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Can Newcastle Beat Villa And Keep Our Hopes Alive?

9:34 am, Wednesday, May 4th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

Almost seven years ago, Newcastle went to Villa Park on the last day of the season in 2009 in 3rd bottom place and it turns out that a draw would have saved us – but we lost 1-0.

The goal was unfortunate when a Gareth Barry shot came off the out-stretched leg of Damien Duff into the goal and that defeat took us down to the Championship.

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Rafa Benitez – Newcastle manager

Things are different seven years on and Aston Villa have already been relegated with only 16 points and three wins this season.

Newcastle desperately have to win this game to help us survive this season and we still have to register our first away win of 2016.

With the late surge under Rafa Benitez, which has seen us get 8 points in the last four games the hope is we can win only our third away game this season on Saturday to keep the hopes alive we can survive the drop on the last day against Spurs at home.

That’s what we are all hoping for in what has been another disastrous season at Newcastle and that’s after spending a massive £82M in the transfer market.

Those running Newcastle have made a complete mess of things once again – and that’s really hard to do when you spend so much money on new players.

It’s complete incompetence – plain and simple.

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82 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // May 4, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    Don’t know

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 9:39 AM

    Me either.

  • 3 hibbitt // May 4, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    hope so

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Jib,
    He hires people like Wise etc because they tell him what he wants to hear. Would Charnley be in a job if he argued that cups were a good thing for a club. TDSarf argued from a business point of view they weren’t. This mindset has the group of previously disinterested players the way they are.

  • 5 Malackay // May 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    This game worries me, Villa have started to score goals in recent games. With our away form I think we will need to keep a clean sheet to win this game and just can’t see it happening.

    We need to win next two games to stay up IMO, and it looks a bit unlikely to be despite the poor season of Villa and injury/suspension position Spurs find themselves in. Spurs are second for a reason.

    I’m praying the other teams struggle for points!

  • 6 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    As always, we “can”, but will we?

    We certainly should.

  • 7 Jib // May 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    Man City must win tonight
    If we have another all Madrid final I’ll never get any peace off me neighbours !

  • 8 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    As far as Ashley is concerned, it is refreshing that he may have moved on from the likes of Wise, Llambias and Kinnear. He’s realised the error of his ways and instead hired a PR guru.

  • 9 Tsunki // May 4, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    “Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 7:10 AM

    So summing up yesterdays musings, young magpie from Burnley is a thirty year old teenager from Ireland among other places who has life threatening diseases and has gone for the shock factor gay admission while saying his website is better.”

    Worth a repost ha ha I think the important thing we can learn from this is that Shock Rob has revamped his website so we all need to rock on over there.

    😀

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Jib,
    I can’t understand why you are so keen to criticise the club pre Benitez when you made it your main topic of conversation to defend everything they done. I remember you saying “and why should he” when I asked if Mclaren should be sacked if he continually met his targets, basically implying that you would have been happy for him to remain as long as he didn’t get us relegated.

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    *failed to meet

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  • 13 BandB // May 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Jib

    It is sad that people from around the world no longer post round the clock as they did in the days before a small group of people settled on the blog who spend most of their time arguing that if you don’t have a season ticket your opinion is second class at best and probably worthless.
    There was a time recently when no-one posted after 7pm but you and WelshGeordie.

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    hibbitt,
    Should coincide nicely with SD paying 30M a year for its brightly coloured hoardings plastered around the stadium.

  • 15 stuart no9 // May 4, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    stuart no9 // May 3, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    to be honest , the spurs game dosnt bother me now.
    they lost the plot last night there season is finished now . 2 players likely to be banned , is Kane willing to risk injury ahead of the euros, ? the players are deflated espescially after being 2-0 up , ?
    The 3 points are there for the taking as long as we dont do anything bloody stupid but raffa will make sure that dosnt happen . I think Raffa knows we are safe IF we beat villa on saturday, for some reason this game concerns me a little. The villa game is the game ive worried about over the last month

  • 16 hibbitt // May 4, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    Jail for Ashley

    i could live with that if SD paid for the privilege

  • 17 BandB // May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Charnley explained that the free advertising was quid pro quo for the interest free loan, and therefore good deal for both parties.
    I wonder if the position on the loan has now also changed?

