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Trying To Make Sense Of How To Overhaul The Newcastle Squad

3:59 pm, Monday, May 16th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 105 Comments

In trying to sort out and make some sense of how the Newcastle squad could be overhauled this summer and assuming it’s Rafa Benitez in charge – we have split players into one of five different categories.

One thing Newcastle must do is to trim the wage bill for next season, and we can do that by selling players or sending them out on loan or not renewing players’ contracts which end on June 30th.

We have put the players into the five categories and have covered 37 players and what could be done with each one of them.

fabricio coloccini

Fabricio Coloccini – will be moved on loan or sold

Here are the various categories and the players in them.

a) Players who will be moved off the wage bill by not renewing their contracts, selling them or loaning them out

  • Sylvain Marveaux and Gabby Obertan left the club on May 5th after an agreement was reached
  • Steven Taylor and Sammy Ameobi have contracts that run out in June and will not be renewed
  • Haris Vuckic has one year left on his contract and he will either be sold or more likely be loaned out – maybe to Rangers FC who are now in the Scottish Premier league.
  • Fabricio Coloccini, Manu Riviere and Yoan Gouffran will be sent out on loan or sold – preferably the latter
  • Seydou Doumbia will return to Roma after his loan spell completes.
  • Remy Cabella is expected to join Marseille for around £6.3M (€8M)and according to reports that deal has already been agreed.
  • Florian Thauvin
  • Henri Saivet

b) Those players who will definitely be staying at Newcastle

  • Karl Darlow, Rob Elliott
  • Vurnon Anita, Jamie Sterry, Chancel Mbemba, Jamaal Lascelles, Paul Dummett, Massadio Haidara, Curtis Good (?)
  • Jack Colback, Jonjo Shelvey
  • Aleksandar Mitrovic, Ayoze Perez, Adam Armstrong, Ivan Toney

c) Younger players whose contracts run out in the summer and Newcastle will likely want to keep at the club, especially if Rafa Benitez continues as the Newcastle manager

  • Kevin Mbabu, Freddie Woodman, Rolando Aarons.

d) Players who are likely to want to leave Newcastle and therefore will be sold

  • Moussa Sissoko, Gini Wijnaldum, Daryl Janmaat, Tim Krul, Andros Townsend

e) Players who Rafa Benitez may want to keep at the club for their experience or at least take a look at them in pre-season. If Rafa doesn’t want them they will be sold

  • Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote

Obviously Rafa will want to bring in some new players to fill out the squad so it is (easily) good enough to get promoted straight back to the Premier League – which is the number one priority for next season.

He can do that with transfer money available from those players sold in categories a) and d)

One thing Rafa may want to do and may be one of the areas of discussion with Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley is hold onto some of his stars by either keeping them at the club next season or  loaning them out for the season.

Those are principally the players in category d) Moussa Sissoko, Gini Wijnaldum, Daryl Janmaat, Tim Krul and Andros Townsend

That’s it.

Who do you think should go and who should stay during the summer?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Championship · Newcastle News · Premier League · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours




105 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    Don’t see the point in loaning them only as a last resort get rid of them for good they’re no good for this club.

    Haidara is questionnable about whether he should stay on, pretty average would rather get a better LB and bring through Liam Gibson.
    Cisse and Tiote I think have to be moved on and will want to finish their career with high wages both of them will probs go to china

  • 2 SuperShearer // May 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    Ed how can you say those players will definitely stay? Arsenal are keen on Perez apparently. Can see Ashley cashing in on anyone who gets a big enough offer in order to balance the books.

  • 3 Essex Geordie Bill // May 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM

    I think Townsend will stay even if Rafa decides not to and he definitely shouldn’t be loaned out.

    Although I reckon Rafa will be staying.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of others tipped to leave don’t.

    Whats the odds on Taylor getting an extension on his contract, Rafa seems to like him and he would probably be up to a season in the champioship.

  • 4 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:13 PM

    Townsend is one of our most important players we cannot lose him.

    Aarons, woodman contracts must be renewed

    Anita again not sure about him, he’s performing well at RB but it’s not his natural position and he’s too lightweight and small for defensive mid, maybe he could settle in at RB but would prefer a young English RB to come in

  • 5 emphraser // May 16, 2016 at 4:15 PM

    I see Perez going, I think he may be at his peak right now, if so best move him while the allure of bigger things to come is still there.

