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FIrst Newcastle Player To Leave Is Confirmed

9:28 am, Sunday, May 8th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 112 Comments

We will have quite a large number of players leaving Newcastle this summer – some of them who are simply failed recent  signings, who should never have been brought to Newcastle in the first place.

Two of those players are currently on loan at Marseille – Remy Cabella and Florian Thauvin – and they cost us around £22M.

They are examples of poor signings made by Chief Scout Graham Carr, who may even retire this summer.

Remy Cabella

Remy Cabella while at Newcastle

There are reports out of France that Marseille will definitely trigger the clause in his loan contract that will make Cabella a Marseille player come July 1st – when the summer transfer window officially opens.

The amount is said to be €8M – which is about £6.3M.

Newcastle really have to change their failed recruitment policy and stop bringing in untested players from France, who take at least a season to adjust and then all too often don´t make it at the Premier League level.

Manu Riviere is another one who we signed recently and is a bust – and we are not even going to mention Yoan Gouffran, Gabby Obertan and Sylvain Marveaux.

Graham Carr has been mainly responsible for wasting money on those French players, with guidance from owner Mike Ashley.

Mike Ashley is good at one thing – finances – and he should be looking at the finances for next season when we are again in the Championship with severely reduced revenues – about £100M less than we would get if we were still in the Premier League.

We should be able to rake in quite a bit of money from players who will leave the club this summer and that money  could see us through next season,  when hopefully we can be promoted back to England´s top league – the most popular sports league in the world.

Clubs like Lazio and Inter-Milan are both said to be interested in Florian Thauvin, so we could also get a decent deal for him and get some of our money back.

But Newcastle will lose money on both Remy Cabella and Florian Thauvin this summer.

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112 responses so far ↓

  • 1 job // May 8, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    remy cobbella……….
    dross oot

  • 2 The overrated Frenchman // May 8, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Cabella, Riviere,Thauvin, Saivet – Carr really had his snout in the trough with those signings. His last big pay-day. And was Charnley guilty of being part of the scam or just clueless in signing the cheques? We’ll never know I guess.

  • 3 Dennis Twice // May 8, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

  • 4 JP...from The Rock // May 8, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Newcastle United should change the club name to Depression United, it suits the club much more.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    ToF,
    It beggars belief that it has been allowed to carry on, but money was made on Cabaye and Debuchy and Tiote almost so at an outside glance through broken spectacles in the dark it might have appeared to be working. The fact that every other player bar possibly Perez and Colback because he was free will be sold at a loss.

  • 6 Oleg G // May 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    If we will get to the last game of the season and without even a mathematical chance of staying up, the fans should use that game to beg Benitez to stay.

    Cheer for him in the end of the game, sing his name.

    He did everything possible to help.
    Didn’t have enough time and still did great.
    Turned some players around.

    So if anything, fans should say thanks to him and show him that he is welcome and loved already.

  • 7 lochinvar // May 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    JPfromtheRock
    So right
    How about ” I can’t believe it’s not a football club ” ( anymore )

  • 8 one fine day // May 8, 2016 at 10:06 AM

    24 hours ago was looking forward to staying up and what be with Rafa sorting us next season .
    Only nufc can give this almighty kick in the @@@locks on such a regular basis .
    Turn on TV and even here in aus it’s showing boro going up ,mackums / unwashed celebrating and of course Leicester ( you know one of those teams like us who should have been just happy to be in the same league as the big boys etc etc) winning the league.
    Happy days
    Thanks Ashley , charnley ( do the decent thing before the spurs game please)
    Carr
    Moncur
    Beardsley all need to go.
    And you all should be fired before the non playing staff whose jobs you have lost for them

  • 9 lochinvar // May 8, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    I have heard from good sources that Rafa loves the fans, the City and the club’s potential. His family although based on Merseyside also appreciate that Rafa and them are respected and there is little intrusion on their family life where’s as in Merseyside, Manchester and London you are subject to banal scrutiny from press and wannabe fans who have little understanding of basic respect and good manners.
    Class always rises to the top – here’s hoping.

  • 10 toon kk // May 8, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Such a shame we’ll be relegated, feeling quite depressed about it tbh but I knew it was coming, really bad the reality of it though. But We’ve played all season without a striker or it seems like it.

  • 11 toon kk // May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Tiote said that they were more than warriors they were fighters, didn’t see much evidence of that yesterday.

  • 12 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    Sad fact it maybe better being relegated before next Sunday and as someone said make it a party atmosphere for Benitez.

