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Warning For Newcastle – Club Could Be Down For Years

12:43 pm, Wednesday, May 11th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 53 Comments

– It’s something only Managing Director Lee Charnley can answer, but why was Steve McClaren ever appointed head coach only days after Championship club Derby County had dispensed of his services last summer.

And it gets worse than that because Lee said Steve was the perfect head coach for Newcastle – and that’s probably an indication of the level of football knowledge Lee has – not very much.

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Tino Asprilla – in Toon at the moment

This is what Kevin Keegan famously said in December last year about the Managing Director:

“If you asked Lee Charnley to write what he knows about football on a postage stamp he wouldn’t fill it”

Steve McClaren was a complete and utter disaster for Newcastle and it was the hesitancy of Charnley to fire somebody he had hired, that basically has doomed the club to relegation.

24 points from 28 games is the worst performance in  the Premier League ever – that’s the record McClaren had when he was finally fired – and the team had got very used to losing games – in all kinds of different ways.

Here’s Steve McClaren’s league record at Newcastle.

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Tino Asprilla is back in Toon and he has been interviewed in the Chronicle today and he’s not a fan of Steve McClaren:

“Newcastle United have been very poor this season, and for me the problems started with the owner with his failure to invest in consecutive transfer windows, then the board who appointed Steve McClaren.”

“He was never going to be able to handle such a big club.” “The board were also to blame for wasting the money that Mike Ashley gave them.”

“Players such as Mitrovic and Thauvin have just not been good enough.” “Leicester City’s team who have won the title cost as much as those two players.”

“It is a joke.” “If we drop down, which looks inevitable, then it is the wonderful fans who suffer.” “They deserve to win the league and the cups and be in the Champions League.”

“I have just been to Parma to celebrate their success.” “I came to Newcastle and have had to console my good friends.” “It is not right.”

“If we go down will we come back up? “It depends on if Rafa stays, and that is a big if.” “If he leaves the club will suffer.”  

“I don’t think we have the players to get us out of the Championship although I hope I’m wrong.”

“But unless things change at the top and on the pitch, then my old club will be down for a few years.”

Owner Mike Ashley needs to carry out the review of the season he has promised, then hold those accountable who have been responsible for this relegation.

In short – those are Newcastle Board members Lee Charnley, Graham Carr and to a lesser extent Bob Moncur – since they  have run the club, appointed the head coach and been responsible for the transfers.

The review also has to be done quickly so the any new Board is in place this summer – hopefully with Rafa Benitez as the new manager with extensive control at the club.

Rafa will provide the brains, football knowledge and experience at the club and he must be allowed to build the club and his own team the way he wants to.

There has to be no interference from those who don’t know what they are talking about – those are the ones who have run the club this season and got us into a fine mess – again.

If Rafa is the manager next season, we are confident he can get us straight back up next season, but if Rafa leaves, then as Tino rightly points out – Newcastle could be in big trouble.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Board of Directors · Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Prayer · Premier League · Press

53 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Steve Bruce, that has to be a wind-up.

    Rather see KK back.

  • 2 SPRINGY // May 11, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    if the worst happens,ashley really is ganna have an awkward situation bar rafa saying he’s not stoppin as he doe’snt want to be in championship,if rafa states he wants to stay by his terms ashley will have to relent or there will be a torrent of abuse heading his way if rafa leaves coz he did’nt agree to his terms,if the club take up the option to not keep rafa there will be a shit load of abuse for the lack of ambition yet again.
    and if ashley agrees in full to rafas terms it will cost him alot of money, which we all know is something he doe’snt like doing,unless he’s earning from spending…all in all, its ganna be a tricky end of season and summer.

  • 3 toon kk // May 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM

    Funny thing is though alot of fans know no more than MA and Charnless, they also thought we had a good squad. Many said top eight on this blog. Shows how much they know.

    We haven’t got one proven striker for a start, Relegation was enivitable.

  • 4 rossrich // May 11, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    I’m pretty sure Derby only got 11 during the 07/08 season. Also didn’t the unwashed end up going down with about 15 or something. Although McBrolly’s record is more than a bit sh1t.

  • 5 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    toon kk

    Have disagree, I think we did have a top eight squad, we lacked a top eight manager.
    Rafa has already proved that the squad isn’t a bad one in the short time he’s been here.

  • 6 LGFUAD21 // May 11, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    the Agent Bruce link is no surprise to me.