    How about De Jong?

  • 6 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    SS

    Sorry had to laugh a little there, perez to arsenal haahaha, sure the kids got potential I’ve seen nothing that suggests he’s arsenal quality. If we got an offer of £14m+ i’d sell, if not then maybe the championship would be a good league for him to develop in like mitro as well

  • 7 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    emphraser

    De jong never seems to be fit i just don’t think we should bother anymore, decent technically but he’s slow, not very strong reads the game well and is intelligent, but i think he just needs to move on

  • 8 Tsunki // May 16, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Ha ha Jail just checked out Alan B’Slankstards early posting Re Charnley. Well, Rafa is foreign, he’s barely any better than a North East flat cap work dodger, is he 😀

  • 9 Tsunki // May 16, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    Photo caption –

    ” Wheeeeze….pufff…got to remember this ankle is supposed to be injured….gasssp…..pannntttt…but not so much I don’t look like I’ll never make it back for pre-season….pufff…gasssspp…”

  • 10 swemag // May 16, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    There was talk about Barca wanting Perez, and I could see how he would fit in there. Mind you, it seems Ben Arfa is on his way there, might be a bit crowded and as he turned them down before to get playing time it would be weird for him to go there now.

    Aarons is a really important piece to sign up. I heard Arsenal want him.

  • 11 martoon // May 16, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    From memory didn’t Sammy Ameobi sign a 2 year contract before he went on loan at the start of this season or am I mistaken?

  • 12 swemag // May 16, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    And for Townsend…try to loan him for at least one season. When we get back he will be there.

  • 13 lochinvar // May 16, 2016 at 4:27 PM

    Rafa should make Townsend Captain and his experience then brings on the younger players around him.
    It also strengthens the bond and love that’s in the air.

    Add an enforcer in midfield and some cover elsewhere as with 46 league games and two good cup runs and finals to look forward to some rotation might be useful.

  • 14 lochinvar // May 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Rafa needs to ensure the young guns currently in the club and starting to look good stay with him to learn and get us back into the Premiership. Otherwise there would be holes in the master plan.

  • 15 Munster Mag // May 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    I’d love to see us keep Townsend. By the way, can the guys who said he was useless please own up because you were soooo wrong 🙂

  • 16 Munster Mag // May 16, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    Re De Jong, I thought he was a really unathletic looking bloke to be a professional football when he arrived, and I don’t think he suits the speed of the English game. Nice player, but better off in france or Holland IMO

  • 17 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 16, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    The best way to overhaul this squad??? One word….. “Euthanasia”

  • 18 Munster Mag // May 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    By the way, can Ronald de Boer every shut up? Always wittering on about his brother etc. For all the ridiculous love in for him here, apparently everton don’t want him at all.

  • 19 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM

    Martoon

    I think that was the previous season. Not sure though.

  • 20 Munster Mag // May 16, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    sell as many as possible. pease, no loans, lets get money in and buy younger ) players if needed, or older guys with experience from that league. no more wasting time on Collo, Marv ( appreciate he is gone ) etc. BTW, going back again – who said Marv was good. He was always crap, bar a few nice moments. Some guys on here know shit all about football.

  • 21 Munster Mag // May 16, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    Gouffy, riviere ….please….sell !!!

  • 22 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Munster

    From what I’ve heard, apparently FDB really isn’t rated that highly in Holland, its only outside that people seem to rate him

  • 23 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Would still take him if we lost rafa

  • 24 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // May 16, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Munster why do they have to ‘own up’?

    So you can take pride in point scoring? If only there were more important things in life…

  • 25 U.S Magpie // May 16, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    All this talk has Zero bearing on anything, these players you say may likely leave Newcastle? Yes maybe but honestly if Rafa takes over they may stay and honestly they should stay and help Newcastle get back into the Prem. Lets be honest, its there fault they gave up most of the season. Yes I know the coach was shite, but for anyone that played football at any standard knows, you play and give it 100% and win at all costs and its does not mater who the damn coach is. Something most of the players didn’t do all season, and they know it.