    Don’t think I could go through 90 minutes of edge of seat watching a huffing puffing TOON hanging on hoping for a goal and the Mackems losing

  • 13 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    The one thing Managers at a new club rarely get is time , the pressure is on from the getgo ( just ask Steve McClaren ).
    Rafa seemed to have hardly entered the Bernebeu and his fellow Madrileños were howling for his sack !
    The 48 games of the Championship plus the 3 transfer windows of season 2016/17 would be a perfect opportunity to build a good squad with the right playing qualities and team spirit.
    If in twelve months we were going back to the PL as champions of the second tier it could be a great start to what we’ve all been waiting for.

  • 14 midweek weekend // May 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    I only hope Everton can avoid defeat Wednesday it would be horrible to play for nothing on the last day, I guess crazier things have happened and the mackems are away to Watford could be a tough game, but make no mistake Everton were poor yesterday against Leicester and most play better or even the mackems would win by 3-4.

    If we could hang on to rafa and and bring in the right players we could probs pis the championship but if rafa goes the whole atmosphere and gloom and doom would of truly set in and if they next coach is uninspiring like pearson then we could be lost in the lower leagues for years to come.

    Everton must Win on Wednesday night martinez must win or be sacked so they may try time will tell

  • 15 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Hopefully he gets a reaction on Wednesday

    http://www.90min.com/posts/3181981-roberto-martinez-furious-with-his-everton-players-after-defeat-to-leicester-city

  • 16 NoahJ // May 8, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Carr has a good reputation because he signed three or four good players in a row, which made people sit up and take note (e.g. tiote, cabaye, Cisse (when he was incredible), debuchy).

    His signings since this golden period have been abysmal including, but not limited to:

    Luuk de jong
    Remi Cabella
    Gabriel Obertan
    Sylvain Marveaux
    Romain Amalfitano
    Flaurian Thauvin
    Yoan Gouffran
    Emmanuel Riviere
    Facundo Ferrerya
    Seydou Doumbia

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Why cite Steve Mclaren? He told us the season started in October. He even asked to be judged after ten games. They should have looked at our league position after those ten games and took him for his word.

  • 18 nufc 11 // May 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Seems like it was an all mighty fight for ma to ok the signing of rafa in the first place with a yes man MD what do you expect they left macca sink to bottom before pulling the plug if only before the la manga trip rafa was brought in wed be fine now. Ifs and buts we can only move on now wouldn’t be was bothered about relegation if rafa stays this time next year we will be a force make it right Mike and give rafa what he wants to make the club whole again.

  • 19 midweek weekend // May 8, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    @jail

    Hanging on to Steve is whats killed us rafa needed more time and we would of won against Norwich and Sunderland and be planning for next season now useless owner who employs a useless board is why we are relegated

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Midweek,
    Can’t see a team that managed to come from behind twice not being able to get two points against two teams with absolutely nothing to play for. We had five games that were very winnable and two that were must win when Rafa took over. We won two of them and neither were the important ones, this has been our recent undoing.

  • 21 lesh // May 8, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    If Rafa’s to stay, he’ll no doubt want assurances from Ashley – for what they’ve proved to be worth – that he’ll have control of player recruitment and all matters football.

    However, Rafa’s been shown to be high-maintenance in that he’ll expect big spending on players. I can’t see him accepting having to run the show on bargain basement players. There lies a problem.

    The FFP rules will dictate the amount of money available for transfers and wages so where will it cone from? Given that Charnley and Carr wasted over £80m over thus season, I’d presume that any cash reserves that had been built up over the austerity years has gone.

    So, where would any substantial funds come from to comply with FFP? Can we expect SD to pay Ethiad levels of advertising money? Something tells me that’ll be a non-starter. Would selling players raise enough to cover the costs of the type of players Rafa might want? Unlikely and if high-value players are sold, what are they to be replaced by without breaking FFP rules?

    All in all, Ashley’s stupidity and shortsightedness has cost us dear and we can only hope that he rethinks his Club structure and model and dumps it. Furthermore, he’ll need a forward-thinking, football savvy MD to work closely with whoever’s got control over player movements.

    Sadly, it was obvious months ago that relegation was waiting to hit the Club, however, those who have caused the damage clearly ignored the signs and appointed Rafa far too late.

    Another chapter in Ashley’s new book of corporate management – how to miss out on millions without really trying.