    TBF in the championship, he’s a decent manager. HAs one a couple of promotions, knows the league and has shown to be quite astute in the transfer market at Hull.

    He;d be ok in Championship if Rafa leaves….BUT no way can he lead us anywhere in the Prem.

  • 7 LGFUAD21 // May 11, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    I dont think we did have a top 8 squad.

    To get into the top 8 you need balance.

    We dont even have a right winger.

    I think a lot of us (myself included) overrated our signings massively.

    And to think, I was fairly positive at the beginning of the season. I genuinely started to believe all the PR they were putting out about how Thauvin will flourish in the Prem.

    Just goes to show.

  • 8 ROSHAN MAGPIE // May 11, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    if the owner still don’t learn how to run this club then we are doomed

  • 9 ROSHAN MAGPIE // May 11, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    I don’t understand how ashley became a billionaire there is no way a guy this stupid can become a billionaire

  • 10 SPRINGY // May 11, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    im not convinced tbh mate,to be top eight you have to have ability and mental strength and desire to win and battle when things are not going well…i dont see that with most of these players….i could be wrong and its just the fact there confidence is so shot for struggling for two seasons has took the best out them,suppose we’ll see if these leave who they sign for and then how often they play for that club.

  • 11 toon kk // May 11, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Rafa has made a huge difference, there’s no getting away from that but?
    Who’s our goal scorer? In case you haven’t noticed we really struggle to score.
    Most of our goals don’t even come from strikers.

    We have a below average squad, that has really struggled all season. The table doesn’t lie mate.

  • 12 ROSHAN MAGPIE // May 11, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    even if we stay in the league I’m pretty sure rafa will get fed up of the owner and board and will leave us just like keegan

  • 13 SPRINGY // May 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    suppose we’ll see if these players leave,who they sign for,and then how often they play for that club.#

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // May 11, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    yorkshire_magpie // May 11, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    Cathro would be a good choice as manager in Championship.
    Yorkshire, you might be right. But I have no f******** idea why you think so.

  • 15 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // May 11, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    Top 8 currently would have meant we would have needed 58 points this season

    I think with this current team and Benitez being here for the majority of the season we would have got close to finishing on 50 points which would probably work out 11th or 12th which is still short of the top 8 target

    Not getting that 15 goal a season striker is always going to cost us by the looks of things

  • 16 LGFUAD21 // May 11, 2016 at 1:39 PM


    It’s something I’ve often wondered.

    But then again. All he does is bully through deals and sell tat on price.

    In business, only morons sell on price.

    Sports Direct got to where they are because he went tattle tail on his competitors.

  • 17 MadisonToon // May 11, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    The claim that the fans know nothing because the table doesn’t lie is short-sighted IMO. Are the players good enough for top 8? Maybe. Were the players going to end up in the top 8 with SM? Clearly not, although there was enthusiasm at the beginning of the season before we saw how poorly he handled the squad. As always, injuries haven’t helped, as a fit Cisse may have chipped in with another 5+ goals as could SDJ which would be the difference between relegation and ~14th.

    Additionally, and probably most importantly, a different manager helping Mitrovic through the season could have turned him into a 15 goal striker, at least 10+. Cisse’s return under Benitez shows that Rafa would have injected some fire into our other forwards aside from Mitro, creating competition for places and inertia. A player can be a 15 goal striker at one club in one scenario and not be a 15 goal striker elsewhere (e.g. Benteke) due to playing time, coaching, etc. I believe Mitro can be a 15 goal striker in the PL @ Newcastle, I just hope Rafa and NUFC have the chance to show that.

  • 18 Toon Tang // May 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Having to rely on Everton is breaking my balls man.

  • 19 ROSHAN MAGPIE // May 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    LGFUAD21 ya he is a bully

  • 20 Toon Tang // May 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    The same way having to rely on Chelsea pounded my swede clean in.

  • 21 Toon Tang // May 11, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Just get the draw for chuffs sakes.

  • 22 Blackley and Brownlie // May 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Yours is the sort of complacency that many of us warned against at the start of the season. I couldn’t believe then that anyone would’ve backed Cisse, Mitro, SDJ or Perez to get the goals. I can’t believe now, after witnessing those lads in action all season, that anyone still thinks it was realistic.

  • 23 ROSHAN MAGPIE // May 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    what happened to ashley buying rangers thing I’m pretty sure we are not worth that much in championship

  • 24 Toon Tang // May 11, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Tonight could be a triple whammy ball-buster. Mackems win, sending us down; another Everton defeat hammers the second to last nail into Martinez coffin and Benitez leaves to join the Evertonian staff in the summer.