  • 18 job // May 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    Oi oi

  • 19 jayphoto // May 4, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    If we can’t beat this villa team quite frankly we don’t deserve to stay up!
    I’ve photographed a few of their players girlfriends for various mags, players have the worst attitude towards to club and the fans.
    The fans are also planning a mystery protest! Last home game of the season for them in a relegation season – its going to be toxic! They’ve not won for months either….

  • 20 jayphoto // May 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    Question is, will Spurs be able to field a side against us? Looks like dembele and possibly Lamela and Walker facing retrospective bans…
    they lost the plot against Chelsea, be interesting to see where their heads are at the rest of the season

  • 21 job // May 4, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    Possiblet hey are up their own butts Jay

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Jay,
    What are the Villa fans protesting about, is it for him to sell up? It will be interesting where that goes and could give us some pointers if George Burley is manager next season.

  • 23 Wayayman // May 4, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    I was bricking i against Palace the other day. I didn’t celebrate the wondergoal from Townsend like I ususally would have because I’d just that second said to my son that Cabaye was probably the last free kick we’d scored and that we usually hit the wall or miss the target completely. What a hit. My jaw was on the floor and I couldnt actually beleive that we’d gone ahead in another must-win game.
    The Villa game has me and a lot of others needing therapy after the last time we went there needing a win. I can only hope that we exorcise that demon and that Villa don’t take us down with them.

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    Job
    Vollans?

  • 25 stuart no9 // May 4, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    jail —- the protests are starting in the city with a march to the ground , then in the 74th minute something is planned inside the ground , not sure what though – something to tell the owners they are not wanted and that change is needed . That should give our lads a boost surely??

  • 26 Tsunki // May 4, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    Oh no you didn’

    🙂

  • 27 WWSBRD // May 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM

    Not sure why anyone thinks we will lose to Villa? Haven’t they lost their last 11 games? Without a manager, the players are all over the place and their fans (those of which go these days) are toxic (they cheer the opposition currently)

    I half expect mags to out number the villa supporters in the ground

  • 28 Slank // May 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    I think the Villa game will be the harder of the two remaining games.

    The only good news is that the Villa fans are going to protest against their club. Previous protests by fans against their respective clubs tend to disrupt their team’s performances. Let’s hope this continues.

    I feel that Spurs whilst turning up physically may already be on their holidays and may not be their usual self.

    Two wins for us and bad luck for Sunderland and Norwich are the only results that will prevent relegation for us.

  • 29 job // May 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Couldn’t what? Jail

  • 30 job // May 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Vollans what Jail

  • 31 WWSBRD // May 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Slank
    I think Villa players have been on their holidays for months mate, in fact am not sure they have ever been at work this season

  • 32 Tsunki // May 4, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    😀

    Explain, Jail.

  • 33 Wayayman // May 4, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    Agbonlahor has definitely been on his holidays!

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villas-gabby-agbonlahor-shows-11272304

    He’s right though, I stayed in the exact same place last year watching m boy play in the same tournament. It was bloody baltic inside the steel box!

  • 34 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    So, i tell a few home truths that the borg dislike and i’m to blame for the failure of the blog? Really? Is that the best you can do?
    This bizarre notion that i dislike none attending fans began because i questioned the right of none attenders to tell attenders to boycott. That was it. Then as usual, it got twisted, and personal insults started flying my way, but my argument stood up because it is right.
    It’s time some of you had a realty check. I have never had a problem with who supports the club i love, the further away the better in some cases. But lets dispell this once and for all. We are not all the same level of fans. That is just ludicrous. Why people have a problem with this has zero to do with facts and everything to do with their poor deflated egos. I get called arrogant because i go to games. The real arrogant ones are those who think that sitting at home, is anything like being a match attendee. It ain’t, and the sensible ones don’t have an issue with it. Only the usual suspects. Same old, same old.
    There are those fans who go home and away, then somehow manage to fly the world over watching pre season friendlies. Total commitment, bordering on obsession. Keep it up lads, nothing but respect. Wish i could, but such is life. I would never rate myself alongside them.
    Home and away. Done that until recently, but travel is now beyond me. Still, did it for many many years. Proud and loyal.
    ST holders, the general lifeblood and the face of NUFC. The ones who make a difference at home games.
    Occasional attenders. Magnificent effort for getting there when you can. Like ST holders, the face of NUFC.
    When you support a club – any club – it’s not a matter of just turning up. It’s a way of life. You miss lots of things in order to support your club. You set off at midnight, to get to a game sky or BT has determined will be a 12.45 ko. This is not just watching, this is commitment to a cause.
    I’ve answered that call all my life, only for certain twisted jealous people to denigrate that.
    Arrived with keegan, enjoyed the good times, but legged it when it got hard AGAIN. Need an excuse? Blame Ashley, the rest do.
    I have no problem with fans who can’t go, because of lifes troubles, or being out of the country, but neither will i sit back and be called ‘the problem’ by said fans.
    Now, every time i mention going to the games, i get attacked by morons who read far too much into it.
    I’m proud to be a geordie and proud to be a fan. I won’t stop mentioning going to games because it upsets a very minute section on here – albeit the ones with the biggest mouths.

