Liverpool Legend – Newcastle Fans Are Class


It was very moving yesterday to hear the Newcastle fans sing “You’ll Never Walk Alone” before the game in tribute to those 96 fans who died in the Hillsborough disaster and the Liverpool fans have finally been cleared of any wrongdoing after 27 years.

Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard has put on his Twitter account that tribute by our fans was really class.

Newcastle fans are class alright.



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110 comments so far

  • BandB

    May 1, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #1

    Lump in the throat time.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 1, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #2

    And we have moved on just as I finished typing!! It does get very annoying but I forgive Ed as he provides a bl**dy good forum for us to chunter on on.

    I was out last night and didn’t see MOTD till gone 3am.

    Thought it was a cliffhanger and Lascelles was majestic, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone made a really big bid for him during the Summer and we all know what MA’s reaction to that would be.

    I agree with whoever it was that said GD could be the decider, there’s been far to many games where we have bee hammered. It’s improved under Rafa but could be too late.
    The Sundaland and Norwich games were the possible killers for us, my worst memory was seeing one of ours standing like a statue as players ran past him.

    Still we are in with a real chance especially if the other two slip up, I reckon Norwich are down we just have to do better than Sundaland.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 1, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #3

    “Bee hammered” = Been hammered”

    Been signing to many petitions against ‘nictenoids’

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 1, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #4

    Or not enough even!!

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  • GeordieoftheSouth

    May 1, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #5

    Sorry Ed but it’s not Stevie G… It’s a fan page

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  • magscar

    May 1, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #6

    Repost again

    Ed what time is it over there? 🙂

    13 magscar // May 1, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    I think Marveuax and Obertran is a non-story – contracts up, not able to help on field and not getting a new contract so no need to delay their departure, If contracts paid up in full couple of months earlier so what?

    Overall surely a win win for all concerned – a (possibly disruptive?) Gallic influence removed from dressing room and they and their agents can start selling their abilities to other clubs soonest.

    The real mystery is that there was no similar announcement about Taylor who is contractually similar as far as I m aware?

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  • wolfshead@toon

    May 1, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #7

    @5

    well spotted a bit embarrassing never mind quickly start a new thread haha

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 1, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #8

    Jib – earlier post and link.
    I really do not think you can suggest that Rafa had dossiers about loads of players whilst at Liverpool.
    That is not to say he did not have any personal knowledge of players – totally different things
    The link you provided did not support your post.
    What your link did do was to give me a bloody fright and a real fright at that.
    The list of players bought under his “tenure” at Liverpool is both lengthy and full of players I’ve never heard of and or who have never been heard of again.
    The list confirms millions wasted by Liverpool -really wasted -probably beyond the wastefullness of other clubs – in my opinion.

    Liverpool currently have this transfer board which the fans do not like – there are people still at the club from Rafas day -so I wonder really how much of these buys were down to him and not others.
    The list shows – in the immediate period after his appointment quite a few “nobodys’ from Spain being hired – folk never to be heard of again- by and large. Were these players”his influence” – probably but hard to say definitevely.

    Your link probably confirms (taking into account what I’ve said above) opinions already stated in the football world that Rafa is a better coach than buyer of players. But who is to say with any degree of certainty.
    The list of players is a shocker though.

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #9
  • RolandoOverhead

    May 1, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #10

    16th May, will be the first time in memory where rather than thinking we should buy A, B, C and D I’ll be thinking, just buy whomever the gaffer wants.

    In Rafa we Trust

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #11

    Tuff if you knew a bit more , you would know that Rafa rarely lost out on a player , even if they didn’t succeed he very rarely lost on a resale.
    Also some of the players ascribed to him were forced on him.