  • 22 midweek weekend // May 8, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Yeah jail

    Unfortunately we’ve simply blown it as others have said we just need to wait and see now if rafa is staying or not and focus on the let’s be honest the much needed rebuild, so many players need to leave it’s ridiculous, we need to sign players who can fight and have the heart for it interesting summer window this no matter what division were in

  • 23 reilly // May 8, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    this is 1 massive cluster fk that will not be sorted out over the summer.
    look how long it takes the club to do anything.
    next season should be all about steadying the ship in the championship.and not falling through the trap door.

  • 24 Blackley and Brownlie // May 8, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    “My door”, said Ashley. He’s the man to blame now it has all gone wrong. And it has gone stupendously wrong. Ignominious failure and scores of millions of pounds burnt on a bonfire. Any idea that the club will recoop much in the firesale is fanciful.
    The only players worth keeping from that lot are Lascelles, Dummett, Darlow, Elliott, Mbabu and Townsend.

    Ashley was bolting the horse to the cart in order to win something. In terms of the top ten haunting rants, his outburst at the end of last season goes straight to number one, shoulder barging into the stands Keegan’s “I would love it if we beat them” rant.

    And now the muppet has said it’s no good coming to him because you’ve had the money and spent it. His door’s shut. He’s at home but he’s not answering.

    You couldn’t make it up. A complete disaster. All predicted by the more knowlegeable fans and well seasoned followers of this special club. All falling on the arrogant Charnley’s deaf ears.

  • 25 lesh // May 8, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    NUFC 11

    Surely Rafa only arrived because of Ashley’s intervention? Charnley wouldn’t have had the wit or the balls to even think about appointing Rafa. It was clear long before Christmas that McLaren had to go but no, Charnley and his props (that’s Carr and Moncur) would continue to believe that McLaren would turn things around.

    Again, the fans could see the writing on the wall but those in control of the Club either couldn’t or more likely, wouldn’t.

  • 26 Mister Tuff // May 8, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    If we are relegated on Wednesady – with nothing to play for – the spurs game would be an opportunity to protest.
    Might hear another Tubbs statement via Bishop – designed to fool Geordie – which it will – promising the world.
    If Rafa stays – dont think he will though – mr Tubbs and Penfold will be heralded by Geordie – as having done the right thing -and will be supported – not chased oot of Toon.
    So no changes will occur – they might retire Carr.

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    lesh,
    There really isn’t anyway of knowing what he’s got planned. For years people were convinced he wanted success here despite him making it obvious that he didn’t. People talking about him having Damascus moments and saying he’s turned a corner, if McCardew had us in Bournemouths position he’d be delighted. My only hope was that if Rafa had of kept us up that it would have been absolute madness to screw him over the way he did KK and it may well have been the last straw for many. No, I think Ashley will do what he thinks is right next season, and that thinking hasn’t really worked out well over the ladt nine years.

  • 28 Ron Knee // May 8, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    We should brace ourselves for the return of Llambias – or someone of that ilk. It’s unlikely that the parasite will entrust the “rebuilding” to Charnley alone. I can’t see Carr surviving this.

  • 29 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 10:56 AM

    If (when) we get relegated on Wednesday the club need to clarify Benitez’ position before 1500 Sunday 15th May.

    No “I’ll think it over on my summer hols ” crap.
    Everyone needs to know exactly what is happening before – windows , summer tours , and preseason.

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    Jib,
    Do you honestly think that they’ll announce that he’s moving on before the Spurs game. KB will be preparing Churnleys statement for release on the following Wednesday.

  • 31 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    When the TOON are confirmed relegated ….
    They finish second bottom they are predicted to get £72.3 million for the season.

    Plus

    They would receive the first of three parachute payments. In year one, the club receives 55% of the equal share of broadcast revenue paid to Premier League clubs and in year two, 45% of the equal share and in year three 20% which could equal around £70m+ over three years

    Plus they should recoup £50 million in transfers.

    They should be able to build a decent Championship Team to get us back up

    If not then we are knackered

  • 32 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Jail

    I could have cited Vahid Halilhodzic.

    I probably cited SM because he was Rafa’s predecessor.

    😛

  • 33 toon22 // May 8, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    Regardless of what happens this season imho if the fat mans ever going to sell the club its this summer.

  • 34 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    Jib’s right.
    IF we get relegated on Wednesday, Rafa’s position will be all anyone wants to talk about. It will be a circus.
    Best put it straight.
    The distraction might help them in the short term. But it will make things worse the longer it goes on.

  • 35 Rotonda heights // May 8, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    Ashley defines the expression ” after the horse has bolted” If it wasn’t us suffering too, it couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke.

