Initiative Shown By Fans Forum At A Critical Time


It’s good the Fans Forum is doing everything they can to ensure that Rafa Benitez stays at Newcastle – if he stays then Newcastle fans will have real hope for the future.

We have none at the moment.

The group got involved during the initial Rafa discussions with Lee Charnley in early March and Lee pulled that one off.

Charnley now needs to ensure he gets Rafa to commit to the club for next season – and gets any help he needs to do that from owner Mike Ashley.

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Lee Charnley – get the job done – get Rafa

As Louis Taylor has aptly described in the Guardian today, Rafa staying at Newcastle will help anesthetize the severe pain of relegation the fans have felt since last night.

This is the Statement from the Newcastle United Fans Forum:

We are completely devastated to lose our position in the Premier League.

Our fans have many concerns. Whilst the fans generally expected this fate, it was quite apparent that the club failed us miserably in the time that it took to make a decision to terminate Steve McClaren’s employment and bring in Rafa Benitez.

Now is not the time to discuss these failures. We will do that at our final meeting of the season.

However, the reason for this statement is to make it perfectly clear that we want every possible resource thrown at an attempt to retain the services of our current Manager.

Rafa Benitez has demonstrated his ability to connect with the fans. The fans of this club deserve the respect of the board and current owners of Newcastle United. This group of fans can make a huge difference to the club and have demonstrated this on several occasions.

Ad a Message to Rafa Benitez:

Whilst we fully accept that the short-term prospect of life in The Championship may not be as appealing as other offers that you may be presented with, we can certainly promise you that the potential rewards of the longer term would exceed any position that you consider.

And finally a Message to the owner:

Whilst we accept that to retain the services of Rafa will come ‘at a price’, we urge you to look ahead to the longer term benefit of Newcastle United.

Installing Rafa as manager will have shown you the ‘lift’ that it gave to our club, albeit maybe too late.

It is imperative that you act swiftly. We need actions not words – a PR ‘feel good’ statement is not want the fans want to see.

We need you to demonstrate your business acumen and your intent to ‘not let this one slip away’.

Comments welcome.



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82 comments so far

  • Thump

    May 12, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #1

    The Fans Forum doing what Charmless should have been saying yesterday…

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  • Average_Contents

    May 12, 2016 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #2

    Perhaps the fans forum could be a collective MD instead of penfold bungling along at a snails pace.

    On second thoughts, we wouldn’t want anyone rocking the fat slugs cosy little workings would we.

    Get out of our club!

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  • Nufc-83

    May 12, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #3

    Ibiza your response has forced my hand to respond 🙁

    Nufc-83…Leaving your rude “single minded” comment to one side.

    Ok lol

    “Of course owner of the company on national tv will say the book stops with him” Why “of course”? Because it does, perhaps?

    But in reality the major decisions influencing events are not made by him and he is relying on the idiots like Carr who are more responsible. This season he has released money to the club which is what he said he would do and at the start of the season most fans would have praised him for as they would not have expected with 80 odd million spent we would be relegated much like Ashley himself I expect.

    “but in reality it’s the people making major decisions or advising below that are more to blame.” Day to day, yes (if you believe that is the real setup). However, as owner, it is him who decides to keep them in employment. If he hasn’t got what he wanted from them, you’d expect them to be fired.

    As said he is not clever enough or knowledgable enough regarding football matters to make them decisions so it’s the people responsible for football related decisions (bit of catch 22).

    “Ashley has pumped money in this year” Incorrect. Other than the purchase and early “loans” he has not put a single penny in to the club. Not one. He has finally allowed the club to spend it’s money, money it had previously not been allowed to spend. Hardly something to champion when the blueprint is to be self sufficient.

    if you had said to 99% of fans that 80 odd million would be spent they would have laughed and said don’t be so stupid. How it has spent is the big issue is that Ashley’s fault??

    “like he said he would when the club was stable and profitable” We went 18 months, with money in the bank, without buying one player.

    Hmm possibly but maybe he received advice nobody was worth getting through the door for the price negotiated e.g lacazette

    “do you think he expected relegation of course not.” I don’t know what he expected, nor do I care. Well take a guess he did not IMO

    “He is relying on idiots to advise him and as I said I don’t think he is a savvy clever businessman as people make out” He’s relying on “idiots” that HE has chosen to advise him.