  • 26 AndyMac // May 16, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    Bearing in mind the ludicrous amounts we’ve spent with some very poor return and the expensive, lengthy contracts handed out to the likes of Squiddy, Marv and even Saivet it’s a scandal that Kevin Mbabu, Freddie Woodman & Rolando Aarons havent all been tied up to decent long term contracts by now.

    We collectively moan at the poor performances of the Academy both on the pitch and off so why, when we finally have some youngsters with real potential, do we let them slip away and for nowt too ?

  • 27 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // May 16, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    only way to keep towsand for the future is to loan him to a bottom of the table team next year and get him back after the promotion. he got an england call up, if he stays with us next year he can say goodbye to the national team

  • 28 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Time for a big clear out. No loans, if we can’t sell or offload for free, pay up their contracts as should have been done with a few last year.

    Congratulations to Townsend, hopefully he makes the final cut, but even if he doesn’t making the 26 is testament to how he has performed since joining us. I didn’t rate him at all at Spurs, but since arriving here he has been a breath of fresh air, and shown what we have missed out wide all season.

  • 29 mfw13 // May 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Where are you getting your information?

    I’ve seen no evidence that Winaldjum, Krul, Janmaat, or Townsend want to leave Newcastle. Sissoko yes, the others, no.

    And I would be very hesitant to let Coloccini go, especially with Steven Taylor out of contract, since that would leave us with no depth at center back.

    Don’t forget, you play 46 matches in the Championship, not 38, and enter the Cup competitions one round earlier, which makes depth much more crucial since you will likely have more injuries to deal with.

    The only player I’d be ushering out the door would be Cisse, and given our goalkeeping depth, it would make sense to sell Krul. But I wouldn’t be encouraging anybody else to leave unless they’ve already stated that they want to.

  • 30 U.S Magpie // May 16, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Munster, I said when we signed him that if he plays like he did for spurs two seasons ago he would do a great job for Newcastle. I think most people that didn’t rate him said the same thing, it depended on which Andre turned up. So all in all everyone was right and don’t have to own up to anything really. And lets be honest, its only an opinion and he could have been shite. But he wasn’t and that’s that!!!

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    martoon,
    Yeah, Sammi has another year. He signed for 2 last summer.

    First three signings for me would be Trippier, Robertson and Redmond. Then we need an experienced spine, centre half, centre mid, and centre forward.

    Depending on who leaves from the fringe, others could come in, but those 6 would be my priorities.

  • 32 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // May 16, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    Lilongwe

    Agreed on those players.

  • 33 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    AndyMac,
    This isn’t a defence of the club, but they are probably remembering the Nile Ranger fiasco. Aarons and Mbabu could be important for us next year. But both have injury issues, so 2 years with an automatic third based on appearances is probably what the club will look at.

    Woodman probably needs to be on loan playing for a year, maybe 2 as a keeper, and given our strength in that area. It would be prudent to tie him down for 4 or 5 years I think.

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM

    I think Townsend will stay. He seems happy in his football here, and he has been burnt at a big club before. I reckon he will give us a season to bounce back, if we don’t, then he will move on.

  • 35 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:04 PM

    YMFB,
    I still don’t understand why we didn’t go for Trippier last summer. £3.5 million for a young English right back? Surprised how little he has played at Spurs, but he would have easily displaced Janmaat based on how Janmaat has performed.

    Robertson should have been a no brained as well, although Hull probably wanted a lot, and Robertson was probably happy just continuing his progression playing regularly.

  • 36 hibbitt // May 16, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    first we need to know who the manager will be
    that’s the most important signing this summer
    if it’s Rafa things will just fall in place
    players will want to come to Rafa nufc

  • 37 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    Mfw

    The evidence is very clear on Wijnaldum and Janmaat. Both gone missing for the second half for the season and suddenly show up now that we’re relegated…no bottle. Also was that a kiss goodbye in his celebration from Janmaat when he scored??

  • 38 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    MFW,
    I think Janmaat has talked in the last year of playing for a club in European competition if I’m not mistaken. Gini hasn’t said anything, but I think he will have serious reservations about being in the Championship for a year.

    hibbit,
    Yeah, the manager will be a key appointment. I don’t think we would go wrong with any of the three I name check though, regardless of the manager

  • 39 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    MFW,
    I think Janmaat has talked in the last year of playing for a club in European competition if I’m not mistaken. Gini hasn’t said anything, but I think he will have serious reservations about being in the Championship for a year.

    hibbit,
    Yeah, the manager will be a key appointment. I don’t think we would go wrong with any of the three I name check though, regardless of the manager.

