Three Already Gone – These Other Players Can Generate Significant Funds

There needs to be a massive clear-out this summer of players who are simply not good enough for Newcastle.

Whoever the manager is should decide which players are brought into the club and  which ones of the current batch he wants to keep.

As strange as it may seem we may have the basis of a decent side after Rafa has brought the best out of some fringe players like Lascelles, Anita and Dummett and it just shows you what a top class manager can do with the players he has.


Gini Wijnaldum – will leave this summer

Newcastle have already released Gabby Obertan (69 appearances) and Sylvain Marveaux (57 appearances), who were at the club earning good money for a full five years yet played a comparatively few number of games for the club.

The long agreed to transfer of Remy Cabella to Marseille will also happen on July 1st and it’s for €8M (£6.3M).

In fact Newcastle finances will be fairly good and the club will need to reduce the wage bill by definitely offloading the following players

Steven Taylor – out of contract
Sammy Ameobi – out of contract
Haris Vuckic – out of contract
Manu Riviere – £3M
Yoan Gouffran – £1M
Seydou Doumbia – end of loan spell
Fabricio Coloccini -£2M

Assuming we are relegated, which seems almost certain now – these big wage earners will be sold for hopefully the estimated fees shown – maybe more:

Georginio Wijnaldum – £15M
Moussa Sissoko – £10M
Florian Thauvin – £10M
Andros Townsend – £8M – release clause
Papiss Cisse – £3M
Daryl Janmaat – £8M

If those players can all be moved out, then we will have allowed 16 players to leave including Obertan, Marveaux and Cabella – and the wage bill will be cut significantly.

The amount we could take in with those very rough estimates of transfer fees would be around £66M.

Other players who could also be sold include Cheick Tiote (£5M) and Tim Krul (£10M)

So Newcastle should be able to generate some cash in the summer with selling some top players and then the task would be to fortify the squad – but in the right positions.

We have to strengthen the defense this summer and get in a proven and reliable striker – and if he we had done that last summer we wouldn’t be in the position we are in now.

And Graham Carr must not be allowed to choose the players coming in, if he is still at the club.

Which players  leave will depend on who the manager is, but we believe players like Wijnaldum, Janmaat, Sissoko, Thauvin and Townsend will want to get out of Toon and not want to play in the English second division.

If Rafa leaves us as seems expected, it will be interesting to see just how long Newcastle take to appoint a new manager.

Those running the club have never been known for their competence or speed in doing anything and they will likely dither around for weeks and weeks.

As  usual.

152 comments so far

  • stuart no9

    May 9, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #1

    74 stuart no9 // May 9, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Jail—saturdays performance was no different to the last 4 or 5 . then only difference on saturday was we failed to get the goal we normally get to win the game. Colbeck being the guilty party blasted what should have been the winner over the bar . We know chances are few and far between, raffa knows that due to our lack of creativity in the box and a lack of a top goal moocher., we had to take our chance when it came – we didnt . that was our 3 points gone, but the setup was the same , slow start, play a waiting game and change things after the break , hes done that in every one of the last 6 games , it worked coz we took our chance and scored the goal , on saturday we didnt . Things would have looked a lot brighter if we had taken the only chance apart from mitro, which seemed to bounce high and a bit awkward so give him the benifit of the doubt with that one, we had , but i think the performance was typical of the last 5. we can still put this right on sunday obviously only if the macks slip up.

  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #2

    Thought mitros was the better chance as he had time to think, he just made the wrong decision, really with the keeper rushing out he should have gone around him.
    I like mitro, i think he’ll be a good player but for me at the moment he’s no better than someone like chris martin, obviously Mitro will develop but at the moment all he offers is hold up play (which is good to be fair)
    I really do think Armstrong would have offered something different, even just off the bench. If vardy has shown us anything it is that pace is transferable throughout the leagues

  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #3


    Yeah i post the odd comment, although not as much as in the past. Hows life?

    Very relevant songs, but we are trying to make raffa stay, so we probably need more positive suggestions.
    I thought of “Stay with me” – by Rod stewart, but he kicks her out later in the song, so maybe not 😀


    May 9, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #4

    i think thats why cisse was playing to be honest,he has a bit more pace and movement then mitro,i like mitro but it was too big a job for him to do by himself,young player,new team,new league,new country then instant pressure coz we got of to the worst start imaginable,hopefully we see him and arma forging a long term fruitful partnership in the future,the battering ram and the pace.