  • 25 Toon Tang // May 11, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    I cry into my sugar puffs and then my urine smells of tears and sugar puffs.

  • 26 Bobbybee // May 11, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    Talking about strikers. All 20 of Arma’s goals for Coventry for your perusal. This is what taking your chances is all about. 😉

  • 27 Bobbybee // May 11, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    If only morons sell at price, how is Ashley a billionaire? He’s done something right somewhere. I think his big mistake was thinking football is like any other business, when we all know it ain’t. That and taking advice off people who only knew fractionally more than he did. If he decides to team up with Rafa, he will have finally got it right. We can but hope.

  • 28 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 2:25 PM

    Springy, you mean like HBA and Danny Simpson.

    I don’t think anyone would have called him a top eight player.

  • 29 Tartantoon // May 11, 2016 at 2:25 PM

  • 30 MadisonToon // May 11, 2016 at 2:26 PM


    Do you think if SM had Hazard at his disposal he would have done better here than at Chelsea this season? Do you think if we had brought in Lacazette, he would have 20 goals? Would PEA have? Put any of those players in the squad that played with zero confidence or commitment all season under McClaren and you would have been complaining about something else, or that they weren’t good enough and why didn’t we purchase a proven player. They would have gotten little to no service as we didn’t have wingers until Townsend.

    I’m 100% with you in being disappointed with the club and the way things are being run, but I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There were 0 players who were considered good players in the NUFC team at the end of SM’s time here – noone said well at least we have XXXX who is playing well (maybe GKs aside). Do you think if we had brought in the world-class striker we all craved that they would have been our saving grace or been a standout?

  • 31 davis_toons // May 11, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    Rafa leaves…

    Ashley Out.

  • 32 carltoon // May 11, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    please not Steve Bruce.

  • 33 Blackley and Brownlie // May 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    We said it. We predicted it.

    We needed a goalscorer. I was saying we should get Defoe long before Sunderland got him. Goals breed confidence throughout the team.

  • 34 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    I don’t think you can fault Ashley as a business man, he’s mean, tough and single minded but as most of us are saying and what KK said he would’t fill a postage stamp with his football knowledge.

    It’s a pity Chris Mort didn’t stay on, he didn’t pretend to be a football expert unlike Charnley and would probably have had enough savvy to try and get the right pegs into the right holes.

  • 35 wolfshead@toon // May 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM


    dont cry into your sugar puffs mate switch to rice krispies

  • 36 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    Tartan, if you were to add that Sundaland should be included and docked points for knowingly fielding a child abuser then I’d be happy to sign it.

    I don’t begrudge WH their success this season and would be delighted if they pushed some of the CL contenders out of playing in it.

  • 37 toon kk // May 11, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    Does anyone else think Doumbia May have been a false farce? I think the club just brought him in to make them look active in the transfer window with little or no intention of using him. Where is he now??

  • 38 MadisonToon // May 11, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    Do you think Defoe would have kept SM in charge? Do you think he would have righted the ship? I just can’t believe any one striker would have overcome the managerial mismanagement.

    If you are willing to admit that managerial mismanagement got us into the predicament in the table that we are in, then you’ve got to admit that the squad isn’t pure relegation fodder. Top 8 was clearly a reach, but that’s the point of setting targets, they have to be high. I’m sure most of us put them in the 13th-16th (or whatever the range was) in the beginning of the season poll. Add in poor management and we end up below that. Add in good management (Rafa after 10 games when we were supposed to judge SM [yes, he wasn’t available, but that’s not the point]) and we would have been on the upper end of that…given the players that we had and a January window for the new manager.

    Yes, many of the players aren’t good enough, but they also don’t have any structure within which to perform. During SM’s reign, we are just hoping to score on some counter-attack sometime and praying to keep a clean sheet or only let in a few. There was no clear plan – were we going to get it to the wingers and fizz in crosses? Were we going to build from the back? Were we going to have our overloaded midfield work it through the other team? None of those were ever an apparent part of the game plan and without a plan, even good players look mediocre. Until we remove the hamstring of the lack of a game plan, it’s hard to really judge how good the current players can be.

  • 39 Blackley and Brownlie // May 11, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Mitro, Perez, and De Jong are not natural goalscorers. None of them can do what Defoe does. And Cisse has lost it. Embarrassing at times.