    Again not a smart man which is why the idiots advising are more responsible for the mess IMO

    He’s worth several billion. Clearly he’s not a mug. The issue is, football clubs can’t be run as purely a business. Well, they can, and we have been. Long before Charnley and the players messed this season up.

    Same as above really

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 12, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #4

    If the club get Rafa in permanently and he is provided the tools to get on with the job the way he sees fit I think it could be amazing !

    Ashley clearly would rather just have someone running the show so he can be out of the limelight well hand over the reins to a proven manager who will call in experts to run the club !

    The club would end up successful , profits would still be made , share prices would be up and his other brands would be associated with a popular football franchise !

    You could still work to the development model of buying some young players and selling some at a profit to then be reinvested just Benitez would know how to do it properly with replacements for outgoing players already sourced or within the club already !

    Bit of a no brainer surely?!?

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  • Setchell

    May 12, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #5

    Anyone know what the crack is on Sunday? Purely singing for benitez in the hope he stays?

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  • Nufc-83

    May 12, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #6

    Setchel it has to be really doesn’t it although I hope during the game the likes of gini and sissokho get a career ending injury!!

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  • hibbitt

    May 12, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #7

    Nufc-83

    i thought i recognised the style of your writing
    you had the same answer the last time we had a set-to you were using different user name then
    stick to fifa /football manager you might be better at that then the real thing which you know nowt about

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  • jimmysmith

    May 12, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #8

    I remember Michael Owen’s wife crying when she found out her husband had signed for Newcastle, and Llambias claiming Keegan wanted to spend like Mourinho as justification for his sacking, and supporting Newcastle being one continuous cycle of hope and bitter realisation of course, makes me think that Rafa staying quite unlikely. Real Madrid to Rotherham being quite a fall from grace. And in truth his record here hasn’t been stellar, nor was it there, although clearly a very good manager. It’s really all about this one moment though, where everything can change, that makes the prospect of him staying so compelling, but I very much doubt he will. I imagine the smart money is on Rafa asking for more than Ashley will be prepared to give, and Bishop trying desperately to spin it, which really should cue the end for the owner.

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  • Novocastrian66

    May 12, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #9

    Nufc83, bit strong that mate. Personally I don’t care what they do once they leave Newcastle.
    On the Rafa situation, we need to resolve this quickly one way or the other. While the club’s executives are dithering baffoons, Rafa’s representatives are not. Rafa will want his position sorted quickly. I reckon if there isn’t a statement before the end of May, he’s gone, and the club will be in a cold sweat wondering how to sort the problem of our new manager.

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  • Setchell

    May 12, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #10

    Many of you going Sunday?

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  • reilly

    May 12, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    Comment #11

    bishop sleeper cell.

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  • croftus5678

    May 12, 2016 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #12

    now if we be realistic about things here !
    even with macca/pards still in charge we would have had a great chance of coming back up to the prem next season with what players we will be left with.

    realisticly wijnaldum/sissoko/krul and janmaat could be leaving us as they will have people looking to capitalise on them and their quality (even though i’m sure i’ll get the usual crying from some about sissoko) and perez is 70/30 to stay imo it all depends on barca and if it’s true and how much they offer vs his loyalty.

    saylor will go by default and colo could depend on who’s the manager so he may stay or go but apart from that we will have what we do now with arma thrown in.

    we could be left with

    elliott/darlow/woodman
    hairdryer/anita/sterry/dummett/mbabu/lescalles/mbem.
    townsend/rolando/tiote/saivet/vukic/siem/colback/shelvey/goofy.
    perez/arma/cisse/mitro/river.

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  • Nufc-83

    May 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    Comment #13

    Hibbit utter rubbish I’ve been on here a lot longer than you and by the same name you idiot.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #14

    Some attempts at player valuations:
    Perez: 3-5M based on previous seasons. Not great this season. Not enough playing time. Signed a long term contract with us and possibly relaxed a bit too much.
    Cisse: 3M. This man is the definition of the word flake. He has taken some of the wildest swings at the ball I’ve ever seen. Looks a bit short in the brain department as well unfortunately. Might have a few goals left in him.
    Shelvey: has pretty much destroyed his value to other clubs. If he really is on 80K a week we had better find a way to get him to perform. No sale value right now with that contract.
    Krul: 5M. Keepers always seem to be undervalued. Good shot stopper but terribly distributor of the ball. Skinny feet are his downfall.
    Wijnaldum: 5-7M but it won’t be offered by any Prem teams who have watched him all season.
    Sissoko: 5M but again not from a Prem team.
    Total sale value of this bunch? 21-25M pounds.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #15

    Anybody who thinks Perez is good enough for Barcelona better stop smoking the happy weed.

