Heads Should Roll In The Summer – But Don’t Bank On It


There is no leadership at Newcastle with people like Lee Charnley so out of their depth it’s embarrassing to see just how incompetent the man is in his job.

We have been promised a complete review of the season by Mike Ashley – whose nine years at the club have seen Newcastle continue to fall from grace – but we wonder when his review will be completed and those responsible for Newcastle’s latest demise will be held accountable?

If 2009 – the last time we were relegated –  is any guide Ashley may complete that review before the season starts in the Championship in early August.

People running Newcastle can never be accused of having initiative or being decisive.

lee charnley and mike ashley

The “leaders” at Newcastle

Heads need to roll soon, but something tells us that will not happen and maybe even Lee Charnley will be retained.

If that happens we may need to check which teams are in the English third division.

Mike Ashley is said to be loyal to those who work for him, but he may be making the cardinal management mistake of putting loyalty above ability and talent of his people.

Certainly his record at Newcastle suggests that – it’s been simply pathetic and sad was the day he bought Newcastle United.

Premier SeasonPositionNumber of Points
2007-20081243
2008-20091834 - relegated
2010-20111246
2011-2012565
2012-20131641
2013-20141049
2014-20151539
2015-20161837

# Championship
* After 37 games

Our only hope is Rafa Benitez, but the signs are that the 56 year-old doesn’t want to stay at Newcastle – he may have seen the light – the club is rotten and in a complete mess from top to bottom.

Mike Ashley is responsible for that, plus the incompetent people he keeps appointing to lead the club like Lee Charnley and Joe Kinnear and others we wont even mention – like Dennis Wise.

Head coaches like John Carver and Steve McClaren are lower level Championship managers at best – so how did they ever end up managing Newcastle?

And once again the Newcastle fans have been completely screwed – they are the ones who have to deal with the pain, suffering and disappointment and yes – the shame of relegation for a great club.

It will be another long summer (we’ll not say hot since it’s Newcastle)  after the club is again the laughing stock of England.

Things will be at a very low ebb for Geordie fans this summer – the lowest for a long time.

That’s after we will miss out on  a payment next May of between £100M and £180M because of sheer incompetence by those running Newcastle.

Newcastle would have probably got around £140M if we had finished in mid-table in the PL next season – about double what we will get this month.

Clubs like Burnley, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Watford, Crystal Palace, and Bournemouth – all second division  clubs and worse a few short years ago are now richer than we are and in the Premier League.

It’s simply shameful and almost criminal the way the Newcastle club has been destroyed.



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82 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #1

    Charnley wants to be put in stocks and driven to every town in Tyneside, Northumberland and Durham accompanied by a truck full of rotten fruit.

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  • stuart no9

    May 9, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #2

    2 stuart no9 // May 9, 2016 at 9:54 AM

    from previous topic —— what you on about ed ” raffas parting words” stop being so dramatic.
    stuart no9 // May 9, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Ed — i apologise for this but you nare starting to talk complete ball cocks., for one , the season is not finished we still have 1 game to play WE ARE NOT DOWN YET.
    Two, harp on about raffa leaving , he has said nothing about leaving since hes been here and where is he going to go ? and why? going to a bigger club for CL success ?? hes done that , won that , got the t shirt , where is the ambition in that ? there is none . His ambition is here at newcastle . IF IF IF we go down he will get more pleasure in turning us into a force again than going to a club where if he dosnt win the CL hes fired.
    The fans wont be as lovable at any other club than newcastle and that will make work a lot more pleasurable than anywhere in europe,
    So stop fretting ED you sound like a scared schoolboy,
    First of all , lets see how sunderland get on on wednesday . One step at a time eh. thankyou.

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  • stuart no9

    May 9, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #3

    I can only see raffa leaving foer the spanish job .
    i can understand that , untill he does , he is manger of NUFC

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  • magscar

    May 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #4

    magscar // May 9, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Alright so things don’t look good but it isn’t over and there is one scenario that could just play out and make us smile – no whoop and cry for joy!

    If Mackems don’t beat Everton they go to Watford needing to win (or draw if they managed a point at home). We need to win but if all that pans out what a blow to them and unbridled joy for us.