  • GeordieinOhio

    May 9, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #5

    ED, I disagree with the price tags you have put on those players, and your speculation of them being sold, lets be honest only one of those players has shined and thats Andros Townsend the rest have been worthless, I dont see many clubs offering any more than 5million for any of these players , It would not surprise me if non of these players leave

  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #6

    club have no chance of getting rid of Gouffran or thauvin on the wages they are on! Thauvin has said in france he expects to be at newcastle for a few seasons regardless of where we finish this season.
    Realistically we are probably looking at the following outs and fees
    Krul -5-7m
    Janmaat – 6-8m
    Taylor – 0
    colo – -0
    Tiote -4m
    Townesend -8m release clause
    De Jong -3m
    Sissoko- 8m
    Gini -10-12m
    cabella 6m(gone)
    Cisse – 4m
    Imagine really the club will look to bring in around 50m in transfer fee and shed about 400k p/w from the wage bill.
    They will then in all likelyhood spend about 25m and add around 200k p/w to the wage bill.
    worth noting that this years parachute payment is more than last years tv money so we have a massive advantage over most championship clubs.
    The only team next year i think that will be anywhere near us in the league is Norwich who basically have a slightly better version of the side that walked the championship, will probably lose hardly any players and have experience at that level throughout

  • Bobbybee

    May 9, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #7

    Jay, i thought Mitrovic’s headed chance was the biggest miss of them all. He had time to pick his spot, but although he headed it in the right direction, which left the keeper flat footed, he missed the target by two foot. Heading is his strong point, so how he missed that is beyond belief. It’s the chances we’ve missed all season that’s put us where we are. Arma doesn’t miss sitters. Can’t wait to see him back. 😉

  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #8

    throwing it out there too, mitro is a decent lad, but his family? absolute loons! They’ll have him out of newcastle before next season, i’m fairly sure of that! Their conduct at partizan, and the way they held out for both porto and roma was pretty heavy handed. My guess is they’ll start kicking off for a loan deal in the summer as i doubt many will look to pay much for him


    May 9, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #9

    afternoon bobby


    May 9, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #10

    i think 6-8m for janmaat is a little high but rest,if we get them prices then that will be good business,i expect it may not be s much tbh.

  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 9, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #11

    My worry is that we cant get rid of the deadwood and we end up like QPR with a team going through the motions in the championship

  • hibbitt

    May 9, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #12


    you and i both rate arma very highly
    do you think the club rate him and if they do why have they not brought him back when we are ddesprat for goals

  • BeeGuy

    May 9, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #13

    The worry for me is that there is no one who can organize next season’s team. MA could ask Raffa to be temporary GM to sort out who will replace the ones that were unable to do their jobs. That would be the best thing I can think of in theis case.
    We have to remember that NUFC may not be a prime destination anymore for up and coming players. Stpes have to be taken to make NUFC similar to American small market football clubs like Pittsburgh Steelers or Green Bay Packers. Teams that you never think about as anything but class and carrying on a winning attitude.


    May 9, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #14

    if i may weigh in,i think armas age is his stubbling block,playing such a young kid as a starting striker takes balls and as its been proved mcwally did’nt have any coz his heed would of been on the chopping block had it not worked…plus they had just signed mitro for 12-13m

  • dok - the horrid colonial

    May 9, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #15

    songs for sunday..

    5 minutes alone (with Ashley) – pantera
    monkey business (for lee) – skid row
    balls to the wall- accept


    May 9, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #16

    seriously why people think Townsend will go? theres no clause in his contract its just paper talks, he wont go along with shelvy only if the FAT THIEF decides to cash in

    Players WHo are 100% Staying ( Main Players)

    Elliot, Darlow, Krul(If Only Fatty Decides To Cash His Gone)


    perez,mitro,river(50-50 We May sell Him)

    Rafa -90% to Stay

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 9, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #17

    I know all teams miss golden chances to score but the TOON this season has taken the biscuit.

    Missed chances open goals wrong decisions in front of goal have cost us our Premiership place.

    Off the top of my head I can name the following missed chances to win games:

    1st game of the season Southampton – had a 3 onto 1 break-away to make the score 3 -1 Cisse should of passed but greed got to him.
    2 points dropped

    Man Utd break-away in last minute again Cisse – greed again.
    2 points dropped

    Mitovich open gaol against Everton when score was 0-0 headed wide
    at least 1 point

    De Jong open goal against Aston Villa to make the score 2-0 – headed wide.
    2 points dropped

    Mitrovich – Saturday open goal
    2 poits dropped

    that is 9 points at least

  • Robiatti

    May 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #18

    It’s time to look for the best players we can sign for next year. I’m not as clued up as I used to be on the best players in the championship. Who do you think we should sign for next season?

  • Jib

    May 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #19

    It was Rafa’s decision to leave Adam Armstrong where he was – they met on the Monday afternoon at the King Power before we played Leicester away that evening (Rafa’s first game ) .

