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That’s A Big Bear We’ve Got To Fight In That Pit!

9:36 am, Friday, April 29th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 67 Comments

Alan Pardew will know all about the atmosphere at St. James Park when the stadium is chock full of over 52,000 mad screaming Geordies and when he comes back to Toon tomorrow we expect Palace to be a hard side to beat.

But it is also a game we should be winning given our improved form over the last three games,  following our pathetic capitulation at St, Mary´s Stadium almost three weeks ago.

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Alan Pardew at Crystal Palace last year

Palace hammered us 5-1 last year in the league – another one of Newcastle´s pitiful and catastrophic displays under the woeful Steve McClaren.

This is what Pardew thought about that game:

“That was a night that everything went in for us. It was never a 5-1 game.” “But we got goals at the right times.” “The result didn’t really replicate the game.”

“The Newcastle fans want to see their team play with heart and spirit.” “The atmosphere will be red-hot. It’s a tough ask to try and win there.”

“The atmosphere will be red-hot and it’s a tough ask to try to win there. “At the moment it’s going well for Newcastle. That’s a big bear we’ve got to fight in that pit!”

“We’re still not mathematically safe and that’s the task at hand.”

The next two games are winnable games against Palace at home and Aston Villa away.

If we can beat those two sides it will set up a do-or-die final home game against Tottenham Hotspur, where a win would probably be enough to save us this season.

If that happens that would be the second successive season we will have avoided the drop on the final day.

Here´s hoping for that.

Comments welcome.



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67 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    ..aaaaannddd there he is again.

  • 2 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    To be fair it was a 5 – 1 victory Palace absolutely destroyed us and went for the kill! If only Pardew had sent his Newcastle teams out to do that against teams at St James’s who were there for the taking rather than parking the bus at home!!

  • 3 Tsunki // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    Next article we can have a photo of Alan at home relaxing in his CP onesie watching Ant & Dec’s takeaway, eating somebody elses dinner.

  • 4 Tsunki // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    Yeah I’m not sure how we got a goal.

  • 5 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    He’s taken comparatively little Crystal Palace to an FA Cup final, and I’d love to see them win it. Who wouldn’t when the opposition is a senior club. If he’d been given more say in transfers at Newcastle, it could easily have been us. Instead of out at the first hurdle, year in, year out, and battling relegation.

  • 6 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    He’ll get booed by a percentage of the crowd, I suppose. The majority will be more gracious, I imagine.

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    jimmy,
    But he wasn’t and he quite happily fielded weakened teams every January knowing that it was not club policy to try to win a cup. An absolutely disgraceful stance and way to run a football club.

  • 8 martoon // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    hibbitt from last topic – I presume you mean WHY should Pardew deserve any respect. Maybe I’m old school but I just think booing an ex-toon manager is disrespectful. Yes he has some records not to be proud of but he also did some good things as well working under difficult constraints.

  • 9 lesh // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    Jib

    I reckon the FA ought to kick the impose a 15 point deduction on the Mackems plus another 60 carried into the Championship.

    That sounds reasonable don’t you think?

  • 10 lesh // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:06 AM

    Looks like Parwho’s joined Sam in playing mind games. I’m confident that Rafa’s up to it though and won’t get involved in any of it.

  • 11 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    Mmm
    Blog killed by someone mocking the administrator for posting articles on the manager of the team we play tomorrow at SJP !
    How very he dare he !

  • 12 lesh // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Martoon

    Apart from owt else, booing Pardew could just fire the Palace players up enough to play for their manager.

    Polite applause would be appropriate

  • 13 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Lesh
    Sounds like a plan 😀

  • 14 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    Yeah, but it wasn’t ever really his squad, and it was often ludicrously unbalanced because of Ashley’s wrongheaded approach. The biggest criticism I think you could make of Pardew is that he didn’t front the owner for his folly, the way Rafa did at Liverpool for example. Other than that, he seemed on balance a legit enough EPL manager to me.

  • 15 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    should have read
    Ed – how very dare he

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Totally agree there jimmy and it was totally wrong how he wasn’t backed after that double manager of the year.

  • 17 hibbitt // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    jimmysmith / martoon

    pardue was happy to do his masters bidding he has no respect for this club or the fans of this club he was only interested in ashleys money

    jimmy i take it you haven’t been to a game in along time even the moderates never shed a tear when he jumped ship

  • 18 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    I see old allardyc’e less than subtle mind games have started.

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    lesh

    polite applause….. really!! Total ignorance would be the best. his ego wouldn’t like that.

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    martoon

    isn’t head butting a player and calling pellegrini a f—– old c— disrespectful

  • 21 hibbitt // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    the best way to put pardue down is beat palace then give him shit at the end of the game

  • 22 BandB // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    I think a non-stop chorus of “Rafa Benitez!” would send the right message to all concerned.

  • 23 hibbitt // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    Rotonda heights
    spot on
    the man’s a foul mouthed womanising thug with no respect for this club or its fans

  • 24 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Jail…….. Regarding you being accused of hypocrisy by Ruddy. The fact that you and others on this blog have put their hatred of Ashley on hold whilst we are fighting this relegation battle does not in any way mean that you have become a turncoat or scab as Mr. Militant would no doubt prefer to label you.