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  • giimps

    May 12, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m going if I’m finished work on time, if we can get Rafa to stay and start the rebuild project by shouting his name and singing songs I’m all for it.
    If he has any sense though he wouldn’t trust them to keep their word after the season has ended…..lots of promises but little in the way of substance ……..and repeat

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  • reilly

    May 12, 2016 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #17

    we all know bishop will have his minions out in force.

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  • jimmysmith

    May 12, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Comment #18

    “Skinny feet are his downfall.” Haha, that might be true. He is a strange specimen. Dutch of course, which explains any number of peculiarities.

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  • one fine day

    May 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #19

    Not sure what the rest of you think but on Sunday I would drop all our “stars ”
    Sissoko. And wini do not deserve to walk out in front of fans like ours .
    Showed zero bottle when it was needed.
    Agent colback likewise.
    As for cisse dropped too .
    It’s not like they will give a shit as they are still getting there precious cash .
    Why not bring Rama in for the last game and let him have Arun at spurs see where he is at .
    Could. Not be any worse than seeing cisse simply going through the motions .
    Nothing too loose now and it may give us a little hope for the future if he can tear them up with race and we know he can run the channels and close down defenders

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #20

    Oh and that 21-25M pound valuation would depend on having a proper MD in place, not Charnley. Charnley would probably get about 12M for the whole bunch. And be very pleased with himself.

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  • lochinvar

    May 12, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #21

    Maybe we are missing the point.
    Rafa is an industry expert in his field and has been a Manager at the highest level .
    Being a Manger again may not be where he sees himself ( at his age and with family commitments ) – what could really make him tick is a “Project” and NUFC is about a big a ” Project ” as you can get.
    How about some long term security for him and for us .
    He should be made Director of Football and while having some influence over team affairs can leave the day to day coaching to Cathro and the others – giving them increased roles and opportunities.
    Rafa can then actually build a Sporting Club based on the legacy learnt from Real Madrid , Barcelona and others.
    Imagine – really imagine the thrill and cudos of building the potential of NUFC into a European super club . Leicester are to be congratulated on their achievements but Newcastle United should and can be one of the great clubs in the new era of global football. Building that must appeal to Raf a and his team more than just reverting to normal club manager status elsewhere. Everton ( going nowhere with Liverpool in town ) would be like going back in time.
    With Newcastle the future is bright – make it so !

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  • hitman

    May 12, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #22

    any ashley bum boys out there that would like to explain this one.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #23

    It’s not us missing the point lochinvar, it’s Ashley. He has missed the point for 9 years now. He doesn’t even know there is a point. It’s difficult to put a plan together when the owner and his minions are all pinheads.

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  • lochinvar

    May 12, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #24

    Setchell@10
    Of course we’re going.
    We are toon.
    Supporters.
    Daft maybe but supporters nevertheless.
    And we don’t eat prawns, aren’t students or temporary lodgers in Newcastle and don’t celebrate the Year of the Dragon.
    It’s in the DNA apparently and there’s nowt you can do about it .

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #25

    We haven’t seen too many Ashley bum boys on here lately for some strange reason Hitman. Something in the water possibly? Some strange Ashley flu? More likely to be diarrhea knowing Ashley. He gives me a bad case of the galloping trots anyway.

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  • hitman

    May 12, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #26

    G2 we will see them all crawl out the wood work now tho.
    Q stardust

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #27

    I think the Ashley supporters are gathering tonight in a rundown shack on the edge of the Toon to discuss the many triumphs of the season. No lights allowed and the cheering must be kept to a minimum in case it’s heard by passing Newcastle supporters.

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  • lochinvar

    May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    Comment #28

    GeordieTwo – fair point, quite right – it wasn’t meant to read as Royal “we”, it’s just me letting off steam in frustration that Ashley and Charnley don’t seem capable of any vision nor have any aspiration for the club whereas we all do in different ways.

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  • Yo-yo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #29

    I can’t see why a year in the Championship rebuilding a club for an attack on a good EPL finish, and with the oppotunities of good cup runs, is necessarily a step down. He’s already done the Galactico stuff, he’s already won the European Cup. He and his wife seem to like the UK and want to stay.
    Well I dunno who the superhero is who wakes sleeeping giants – but Rafa has the chance of doing something very special.
    His CV would look great of he got us into the top 6 of the EPL,and a cup win after so many emopty decades. It is the challenge which I think exercises him, after all, he didn’t hace to come here, and his sacking was more a personality clash.

