What Our Players Are Really Thinking In Training Today


It’s ironic that those players who let the club down by not trying too hard when the games got tough are exactly the same ones who will be talking to their agents to get them out of Newcastle just as quickly ass possible.

It’s sad but true and players like Gini Wijnaldum and Moussa Sissoko are almost certain to leave Newcastle this summer.

And the training at Benton today should be interesting with players talking about what to do now the gravy train called Newcastle have been relegated.

moussa sissoko

Moussa Sissoko – get me to a club who plays Champions League every season

We would not be at all surprised if these are some of the thinking or comments made at the training ground today:

  • Wonder if Manchester United are really interested in me – tell them I’m interested and available
  • Would leaving the club on Monday look bad?
  • Must rememebr not to talk about my holidays in the dressing room after Tottenham game
  • I never liked the weather here in any case – it’s too dismal
  • Wonder if Spurs would take me back?
  • I’ll stay  – it will look good – and in any case I’m on massive wages here
  • Wonder if that was true that  Juventus want me – I’d go there in a flash – their strips looks so much better than Newcastle’s
  • Never liked Rafa  – he knows too  much and to drop me – well that was a huge mistake
  • I’ll stay here for five years and take the money – I could always fake an injury or two or maybe go on loan now and again?
  • I could always y poor form was because they played me out of position

We’ve heard the comments from striker Luuk de Jong,  that one reason he was a complete and utter failure  (not his words) at Newcastle was that he was played out of position.

Well that was only because he never scored or even had a shot when he played up front as a striker.

Players have a knack of blaming other people or events for their own failures – they don’t take responsibility.

It will be no different at Newcastle this summer, as some of our players queue up to leave the club asap.



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75 comments so far

  • hkToon

    May 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Frank de Boer left Ajax. Dreaming too early?

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 12, 2016 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #2

    This is just a rant, Ed. Haway, fella. You can do better. As for LDJ, he was played out of position, in a team that created no chances, so even on the rare time he had up front, he never had a chance. I don’t see the logic in bring him up in all of this. There are plenty of more deserving, current targets.

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    May 12, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #3

    Why fire any non playing staff. Just fire lee charnley. If steve mcclaren had a big hand in getting us relegated, charnley must be held responsible for appointing him, describing him as the “perfect fit”.

    Charney has not only got the club relegated, he’s cost his boss over 100 million. How on earth is that not a sack able offence. But I hear if benitez leaves, it will be charnley got to find a replacement. It shows how much of a joke the club is been run by.

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  • Malackay

    May 12, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #4

    I think the what if’s for next season start now.

    For me, we should or will get rid of Krul, Colocinni, Taylor, Janmaat, Gini, Sissoko, SDJ, Gouffran, Tiote, Townsend, Cisse, Saivet, Riviere, Doumbia.

    Sort of players I’d like us to target: Redmond, Jedinak, Caulker, Rhodes, Gestede, Clark, Barton (unlikely), Dunk, Ince…….

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 12, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #5

    hk

    fdb is one of the very few who could take away some of the pain of rafa leaving. I guess we all know in reality it’s agent bruce or some other 3rd rater and business and failure as usual from the chuckle brothers C&C.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    May 12, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #6

    Oof, Ed has gone ultra-cynic!

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 12, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #7

    i bet taylor gets another reprieve too!!! No one seemingly pays for failure at sjp.

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  • Our Toon

    May 12, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #8

    Shadow

    Charnley didn’t get the club relegated, he isn’t the owner, he doesn’t make the decisions as most would like to think he does, he’s a yes man who’s climbed the ranks by kissing ass and saying yes sir. The ultimate yes man who would be nothing but a tea boy at another club. He would be one of the non playing staff that would be losing his job if he was at another club.

    Wake up and stop blaming the puppets, Ashley is to blame, always has been and always will be, the rest of them follow him to the hilt

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  • roblee7

    May 12, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #9

    I can see Colo getting another year extension. In fairness, he was immense in the Championship (7 years ago!). His level I think. Wouldn’t be suprised if Taylor gets another year too, bloody hope not on both mind

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  • Bambams

    May 12, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #10

    Everybody will be hoping Ashley comes out and makes a bold statement…

    ” We made mistakes and I will change the board, Appoint Rafa and make funds available to get us back up ”

    No chance. Charnley will stay as will Carr because to change this will show Ashley made mistakes – he will never admit this by making sackings.