  • 35 Average_Contents // May 4, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Who started that off again….

  • 36 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:34 AM

    Try those digging at me when i ain’t here to defend myself. No need to look much further than this page really. The real reason the blog went quiet was that people – myself included – got fed up of the usual suspects continually harping on about multiples and who’s who, or what they can or can’t say. The blog police, in other words. If somebody wishes to be a multiple, let them. Who is it hurting? It’s their problem, nobody elses. Who are they to tell people how to behave? They should check their own behaviour first.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Really!

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    If the whole stadium had boycotted instead of 10K we might have had a good manager instead of just getting slightly improved communication.

  • 39 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    This is a blog and my opinions are as valid as anybody elses. Just because a small group dislike them, so what? I dislike their opinions, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t post ffs. Trying to shut people up who don’t agree with you is a rocky road to ruin.

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    Bobby.
    Yes!

  • 41 shaun83 // May 4, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    Bobby – from what I can tell the majority of the issue, my complaint included, wasn’t anything about you. It was the same thing you’ve said which is posters slagging off other posters or going on about this guy is really him or her, it’s a comments section on a blog ffs, who cares. I happen to agree with a lot of your posts of late, not that it matters whether I do or don’t, it’s all a matter of opinion.

  • 42 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    Jail, if the whole stadium WANTED to boycott, they would do. That’s YOUR agenda, not the agenda of the majority of match going fans. We will boycott if we ever choose to do so, not because of what you want. Wow, your ego knows no bounds. Do as i say, not as i do has always – and will always – be the saddest of the lot. The man who said ‘i won’t go again whilst ashley is still there’ and ‘he won’t get another penny of my money.’ Now you’re still whining on about boycotts, when the other day you were whining about not being able to get a ticket for the spurs game! Ffs STFU.

  • 43 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    Shaun, i thank you sir. Read that bandb? Not me, the likes of you who nearly shut the blog down. You lot do not own this blog. Ed does. He has never once contacted me about my input, so why would i change? I pass my opinions that may be a blunt for sensitive souls, but that’s life. I don’t pointlessly slag off other posters and resort to personal attacks. I occasionally respond in kind, but that’s only because i wish to speak to them on a level they clearly understand.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    Bobby,
    I’m just saying that if the other 40K had of looked at the bigger picture instead of defiantly saying I won’t be told what to do it might have sent a bigger message. I said I wouldn’t go back until there was suitable investement and 80M has been spent. You harp on about people having a go and end your post with STFU. Ffs

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Bobbybee.
    Your claim that my comments nearly gorced Ed to quit? Surely he would have contacted me about that.

  • 46 Average_Contents // May 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    This is a blog and my opinions are as valid as anybody elses.

    But only valid if they agree with your opinion or hold a ST. Isn’t that right eh Bobby.

    Other than that yeah, they don’t count.

    Why so angry all the time. Ffs this, ffs that, stfu this, stfu that.

    Just curious.

  • 47 Average_Contents // May 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Note to the blog.

    Jail and I never communicated outside of the blog (never have with him) to decide to question poor Bobby.

    Just incase like….

  • 48 jimmysmith // May 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    The free advertising was always dubious. It was the clearest example of how the club was being used. Now with the level of exposure the EPL affords and the TV money on offer, its impossible to overlook it. If Ashley doesn’t pour every cent the club earns back in, he’s an amoral bastard. But, to be fair, he unto now has. I think he will continue to do it, provided we stay up. He can hardly hope to get away with it otherwise.