  • stuart no9

    May 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #20

    stuart no9 // May 9, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    2 players we have not replaced over the years is , aan shearer and peter beardsley . Peter beardsley spescially coz it seems that long since he played for us but we havnt replaced that kind of box player every team should have. Ok HBA came close but we blew it with him but he hs been the only player regardless if you like him or not that has come close to having a PB type player that can create, Alan shearer goes without saying, we just havnt bought a striker to replace him . Apart from the normal row over CBs , the big problem has been scoring goals . We need a peter beardsley and we need a alan shearer, where we get them from and howmuch they cost is another matter , but until we fill those 2 positions expect another struggle next season

  • Bobbybee

    May 9, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #21

    Hibbett, macca didn’t bring him back because ‘he knew best’. 😉 Rafa made it clear from the start that he wanted to rely on experience to keep us up. The loan move was, in all fairness, going well for the lad and perhaps they thought they didn’t want him having to carry all that responsibility at an early age. The bottom line is, i don’t know, but although i don’t agree, i think i see the logic through the haze. The simple truth is, he’s better than anybody else on the books when it comes to finishing.

  • stuart no9

    May 9, 2016 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #22

    82 stuart no9 // May 9, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    jay —– i think with mitros chance , he still had it all to do , colbecks was a simple , keep it low and its in , abit similar to his effort against liverpool

  • jayphoto

    May 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #23

    @springy – i heard a rumour that janmaat to milan for just under 7m was a done deal.
    Similarly it was mcclaren who decided not to bring back Arma, he showed with his treatment of lascelles and perez that he didn’t really jump at the chance to play younge players. Its possible the club agreed not to recall arma when the loan was extended in january under mcclarens advise

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #24

    I think even your adjusted fees are too much, Gini has not shone at all, is Sissoko not in his last year. SDJ could probably only go back to Holland so will just wait it out as no one can match his wages. Get more than we paid for Jaanmat, his attitude stinks. I’m with Ohio I don’t think any of them will fetch more than 5M and we’ll be stuck with the deadwood we can’t shift.

  • Jib

    May 9, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #25

    Will Grigg from Wigan – scores for fun – only 24 years old – 25 goals from 40 games this season so far.
    Got nothing to do with him being in the Championship or FL1 – some PL side will snaffle him this Summer !

  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 9, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #26

    I read somewhere Sissoko is on near enough 55k a week with us ?!?! He would obviously expect more if he was to move on who is going to give him a wage increase ?

    He will no doubt end up warming the bench at Stoke or Palace

  • JP...from The Rock

    May 9, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #27

    I bet my left nut that Ashley will keep Lee Charnley on board as nothing has happened and he will continue to destroy this club. How daft can Ashley be to even hire such an incompetent director and still allow him to dismantle the foundations further and cost him more millions in the process.

    Nothing will change and Benitez will leave for pastures new and we will keep dreaming of what could have been as we spiral down to oblivion.

    I hate to sound like such a pessimist but in truth I am a realist. This club only goes from bad to worse and my lingering hopes are all but diminished.

    If we fail to survive which is almost confirmed on Wednesday then I will seriously struggle to put up with anymore of this depressing and heartbreaking club anymore.

    Even now I am angry with myself in that I still hold some meagre belief that we might pull off the unthinkable. That by some miracle we;

    1- survive on the final day
    2- or if we don’t that Benitez stays
    3- if he decides to leave that we will do well growing our youngsters like Armstrong, Aarons, Lascelles, Darlow, Mbemba, etc into a formidable force and bounce back up.

    I really hate myself for not being able to let go of this profound love I have for this club, and I am not even a Geordie but I have been through all the ups and downs of this once great club for over 20 years, and I don’t think it is best use of my time and health to take it all so personal as my patience has been drained. It is no longer the same. I am hardly entertained and am mostly stressed and angry at the constant mess this club always finds itself in.

    If in the future I watch Newcastle United if/when we’re down it will be from afar until we someday are back in the promised land and where we belong.

    The incompetence by Ashley and his cronies has been staggering and have killed us, he has toyed and gambled with all of our emotions far too long and I for one will not take it any longer.

    Sorry for my blabbering but I felt I had to get that off my chest somehow. God knows the missus is sick of hearing me talk of this club. You guys are like my priest in a confession. So long mates.

  • LGFUAD21

    May 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #28

    I agree with not bringing Armstrong back.

    Sure he may have offered something different and saved us.

    It couldve also scarred him for life jumping up 2 leagues and then bearing the responsibility of saving us from relegation.

    At least now we have an energised, positive Arma coming into the team at the level he probably should be playing now.

    Get real for a second. I if were to say “We wouldve survived if we had Billy Sharp in the team” what would you all think.

    Sharp has scored 25 goals and 5 assists to Arma’s 20 and 5. That’s the company and level that Arma has played at. Billy BLOOMING Sharp whos previous 3 seasons in the championship have delivered 2(10 Games), 4 (16 games) and 5 (25 games). In fact he’s only ever scored more than 10 goals in 2 of his 12 seasons in the Championship.


