choice or luck). The evidence is there, staring at him in the face. If he doesn’t take this opportunity I don’t know what hope there is.

    Rafa fills me with lots of hope. He’s the kind of character who is capable of great things.

    G2…Thanks, boss.

  • 251 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    Lessons will be learned. I’m learning them for Ashley. Then I transfer them to some rather nasty looking sandpaper and force them up all his orifices after the season ends. It’s a well known cure for stupidity over here in the colonies…..

  • 252 Bobbybee // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:00 PM

    Laningd? Htf does that even happen? Landing of course. Will the blog police send me to the naughty chair now? The utter shame.

  • 253 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    Your welcome Ibiza. Harrumph. But don’t forget to tell jesper I haven’t forgiven him. Come up with your own little ditty welshie and I’ll give it a listen…..

  • 254 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    You will be laningd and then fonged thoroughly Bobbybee…..

  • 255 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    Beermonkey…I didn’t even mention Penfold! I would worry why he’s still around the place. What he would be handling, getting in the way of.

    G2…That’s a bit personal, no?

    I will pass that on to Jesper though. Harrumph and all.

  • 256 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    BDM…….. How very dare you suggest that General Jib is anything other than an honourable gentleman and an all round damn good egg.

    Your blistering , vehement attack on him the other evening was excessive to say the least and left us all shocked and stunned . How could a long standing blog member and peer of the realm be subjected to such an unwarranted assault on his character leaves me flabbergasted. I suggest that you young whippersnapper find an apology for our head of research and in future treat him with the respect befitting a valued member of this ere blog.

  • 257 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    Ta Ibiza. And I have sent the Sand Flea powder for your beach thong problems. Only 7 euros. I’m now growing a Rafa tache as well. I love the look with a nice trilby.

  • 258 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    It’s good to see we’re all pulling in the same direction now. We’re riding a wave of good form, we’ve got a great manager, and a lovely team to lash on the weekend…. Life is brilliant right now.

  • 259 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM

    I’m saving a good laninging for Charnley and Carr at the end of the season as well……

  • 260 beermonkey // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    ibiza

    for me
    just to get rid of the stench of negativity around the club if rafa stays
    get rid of the lot and start again

    it all depends on how our owner see’s it

  • 261 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    Ibiza……. If you are in touch with Jesper please tell him that he’s being missed badly . Jail has apologised if he was the reason he quit and life is too short to bear grudges.

  • 262 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    G2…That’s something to look forward to!

    Beermonkey…Ah yes, I do wonder how the view is from Shirebrook.

    Completely agree. Allow Rafa to do his thing properly, with help from people who actually know how to. Clearly that isn’t Ashley or the people he typically picks.

    It’s a big if though. Not sure I can see him letting them all go, based on previous. But then again, this is to be a new day 🙂

  • 263 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    I’ll not beg Ibiza mate. Tell jesper he can come back if he feels like it. Not that we care or anything…..Harrumph….

  • 264 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    The view from the Shire is excellent Ibiza mate. I’ve got my pipe out and my slippers on. Having a nice tasty bit of sharp Cheddar with a lovely ale we make over here right now……

  • 265 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:26 PM

    Betty…I will pass that on. I don’t think he bears any grudges (Well, not too many anyway), just came to a similar conclusion that life is indeed too short and that perhaps there were more important things he could be doing, other than blogging.

  • 266 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    G2…As The Temptations said

    “Ain’t too proud to beg, you know it sweet darlin’
    Please don’t leave me girl, don’t you go”

    Enjoy the Cheddar. I’m off

  • 267 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Nice equalizer by West Brom.

  • 268 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Ibiza……… Perhaps you could suggest that he drops by from time to time for a chat. Doesn’t need to commit to anything. Thanks.

  • 269 Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM

    betty…To be clear, no long term commitment?

    I’m not sure he’ll go for that either. The not knowing what tomorrow might bring.

    I’ll get his people to maybe contact your people.

  • 270 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Well that’s just lovely isn’t it? Is jesper saying we’re wasting wor time on here? I mean….. what kind of attitude is that to wasting time? Life is too short to spend it slaving away and not enjoying the important things. Footy for example. I’m VERY DISAPPOINTED Jesper mate!

  • 271 Yo-yo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Oh no, Beattie’s back as BDM !

  • 272 GeordieTwo // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    No, no that just won’t do bettyswallocks mate @268. We want a firm commitment. I would like to see jesper sign an 8 year contract with a minimum number of appearances per week. That sort of thing…..Harrumph!

  • 273 jimmysmith // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    Come on you Brummies!!!!! Nick another. Spurs are fading.

  • 274 bettyswallocks // Apr 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    G2. and Ibiza…….. We ll obviously have to give our assurances that there will be no mention of any circular movement of any description.

  • 275 Moonraker15 // Apr 25, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    B&B
    The Mackems are not winning games apart from Norwich 1 win in 12 and that’s them on a roll! We are in a good position to win our last 3 games which should keep us up. The Spurs players know they can’t win the league now and by the time they play us they will only be thinking of the Euros. We have to win these games; Palace waiting for cup final, Villa dead and Spurs totally demoralised! Howay the lads!

  • 276 ascot7 // Apr 26, 2016 at 12:44 AM

    Be nit
    Has to drill the players, what are they doing in bed ? They have to keep off the nest for survival, kick their wifes /lovers out of the room and concentrate on a good night’s sleep.




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