  • 49 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    Right, job done, piece said. If you are going to give it large when i ain’t here, realise i will read it and respond. You don’t own this blog. You don’t get to tell me what opinions i should have and if anybody else does allow you dictate their opinions, shame on them.

  • 50 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    Bobby…I don’t see the need to build this up in to a frenzy. I’m sure you talked about a lack of understanding the other day. I think you may well have been right, but that’s a two way street.

    I do believe Jails point was solely that if more fans had stood up at the time, then perhaps we’d have had a Rafa type much earlier and be enjoying this improved NUFC and likely be nowhere near the relegation spots.

    It didn’t have to be boycotts (Or even “boycott” of a game – Spurs – as it originally started). The issue is, discussions of any type of action are quickly filed under “Hidden agendas” and not being “real fans”.

    Yes, a lack of understanding is a big issue.

    With that in mind, can you clarify something for me? Today you have talked about rights to post, which I agree with. You’ve also talked about the categorising of fans (no one has ever disputed that either – clearly there are more dedicated fans and those who contribute more money to the club). In the past, you have used such catergorising to determine who should or shouldn’t have a valid opinion on a subject matter. For instance, you’ve said I have no right to comment on what match attending fans should do.

    Why is that, when all opinions are valid?

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Bobbybee,
    Nobody is telling you what opinions to have, some people will agree with you some won’t. No need for all the shouting.

  • 52 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    Bobby…Apologies, I hit submit before seeing you were popping out. I do hope it isn’t seen as talking about you behind your back, on a public forum, that anyone can read, at anytime.

    No one is telling you what opinions to have. Just what theirs are and yes, there are people who share the same opinions. You seem to understand that when it’s your opinion that you’re laying the law down on.

    Have a good day.

  • 53 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 12:00 PM

    Average, no, that’s bollox and you know it. Typical of you though. Everyone has a right to an opinion. If said opinion is found wanting by reasonable argument, then the blog has worked. If you lose a discussion, resorting to personal insults and using the pathetic ‘ only your opinion is right’ as a get out, is, frankly, pathetic. If the cap fits, bang it on. I put an opinion then state my reasoning behind it. That is the basis for discussion. Unlike yourself, who doesn’t have any reasoning other than to try and shout me down with personal insults. It’s pathetic.

  • 54 SPRINGY // May 4, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    happy blog again i see!….anyone have any news on anita’s fitness?

  • 55 magscar // May 4, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    Bobby

    Relax don’t get drawn into a side show. There have been a few attempts to resuscitate arguments recently.

  • 56 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    Springy…I’ve not seen anything mentioned on Anita. Hope he’s alright. Don’t want to be changing that back line if we can help it.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    magscar,
    Don’t get drawn in? It’s a blog, people need to post their opinions. People respond, that’s how it works.

  • 58 SPRINGY // May 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    ibiza
    cheers mate,hows the sunshine mate?
    if anita is crocked,who would you prefer….janmaat or mbabu?

  • 59 WWSBRD // May 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    Last I read/heard (dont recall which) on Anita he was unlikely to be fit for Villa but Janmatt should be

    Seeing as I dont even recall how I got this info I have no idea how reliable it is

  • 60 SPRINGY // May 4, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    too many mates in that last comment…..bad

  • 61 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM

    Magscar…Was it not Jib who started the theme off today?

    Jib // May 4, 2016 at 7:25 AM

    Not a comment for 6 hours while the UK sleeps.

    I think the expats have given up on this blog as a waste of space – The last 3 threads by Ed hardly acknowledged , just non footy related sniping and ill-tempered infighting.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Ed decided to call it a day and chuck it in !

  • 62 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Ibiza, i have never said who can and who can’t have an opinion. Some chance of that. Twist away to your hearts content, but it ain’t been said. Boycotts ffs! How many attended them? Not you, obviously, bit your reports were way off the mark. You don’t support a regime, you support a football team. This ain’t politics. Please. Name me an owner who has taken less out of NUFC than Ashley? I go back as far as Westwood the pirate – very apt description. Football is, sadly, more business than sport because of the money involved. It will attract sharks. I follow the football team. If we go through tough times, i stick with it. Owners come and go. It’s not all about winning ffs. We’ve won nowt for decades, long before Ashley came along. Boycotts. Grow up.