    Please take off your Black and White tinted glasses and be real for a second. If Arma were to score 15 goals in 35 games for us in the Championship, that’d be a great achievement given his age.

    He’s got a bright future but we cant be heaving the weight of being our “Saviour” on to him.


    May 9, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #29

    if thats true about janmaat then thats cracking money to be fair,i’ve never heard that like so we’ll see i suppose,mcwally was spineless,not willing to even try the younger players and blindly hoping the older players come good,just goes to prove he was never the right choice for this club in the first place tbh.

  • LGFUAD21

    May 9, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #31

    and for the record.

    I wont be happy unless blood is shed in the boardroom and changing room this summer.

    If i had my way id offer Joey Barton insane money, take out a decent insurance policy and let him go drill Sargent on the team.


  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 9, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #32


    I have to wonder what they base the following comment on…

    “If Newcastle’s relegation is confirmed in midweek, United chiefs will start making swift arrangements for next season.”

    Since when did anyone do anything that could be described as “swift” at nufc, under Mash?


    May 9, 2016 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #33

    when stating about playing youngins,i didnt make myself to clear when having a go at wally i was thinking more along the lines of lascelles and mbabu,in positions we were really struggling in earlier in the season,i did comment earlier saying armas age was why he was’nt playing for us,just think if wally had more balls we might of been safe now.


    May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #34

    where’s that comment from?

  • lesh

    May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #35

    Ok, Ashley’s doing the right thing in making fans think he’ll carry out a review of what went wrong this season. But and realistically, what went wrong’s been patently obvious since Charnley, Carr and to a lesser extent Moncur were handed executive authority to run the Club.

    There’s no need for a formal review as all it’ll do is waste time when a root and branch review of the Club’s more important.

    However, if there is to be any changes at the top, then expect Llambias to be dropped ln us, Charnley relieved of his MD responsibilities – he won’t resign as he’s unemployable after this year’s debacle – Carr to be retained on a consultancy basis and the biggest surprise…… Cathro appointed HC – if be hasn’t been offered a job elsewhere before they get round to making him an offer.

    Ashley must admit his culpability in this disaster of a season by acknowledging he’s the one who’s made the biggest mistake of all – allowing a bunch of incompetents to run the Club into the ground.


    May 9, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #36

    as much as i think we could do with joey barton kickin ass and taking names,ashley would’nt let him walk past the club nevermind give him a job!…i do know where ya coming from though!lol

  • Bobbybee

    May 9, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #37

    I think the point we’re making re Arma is that he wouldn’t miss the chances we’ve been missing – and that’s a fact. He takes more than he misses and we could’ve done with that. His record stands up to any scrutiny. He’s a work in progress, but everything points to him becoming a top striker. I’m not going off a few highlights, i watched all his home academy games – and a few away – and his U21 games. This kid is the real deal and one day we’ll all be singing his praises. Had he not lost his creative players at Coventry, he would have had closer to 30 than 20. Don’t judge him by comparison to Billy Sharp. Arma is a rising star, Sharp missed his chance. Enough said really. 😉


    May 9, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #38

    question mate……can arma play as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 or would he be better in a 4-4-2?

  • Bobbybee

    May 9, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #39

    If – and it is still an if – we go down, then i can see the sense in joey barton. He’s been the catalyst in Burnley going up by completely dominating midfield for them, allowing the rest to go forward. Still got another couple of seasons in him, that’s for sure.

  • LGFUAD21

    May 9, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #40


    Sorry Springy. That wasnt a dig at you or anyone in particular. Just the overall collective suggestion.

    We’re in a very tough situation to bounce back.

    Because of the squad we have, we will lose the starts and be left with the deadwood who wont cope in the Championship for the same reason as they didnt in the Prem – The tempo and rough and tumble.

    That mean we will have to go out and aggressively cherry pick the best of the Championship and League 1 with some keen picks from the lower Prem.

    For example, we’d need to go after someone like Tom Ince to replace Townsend.


    1) The clubs will keep hold of those players because on the face of it Derby look just as likely to go up as we do.
    2) Its a sideways move for the player
    3) The clubs will not want to sell to competition and will charge a premium
    4) The club will push for a Prem seller with all their riches.

    Stability gets your out of the championship, building over time.

    Burnley kept most of their squad intact.
    Boro has been coming for a while
    Brighton has been a longer term project.
    Derby the same.

    Look at other clubs like Forrest who have had no stability and each year get further away from the team that looked like a sure bet title winner 5 years back.

    The same can be said for Cardiff.

    It could be a long ride if we dont get it absolutely spot on.

    Then theres the headache of, if you do get up, how do you cope with having players at the beginning of their contracts still but not good enough for the league. As well as the demoralising effect of casting aside the players that got you there in the first place.


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