    If it is Rafa, it will be interesting to see who he goes for. Stevie G back in England for a year to add experience to the side? Not sure I’d want that, but he isn’t settled or doing well in the US and is close to Rafa. Just a random, baseless thought that came to mind, when looking for experienced players that Rafael knows well and have performed in England.

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    Apologies. Ignore the first of the 2, posted by mistake.

  • 41 Sir Braveheart // May 16, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    I’m hearing a lot of people around saying Townsend won’t stay because it affects his England chances.

    There’s no tournament next year.

    He’s got in the squad off the back of playing every week for Newcastle. He could still play next season for us and then be playing every week in a premiership team again the season after that (us) in time for the world cup.

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    JamesToon,
    Have you seen the photo of Janmaat celebrating his goal, and one Newcastle fan is stood in the front row giving him two fingers. Cracking photo. I saw it on someone’s Facebook.

    I’d probably have celebrated wildly, but think the other lad has it right!

  • 43 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM

    Shelvey’s massive wage is a bit of a problem if it’s true he’s on 80K a week. And his poor play makes it almost impossible to do anything in the way of a trade or sale. I hope Rafa or whoever can motivate him. There are going to be some losses to take as with the release of Obertan and Marveaux. A lot of money down the drain. That’s what happens when you make terrible mistakes in the transfer market.

  • 44 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    It’s going to be the same with Riviere. Who would want him for any kind of fee? He has destroyed his own career as with Obertan.

  • 45 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    There’s also something not quite right about Mitrovic. He looked completely mental yesterday and has behaved that way before. He could have broken a leg with the sending off tackle and he looked like he would’ve liked to take a piece out of the ref as well. What is going on there?

  • 46 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Possibly have Mitro work at a children’s petting zoo this summer? He could learn to calm down while chatting with the kids and feeding the goats…..

  • 47 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    We have flatulent, fainting goats here in Canada that Mitro could also work with. He would have to be a kinder gentler Mitro or they would be passed out all the time after just one of those ref glares he does.

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    GeordieTwo,
    I think we have to cut our losses with Riviere and allow someone to take him for free, even if it means topping up his wages like City had to do with Adebayor at Spurs. Having said that, he will be more at home in the Championship and could be a useful squad player.

    Mitro needs to learn to control his emotions better. He is young and hot headed, much like a few other notable strikers to come to the Prem, but there is a lot to like about him for in my opinion. He does need to mature mentally, both with controlling his aggression and with his composure on the ball, some of that will come with age, but he also needs to work on it.

  • 49 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    Is Mitro on any medication? Possibly up the dose until we’re out of the Championship…..

  • 50 Shadow_Shearer // May 16, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    Why keep cisse on. One mistake benitez made was using cisse to much. After mitrovic scored against sunderland, soon after he was dropped for cisse. In that time the only goal or contribution cisse made was a goal against liverpool. Give him credit for that one goal but mitrovic would have scored that aswel.

  • 51 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    Spot on Lilongwe mate. I worry about Mitro though. He looks a bit too close to the edge sometimes. And I agree we just have to release Riviere. Not sure what they’ll do with some of the lads that started as kids with us either. Good has been a disaster with the terrible injuries. I don’t think Vuckic has made much progress so what good will loaning him out to Rangers do? Bigi seems to have been passed by as well.

  • 52 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    Mitro got 9 goals and around 5 or 7 assists (depending on which site you look at) in 22 starts and 12 sub appearances. That isn’t bad at all for a kid new to the league. His problem was the club failing to sign someone to shoulder the burden. Lukaku only got 10 goals the season before this in the Prem in a far more attacking side, and in a league he was used to.

  • 53 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    I’m looking into sending you lot some flatulent, fainting goats for your half time entertainment in the Championship.

  • 54 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    You have to admit though that Mitro lacks pace Lilongwe mate. And guile. He’s more or less a giant, glaring bulldozer sent out to terrify wor opponents and the ref. I’m happy with that!