    I am just hoping he has had enough and sells up. Hopefully to someone who knows more about football clubs and how to treat fans/employees.

    Won’t hold my breath

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  • roblee7

    May 12, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #11

    we’ll probably re-sign Shola

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  • JAMSHA

    May 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #12

    Malackay // May 12, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    I think the what if’s for next season start now.

    For me, we should or will get rid of Krul, Colocinni, Taylor, Janmaat, Gini, Sissoko, SDJ, Gouffran, Tiote, Townsend, Cisse, Saivet, Riviere, Doumbia.

    Sort of players I’d like us to target: Redmond, Jedinak, Caulker, Rhodes, Gestede, Clark, Barton (unlikely), Dunk, Ince…….

    Townsend wont go Rest Will Got ,Krul 50-50, an agree with the players we should get u mention

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  • Jib

    May 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #13

    Reading the Spanish media is surreal , they put a totally different spin on things.

    They are aware of Ronnie Gill’s campaign to get Rafa to stay and the board to be sacked and just cannot get their heads round it.

    Their take on it is , Benitez had 10 games to get 30 points and save the Toon , he has got 10 points from a possible 27 and we are relegated , ergo he’s failed – sack him !

    Just shows how important a closer view is !

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  • Slank

    May 12, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #14

    Managers live or die by results. Far too often they are not given sufficient time and sufficient resources.

    But this cannot be true of McClaren.

    If managers live and die by results so should the Chairman / CEO. Charnley should resign as should Carr whose scouting has been one of the key factors in the poor performances of the team.

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  • Malackay

    May 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #15

    JAMSHA –

    I hope you’re right about Townsend, but I imagine there will be a host of clubs from 7th downward in the prem who will pay £10m for him with new TV money. No way NUFC turn that down with cheaper players like Aarons in the wings and loss of revenue from relegation.

    I hope we keep likes of Lascelles, Mbemba, Ayoze, Colback, etc.

    We need to move on from Taylor and Colo but wouldn’t be surprised if we keep one of them and allow Mbemba to leave for c.£5m. That would be very short sighted though.

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  • ToonRich

    May 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #16

    Guys, I have an old colleague who works at the SD headquarters…MA’s desk supposedly withing spitting distance. Anyone got a formal message I could maybe get my mate to pass on/print out and leave on his desk….!

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    May 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #17

    OOT:

    Krul – £5m

    Janmaat – £7m
    Saylor – Airdrop into Syria
    Colo – Fire out of a cannon into orbit

    Tiote – £5m
    Gouffran – £1m
    Gini – £12m
    Sissoko – £12m
    Saivet – £3m

    Cisse – £3m
    Riviere – Curly Wurly
    Perez – £12m

    £60m there. Realistic evaluations given we’re in much better financial shape than most that go down and the previous reputations of some of the bigger names and perceived potential in the likes of Perez.

    Even if you say £50m, that’s still enough to rebuild for the Championship.

    ____________Darlow____________
    Anita__Mbemba___Lascelles__Robertson
    ________Shelvey__Colback
    Townsend_____SDJ________Aarons
    _____________Armstrong

    Or 2 up top with Mitro, though I wouldn’t be sad to see the back of him.

    SDJ will either go back to Holland or come to the fore and be made captain.

    Might be a bit optimistic in thinking we can keep Townsend given his showing since been here, but no international tournament in 2017 and the fact he won’t get much more money elsewhere might mean he stays put for the time being.

    Robertson should be a priority purchase if Hull fail to gain promotion and I suspect we’ll have Steve Bruce in that situation to make it happen. He plays 4-4-2 and 3-5-2 which would be interesting to see.

    Bringing back Abeid, Barton and Tavernier would be welcome.

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  • shaun83

    May 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #18

    Repost- Rafa apparently has a three year contract. Putting a relegation release cause in there smelt a bit off anyway but I think he owes it to the club to try and get us back up next season. It’s not like the results have been there since he took over. Sunderland have out performed us. At times big improvement but at times nowhere near good enough, especially first half.