    With regard to his dossiers – a BBC film crew visited him at Melwood for Football Focus and were gobsmacked by his attention to detail , he had an entire room full of videos (at that time ) of players from all over the world.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #12

    Oops Ed never mind though the sentiment us what counts. I’m more impressed that a fan group would appreciate it than an ex player tbf. A proud moment for us as much maligned idiot fans at times.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #13

    “like it or not, join the populus and refuse to see reason…”

    Come on, mate – joining the rabble for the sake of it? Moi? Low blow.

    “…but that man has served us well, he has got us a not notch manager and got the owner to spend money, what more can we ask from him…”

    It depends on which criteria you say he served us well. In the accounts business, maybe. In the sporting academic side…please…really?

    “…seriously I don’t know what else we could ask from him, some will sarcastically say his resignation, but where would we go and who with !”

    Aahhhh. The old “better stick with him the next guy could be worse” principle. Nuff said.

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #14

    Jib – I confess I am not knowledgable about Liverpool Football Club – being a Toon fan and would in this instance bow to your superior knowledge.
    I would be obliged if you could therefore let me know/ provide a list of players that were forced upon Rafa – I would be most interested – as it lends itself to the debate about who has the first and final say about new signings.
    If you are inclined to assist my interest further -do you know how many of the players from acrosss the world who starred in his videos were bought by Liverpool.
    Many thanks – in advance of your information.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 1, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #15

    Dare we believe it’s a strong possibility now rather than a hopeful one. Still think there will be further twists but it’s nice to feel that our position on the table can allow us to relax a little better.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #16

    Let’s just straighten a few links here.

    Charnley is a number shuffler, an economics and statistics student. A faithful servant of the club remit as imposed in armour plated fashion by Ashley.

    He is also a bumbler and procrastinator, with little knowledge of the Game in any of it’s nuances. He does not understand the correlation between sporting success and building a robust brand and future financial stability. He is a short sighted, short term gains, turnover operative.

    This means that whilst he can make sweeping financial decisions via the “in” and “out” columns, decisions that have impact on the lasting sporting legacy are far beyond his ken.

    He is straddling two jobs, one of which he cannot do, or comprehend.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 1, 2016 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #17

    Should read… In the table.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #18

    Conclusion – useful in accounts but needs to be suitably sidelined so as not to interfere with the football division.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #19

    Betty – should read. Full stop. It would help you. 🙂

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #20

    Mr T. Ooh ooh don’t forget to ask him if they were vhs or betamax. Or that daft video 2000 thingy.

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  • BandB

    May 1, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #21

    Spoof

    I don’t know about Charnley being an assassin.
    But he sure is quiet.
    As a mouse.

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #22

    Mister Tuff // May 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM
    Jib – I confess I am not knowledgable

    correct

    stick to fishing in canals

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #23

    Has anyone told Rafa about YouTube? Somebody could drop him a line. Ian Toon maybe. He has the managers email address. Or was it the coaches email address?

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #24

    Assasin? Probably the first parts right.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #25

    Assasssssssin!

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #26

    The only thing useful to come from Charnley would be just WeightWatchers login. He isn’t using it and Rob Vollans could do with something else to occupy himself with.

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  • Tsunki

    May 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #27

    *his. 🙁

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  • magscar

    May 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #28

    Spoof@14 last thread ( unless it has moved again)

    Sorry but can only dip in and out at minute and Tour De Yorks is coming nearby soon so off out.

    As you say it is all perception which is severely clouded because of a lack of clear communication. I agree that something has changed and that it was because of another total crisis!!

    I have little faith that Charnley (driven by Carr’s advice or not but having just picked a largely failed manager not suited to current PL or a massive job at this club) could suddenly have seen the light and gone out for Rafa, Yes he had some involvement but not enough in my view for me to revise my opinion.

    Like all of Ashley’s employees he is hamstrung by what ever restrictions are placed on him but not only did he get McClaren’s appointment wrong but he dithered far too long from misguided loyalty (and fear and stubbornness?) in not moving earlier and just allowing us to drift ( perhaps only names on shortlist had been Garde and McClaren?).