  • 40 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Also and I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, it’s a pity we didn’t have Rafa a month earlier.

  • 41 Essex Geordie Bill // May 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM

    Blackley, Mitro and Perez are still youngsters, partially agree with Perez, but I think you’ll be proved wrong with Mitro.

  • 42 davis_toons // May 11, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Doumbia deal could so be a step to bridge some connection which is common among football scouts.

  • 43 shaun83 // May 11, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Blackley – agree on Defoe, pure goal scorer who has made a big difference. Followed him since he scored in 10 or 11 consecutive games for Bournemouth, a record at the time.

    Re Rafa – to be honest I think he owes us a year. Yes things have improved but, if as is likely, he fails to keep us up then results at outcome not been great. I’m a big fan and really want him to stay btw.

  • 44 Munster Mag // May 11, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    You may not agree but i wud take bruce ahead of plenty others. In purely functional terms, he wud be a good bet to get us up. If thats about all.

  • 45 lochinvar // May 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM

    Could be down for years ?
    Most of the fans have been down ( in the dumps ) for decades – the odd exception here and there of course !

    Rafa is an astute man.
    IF the worst happens and decisions have to be made then he stays until January 2017. At that time he can review both the clubs and his positions. By staying he has the respect of the world.
    If he later moves on then he still has respect and that also allows the club to decide in good time as to what course they pursue for he rest of 2017 onwards.

  • 46 lochinvar // May 11, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Some comments earlier about Ashley’s commercial dealings.
    He’s sniffing around the dying embers of BHS and also Austin Reed.
    Go-Outdoors are now looking for investment or maybe a buyer – right up his street as a partner to Sports Direct ( where he has some Outdoor interests already ).

    Why he bothers about NUFC I don’t know – it can only be for Global Advertising and to reach the new adoring football fanatics in China.

    Sadly it all adds up for the wrong reasons.

  • 47 mickybraham // May 11, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Can someone tell me if I’m wrong.

    Rafa has a 3 year contract. Both parties have a clause to terminate if relegated.

    As far as I’m concerned Rafa is the manager and we should be hoping nothing changes. He doesn’t have to say he’s staying and Mike Ashley doesn’t have to say he’s not getting rid.


    why is Cordy boy looking for a manager? I would like to think it would be a contingency plan. However, that would be a first for us under Ashley.

    IMO even if Rafa is happy to continue, Ashley deems it to expensive and will get rid of him. Hence the search for a manager


  • 48 one fine day // May 11, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    davis_toons // May 11, 2016 at 2:48 PM

    Doumbia deal could so be a step to bridge some connection which is common among football scouts.

    The fact that this complete waste of space was on Instagram buying skinny jeans like a 17 yr old girl as we are struggling says the only bridge connection he should be given is about 6 meters of rope .
    Bell end ! an sums up why we are where we are .
    makes marcellino look like he was committed

  • 49 barkel // May 11, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    Of course we thought we had a top 8 side but who thought Leicester had a side that we’re going to be any better than 17th!? Top management was the difference

  • 50 Blackley and Brownlie // May 11, 2016 at 4:14 PM

    Who honestly thought we had a top 8 side? We nearly got relegated the previous season because our defence was shit and we didn’t score enough goals. We then add Mbemba who isn’t the most commanding CB you’ll ever see. And a lumbering CF who couldn’t hit a cow’s arse with a banjo. Sorry, I nearly forgot, we also added the invisible man and the disappearing man.

    We’ve gone five games unbeaten under Rafa. But Rafa’s problems, like McLaren’s, are plain to see. Look at both the Villa games. De Jong who heads over when it was easier to score. And Mitro who tries to lob the keeper when it just needed to be put wide of him.

    I can blame McLaren because, like Pardew, he was happy with the recruitment and obviously thought in his professional opinion that we had more than enough to get by and make a decent fist of it.

  • 51 Jib // May 11, 2016 at 4:27 PM

    If the worst should happen tonight and the Toon go down one piece of consolation for stateside viewers is they will still be on TV.
    This US site’s rather upbeat view of relegation gives Dame Alan old boy “Rocky” Hudson a mention.

  • 52 Jib // May 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Dame Allan even

  • 53 rush_nufc // May 11, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    Tonight if Everton wins against Sunderland, it may not save Newcastle but it will definately make that fat bastard shit his pants for few more days and take away that grin out of his face.

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