    I just hope charnley and co don’t screw up, again!

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  • ToonRich

    May 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Within*

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    May 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #20

    Jib

    Yeah but, getting 1pt from Norwich and Sunderland was all part of Rafa’s plan. Bobbybee said so, it must be true.

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  • BandB

    May 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #21

    In 2009, everyone who wanted to go and who there was an offer for, left.
    The TV deal in the Championship is £2.5m.
    This is a squeeze…..

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  • Nufc-83

    May 12, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Jail/Average what exactly did i get wrong was it stating that the club is sound financially when in fact you consider a loan to the owner of the club a reason for us to be seen as not soundly run (4th worst in prem)? The ashely loan will be paid on sale of the club and not as you say average on demand. Ashely made the mistake of paying off all our external debt while leaving the team without any investment which has ultimately (along with other stupid decisions) put us in the predicament we are now. If we had invested the 80M when we finished 5th do you think we would be in this position?? Ashley has said all along that the club will invest when the club is self sufficient and making a profit (which was too late) but that is the position we are in now as you seen by the investment this year.

    Anyway I am not sitting here saying that i want Ashely to stay or he has been good for the club far from it what i am saying is the players and Carr are more deserved of the critcism this season than anyone else at the club. The palyers will go and i hope carr is gone but if not then yes its another mistake in a long line from Ashely.

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  • Slank

    May 12, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #23

    Jib,

    The Spanish are far more ruthless with their managers. The ‘what if’ scenario. If it hadn’t been Benetez but say Tony Pulis would the many fans be not voicing their support for their manager but the head of their manager ?

    After all it wasn’t too long ago that ‘In Carr we trust’ was the mantra.

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  • Ibizatoon

    May 12, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #24

    I notice the calls are for people to resign, not be fired.

    If we’re to believe a new dawn is possible, does the chief not need to start taking action?

    So far it does seem to be a case of business as usual.

    BandB…Good job our board know how to deal with financial squeezing. It’s about the only thing they know how to do.

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  • Our Toon

    May 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #25

    Hail

    Krul will go for a lot more, he’s classed as a home grown player so for the clubs in Europe he’ll be massive as a back up. Think we could be looking at 15m.

    Obviously some players will need to be shipped out, sissoko, cisse, Janmaat, Gini, cabella, thauvin, saivet are the obvious ones. At least 35m with them

    I’d get rid of Shelvey 80k for that bag of shite is ridiculous, loan townsend out but he has a buyout clause of 8m which is a bummer.

    As for colo and saylor, we will unfortunately need them next season but at least they’ll be on lower salaries.

    The rest we could hold on to but can’t see the likes of mitro etc wanting to stay

    Krul might have to stay after a serious injury

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  • Malackay

    May 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #26

    I don’t think Rafa stay with us BUT if he does surely it is a no brainer for Ashley to hand complete control of the club to him? He is a football man and knows the game inside out.

    No need for Charnley – replace him with an accountant whose only role is to be the FD of the business and has no say in anything. Give Rafa a fixed budget, allow him to have final decision on Moncur, Carr, Beardsley etc. all the way down to youth level. Allow him to bring in his own scouts, coaches, physios. Make him fully accountable sure, but make sure he has total control.

    Given him final control on transfers in and out, contracts, media and fans comms strategy.

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  • Slank

    May 12, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #27

    Jamshar (or as my spell checker corrects me Jamjar !)

    It’s unlikely (which may be a good thing) that we will be able to attract world class talent once in the Championship. No more ‘I want Champions League football’ being mentioned again.

    The players we probably have a better chance than those other Championship clubs in attracting are the cream of our new league and lower leagues.

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  • Jib

    May 12, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #28

    The Everton performance last was strangely evocative of NUFC’s season.
    They looked a class apart from Sunderland for the first 15 minutes and I thought “wahay The Toffees are going to win here”
    As soon as the unwashed launched their first meaningful assault on Evertons goal the blues asses just went !