    So what would make us successful next year ?
    Promotion with more points than last time.
    Unbeaten home form.
    Good cup runs in all competitions.
    Junior sides beginning to perform.
    Qiality players coming through into the starting 11.

    Rafa has the opportunity to deliver something special for us, not an easy challenge but just as valid as many others than may seem higher profile.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 12, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Let me be the first to congratulate Ashley properly. Dear Mike:
    Thank you for that wonderful season. After the statement you made last summer we all knew we were in for something special. We certainly got it. A$$ licking cowards clinging to the club. A seven year old could have done a better job than Charnley. McTosser was perfect for us. A failed Championship manager. And then you couldn’t even decide to sack him with us in the bottom three. Well done old chap! Another feather in your bonnet. What’s next? I suppose we’re going to have to wait for the annual summer statement. That will certainly be worthwhile I’m sure.

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #31

    Our current situation has nothing to do with Rafa. He tried to do a mission impossible and almost succeeded. Anyone knocking his efforts and believing we could do any better than Rafa is hardly worth the discussion.
    Why do none going fans think we’re happy with the situation? We ain’t. We’re probably more angry than the keyboard warriors, but supporting a team has nothing to do with what league we’re in ffs. We committed ourselves a long time ago that thick and thin means just that. If you don’t get why we go week in week out, there’s nothing we can say that will convince you. Neither is it worth the effort. The reason Rafa is even considering staying is because of those loyal fans some of you love to denigrate. Frankly, you simply don’t matter. We’ll be there Sunday and chanting for Rafa to stay. Making an effort. What will you be doing? Whining on the blog as usual. Despite what your ego tells you, you are a minority. Our loyalty is the best thing about the club right now and has been for decades. Winning that important? Should have done your due diligence before jumping on the KK bandwagon. This is typical Newcastle over the 58 years I’ve been alive. We now have a chance to change it, if we can keep Rafa. We ain’t Ashley fans, nor Bishop’s minnions. We’re the lifeblood of this club and we want Rafa to stay. We will express that on Sunday. If that hurts your sensibilities, you can always switch the bloody tv off.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    May 12, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #32

    From what I gather on Twitter, this influencing Rafa to stay by declaring our undying love is bordering on embarrassing and more likely to drive him away. Like a spurned psycho-lover desperately pleading.

    I’m all for chanting and showing appreciation, but The Chronicle’s front page and this ‘petition’ is tacky and misjudged.

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  • lochinvar

    May 12, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #33

    Forbes list of top 20 clubs in the world.

    http://www.forbes.com/soccer-valuations/list/#tab:overall

    NUFC are 20th.
    West Ham now 15th ? – just because they have rented the Olympic Stadium

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  • ShirebrookToon

    May 12, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #34

    Rebuilding the club from top to bottom is the ideal project for Rafa, give him the tools and let him awaken the sleeping giant!

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  • lochinvar

    May 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #35

    #17th West Ham

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  • hitman

    May 12, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #36

    wtf is all this shite about begging rafa to stay and show support at the last game of the season.
    do we have no self respect.

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #37

    Ashley’s bumboys? How old are you? We supported the lads long before he came along and will do so long after he’s gone. He has zero to do with our commitment to NUFC. We ain’t the weak minded who have allowed him to drive us away. Newcastle till i die actually means that to some of us.

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  • beermonkey

    May 12, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #38

    lochinvar

    hammers already flogged 50,000 season tickets
    they will a big load of cash for finishing 6th

    the owners will prob get what they paid for the club out of the sale of the hammers ground
    and there football people

    when u see the investment that gonna happen at everton hammers leicster spurs add that to the likes of chelsea city man u arsenal liverpool
    the decision the club took not to invest when we got 5th looks criminal now not just stupid

    not only are we miles behind them in revenue but soon to be in attendance as well

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #39

    Hitman, are you another bladeuser then? So you don’t chant for Rafa, nobody is making you. Just out of curiosity, will you be there Sunday?

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  • hitman

    May 12, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    Comment #40

    wee heee bobby you get the gormless prize.take ya pick,.9inch strap on or a wait for it a sd mug.

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