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How Mike Ashley Can Help With The Revenues Next Season

9:46 am, Tuesday, May 17th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 132 Comments

Whenever St. James’ Park comes on the TV screens all you see are hundreds of Sports Direct advertising signs – they are all over the place – and even when we sign new players there just so happens to be Sports Direct signs behind them when the players are photographed.

Lee Charnley explained why Newcastle received nothing from Ashley’s company for the world-wide advertising during one of the Fan Forum meetings and his explanation was both stupid and hilarious.


Mike Ashley at St. James’ Park on Sunday

Lee basically said the Sports Direct signs were all in fact available advertising space – and that the club were just waiting for companies to come in and request the advertising space.

No companies had requested the advertising space – so the Sports Direct signs remained in place.

Well, wasn’t that rather convenient …..

Maybe if the signs said something like “this space is available for advertising” with a telephone number listed – companies would come in for the space – but what told them the space was even available?

Lee also mentioned there was an interest-free loan outstanding, which Lee said was also taken into consideration for not charging for the advertising – but Newcastle need additional money now and the owner of the club can help with that.

And in any case wasn’t that a loan from Mike himself rather than from Sports Direct?

The answer given of course was pure fiction and Lee really has to stop talking nonsense during these Fan Forum meetings when he appears to assume those listening are stupid and ignorant.

There were hints earlier in the year that Mike Ashley may be willing to start paying for the advertising space he gets for his company and now would be a great time to do just that.

Etihad Airlines pay Manchester City a massive £40M a year for the naming rights of their stadium and in a new deal being negotiated that rises to £80M a year.

Why wouldn’t Mike offer say £10M a year (think of  a number – the bigger the better) for the advertising space –  and that money would help us for the coming financial year in the Championship.

Maybe the extra £10M would even mean the club doesn’t have to lay off some of the non-playing staff to cut down on the running costs?

It will not be worth that much in the Championship with the games not getting the worldwide coverage like the Premier League games get every week.

But it would be a start and we could use the £10M or more this coming season – and then maybe if we get straight back up then that £10M amount would rise significantly.

It would help with the commercial revenues at Newcastle, which have never been particularly strong and are not growing.

From a Sports Direct viewpoint it’s all a tax-deductible expense in any case, so why wouldn’t Ashley do the right thing and pay for the advertising he currently gets free of charge?

And hopefully with Rafa Benitez coming in and running the club like a proper club for the first time in almost a decade – maybe it’s time for Sports Direct to pay up.

Remember, it would benefit Mike Ashley because it would help Newcastle United – one of his companies.

Just like the formidable Rafa Benitez can make Newcastle United FC into one of the top clubs in Europe over the next few years and grow Ashley investment significantly.

After all, that’s exactly what Rafa wants to do.

Bottom line – time for Mike Ashley to pay up and also help the club.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Championship · Financial Fair Play · Financials · Newcastle News · Other News · Premier League

132 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    No-one would be “carrying the can” anyway.
    Carr would become surplus to requirements and possibly given a nominal consultancy role.
    Ashley doesn’t banish good servants to the outer darkness.
    The scouting operation had been pared back to nothing. It isn’t a biggy.
    Bobby will go back to backslapping in the executive boxes and the “football board” would be never spoken of again.
    Finally, George Caulkin says this is all very positive but still being tied up.
    To me, and almost every person who writes one of the news reports you read over the next few days, that’s Gospel.

  • 2 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    is that wonga finished ????

  • 3 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    Ashley sacking Charnley would be as logical as Harry Corbett sacking Sooty.

  • 4 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    I’ve never understood why SD don’t just become our main sponsor – names on shirts etc. Obviously they would have to pay for this but I always thought this was a tax deductible expense (although I’m no accountant). Although not the most reputable of companies they are slightly better than Wonga!