  • 63 WWSBRD // May 4, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Ibiza
    Jib making trouble? Surely not

  • 64 SPRINGY // May 4, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    according to physio room theres no return date for anita…muscular injury…and janmaat wrist/thumb injury 7th may

  • 65 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    Mags, you’re right – and none by me. I do, however, retain the god given right to defend myself. 😉

  • 66 jimmysmith // May 4, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    There’s no question in my mind that Ashley, Charnley, Carr, Pardew, even the likes of Beardsley, Carver, and Moncur, unless they are thick, have played fast and loose with the club. Rafa or not, and the success he may bring, isn’t gonna change that, We have been shined on. I’m not about to forget it, even if my discontent doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, which it won’t, but we’ll all remember, and we’ll always be reminded, because SD will always take priority over us so long as he is the owner.

  • 67 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Springy, mate, the weather is beautiful, mate 🙂

    That’s a question and a half right there. Previously, I’ve been a somewhat fan of Janmaat, but he’s clearly not a player to count on when times are tough. Mbabu has looked decent, lively and a team player. My pick would be him, but I do have faith in Rafa to make the right call.

    Having a proper manager sure makes our job easier.

  • 68 BandB // May 4, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    I remember when Ibizatoon was regarded as an informed and popular poster, even by those who disagreed with him.
    No one would have dreamed of subjecting him to almost daily goading about his location and unfitness to comment of the kind he has undergone recently.
    But that was back in the old days.

  • 69 bettyswallocks // May 4, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    Bobby…….. The blog is used for different things by different people. Football and NUFC is our common bond but not everyone on here wants to talk about football to the exclusion of everything else. Between matches when every drop of analysis, discussion and speculation for the next game has been wrung out, then imho there s nothing wrong with the conversation becoming more diverse, especially if there’s a bit of fun to be had.

    Where the blog has become more like a place to socialise , then people interact and their personal lives are sometimes discussed. When someone comes on and fabricates a lie about being in hospital and seriously ill to try and gain sympathy and people are duped into believing it then of course they are entitled to feel aggrieved. It’s human nature and a normal reaction.

    To then become curious as to who and why someone would deliberately set up multiple accounts , which created a lot of anger and resentment and subsequently disrupt the blog so badly that it was nearly closed down and drove poor Ed to distraction is also the prerogative of those that care.

    If you’re only interested in the footy chat Bob that’s fine , but the blog is self policing as poor Ed couldn’t keep control of all us reprobates so just ignore the stuff you’re not interested in would be my advice.

    I

  • 70 Average_Contents // May 4, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    Please show me where I’ve personally insulted you in my posts on this thread.

    Perhaps you should take a leaf out of your own book and realise it was a discussion with questions asked.

    Oh and nobody told you what to think. As far as I’m aware.

    Why you bang on about it is one of life’s great mystery’s.

  • 71 posada // May 4, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    We can win, but it’s not a foregone conclusion.
    Need to just prepare right and hope for the best.
    We need the breaks.
    Luck, the Ref and other variables will play a part.
    If we stay up it’s a bonus.
    We were dead and buried a few weeks ago.

  • 72 Hail Wor Ashley // May 4, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    Anita seemed fit and cheery enough walking off without any hint of pain on his face. I imagine a tweaked muscle, down for a few minutes a tactic to allow a breather and Rafa to pass on some instructions, then off as a precaution.

    Expect him to be fit. Hope so, if not Janmaat better have been watching him closely and taking note. Perhaps Mbabu would be a better option given his early season showing added to the fact he’s been up and running for about a month now.

  • 73 WWSBRD // May 4, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    Bobby
    How can u remove the regime from the team? U give money to the club it goes to the regime not the team, boycotts hurt the ‘sharks’ so am not sure why u think boycotts are so terrible

  • 74 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    Anyway mags, how are ya marra? As excited by the villa game as i am no doubt. 😉 This end of the season is as good as its got this season, but to be fair, it ain’t letting us down. A couple of weeks ago we were 17/1 on to go down. The mackems were huge favourites to stay up. Now the odds are pretty even at 6/4 or 7/4 ON for both teams.