    Karma in a way for all Ash’s mis-deeds, apparently he’s lost 1 billion this year and now TV millions. Owned by Ash, ran by Charnley and Carr, sponsored by Wonga, R.I.P NUFC.

    Think best bet moving forward is Cathro and bringing on all the decent youngsters. Sadly it will revert to someone like Llambias as MD, but even Ash must surely bin Charnley, Carr and hopefully Wonga. Even better, find a buyer and end this whole rotten turgid affair.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Charlie,
    It’s frightening to think what could happen. He has to fund a promotion bid or effectively kill us off if he wants his money back. If he can manage to sell them he might get 30M for our top earners, collect the parachute payments and then fold us, he will definitely do what’s best for him ratber than the club and its fans.

  • 37 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    Rotonda

    Charnley already has a nice little rebuilding project on Strawberry Place to keep him busy.

  • 38 Nufc-83 // May 8, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    Lochivor I live very very lose to Rafa and I can assure you he will never leave caldy on merseyside and there is not this major attention on him as you suggest.

    On another note the best thing we could do is promise Rafa a chance to build the club from bottom up and make it his own. We should if remotely possible get Townsend out on loan (he will never play in champ) tell him he will be a big part of our future in the prem. Get rid of all the useless cnts like sissokho, gini, cisse etc

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    Personally I think Stuaert Pearce will be brought in to oversee our demise. He ticks all the boxes, English, managed in the PL and Championship before and might have won a manager of the month award in the past. But most importantly he is desperate for a job, he has said complementary things about Mikey in the past and being a former plsyer should be well liked and respected by fans, just like Beardsley and Moncur.

  • 40 Rotonda heights // May 8, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    I think yesterday showed when we couldn’t beat the worst team in the league home or away that carr is hugely culpable.

    I’m sorry I’m just not sold on Mitro at all, no pace or mobility to get round the pitch and the amount of clear cut, not even half chances he misses for a premiership striker is ridiculous.

    Colback frequently loses the ball and then does daft fouls in front of the ref trying to amend.

    Wijni really has become the invisible man.

    What really kills us is the complete lack of a pacey striker, what the hell was the deal with Doumbia, this season’s Ferryra!

    The really ironic thing is that we look far more solid in defense!

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Nufc-83,
    It would be great if Rafa stayed, can they risk not offering him the chance then trying to gag him to stop him telling us the score. I don’t think he’ll suffer a cleverly worded statement that he walked away if he hasn’t.

  • 42 hibbitt // May 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    its not over till the fat lady sings

    i still think there is a chance only a small chance but none the less a chance
    we ain’t down yet

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Rotonda,
    He had three very good chances yesterday and you’re I don’t think he’s anywhere near the real deal, but he wasn’t bought buy a manager who would know where he’d like to play him and when. He was bought buy a failed system that thought he’d go for 25M after two or three years. Totally unfair on the lad to expect him to be your main man at 21 years of age.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    *you’re right.

  • 45 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Jail
    I don’t know how much the club owes Ashley but all added up looks like the club could get about 150 million + the club were £32 million in profit for the last financial year – is that around about how much we owe him.
    Could take his money and let the club sink or swim on what ever it brings in.

    The worst scenario

    as I cannot see anyone buying us.

    Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    By the way is there any club own by the city/municipality they play in ???

    Would be canny the City owning the club

  • 46 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    You want to see the future?
    Take a wander with me and 6,000 new Chinese university students through the water features and bars of St James Plaza, past The Jackie Milburn Hall of Residence and the Alan Shearer Science Centre, before taking the Metro to the new 30000 seater stadium at Cramlington.
    We are living in a new age of castle construction. These days they are made of tinted glass to keep out prying eyes and they are full of money.
    None of it ours.

  • 47 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    We ain’t down yet.

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    Charlie,
    The club has only been in profit because of the huge TV deal, I honestly can’t even come close to trying to figure out what he has planned and I doubt they’ll let us know either. Nobody I have asked has a clue why he wanted Rangers so much either. We are no use to him outside of the PL so does he sink or swim?

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Who owns the ground?