  • 5 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    Do people think this is a “Nice” idea or “Ginger Nuts”? 🙂

  • 6 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    I find it bizarre that Charnley can keep his job. The board was given 80m smackers to strengthen the squad and we got relegated. The money was wasted overall – with individual exceptions – because we got relegated. That has cost a further 100m quid and any potential prize money from next season.
    Just because Rafa has bailed them out by making an offer they’d be stupid to refuse, surely that doesn’t make up for this seasons failure? Still, if Ashley chooses to reward failure, there’s little we can say. At least he won’t be involved in any decision making re the squad and Carr looks to be on his way out also. Not happy with Carr’s contribution, but also don’t see why he should carry the can for both mens failures. I’d sack both of them and start the Rafalution with fresh faces all round.

  • 7 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:03 AM


    Would Sooty SUE? Or would they try to SWEEP it under the carpet?

  • 8 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:04 AM


    Thats a yellow card, I already used ‘nice’.

    Anyway, its getting bourbon now….. ok thats rubbish, sorry.

  • 9 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    Martoon, Raffa cakes – there’s orangey 😉

  • 10 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Really hope carr isn’t given any consultancy role, as he largely championed SM, as well as bringing a stream of totally unsuitable (Mondial) players.

    Also really hope it’s the end of Wonga too. Maybe finally ash will get some credibility by default.

  • 11 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    I think Ashley would have put SD’s name on the Rangers shirt.
    Perhaps he never saw us as being the right vehicle. A bit cheap and nasty.
    I think he could do it if Wonga want out and I’d be less ashamed of the SD logo. Maybe the players could do without the reminder of the type of club we have been every time they pull on the shirt too.
    Parting with Wonga would be a very reassuring signal.

  • 12 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    YCMIU – Damn you I should have used Custard Cream Oreo Crunch Cream of an idea 🙂

  • 13 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:11 AM


    i would have no problem with as long as they paid the going rate

    a lot on here have a go at SD but for millions of families its a good source of well priced sports goods and clothing every time ashley is mentioned in the press the 2 are linked so why not

  • 14 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM


    I would have been out FOXed (ok thats a brand), by that. Sometimes I wish I was a Rich Tea Magnate, instead of living on crumbs.

  • 15 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    BandB @11 – The only worry would be that they would want to rename the ground back to the SDA!

  • 16 ToonRich // May 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    When does the Puma kit deal expire?? They really need to up their game, give us a kit like Borussia Dortmund’s new one (obviously in black and white!)…and replace Wonga as already mentioned!!

    I would love it, absolutely love it – if we went back to adidas and N.B.Ale 🙂
    But Adidas wont touch MA with a bardge pole after he screwed them out of millions!

  • 17 Tsunki // May 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    I can see the main problem with sacking Sooty would be the difficulty in withdrawing the arm in this case.

  • 18 expatmag // May 17, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    Firebug and YCMIU

    My.point is that whilst we can all jump up and down, wave our knickers in the air and blame all and sundry, npne of us are fully aware of what is going on in the halls of power.

    In my opinion, Charnley has the most difficult job of all. He has to try and keep all parties in the hierachy happy. This is no mean feat when one side provides insufficient funds snd the other party provides unrealistic player lists.

    In order to compete with bigger and better located clubs on a much smaller budget under stringent conditions set, I would say Charnley gad a very difficult task.

    We all can see the mistakes made. Most of yhese are made by one side or the other. Carr and his cronies sourcing wrong player fits, Ashley not providing decent funding.

    Charnley seems to be the meat in the sandwich and I would hate his job under those conditions

  • 19 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:17 AM


    And the prosecution would have a strong hand.

  • 20 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    YCMIU – Well if we are going to get contrived – I hear we are signing a new player Gari Baldi – he’s cheap because we are short (of) bread – Ok I’ll get me coat now 🙂

  • 21 Hail Wor Ashley // May 17, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Maybe Carr has been wielding more power than we realise. Recommending players, but also recommending the framework for negotiations, whilst Charnley is just the suited and booted face of negotiations. A puppet being controlled by another puppet. It was said he was the one gunning for Schteve’s arrival.

    Maybe that’s exactly what ‘they’ want us to think eh, JfA?