    Man City experienced the lows and highs of becomng last minute PL champions with a last minute win a few seasons ago when Man U thought it was in bag for them. Would City fans now change the way that panned out notwithstanding the hell they went through or now savour it time and again on recorded media.

    A long shot which will clarify on Wednesday night but something to cling to in this dark week.
    They now think it is all but over but what if they blow it and we snatch it -worth all the pain – you bet .

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  • Jib

    May 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #5

    Magscar
    That would be a great name for a sports gameshow – they think it’s all ov………oh just a mo’

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  • toon22

    May 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #6

    The fact is it really dont matter if we stay up its only going to be the same next year,as has every year but one under MA.
    If you take the average of the table above its 43 ish points,thats exactly what is required of the club from its owner.
    It will be this whole scenario every year while the owner remains.

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  • Sav

    May 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #7

    In your photo above, Charmless seems to be proudly showing off the thumb he’s had stuck up his person all the while Macca was in charge. Rafa has done a great job of showing us just what we’ve been missing and what a bad appointment Macca was, but sadly he hasn’t had time to put it right in time without a miracle this week.

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  • martoon

    May 9, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #8

    I’ve got this horrible feeling we’ll beat Spurs but the makems will scrape 2 draws and we’ll go down on goal difference!

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  • nufc 11

    May 9, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #9

    Patrick Veria was availble last summer and it looked like nufc were after him but in the infinite wisdom they went for the man just sacked in the championship. A meat cleaver and chopping board comes to mind for the man that made that call. If rafa does go maybe Ryan Giggs might be looking for a job or Gary Monk?

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  • Fabricio - out of position - Coloccini

    May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #10

    The most important business this summer is to get rid of Carr.
    Then we can only hope for a better man to give Ashley and Charnley their football knowledge. Carr is way past it!

    We can cross our fingers Ashley gives up fairly quick but I don’t think he will. I think we’ll be “down there” several seasons before he finally does… unfortunately.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #11

    Stuart,
    I think what has got the majority on a downer is the abject couldn’t care less display we seen, like I said if we’d won we’d all be in a defiant backs against the wall type mood and hoping they slip up, if we’d won the pressure would have been huge on them come Wednesday as two points wouldn’t have been enough. We blew it in a display of shite let down again by the same usual suspects.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Gutted about the probable outcome. And we cant realistically expect anything good to happen in summer. Raffa staying is improbable, and the chances of Mash getting a manager who will make us bounce straight back is extremely unlikely. I expect us to be down there for a few seasons, and it will become harder and harder to come back. We may even stagnate into a mid-table championship side for the next decade.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #13

    Fabrio,
    You’re seriously suggesting that the dithering bufoon Churnley is kept in place.

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #14

    @NUFC 11 – think they dodged a bullet in Vieira! Getting pulled apart in MLS for his tactics, constantly plays players out of position etc
    He trys to play a high pressing game with a midfield of late 30 somethings

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  • ToonMatt

    May 9, 2016 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #15

    Nufc 11, I was happy with us being linked with Veira at the start of the season, He’s a young manager and would have been a lot different to the managers we have had in the past, I read Charnley had talks with him but it went t*ts up due to the failed transfer policy that’s in place at the club, Instead we got another cheap yes man in McClaren and we all know what happened there? Charnley should never have been hired in the first place and Ashley has to fire him surely?

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  • davis_toons

    May 9, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #16

    “Clubs like Burnley, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Watford, Crystal Palace, and Bournemouth – all second division clubs a few short years ago are now richer than we are and in the Premier League.”

    It is all this that is hard to swallow.
    Mike Ashley need to make sure Rafa Benitez.

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  • Fabricio - out of position - Coloccini

    May 9, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #17

    Jail for Ashley

    Absolutely not but I’m fed up with Carr as many still defend him. Almost every advice he has given Charnley/Ashley has been awful.

    The biggest problem is Ashley of course. He does what he wants and his foundation is a complete lack of moral compass. That’s why we have Charnley. That’s why we had to endure poor managers and horrible DOFs.

    But yeah… I actually think a better consultant would not hire McLaren. Who would?