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  • Jib

    May 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #29

    last night even

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #30

    Elliott
    Mbabu, Lascelles, Mbemba Dummett
    Roberts, Shelvey, Colback, Aarons
    Mitrovic, Armstrong.
    Combine these with incoming players bought with the money raised from Wijnaldum, Townsend, Sissoko, Janmaat etc and you have a side capable of bouncing straight back up, whether we keep Rafa or not. It’s been our so called big players that have let us down, not our kids. Those above will be a lot stronger for this traumatic experience and will suffer no harm from a season in the Championship. Now, all we need is to lose Charnley and Carr – sadly Ashley owns the club and will only go when he finds a buyer – and have a complete shake up of the backroom staff. Until Rafa makes his plans known, there is little point in speculating over his future, or lack of it, with us. Early days yet.

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  • BandB

    May 12, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #31

    Ibizatoon

    The people under investigation are leading the investigation.
    What could possibly be faulted about that?
    Heads may roll.
    If they inadvertently laugh them off.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 12, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #32

    I’d always enjoyed watching martinez teams previously, but that is another clear example of losing the dressing room, a la SM. Don’t know what happened they used to be great to watch.

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  • Malackay

    May 12, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #33

    Bobbybee – I like the team and theory on paper, but in reality there isn’t really a player in that team with any sort of experience in getting out of the Championship and most are under 25. I thnk we’d be making a huge mistake if you don’t bring real seasoned Championship players.

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #34

    Hail, i said you were a dick. That must be true also. 😉

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 12, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #35

    Martinez is one dimensional imo.

    Attacking stuff is great, but as soon as it stops working, his teams fold like a bad poker hand. They either win well, or get stuffed.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    May 12, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #36

    Our Toon

    Aye he is homegrown, but he’s also coming back from a lengthy injury and will be entering the final year of his contract.

    Shelvey needs to be put on an intensive fitness regime, has the talent of a top PL player, but has the stamina and mobility of a lower league journeyman. Bit like Huddlestone in that respect. Maybe a year in the Champ playing every week is what he needs to become a PL level athlete. Either way I can’t see a team willing to give us £10m+ for him and pay him what we are.

    I sincerely hope you’re wrong about Saylor and Colo, they’re already 3 years overdue their departures. Mbemba, Lascelles, Dummet and 1 experienced CB brought in will put us in great shape in that position.

    Mitro I’m really not sure. Blows hot and cold with his hold-up play and is never going to be a Shearer so he should wave that dream goodbye. Not a natural finisher and not much better with his head.

    Much prefer Armstrong with a clever player that will help get the best out of him, like SDJ, supporting him.

    GK: Darlow, Elliot, Woodman

    RB: Anita, Mbabu

    LB: ?????, ?????

    CB: Lascelles, Mbemba, Dummet, ???????

    CM: Shelvey, Colback, ???????, ???????

    RW: Townsend, ???????

    LW: Aarons, Sammy

    ST or AM: Armstrong, SDJ, ??????, ??????

    £50m on 8 players at least and not a white flag wielding surrender monkey in sight.

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  • BandB

    May 12, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #37

    You know,

    We’ve just been relegated.
    But you can still look at that picture of Charnley with his thumb up and Ashley hugging himself with glee and think….”Well, that’s still the dynamic…
    “. a little snap shot that captures the truth about this club
    “Nothing has changed.
    “And no-one cares.”

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 12, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #38

    Bobby

    That is a decent basis for a championship side (although will we still have mitro and mbemba?). Malakay is right, though, we could do with a hand full of older experienced players to build a championship SQUAD that could get us back up.

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  • Bobbybee

    May 12, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #39

    Malakay, I thought I’d covered that with incoming players bought with the sales money? We obviously need experience and hopefully we’ll buy that. The Championship isn’t better than the PL. It should hold no fears for our young players who will more than hold their own. Getting the right players isn’t my job, so I can’t decide who comes in, but we can use our muscle to persuade players to come – we’re still an actractive proposition to a lot of players.

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  • hibbitt

    May 12, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #40

    Bobbybee

    its in Rafa own best interest to let us know sooner rather than later, if he is going lets have a clean brake ASAP
    at lest it would show he has integrity and is a man of his word

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