    *cue X-Files music*

  • 22 Tsunki // May 17, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    I don’t know how or why these biscuits jokes started but I refuse to join this assortment. Don’t try and encourage me either, I won’t wafer.

  • 23 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:22 AM


    we all assume that ashley gave charnley full control because ashley said he was stepping back
    what if he didn’t but just stepped into the shadow but still pulled the strings and made the decisions we only have ashley word that did
    and we all know what that’s worth

  • 24 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    I was never as outraged about that as some.
    Sponsorship is part of sport now and lots of old ground names have vanished.
    I don’t care much for the Kia Oval of the Crabbie’s Grand National either, but it keeps them going.

  • 25 Shadow_Shearer // May 17, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    As long as ashley is willing to let benitez work his magic at newcastle, & giving him full contract of all footballing matters, I couldn’t care less about the sports direct signs at sjp.

  • 26 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM


    Yeah parts of his job have been hard, no doubt, but a big part of our relegation has got to be blamed on the hiring and delayed firing of Wally. I know Carr had a hand in that too, but even Penfold should have been badgering Mash to get rid at the end of january. Raffa had been sacked by RM by then, and was obviously looking to get straight back into football. He has been keen on us since day one, and obviously really thinks it’s worth staying.

    Did charnley have no win situations? Yes.
    Was this situation one of them (THE KEY situation imo) No. It was a no brainer, and it was ultimately devastating to the season.

  • 27 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    the thing is any product at SD falls apart, cheap, nasty and never lasts. buy cheap, buy twice.

  • 28 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:28 AM


    No, you can stay, as long as you change your name to Maccaroon!

  • 29 lesh // May 17, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    Now Berb, how’s it gannen?

    I never heard you chanting Rafa’s name for me. Did you forget?


  • 30 Jib // May 17, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    Brendan Pearson-Sammy Ameobi-Adam Armstrong-Gael Bigirimana-Liam Smith-Haris Vuckic-Kyle Cameron-Lubo Satka-Macaulay Gillesphey-Alex Gilliead .
    The above have all returned from loan spells plus Ivan Toney from Barnsley next week.
    The coaches will have to assess them all before any decisions on ins and outs are made.
    There will be a few young men looking forward to a career kick start in the next few weeks.

  • 31 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Rotonda heights

    sorry mate thats just not true

  • 32 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    BandB @24 – Yeah I tend to agree and if Rafa signs and we start on an upward trend then I think people would be more accepting. Maybe a compromise name although The Sports Direct St James’ Park is a bit of a gobful!

  • 33 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Hibbett, i refuse to even get drawn into ‘what if’!! We can only go on what was said really and it certainly looked that way. Chumlee hired Macca and failed to sack him earlier than he did. On those grounds alone, he failed us, because no ifs, buts or maybes, had Rafa been given four weeks extra to save us, the evidence overwhelmingly points towards him being capable of doing so. Obviously none of us really knows what goes on – with the exception of those who know everything and stated catagorically that Rafa would not sign and we’re all delusional idiots for thinking he might – so we’re all guessing.

  • 34 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM


    The St James Sports Direct Park might work. Id still rather not sully the name, though.

  • 35 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    YCMIU @28 – I have fell victim to the autocorrect on here many times and been call maroon 🙂

  • 36 Average_Contents // May 17, 2016 at 10:35 AM


    I believe mark and firebug have answered basically the same as I would.

    On the flip side, what makes you think he’s not happy to fulfil his role. The role he’s gladly taken on.

    Have you got insider info? Do you walk the halls of power within SJP lol. Sorry couldn’t resist 😉

    We could go on forever regarding this subject. Just chasing tails. Shall we agree to disagree.

    Anyway, my lads got a follow-up scan on his hip soon so I’m off for now.

  • 37 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:35 AM


    But they could call it that…retaining the SJP …as in St James’ Park sponsored by SD.
    No-one would be forced to call it the Sports Direct Arena, and we WERE being ORDERED to refer to it as the Sports Direct Arena.
    I used to call it “The Gallowgate”, “Barrack Road”, and all sorts to avoid mentioning Sports Direct, and so did plenty of others.