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #18

    No way this football board doesn’t get chopped. Ashley may not give a damn about the fans but they’ve just cost him possibly 100’s of millions. Last season they were inept and it got restructured, this season its been worse.
    If he’s sensible he’ll see that Rafa is the route to instant bounce back. He’ll cost, but the prize on offer surely now requires investment? West Ham paid big sam 4M a year with a 2m promotion bonus to get them back up and championship teams have often paid 10m+ for players now

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 9, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #19

    Let’s be honest Ash has only made one good appointment and decision in 9 years and he is probably about to exit stage left.

    Ash is the guy who employed serial goons like JFK, not once but twice, Denis Wise, Llambias etc and panicked and trusted the over promoted teaboy and pensioner with 80m, not to mention ditchung virgin for

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 9, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #20

    ….ditching a respected brand virgin for a scummy loan shark.

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #21

    Uneasy slating Carr has we have no remit to what players he has suggested and been ignored and no idea what advice he gave about the players signed nor the brief he works to.
    I suspect his job is to scout players that will increase in value more so than to sign players that will be a good addition to the team

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 9, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #22

    toon22

    i think you’re way off there. if by some miracle we had stayed up I think with the tv millions , rafa’s contact list and the people we’d flog, rafa would have had a free hand to bring about major change.

    It’s tragic and could only happen to us, finally a real manager and we were already down. The stench of ash will rumble on but what’s new for NUFC fans.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #23

    Which managers are going to be available, and out of those, who would be able get us back to the prem? (Assuming that Mash actually does the unlikely and goes all out for promotion)

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 9, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #24

    jay

    it makes a mockery of the people carr allegedly vets for the PL based on character, fitness, attributes and adaptability though.

    Ok some many not have been his first choices, but we would have been better off buying no one than some of the sh—e Carr has landed us with on long term deals

    Marv – awful attitude
    Haidara – perma crock
    Gouffran – mediocre journeyman
    Riviere – can’t score
    cabella – show pony, no end product
    Thauvin – ditto
    Obi (ok AP’s choice)
    SDJ – perma crock
    Ferryra – never played
    Doumbia – never played
    Wijni – heart of a pea away from home
    Mitro – zero pace, misses so many chances

    The list goes on.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #25

    Rotonda,
    Totally tragic, forced in to hiring a top manager but just too late. Even if McCardew had of scraped a point against Stoke and Bournemouth what made them think he would have gone on to keep them up judging by the amount of times they threw the towel in. Every team has off days but we just gave up in about ten different games, he was clueless

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  • banjax

    May 9, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #26

    At any normal club, there would already be plans in place for relegation, but we are not a normal club. The failed management system that we all voiced opposition to was only partially changed when Rafa was brought in. If Mike Ashley has any sense, he will break the bank to try and keep Rafa and offer him full control of every aspect of player recruitment and that includes the scouting operation and running the Academy to bring in future top players. Ashley has to take this opportunity to gut the club of its deadwood – players and management and rebuild when there is time in the Summer break to do it and for once put all he stupid crap that has gone before into the dustbin of history.

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  • Jib

    May 9, 2016 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #27

    Fabricio – out of position – Coloccini

    I’m pretty sure you were Toonbrother – last Summer you said SM would win us the CL in 2 seasons you are nearly as 2 faced as Jail for Ashley !

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #28

    It is a disgrace what we have become since last January. Carver and Mclaren are easily the two most clueless head coaches we have had, certainly in my living memory. Even JFK in our last relegation season was more tactically savvy, and i still think, had he not took ill, we would have survived. Just.

    Even the boring, mid table mediocre-ball was preferable to the last year and a half, and obviously, mid table means you at least stay up!