    Ruddy’s hatred of Ashley will never allow him to believe that under the current ownership we are even worth supporting as a club. In other words he hates Ashley more than he loves the club. He made this very clear last night , but to come blustering on here waving his Ashley out banner like a Scargill mk.2 , at a time when the blog seems to be unified in our fight to stay in the PL isn’t helpful .Trying to bully bloggers into a guilt trip is indicative of his aggressive agenda which he expects others to comply with.

    Hopefully Rafa will stay and help to sort our club out from top to bottom .
    The
    time for inquests and recriminations is at the end of the season not now. My advice is keep the faith , go to the match, support the team and pray we stay up. Ignore Ian Paisley and follow your own agenda. HWTL.

  • 25 BandB // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    It’s time to put Pardew to bed.
    I imagine he’d like that.

  • 26 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Bescunder him. That’s what I say.

  • 27 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    The time to put Pardew to bed is about 15.50 tomorrow hopefully.

  • 28 hibbitt // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    bettyswallocks

    very good advice for all not just jail

  • 29 martoon // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    Rotonda heights @20 – Agreed, yes it was disgraceful but two wrongs don’t make a right. I’m not trying to tell anybody else what they should do or think, I’m just saying, personally, I won’t boo him because he is an ex-toon manager.

  • 30 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    Martoon…… I assume we can’t count on you to help with the bescundering operation then. Lol.

  • 31 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    We know Benitez is the better manager, but even he is cutting his cloth at Newcastle, and it hasn’t been scintillating stuff, nor is it ever likely to be. Pardew has shown at Palace he likes to play attacking football given the players. He was someway down the list of villains at Newcastle in his time with the club, as far as I can tell. But ok. I agree, now is not the time and place. it’s water under the bridge, apart from the fact that Charnley, Carr and Ashley are still here.

  • 32 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    band B

    Yes it’s great hearing the crowd chant rafa benitez.
    Pretty sure never heard them chant for AP, JC or SM.

  • 33 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    HEAD TO HEAD
    ———-NcleDrawsPalace
    League 17 6 8
    FA Cup 5 0 1
    Lge Cup 1 0 0
    Total 23 6 9

    STATS
    Newcastle striker Papiss Cisse has scored in all three of his Premier League matches against Palace.

    Emmanuel Adebayor has scored six goals and assisted six more in his last nine league games against Newcastle United. He jointly holds the Premier League record for most assists in a single game (four for Spurs v Newcastle; February 2012).

    The Magpies have won more points in their last three Premier League games (5) than they did in their previous 10 (4).

    Newcastle are unbeaten in their last three games (W1 D2 L0) and they haven’t gone four games unbeaten in the Premier League since Alan Pardew’s tenure (six games in Oct-Nov 2014).

    The Eagles haven’t won a Premier League away game since December 19th 2015; they have picked up just five points in nine road trips since (W0 D5 L4).

  • 34 BandB // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    Rotonda.

    Exactly!

  • 35 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    jimmy

    I don’t know if you are aware that CP are in 16th and technically not still safe!!!!!
    This all with the likes of Bolasie, Cabaye, Zaha, Puncheon etc.

    Every now and again AP has a brief love-in with a 433 which worked for us twice in 4 seasons and earlier this season for CP, before he abandons it for the usual dour, ultra defensve hoofball and can we nick 1 mentality.

    From fleeting top 4 to bottom 4 in the blink of an eye, with the as always no plan B.

  • 36 ToonToon // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    Pardew will probably park the bus here to scrape a point. We know that he isn’t really good at comebacks if his plan unravels before half time. What we need to do is to be aggressive early on and break up Palace’s play with quick counter attacks. I would like to see Aarons start for once on the left with Sissoko centre and Townsend right. Get the first half goals and the crowd behind the team and we should be in a good position to take 3 points.

  • 37 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    if by some miracle we escape do you think rafa will have the power to turn round and get rid of carr and charnley.

  • 38 martoon // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    bettyswallocks @30 – If I knew what that meant I could give you an answer 🙂

  • 39 magscar // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Think ignoring Pardew is the way and unexpectedly I find agreement with BandB in that chanting Rafa Benitez would work on so many levels and concentrate crowd noise which needs to be at highest level possible.

    No need to regroup for Spurs game either 🙂

    RAFA BENITEZ

  • 40 Rotonda heights // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    it’s funny how SAF could handle enfant terribles and flair players like Cantona and harness their talent positively but AP was clueless with HBA.
    Now Bayern, Chelsea and Liverpool want him. Damning indictment of the procession of low grade appointmens prior to rafa.

  • 41 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    ………and in the FA Cup final. Pardew prefers 442, given the players, as did Ferguson, who were of course a thrilling side. Of course Fergie had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham and a host of other once in a generation players.

  • 42 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    More of a damning inictment of Ben Arfa.
    He’s 30 next March.
    What a waste of talent.
    Apparently his attitude at Nice is impeccable – why wait so long?