  • 50 banjax // May 8, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    I would expect Mike Ashley to had the sense, especially after picking unfit personnel to run his club and spend his money, to have prepared by now for relegation by using professional football advisers. In other words planning should be in place now. Hopefully he has made Rafa Benitez an offer he can’t refuse by now to stay with Newcastle, and if not, he has top class manager already lined up for the job. The biggest lesson for Mike Ashley though has been his own arrogance for believing he could Buck the tried and tested ways of Professional Football Clubs and how they operated. Clubs like Liverpool, Man U, who invest in top quality Academy’s for the future along with a effective scouting network to identify ready made quality players to bring straight into the squad. But perhaps the biggest mistake M A could make would be to stick with same management at the club who have cost him £millions in lost player transfer fees and even more money lost through relegation. My guess is that he will stay at Newcastle for the medium long term because his personal losses would be greater than if he tried to get out now. As he said earlier – he is unfortunately married to the club- and the longer Newcastle linger in the Championship the more money he loses. Unless of course some daft moneybags comes along and offers him £400m. Dream on !

  • 51 Bambams // May 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    JFA

    If Rafa does go I totally agree Pearce could be the manager they turn to.

    Pearson I don’t think will come back.

    Harry has not worked for a while and you never know his offshore dog account might be getting low.

    I hear Steve McLaren is out of work
    “RULE NOTHING OUT WITH THESE CLOWNS”

  • 52 hibbitt // May 8, 2016 at 11:52 AM

    Jail for Ashley

    it’s owed by the freeman and managed by the city and is part of the town moor i believe

  • 53 Hail Wor Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    Those clinging to Rafa will be in for a shock when Steve Bruce is announced. Unhappy with the situation at Hull and all the off field problems they have, growing contingent of Hull fans unhappy with him as they feel they should have walked the league.

  • 54 ashleysmate // May 8, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    Eh? Ashley plan ahead??? Good idea but why would he do that now…he hasn’t done so in the past

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 11:59 AM

    Steve Bruce knows exactly what the fans think of him. They’ll either go with Cathro or a failed ex PL manager and I think that will be Stuart Pearce.

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    The mackems go in to Wednesdays game not only knowing that a win will keep them up but send us down as well. Very sad i deed.

  • 57 posada // May 8, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    The perfect Nightmare.

    Big Sam the manager he sacked stays up.
    Chris Hughton the manager he sacked will probably come up.
    Pardew stays up.
    The Boro pass us on the way up.
    We take the drop for Sunderland.
    Leicester demonstrate to Ashley what can be done.
    Danny Simpson who was considered not good enough wins the title with them.

    Is MA being paid back for some terrible deed ?

  • 58 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    hibbit,
    So there’s no way he could tear it down and build student accomodation?

  • 59 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    Jail

    The superstructure is owned by the club and the acreage is administered by the Ciry Council on behalf of the Freemen of the City.
    As was the land at Strawberry Place, for which planning permission has been submitted.
    The City Freemen are men. Not Saints. The council is strapped for cash and struggling to keep street light son and empty the bins.
    I think the NUST website says the freehold for Strawberry place could be available for £800,000.
    The University is sucking millions of pounds each year into the city from its ever expanding appeal to well-heeled foreign students and therefore calling the shots in the city.
    That ground is built in a damned inconvenient place for those with a licence to print money.

  • 60 posada // May 8, 2016 at 12:06 PM

    My prediction.
    Rafa will go.
    He was a last desperate throw of the dice by a gambler.
    Then be prepared for anything when the lunatics once again take over the asylum.

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    BandB,
    Jeezus Christ, I don’t think it costs much to build a stadium like the stadium of plight £23M in fact. A move to Cramlington for a cost of 25M and build enough student housing and hotels on the vacsted land for ten times that.

  • 62 posada // May 8, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    Very fearful now for NUFC.
    I won’t say club as we are not one at the moment.
    The 80 million wasted is just the start.
    Mitro, Thauvin and about another half dozen others are complete duds.
    Will never get the money back and they will sit on big wages for the next 5 years, just like Ober and Marv.

  • 63 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    Jail

    I’m not saying it will happen.
    It’s just another scenario beyond the “well, there’ll still be football to watch and the pubs will still be open” attitude to relegation.

  • 64 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM

    morning . well not the result we wanted yesterday and chelsea were dreaming of the ‘ caribe’ when normally it would have been a nailed on 3 points for thye blues,
    .
    Its made it very difficult now and its thrown my super six down the swanny-but all is 100% not finished , not by a long way,
    looking at sunderlands games this season there is a pattern there as to when they they had their little good splells and their bad,
    The last few games have deffinatly ran in their favour,
    the draw at at stoke , 95th minute pen which was never a pen for my money , yesterdays game against the tourists was a bitter blow but nevermind the scum caught chelsea on the best day they could have imagined- still nearly got beat though .
    We havnt played well all season . these last 5 games the football has been pathetic specially the first 45.maybe we had to play like that to grind a result out but neverthe less noy very pleasing on the eye,
    Yesterday was the first game in 5 it didnt go to plan – sunderland are due that same blip.