  • 38 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Lesh, you’re joking? Not only did i chant your name, but i got the other silly buggers around me doing the same for everyone on my list! We had a good bit of fun with it to be honest. 😉

  • 39 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    YCMIU @34 If it was a way to legally divert money from SD into NUFC then I think most would accept it. Somebody on here was saying that the FFP rules are more stringent in the Championship so we may have to do some sort of accountancy trick like this.

  • 40 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:39 AM


    Even the cooncil refused to change the road signs. It was funny when he thought he could force us to call it something else. I never heard ANYONE call it the SD arena. It was just point blank refusal. Even the media used to slip up and call it sjp, and often found ways of reminding people of it’s proper name anyway (here i am ar the sd arena, formerly sjp). It is almost a sureal situation.

  • 41 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:40 AM


    this came from a good friend at Boro

    its was Carr who hired Mc and Carr who gave him the time

  • 42 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:41 AM


    Hope the scan yeilds positive results. Take care mate.

  • 43 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    It always amazed me why he didn’t just get Sports Direct to pay £10 million for advertising and then charge 10 the club ten percent interest on the loan, which would be 12 million

    Then award himself and family wages of £6 million a year and bonuses of 4 million a year. Maybe open up a couple of offices in Spain as well.

    Some fans would seem to prefer it being done like that.

    Of course, the club would be a lot worse off but that doesn’t seem to bother some fans.

  • 44 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    PLUS Lesh, it might even have worked! The noise was relentless and it certainly had the desired effect on the man himself. You can consider your vocal efforts as magnificent my friend. Well done indeed. 😉

  • 45 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:43 AM


    dont you mean MAGnificent

  • 46 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 17, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    No one respond to the obvious troll-post.

  • 47 Tsunki // May 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    I agree with the view that Carr made the football decisions with Lee as the man who had hold of the cheque and paying-in book. Charnley has no football idea and as far as discernible, no contacts in the sporting side of the business save for the great denture-mislaying scout. In Carr we Trust? Dear oh dear that’s embarrassing now, isn’t it?

  • 48 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Hibbett. What a state of affairs when boro fans know more than any of us what’s really happening at SJP. I suspect his info was as much second hand as the info we get though. I don’t see why Carr carries the can when Charnley was the MD that’s all. Then again, my opinion is like everybody elses when it comes to what happens at SJP – worthless. 😉

  • 49 Tsunki // May 17, 2016 at 10:48 AM

    The sums are stupid anyway.

  • 50 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    funlovingexpress @43 – I’m not following your logic we are talking about alterative ways to put extra money in the club not take it out. One thing about Ashley is that he has never paid himself a salary unlike other owners Hall & Shepherd!

  • 51 Tsunki // May 17, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    I think it was a conjoined role they ‘enjoyed’. A bit like a panto horse but with no head end.

  • 52 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:50 AM


    I don’t know that it is a troll post.
    But I do hope it is an argument that we no longer need to have.
    Most of the antipathy Ashley has attracted has been because his actions have seemed symptomatic of a disinterest in having a team that was competitive on the pitch.

  • 53 Ketsbaia9 // May 17, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    Ins and Outs this summer now Rafa is staying:


    John Terry
    Mbaye Niang
    Sandro Ramirez



    Job done. Keep Cabella and Thauvin as we need wingers. Rafa might want them.

  • 54 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    YCMIU – sorry too late!

  • 55 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    I’ll stick with what I’ve always said – both should go. Not one or the other – both. Both failed, both should go. Anybody needing that making any clearer?

  • 56 Ketsbaia9 // May 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM



    Anita Mbemba Terry Santon

    Townsend Sissoko Odegaard Thauvin

    Mitrovic Mbaye Niang

  • 57 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Very clear Bobby and very concise.
    You couldn’t improve on it.

  • 58 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    Good old kets – you never give up about Santon – also I’m pretty sure Cabella is a done deal.