  • 43 magscar // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Rotonda

    HBA is another issue we have to simply let go like Pardew. I loved him in his finest moments like we all did but they were too few and far between.

    In a way like a lot of flair players – Ginola, Robert he never seemed to grasp that you also have to work on to integrating your individuality into a team.

    The very top players do that and don’t rely on managers to carry the burden. I would be (pleasantly) amazed if a big transfer comes off and removed from his current comfort zone he can excel consistently.

    Let us see if he indeed blossoms in a higher quality environment or reverts to his bad old ways.

  • 44 BandB // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    magscar

    Yes, the noise thing is also important in the equation..
    Polite clapping for Pardew from anyone who feels the need is okay.
    I just hope the noise is such no-one hears it.

  • 45 martoon // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    magscar @38 – At the recent home matches the crowd have sang the Rafa Benitez song anyway – so I can’t see tomorrow being any different!

  • 46 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Because youth is wasted on the young, as all of us above the age of 40 increasingly ponder from time to time with wistful regret. Ben Arfa will come to wistfully regret more than most, I suppose.

  • 47 magscar // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:31 AM

    BandB

    My memory may be wrong but even the reception for revered KK’s return with Man City years back wasn’t overwhelming. Didn’t get booed though!

    Don’t mind others simply acknowledging AP but wouldn’t personally and don’t see the occasion warrants distraction of booing. What will be will be. As we all know a crowd is very much an untamed and untameable beast for the most.

    On that note hope the requests started on here for recognition of Hillsborough verdict has gained some traction with Club but am doubtful. Club may worry about distraction as it would only work once most are in the ground – few mins to KO. Not sure what their view might be.

  • 48 AncientC // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    I will never forgive Pardew for his treatment of Ben Arfa. A criminal waste of talent; made even worse by Pardew’s boasting during the process of signing Adebayor for Palace, claiming if he could manage Ben Arfa he could manage Adebayor.

  • 49 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    “AncientC
    I will never forgive Pardew for his treatment of Ben Arfa.”

    Pardew will probably get over it 😎

  • 50 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    He did manage Ben Arfa for the most part. Whereas I doubt Ferguson would have entertained him for a second. Beckham and Giggs never stopped running, in both directions, because they knew they wouldn’t play otherwise. It made them world beaters. Ben Arfa was playing in the EPL, for Newcastle, under Pardew, but wouldn’t graft. What did he expect?

  • 51 Jib // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    In general terms Cantona wasn’t an enfant terrible – the karate incident at Palace was evidence of a fiery temper not an attitude problem.
    Cantona captained both Man U and France.
    The thought of Ben Arfa being captain of anything is laughable.

  • 52 AncientC // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    jimmysmith – Beckham & Giggs were Wingers. HBA is an attacking midfielder – there is a difference. At Nice he is played further forward in his natural position.

  • 53 AncientC // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    There is little point going over the Ben Arfa opinions again, I think we all know by know each others opinions on the subject. My opinion is unlikely to change; therefore I doubt other people of opposing views are likely to change their views, in regards to the management of Ben Arfa’s talents at Newcastle by Pardew.

  • 54 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Steve Bruce couldn’t handle him at all. I don’t think he played a full match for Hull. Maybe he has grown up and become less petulant.

  • 55 AncientC // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    *know by now*

  • 56 AncientC // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Back tomorrow, I have one last chance to get a run in before the Belfast marathon on Monday. Eugh.

  • 57 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    Fair point. It was odd that he was never trusted to play in the hole. But then again Scholes grafted in there too, as the best always do.

    Pardew liked his wingers, and he never trusted Ben Arfa to pull the strings with any sought of consistency I suppose.

    It’s understandable, he wasn’t exactly a banker.

  • 58 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    The problem Hatem had with us was that his tem mates didn’t like him and he became a divisive influence. He was undoubtedly the most skilful player in our history but it is a team game.

  • 59 bettyswallocks // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Jib……. When the seagulls are following the trawler as there are no fish in the water was a famous quote from Cantona. This signifies his leadership qualities and should have been passed on to Ben Arfa.

  • 60 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    Beardsley was far, far better than Ben Arfa, so was Gazza. Far, far better, with perhaps less natural talent, and he had plenty.

  • 61 magscar // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    Would Rafa pick HBA tomorrow if here? Hmmmm

  • 62 hibbitt // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    best player to ever wear a newcastle shirt TONY GREEN

  • 63 manxpie // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    Are people forgetting the only team in for arfa were nice!
    Why was that? Where were the big teams fighting for his signature on a free?
    I’d have townsend over arfa any day

  • 64 magscar // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    Hibbitt@62
    What might have been 🙁

  • 65 jimmysmith // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Tony Green never played long enough or high enough to have earned his now legendary status, in my opinion.

    But I once had a coach who was a former Boro player and a pal of Souness, and he said the best player he ever faced was Tony Green.

  • 66 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Apr 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM

    Attack toon attack attack

  • 67 ScoopSouthAfrica // Apr 29, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Re – 65 What about your namesake JINKY JIM he had some fair ball skills on a Saturday even after a few Brown Ales on a Friday night upstairs in the Chancellors Head…..
    Could not get away with that now I expect.




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