  • 55 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    GTwo,
    Cyclic hasn’t had a great season in League 1 this year, again, injuries played their part. Possibly another squad filler until his contract is up. Likewise Sammi at Cardiff, although he racked up appearances, most were as a sub.

    Bigi struggled at Coventry as well, he looked so promising. Can’t help but feel his progress was significantly hindered by firstly not going on loan prior to falling ill, and secondly this mystery illness he had whilst at Rangers. Not to mention him being used at centre half for our u21’s.

    Good needs to head back to Aus I think. Recover and rebuild his career with family around him for support.

    It will be interesting to see which others break through. I’d love to see Heaney out on loan till Jan and then brought back if he is doing well. Arma, Aarons, Mbabu will all benefit from the Championship, as will a few others like Sherry, Roberts and Gibson potentially.

  • 56 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 16, 2016 at 5:49 PM

    I think there is hope for mitro, if he stays.

  • 57 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Why don’t we all get together and buy Mitro a puppy? Surely that will improve his mood?

  • 58 BandB // May 16, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Good stuff Lil’

  • 59 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    Suppose everything is agreed between the club and Benitez, but the latter makes the proviso that he will take the Spain job if it’s offered. What then? Enter Warnock, stage right?

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    GTwo,
    Yeah, he lacks pace. But surround him with players that have it and provide service and he will get goals.

    He, Townsend, Arma, Aarons and Redmond would be a fairly difficult prospect for any championship defence, regardless of which 3 or 4 you selected.

  • 61 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Or we could bring Mitro’s mum to the matches. I’m sure she could settle him. Possibly his puppy held by his mum while she watches him play? It’s just that I fear for some of those Championship players and refs if we can’t get him calmed doon.

  • 62 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    That would be a very good attacking lineup indeed Lilongwe mate. I’m positively drooling at the thought. Pardon me while I get a paper towel.

  • 63 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    When asked if he would stick with United after relegation, Perez told the Chronicle: “Yes of course. I am with the team, I am with this city and I am with everybody.

    “I want to be here to fight for the team and to come back. We need everybody to be together and be like a team.”

  • 64 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    BandB,
    Never know how to take comments like that! If you are being serious, then cheers. If not, please expand.

    Did you watch yesterday? I missed it as my team had a game, but it sounds like it was a cracking performance and a grea

  • 65 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    I like the sound of that Ron Knee mate! Right then, I’m buying Perez a puppy as well!!!

  • 66 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    BandB,
    Apologies. My phone screen is cracked and because of that touching the screen in certain places makes it post, or types the wrong letters, dependant on the screens position.

    I was trying to say a great display of support for the manager and club from the fans. I can’t imagine many other clubs having that sort of last day game when they were already down. Can’t help but think Ashley has got off lightly though, and if Benitez doesn’t get appointed he has all summer to hide.

  • 67 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    I just want everybody to remember that this is serious Championship planning business we’re doing on here. So keep you comments crisp, pithy and to the point!!!

  • 68 hibbitt // May 16, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    Ron Knee

    if it’s warnock god help charnley

  • 69 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:02 PM

    Ashley can’t hide from me Lilongwe mate. I’ve got a miniature tracking device planted on him.

  • 70 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    Ron,
    That is promising. Next year could be the making of him if he can live with the extra physicality and develop alongside it. Not entirely sure where he fits in anymore, he has a lot of good attributes, but nothing that makes him a shoo in for a certain position.

  • 71 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    hibbit,
    If it is Warnock, God help all of us!

  • 72 BandB // May 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM

    Lil’

    I agree with it all.
    Elegantly written as ever, too.
    Mitro’s goal was the best of the five. A gigantically deliberate piece of strength and finishing. His return hadn’t been bad at. First season, young player in a struggling team. And he is deceptively good on the ground, and can spot a pass.
    If Rafa stays and gets his way I think he’ll want Mitro to stay and I think he’ll say yes. Same with Townsend.
    I hope the changes come in the midfield engine room and I think that’s where I would expect Rafa to focus his attention.
    My abiding image of Janmaat will be him tearing off his shirt after being sent off for a niggling foul. I think he, Colocinni, Cisse and Sissoko out of the door would lance a considerable boil.
    If Rafa stays with the title of manager, my boycott is over.