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #29

    1 thing i’m certain of, and that is certain players won’t leave because of the money they are on. In some cases this may work to our advantage!
    Riviere for example is a striker that is good enough to get 15 goals in the championship. You get more time and more oppurtunities as a striker in that level. Similarly, we’ve not seen much of Saivet but trust me he is definately good enough for the championship.Ligue 1 is a more similar level to the championship.
    No doubt we’ll see many leave, but alot of our 6/10 EPL players become 8/10 championship players. If we add some experience and leaership into there we have a base to work from.
    reckon whoever is manager will still have these to work with!
    Darlow
    Elliot
    Mbabu
    Good
    Mbemba (i hope, hes young so may stay to develop)
    Lascelles
    Dummett
    Haidara
    Anita (can’t see anyone matching his salary)
    Saivet (can’t see anyone matching his salary)
    Shelvey – already said he stay
    Colback – (geordie,can’t see anyone matching his salary)
    Thauvin (definately can’t see anyone matching his salary)
    Aarons
    Armstrong
    Toney
    Riviere (can’t see anyone matching his salary)
    Gouffran (can’t see anyone matching his salary).

    Added to that, I think Townsend and Perez would be convinced to stay if Rafa stayed but thats unlikely
    Theyre will be money to spend as sales and freeing of the wage bill of cabella and im guessing Cisse, Tiote, Coloccini, Taylor, Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Krul, Janmaat, De Jong and possibly perez and townsend will mean even in the championship the manager will have money to work with.

    Worth remember that the parachute payment is actually worth more than the tv money we got last season so the club won’t be at financial ruin

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #30

    a rumour I heard was that if we go down Mark Warburton may be the man who comes in from Rangers…
    If theres no chance of rafa I could get behind that appointment

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #31

    Saviet is a strange one. He hasnt had much game time, and has looked “ok” during his odd appearance.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #32

    Jay

    Do you think he would have what it takes to get us back up? Its a different ball game to getting Rangers promoted from the Scottish Champ.

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #33

    just to throw a positive spin on things. Last time we went down we stripped the side of the mercenaries. Had a geordie lad upfront (best striker we’ve had in 10 years when we had him) had an english core, won a lot of games, had more tv coverage than we did in the PL!

    For lads that go to games! Theres some proper away days in the championship! None of this prawn sandwich chinese tourist crap you get at Arsenal/man city etc
    Might get laughed at for this but I’m excited about going to proper football games away to the likes of forest, Leeds, etc
    Seen people slate that we’ll be away to burton albion etc but its new places, new passionate opposition fans, been to the pirelli stadium, its small but i loved it, good craic and a throwback to going to games when i was a kid, terraces, atmosphere etc
    if relegation means we see the back of wonga, and the return of 11 players on the field that feel privilidged to play for newcastle then bring it on

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  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #34

    @you couldnt make it up – did an immense job with Brentford too! Nearly got them up and they’ve been dire since he left! Heard alot of good stuff about him from everyone thats been into contact with him, knows the league, is quite renound for beng a principled guy who won’t be pushed about too!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #35

    Jay,
    The trouble is though that there has been no plans for relegation or so we are told. He has to sack the board. He has shown he hasn’t got a clue how to run a football club. He didn’t have a clue what to do last time we went down and tried to sell everyone he could. CH was given the job by default which worked, nothing as his stint as caretaker suggested it would. Giving Cathro the job would be seen as another act of cluelessness. That won’t work again. He pretended to put the club up for sale which bought him time, that won’t work again. His lending the club money was seen as a charitable act by some gullible fans. That won’t work again. He has to make some wholesale changes or the atmosphere will be toxic next year.

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  • Tsunki

    May 9, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #36

    I don’t think there is a more cheering, calming or inspiring photo that can great you as you navigate to the blog than that on up there if the two bloated weebles that have devoured our clubs pride faster than a tray of balti ****ing pies

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  • Tsunki

    May 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #37

    My phone is an illiterate moron in electronic format

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  • Tsunki

    May 9, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #38

    I think the atmosphere will be toxic enough when the players wave cheerily to the fans and we welcome the championship to the sight of Rafa disappearing down the tunnel with his cabin bag in hand after we’ve been striped across the buttocks by Spurs.

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  • Tsunki

    May 9, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #39

    Photo caption –

    “I did wot you said Mr Ashley I really did!”

    “..but…McLaren? Dear oh dear oh dear…”

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  • ROSHAN MAGPIE

    May 9, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #40

    what’s the point of being one of the richest club in Epl and in world when so called smaller clubs spend more than our club it was only these last 2 transfer windows we spent like big club out of all these years under ashley

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