  • 59 Ron Knee // May 17, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    “Benitez is not understood to have demanded the removal of Carr but there’s an understanding on the part of all parties that United will be going in a different direction. Benitez’s close ally Owen Brown, who held a number of roles at Liverpool including in recruitment, has been working with the club since March.”

  • 60 ToonRich // May 17, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    @53, Krul seems quite happy to stay and help us get back up…would you kick him out even if he wasnt looking to move?

  • 61 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM

    sorry mate not a fan an ex player who now works for steve gibson at rockcliff hall and played for Mc when he was manager there still plays golf with him

  • 62 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 10:57 AM


    Benitez will not be demanding sackings.
    Just room to swing his arms.

  • 63 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    Exactly my argument. Except I don’t see anyone would be prepared to pay £10m for advertising. Check out other clubs “total” commercial revenues.

    In rubbising the explanation of the link between the advertising and the loan, Ed says, “And in any case wasn’t that a loan from Mike himself rather than from Sports Direct?” He then suggests Mike should pay for the advertising himself; the more the better. (“…Mike Ashley may be willing to start paying for the advertising space he gets for his company and now would be a great time to do just that.”) So should Mike be paying or not? Or should SD be paying for it? If SD are paying, they can buy that advertising from a EPL club and seek out the cheapest deal. They always have been able to do that if they wanted to.

  • 64 Ron Knee // May 17, 2016 at 11:01 AM


    Benitez knows best!

  • 65 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Hibbett, yes it was MAGnificent 😉 Hopefully it will now be rewarded. We put the future of NUFC ahead of any personal animosity towards the hierarchy and did the right thing. Not bad for a bunch of happy clappers who are to blame for all the woes connected to the club eh? 😉 😉 😉

  • 66 Hail Wor Ashley // May 17, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    Kets, you used to be subtle with your absurd leanings, carefully walking the high wire between sincerity and spoof.

    Since you received recognition and went mainstream, your content has gone down hill.

  • 67 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    I agree Martoon and yet some whinge about the advertising space lack of income.

    At the end of the day Benitez will only sign if he gets what he wants and that will include a transfer budget.

    Whether he has to create that himself through the sale of the odd player or whether he is given it is up to them to thrash out.

    If Benitez signs he is happy with whatever has been proposed and if he is happy then I am happy.

  • 68 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 11:03 AM


    sorry, but it is in my experience. everything i’ve ever bought there has fallen apart in no time at all.

  • 69 Jib // May 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    Georginio Wijnalaldum £14.5m
    Aleksandar Mitrovic £13m
    Chancel Mbemba £7m
    Ivan Toney £500,000
    Florian Thauvin £12m
    Henri Saivet £5m
    Jonjo Shelvey £12m
    Andros Townsend £12m

    To say say Charnley wasted £80 million is plain daft.
    He spent the money (£76 million actually) and we were relegated true , but the relegation was down to the bad choice of McClaren not the choice of players as Rafa has proven.
    It is all very well the usual suspects acting all sagacious , nodding their head , saying ” I told you so ”
    Last Summer I clearly recall the majority saw SM as a huge improvement on Carver and even Pardew.

    B and B always had her reservations and Ed never really rated him but there were a lot who believed he would do a job (me include ).

    This trend to find a whipping boy ( Lord of the Flies syndrome) is quite distasteful and not very constructive.

  • 70 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    I can see the way this is headed……


  • 71 wynsleap // May 17, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    Surely if the advertising is for the paying off of the loan the number of years this has been going on should have seen the loan reducing rapidly?
    Or am I missing something here?
    Apologies if this has already been said elsewhere.
    Don’t get on here so much now.

  • 72 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    I’ve just been looking at FFP rules in the Championship:
    “stay within the maximum permitted deviation of £13m (£5m loss plus £8m shareholder investment) for the 2015/16 season. ”

    Any club exceeding the maximum permitted deviation that wins promotion to the Premier League will receive a fine equivalent to:

    – 1% of the excess amount between £1 and £100,000

    – 20% of the excess amount between £100,001 and £500,000

    – 40% of the excess amount between £500,001 and £1,000,000

    – 60% of the excess amount between £1,000,001 and £5,000,000

    – 80% of the excess amount between £5,000,001 and £10,000,000

    – 100% of any excess over £10,000,000

    Considering the money in the Premiership – seems to me to be a risk worth taking and just pay the fine!