    Everton might sound an easy game – for some reason, but i beleive that is where sunderland s little run comes to a shuddering stop, might not get beat but they wont take the 3 points they need . they know one little slip up and we will be ready to take full advantage of a home game against a team – well half a team who are already packed for their jollies.
    Sunderland go to watford . now really would you fancy our chances of staying up if we had to win at watford ? i wouldnt .id rather have a home game against anybody than to have to travel on the last day.
    Sunderlands luck has got to run out, if they are so good then why are they down the bottom with us? weve had our blip now it is their turn . there are always going to be ups and down – twists and turns right up untill the final day . this is not finished yet.
    So ive had to edit my predictions a little but it still makes sence that we can still be in the prem next season.

    ,,,,……….
    stuart no9 // May 2, 2016 at 10:54 PM

    ,,,,4 down – 2 to go
    6 stuart no9 // Apr 23, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    stuart no9 // Apr 19, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    2 stuart no9 // Apr 15, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    stuart no9 // Apr 11, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    we are not down yet ,
    3 poinrts v swansea
    1 point v city
    1 point v liverpool
    3 points v palace
    1 v villa
    3 v spurs coz leicester have won the title,
    another 12 points will be enough to keep us up on 37 points
    AND raffa stays
    dont think 3 points v everton is a forgone conclusion . it isnt.

    Of course we can still do it

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    If he tries to buy the lease on SJP it’s not to save on ground rent.

  • 66 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    As I said Jail, the city is closing schools and libraries and struggling to keep the lights on. It has a crisis in elderly care. It will make practical choices.

  • 67 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    If the scum slip up against the Toffees it will make for some atmosphere at SJP on Sunday !

  • 68 Rotonda heights // May 8, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    posada

    many i should think and he’s taking us with him

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Ashley should contact the Everton and Watford players and offer the services of his yacht for the summer.

  • 70 gaz 44 // May 8, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Hey ho at least now I’ve moved to Yorkshire I can get to a few more games, I can get to l the Leeds, Sheffield, Rotherham, hull, Huddersfield, possible Bradford/Barnsley

  • 71 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Cramlington
    Who the F88k would want to see the TOON playing at Cramlington – not me couldn’t be arsed. Wouldn’t get 30,000 on a good day.

    TOON in the TOON got great advantage on other clubs – central – all routes lead into the TOON.

    Oh I forgot money talks in these days…
    It will come like USA when someone buys a club as a franchise.
    ie Buys the TOON then moves it to Bristol

  • 72 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    jib. and what is stopping that from happening ? in fact it would not surprise me one little bit if they get a good hidi ng off a team who owe their manager big time.

    The scousers , be it liverpool or everton still have pride in how they play football , is this the game where they just return to decent form, with the players they have they are well capable of beating sunderland on wednesday night . Villa proved it yesterday , they dug in defended well , keeper made a game saving save. and were not going to get beat . scum still have it all to do.

  • 73 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    I just plucked Cramlington out of the air Charlie.
    It could be Chester-le-Street …….or……. Washington.
    I doubt it would happen. It isn’t on the table.
    Just me letting my feeble mind wander…

  • 74 Mister Tuff // May 8, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    BandB -Jeanne d’Arc -The Maid of Orléans I believe heard voices in her head and later got a roasting (literally) for her troubles.
    Rallying the troops is a fine thing but maybe too late to win the battle.
    (NB. I am not advocating treating you to a stake dinner)

  • 75 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    Eeee Tuff

    I never thought of that like……..

  • 76 Ibizatoon // May 8, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    BandB…It may not be on the table (Perhaps it’ll be a special item on the menu at some stage?), but then again, neither is the idea that he’s stuck with us.

  • 77 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    GAZ 44 @ 70 ——- didnt know you were a mackem mate.!

  • 78 Ibizatoon // May 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Ed…”reports out of France” and “confirmed” are two entirely different things…as we all know oh too well.

  • 79 Mister Tuff // May 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Massive if but if the Mackems do slip up on Wednesday evening – it would be some game at SJP this weekend.

  • 80 Mister Tuff // May 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM

    BandB – I’m sure you know her history fine – just my device as suitable vehicle for a decent gag.
    you missed it didn’t you steak/stake.
    come on confess.