  • 73 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    hibbitt

    They’ll run him out of town on a rail!

    Lilongwe

    Perez is skilful but his decision-making lets him down at times.

  • 74 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:10 PM

    That was a ghost of a Spurs team yesterday. Bizarre behaviour by them. To ship 3 goals against 10 men? Hard to believe. Mitro’s goal was very good. But then he lost his mind for some reason.

  • 75 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    I once lost my mind but then I find it in a lost and found in Edmonton. So……I’m not sure what my point was there.

  • 76 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    G2

    Spurs were under-strength, too.

  • 77 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:15 PM

    But still Ron mate. They were horrible. Pochettino looked like he was going to have some kind of flatulent, fainting spell near the end. And I really was disturbed by Mitro. He could get himself into some serious trouble unless he calms down.

  • 78 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    G2

    Tsunki likened Pochettino’s fit to McClaren’s antics. Not in the same class, in my opinion. But then McClaren had lots more practice!

  • 79 Jib // May 16, 2016 at 6:20 PM

    Mitro with a puppy

  • 80 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 16, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Just heard a interview with Townsend’s dad who reckons that Townsend would like to stay at the TOON

  • 81 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    That’s not quite what I had in mind Jib….Harrumph!

  • 82 JP...from The Rock // May 16, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    From Category D, i think we should sell Sissoko and Krul but keep the likes of Townsend, Wijnaldum and Janmaat. People can say what they like of Wijnaldum but when was the last time we had a midfielder as technically gifted and scored 11 goals in one season? Not since Cabaye. We need goals from midfield and he scores them.

  • 83 BandB // May 16, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    Mitro has likely grown up pumped with notions of honour and never letting an insult go unavenged.
    He will meet some hard old pros in the Championship who will be able the break both his legs and still get HIM sent off.
    He’s a big, prodigious kid. It might be the making of him.

  • 84 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    BandB,
    Yeah, I think Sissoko and Janmaat have dragged some of the others down with them. Colo is aging and a different problem for me, I had no problem with him being here this year, but an extension was baffling to all except the bean counters. I wonder if they still consider it a better financial option?

    Now is the time (a year too late imo) for a considerable clear out – Mitro shouldn’t be one of them, and I doubt he will be angling for a move. His family may be the issue, and may well cause a bit of unrest. It would be good to see him come out and say he has no intention of leaving to put speculation to bed. Likewise Townsend, Lascelles and Mbemba.

  • 85 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    JP,
    I’d let Janmaat go as well. I doubt he would have the stomach for the Championship and someone like Trippier could be more effective defensively whilst also still offering an attacking outlet.

  • 86 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    Benitez was also asked if senior players such as Moussa Sissoko, Gini Wijnaldum and Daryl Janmaat would definitely be sold.

    He said: “At the moment I can’t say nothing because we are still talking. But the idea is that the majority of the players they would stay. It depends.

    “Maybe we will receive a massive offer for a player we have to consider but the players know at the moment they have to stay. Then the club will decide little by little on each individual.”

  • 87 lesh // May 16, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    Essex

    Saylor’s so injury prone and when he’s playing, clumsy.

    He’s not worth keeping when he’s on god knows how many thousands a week he’s on and at best, we could expect a third of a season from him.

    As he’s a local lad, he’d fit in nicely at Sunlund!

  • 88 JamesToon // May 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    Lilongwe

    I agree however I don’t think Spurs will sell trippier and if they did he’d get premier league offers. Dominic Iorfa I think would be a good replacement or Carl Jenkinson

  • 89 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    Ron,
    If they are waiting for massive offers, then not many will be leaving.

    I’ll be stunned if any of those players are still here next season, with or without massive offers.

  • 90 Yo-yo // May 16, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    Whoever else stays and goes – if Coloccini and Taylor are retained, so will our status in the second string. They are part of the problem not the solution

  • 91 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    James,
    Is Iorfa not more of a centre half? That is the young lad from wolves isn’t it?

    Jenkinson would be a good option. I think Spurs could let Trippier go, or Trippier could press for a move. He hasn’t played much at all this year.