  • 75 stuart no9 // May 4, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    I stopped going to SJP when AP arrived. The reason was because i thought as long as he was in charge , NUFC were not going to move on and Ashley had gone for the cheaper option.
    Ashley sent out a huge message as far as i was concened that the club was going to be run as a business and not as a football club and the time was right to bale out regardless of the previous 40 odd years of home and away , i was finished . what was the point of going ? in hindsight , i was right .
    I got my seat back in the milburn stand against swansea and palace because for once in 9 years there was something to go back for,
    I missed out on my spurs ticket coz i didnt apply when they went on sale to members a couple of weeks ago . Gutted to say the least , but i cant moan really , havnt been for a lot of years when others have had to endure the dross served up by every manager after CH was sacked .
    \As long as the club show ambition , i’ll be there , if Ashley reverts back to his ridiculous policies , on recruitment and his strange choice of idiots to run the club , sadly , the palace game could be my last for a very long time

  • 76 SPRINGY // May 4, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    ibiza
    aye,like you thought janmaat was one of the better players,have to question the defensive side of his game though,but recently he’s been off the boil,similar to perez’s slump in form….maybe the lack of competition for his place has made him complacent…mbabu looks a talent,his fitness is a big worry but if he can get and keep himself fit,he could be the next young talented strong player to come into the defence along side mbemba and lascelles….just wonder about the left back spot…is dummett the answer with these young players?.

  • 77 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Yo…Perhaps he had the best of intentions. People responded, without insults as well I believe. Bobby doesn’t seem to read it that way though.

    Bobby…Perhaps I’m mistaken. It is an issue I’ve tried to clear up with you previously, but you can’t seem to do so calmly and without insults, or bringing your fan chart in to it.

    This isn’t a direct quote, but you have said what right do I have to tell match going fans what to do, as I have never attended. That’s not twisting. Perhaps a misunderstanding.

    I agree this is about supporting a team. Well, I’d say a club, not to be pedantic. The regime are entrusted with delivering the best club (or team) as possible. Ashley hasn’t done that.

    It is my opinion, that it’s possible to do both. Support the team, whilst applying pressure on the regime. It is also my held view, that is part of our responsibility as fans of the club. After all, do we not want what’s best for it?

    I don’t need to name previous owners. It’s irrelevant and has no bearing on the here and now. The landscape has changed and whilst other clubs have been taking huge strides forwards, under Ashley, we haven’t. Other than turning a profit (whilst not increasing revenue).

    I agree it’s not about winning. It is about competing though. That’s what we want. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Not familar with people power then? Consume power?

    Grow up? After reading your posts recently, I’d been looking forward to getting older and doing the complete opposite. You do confuse me with your inconsistencies.

    Again, there is no need for this to be a confrontation. You may not see it, but we’re more than capable of having adult discussions.

    Also, it’s worth noting, not a soul is calling for boycotts.

  • 78 lochinvar // May 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    See the Villa fans are still having a poke about banner headlines – perhaps it will be interesting to see what they come up with for their own protests…….that apart maybe all their fans will disappear at 74minutes

    If anyone is going to the match and wants to help their cause how about fixing a banner with:

    Villa Park – Early Lerner Centre

  • 79 jimmysmith // May 4, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    This is a terrible way to end a season. Just plain awful. Exciting, only if you are dim.

  • 80 BandB // May 4, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Bobby,

    My post was in response to Jib, as has been pointed out
    Are you Jib?
    No.

  • 81 Bobbybee // May 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM

    WWSBRD. Don’t be misled by what others say is my opinion. What i say is, it’s your money, spend it how you choose. Boycott? Go to games? Your choice. Boycotters don’t have any effect on my life, so i don’t care what they do. It’s free will. Go on, boycott away. What i don’t like is people telling me i should boycott. I shouldn’t boycott for the same reason they can – it’s my money and my choice. Nobody on this planet gets to tell me what i should or shouldn’t do. I’m a big boy and can make my own mind up. If i ever do decide to boycott, it will also be my choice. I will be boycotting for MY REASONS not anybody elses. It kinda funny that people with the biggest mouths about boycotting, suddenly whine they can’t get a ticket for the spurs game though! People make choices and have to live with them. Again, to be perfectly clear. Boycott if you choose, it’s your life and your money to do with as you see fit. Just don’t call loyal fans who continue to go to support THE FOOTBALL TEAM, as the problem. It’s insulting, apart from being 100% wrong.

  • 82 Ibizatoon // May 4, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Springy…It was probably to do with him being one of a few that occasionally offered something. Although it was rarely in defense 🙂

    I don’t mind Dummett, but not sure he’s the long term answer. I hope Jib is right and Jetro Willems arrives in the summer.




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