  • 81 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    I will Tuff.
    But I’ll recant later.

  • 82 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    the problem as we all know is that little sh’te defoe , keep him quiet and they are f@@@ed .

  • 83 Ibizatoon // May 8, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Stuart…That’s the problem though, we all know that, yet…

    Not much confidence in Everton at the minute, but that means nothing. Not many had confidence in Villa either.

    Other results will be what they are, we need to win against Spurs. That has to be the focus.

  • 84 SPRINGY // May 8, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    afternoon all
    still got my heed up my arse with the lack attacking fight yesterday and how this has all panned out….the mackems have our clubs destiny in there hands….not good,still have a flicker of hope defoe pulls a hamstring in training,cattermole gets sent off for a professional foul in the first minute and everton win 6-0 nowt….i can dream cant i??

  • 85 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Ibizatoon

    We beat Spurs at Spurs, because like Chelsea yesterday, they didn’t kill us off.
    We are always in with a chance against teams that don’t kill us off, and we have tended to do better against the better teams.
    It is also a shop-window game, and some of the players may stir themselves.
    Spurs are not invulnerable. And Sunderland aren’t home and hosed.
    I always think if the fans think we have turned corner, the players think they have too. And they switch off.
    And the reverse may work.
    So come on you self-serving good-for-nothings. We don’t think you gave it your best shot and failed.
    We expect you to get us out of this.

  • 86 Graeme // May 8, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    In the days of Sir John Hall, there were plans drawn up to move NUFC out to beside the Metro Centre. It was given approval by the local Council and then used to force the City Council to approve the expansion of SJP, to what it is today.

    Nothing is impossible, especially relocating NUFC out of the City.

  • 87 Ibizatoon // May 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM

    BandB…I’m not sure what I can do to get us out of this, but I’ll give it a go 🙂

    I agree. The opposite of what should happen tends to be what comes around. Not that I want people get excited of course. That’s the complete opposite of the plan.

    Shame Jonas won’t be around the place this time. Who knows, this could have been Obertans turn.

    Sorry, my sarcasm isn’t helping things.

    It isn’t over yet.

  • 88 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    And before I go, can just give a big shout-out to Sir John Hall, who took the money and ran once Abramovitch hit the scene.
    Geordie Nation eh?
    How is that coal baron’s pile you holed up in?

  • 89 SPRINGY // May 8, 2016 at 1:06 PM

    BandB
    the players have had ample chance to get us out of this…villa….home and away
    the mackems home
    norwich away
    bournemouth home
    stoke home
    watford home
    there were other games as well,against better opposition where they could of done more…..just not good enough….its to late now….the daft thing is,the mackems could lose against everton and watford,would u be confident of newcastle beating spurs to save themselves,they have shown non of that in all those other games.

  • 90 Jail for Ashley // May 8, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Ashleyout.com saying there’s a storm coming?

  • 91 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    BandB
    agree with you about hall and Shepherd – hate them more than Ashley.

    In my eyes those two screwed the club up when we were top by floating the TOON then taken their wad each season buying warehouses to store the merchandising in and charging rent – wouldn’t piss on the pair if they were on fire

  • 92 Ron Knee // May 8, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    I suppose we’ve all seen this?

    “Newcastle midfielder Jack Colback is being investigated over allegedly breaking betting rules, according to reports.”

  • 93 SPRINGY // May 8, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    ron knee
    nar never seen it mate is there a link?

  • 94 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    I don’t think Jack would do something that stupid Ron.
    Not when he knows he’s going to be penalised for it…..

  • 95 SPRINGY // May 8, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    ron knee
    found it mate,sounds like he could be in a bit shite there if found to be true

  • 96 Ron Knee // May 8, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    BandB/SPRINGY

    According to The Mag:

    “Amongst those carrying the news are the Guardian, they say that Jack Colback could now face FA charges, although it is understood that the claimed bets weren’t on any match which involves Newcastle United’s struggle against relegation.”

    Does that make a difference? I don’t know the rules on betting.

  • 97 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Ron

    The penalties if found guilty are eye-watering.

  • 98 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Ibiza— ill tell you what you can do , you can get off your arse , get on that plane away fron that son of a bitch sundrenched island away fron them scantilly dressed sunbathing females and get back in the toon to a workin g mens club for a pint of best.
    then get up to SJP and join in the atmosphere. who knows ? you might decide to stay and kick ibiza into touch , just imagine — doncaster – hull–blackburn – rotherham ..its a no brainer really . naa only kidding were not going down

  • 99 acuna // May 8, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CZZvRhtnWc

    Just about sums things up

  • 100 lesh // May 8, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Charlie

  • 101 Ron Knee // May 8, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    BandB

    I didn’t know Townsend had been banned.