  • 92 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Janmaat for me needs to go. And Wijnaldum just doesn’t look to have the stomach for a fight in the Championship. We need a good hard AM for that division and I’m fairly certain it’s not Shelvey. Yes Mitro does look like he’s trying to avenge an insult to his family from 1850. If I was Rafa I would try to learn some hilarious jokes to tell him in Serbian during the half time talks. Just crack him up and lighten the mood.

  • 93 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    Lilongwe

    I’d be pleased to see the back of that particular trio.

    What are your thoughts on Shelvey?

  • 94 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    James,
    Just googled him, a right back who can play centrally. 6ft4 as well. Would certainly be an interesting signing, but possibly as a young back up to both roles with more experience coming in.

    I think experience is going to be key, and we can get that whilst still buying young for the Championship.

  • 95 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM

    I think you answered my question!

  • 96 BandB // May 16, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Rafa is right.

    We need to keep the majority of these players. We will have a team that will do okay in the Championship and still let the trench dodgers, lead swingers and “why on earth?” players go, even at a huge loss.
    Our kids, meanwhile have been losing to the KIDS in THIS league.
    We need a right back, a central midfield pairing, and someone to play wide left to make Aarons work for a breakthrough.
    Remember, even Shola looked like the Masked Avenger at this level.

  • 97 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    That was G2! I think I’ll go and have a lie down.

  • 98 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Thank you Ron mate! I always try to answer your questions. Now….. Harrumph I agree the club has had a disappointing season but at the same time many on here have had disappointing seasons as well. My much heralded Rank the Bloggers posting will be coming up soon so you all should tune in and read about yourselves. It will be a hoot.

  • 99 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Ron,
    It depends on Shelvey. He has it in him to be a very good player. Needs an attitude change, a real shame he doesn’t have a wage reduction clause in/was given such a high wage to start with. The club were clearly desperate, and I doubt he was high on the list.

    Still, get his head right and he could be an important player for us. He would benefit from having an experienced head next to him, or even just in the squad who can help him. Dare I say it, but Barton is probably the exact sort of player that could help him lift his game if anyone can.

    Can’t see him being in demand, so I think he will be here. The rest is largely down to him and his determination to salvage a faltering reputation and career.

  • 100 Jib // May 16, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    G dos
    When you Rank the Bloggers (imagine how Johnathan Ross would pronounce that ) could you give a special mention to the inventor of Cerveza San Miguel ?

  • 101 GeordieTwo // May 16, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    You dare say it Lilongwe mate. And I would agree. Bring that old hard man Barton back! He’s a sly old devil by now. Give him some playing time alongside Shelvey. We will need replacements for Sissoko and Wijnaldum. And as everyone says a RB replacement for Janmaat and some CB cover once Saylor and Colo are gone. Lots of rebuilding to do. I for one am looking forward to it finally getting done.

  • 102 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    GTwo,
    I doubt Barton would come, and I’m sure a story came out over the weekend, or back end of last week that McClaren wanted him but the board vetoed it. I have been very busy though, and just saw something on twitter, so may have got the wrong end of the stick.

  • 103 Ron Knee // May 16, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    Lilongwe

    Shelvey’s debut match for us was very impressive. What happened to his form? It’s a puzzle.

  • 104 Wayayman // May 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Yep Lilo, Barton himself said it on Talk Sport last week. He also said that the answer came back that the Pope has more chance of playing for Newcastle than him.

    I’d love Rafa to stay then offer John Terry a crackin one year deal with coaching possibilities afterwards. Terry would be immense in the Championship and could be amazing for the young raw defenders we have coming through like Lascelles and Mbemba, Mbabu, Sterry etc to learn from . Dream time I know!

  • 105 Lilongwe Geordie // May 16, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Ron,
    Shelvey just looks like someone who feels he has done it and doesn’t need to work anymore. He doesn’t appear to have the drive or determination to push himself on. It is all down to his attitude for me. He just doesn’t work hard enough or seem to want to.

    Wayayman,
    Real shame that the board couldn’t look past it for the good of the club. Terry would be interesting, he would certainly do a job, and add real leadership qualities. Not likely though. We were allegedly close to signing him once before, just before Roman bought the club as Chelsea needed the cash. Him and Woodgate….

    I mentioned Gerrard earlier, given his Raga connections, and LA not working out too well he would have a similar effect. Again, very unlikely.




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