    Best I could say for him ( in what some would argue was a difficult role) is that he didn’t mess it up. I suspect that Ashley as he had done in crisis before ( Llambias not closing transfer deals) stepped in ( as only he could I suppose being The Man) but it is all just piecing together a jigsaw without the box lid cover.

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #29

    Big crowd Sutton Bank

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  • welshgeordie9

    May 1, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #30

    What a performance today by the swans, wonder if Leicester get the next goal, good match so far.

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 1, 2016 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #31

    Jib – I am very disappointed that you were not able to provide the information as I had thought you had some relevant information suggested in your posts. Clearly no information then – I am very disappointed.

    Can you help out here then – I am only trying to tap into your knowledge base – to further inform myself on these matters.

    Your list from earlier reports under Rafas tenure a net spend of £230,000.000 and a net income of £162,000,000 recouped on players sales.
    This by my accounting suggests a loss of
    £68,000,000.
    How therefore if Rafa had players forced upon him can we say he did not lose out financially on a resale – when overall the club lost money and we do not know who he actually bought.

    Many thanks in advance of the information being provided.

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  • BandB

    May 1, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #32

    The scuttlebutt was that the Rafa deal was done through intermediaries, but I don’t know who they were and if others did, they didn’t say.
    Rafa seems to have seen it, as I said, as a “They Might Be Giants” scenario and fancied the unlikely romance aspect of it…the chance to be a hero.
    He has little to lose by failing in this environment.
    If Charnley himself has intermediaries I am flummoxed to imagine who they could be.
    Ashley may just have said “Get Him!” when the opportunity arose. It was a desperate situation and we were going down the pan.
    He has mates and satellites who are probably on terms with Rafa and his people. Could have been Harry who passed the messages back and forth….. who knows?
    I doubt if it was Richard Keys 🙂
    It was almost certainly done through informal channels.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #33

    Charnley could well be the silent assassin, more like a sniper.

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  • magscar

    May 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #34

    Jib

    It is well supported all over Yorkshire in now 2cnd year ( and even Teesside/ Langbaugh !) – can be long wait for something that literally goes by in a flash.

    Catch all later

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #35

    Mr Tuff
    You can lead a horse to water but you cannot stop it being thick as pigshit.
    The figures you use are for Rafa’s tenure at Liverpool – however for example Torres was sold for £50 million after he left – DOH !

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  • BandB

    May 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #36

    There’s a reason why Keith Bishop has taken Ashley’s place at the games.
    There’s a reason why McClaren was pleading with Bishop and not Charnley for his job after the Bournemouth game.
    Bishop is the eminence gris, the one Ashley listens too.
    I doubt any of the “board” were much in the loop over the Rafa deal, as McClaren was one of them and the responsibility for appointing him had been lobbed into Charnley’s lap.
    They bungled his sacking because they were waiting for updates from above.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 1, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #37

    I’m sure Charnley will be kept on in some form of administrative capacity. There is a huge amount of work to do behind the scenes to keep a football club running . A manager in the old days would be responsible for the running of the club from top to bottom with only a few secretaries to help. Nowadays there is only so much a manager can do,so players contracts, hiring and firing other personnel, etc. etc needs to be taken care of by someone.

    As long as Rafa is given control of all footballing decisions then I’m sure that’s plenty to keep him busy and as long as the bumbling cumberworld Charnley doesn’t interfere then I think it will work out ok. He knows the internal workings of the club inside out and Ashley seems comfortable with him.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 1, 2016 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #38

    Jib
    You talk about leading a horse to water and folk being thick as pigshit. I think Tuff’s point is drifting well over your head, mate.

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  • Thump

    May 1, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #39

    Aye, just before KO all you could hear in town was the stadium singing. Class touch, and glad it happened.

    Might also be worth noting, Ed – that isn’t Gerrard.

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  • Jib

    May 1, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #40

    Blackley
    Being called mate (or fella for that matter ) by you grosses me out .

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