  • 102 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Ron

    Some background on Colback.

    http://www.footballinsider247.com/newcastle-news-colback-in-fa-betting-probe/?

    It is an allegation of an allegation. So be careful with it, chaps.

  • 103 BandB // May 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Oh…you’ve seen it….
    I vaguely remember it was a big ban at first, and then it was cut.

  • 104 stuart no9 // May 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    ron knee @92—– he must have had a few grand on himself not to score testerday then . My granny who sadley died in 1978 would have bust the f”’ing net with that one

  • 105 lesh // May 8, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    Charlie

    The City’s struggling with the horrendous cuts placed on it by Osborne who’s doing all he can to screw non-Tory authorities into the ground.

    Can’t imagine the City even considering ownership of the Club – nice idea but…..

  • 106 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 8, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    lesh
    not going to happen – I would like to see it!!!!
    better than business men who have no link to the City and don’t give a S*it as long as there is money and Kudos owning a football club.

    And all people living in the TOON could become shareholders with paying their poll tax.

    I can only dream

    Lesh do you know if any club anywhere is owned by the city/munincipality

  • 107 lochinvar // May 8, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    So Colback is alleged to have had some interest in Spanish games but nothing is substantiated so the lad is clearly innocent unless the FA investigate and find some irregularity. That’ll be the same FA who have done nothing to investigate the quality of the decision making of so many officials this season . When will they introduce the TMO scenario ?
    And Ashley apparently likes a bet in the casino – wonder what odds he got on the various outcomes of this season ?

  • 108 Jib // May 8, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Rubin_Kazan

  • 109 lesh // May 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Charlie

    A quick look at Wiki shows a few lower league clubs as being owned or part owned by supporters trusts or fan groups. Couldn’t see any with any local authority stakeholdings though.

    Be patient, NUFC’ll be the first to be taken into public ownership when the Geordie Cong liberate our fair city.

    Viva la Toon Army!

  • 110 Toon-Barmy // May 8, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Whoever takes the reigns at St. James Park next season is going to have a real job on their hands. IF indeed we do get relegated, our squad will be unrecognisable next season.

    Seydou Doumbia’s loan will obviously come to an end.
    Gabriel Obertan and Sylvain Marveaux are out of contract and have already been shown the door.
    Steven Taylor is also out of contract and it’s unlikely he’ll be given a new deal, regardless of the division we’re in!
    United also need to decide on new deals for youngsters like Aarons, Mbabu and Woodman.

    Another issue is those players who will only have 12 months left on their contracts come the start of next season. Those players are;
    Coloccini, Krul, Tiote, Anita, Cisse, Gouffran, Dummett, Rivière, Bigirimana, Ameobi & Vuckic. New deals will probably be offered to Krul and Dummett but most of them will probably leave, if we can find someone to take them!

    The next issue is the “high earners”. Players like Janmaat, Townsend, Wijnaldum and Sissoko are unlikely to be playing in the Championship next season.
    The club may decide to keep a few, possibly Shelvey, Perez and Mitrovic? That remains to be seen.

    Remy Cabella is on his way for around £6m, Florian Thauvin will likely follow.
    Other players that have made little impact, such as Siem de Jong, Massadio Haidara, Henri Saivet and Curtis Good are also under the spotlight.

    So after all that hard work we will be left with the following players;
    Krul (If he signs a new deal)
    Elliot
    Darlow
    Lascelles
    Mbemba
    Dummett
    Colback
    Shelvey?
    Mitrovic?
    Perez?
    Plus a few Under 21’s; Armstrong, Sterry, Toney etc.

    Quite a job to do it seems, with possible departures for more than 25 players! Will Rafa Benitez really want to take that on? Unlikely I would say.

  • 111 Mister Tuff // May 8, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    I’m getting the sour looks -now being ordered to do some gardening as it is an exceptionally fine day here.

  • 112 Owldman // May 9, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    Ashley is entirely to blame for the fiasco that has overtaken NUFC.By allowing Carr free reign to sign so many failures, Charnley for allowin the biggest clown of all Carver to stay in the job so long, then to make matters worse, appointing another clown in McLaren, The price of failure at NUFC is to be given a big pay rise as in the case of Charnley.also another interesting note press reports BenArfur is on his way to Barcelona?




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