  • 73 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Not a jibe Jib…
    I was typing before you posted.
    It could be a good week 🙂
    For us all.
    For a change.

  • 74 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Hibbett, either way marra, one’s gone when imo both should go. What happens behind the scenes is something I’ll never get to know, but from the outside looking in – the mind boggles. I bet we all wish we had a job where failure gets rewarded – depending on who you are! My main concerns are, and always have been, what happens on the pitch and keeping Rafa will be possibly the best thing ever to happen here. The future will be bright regardless of who’s doing what behind the scenes.

  • 75 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    Blackley I don’t see us getting 10 million either but I went with that figure because that was the one being bandied about.

    What quite a few seem to not understand is that if we did it in the way many want, the club would have less money.

    What I mean by that is that Ashley takes out less even with free advertising than Shepherd and Hall did with selling it.

    Yet he gets more stick for it.

    People now want their cake and eat it. They want him to pay for advertising, not draw a wage and still give an interest free loan.

    Many of the ones that want that say he doesn’t care about the club. It’s laughable.

    I have no problem with people criticising his appointments, they have been shocking, but when it comes to the finances he has always done us a solid IMO.

  • 76 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    i think SM’s most obvious failing was only ever playing for a point every away match.

    Georginio Wijnalaldum £14.5m Half success

    Aleksandar Mitrovic £13m Half success

    Chancel Mbemba £7m Success

    Ivan Toney £500,000 Not seen enough of

    Florian Thauvin £12m DISASTER

    Henri Saivet £5m Not seen enough of

    Jonjo Shelvey £12m VERY DISAPPOINTING

    Andros Townsend £12m Unqualified success

  • 77 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    There’s a difference between the servicing of a loan (interest) and the repayment of it (capital). The benefit Ashley provides is granting the club an interest free loan. Charnley’s explanation seeks to link the free advertising with the benefit of the interest free loan. Repaying the loan capital is a different, separate issue.

  • 78 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    Jib @69 – you are right and I was one of those people. BUT by Christmas a lot of us had changed our minds and after the Chelsea humiliation before the international break is was patently obvious but we delay and delay until it was too late and that is pure incompetence by Charnley.

  • 79 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    The club always explained that the free advertising was quid pro quo for the interest free loan.
    Personally, I’d like to see him reduce the loan.
    It’s hardened debt at a historical high level for this club.
    If we are making money, we should be paying it off.

  • 80 firebug666 // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    ‘Rafa Benitez only manages for himself’ – Richard Keys launches attack on Newcastle boss

  • 81 Ron Knee // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM


    I think you’re being too kind to Wijnaldum.

  • 82 Jib // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    I said about 5 weeks ago that the acquisition of Benitez would probably save Charnley’s job – so it has proven and to cavail about him not getting the push is petty.

  • 83 lesh // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM



    You did a fine job on Sunday.

  • 84 Mister Tuff // May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Massive difference between finding a whipping boy and exposing a knobber.

  • 85 hibbitt // May 17, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Rotonda heights

    thats fine mate………. but i am sure millions of families with kids are happy the prices and quality at SD

  • 86 Ron Knee // May 17, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    What does ‘cavail’ mean, jeff?

  • 87 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Rotonda why do you think Shelvey has been disappointing?
    I thought that on the whole he is doing the job that is asked of him.

  • 88 Toon-Barmy // May 17, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Interesting article listing Rafa Benitez signings as Liverpool manager. Hit and miss to say the least.

  • 89 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM


    prices are great, but the quality…cheap knock offs made with child labour in far flung sweat shops.

  • 90 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM


    Keys carried out a one man vendetta against Benitez at Liverpool which contributed a lot of fan unrest.
    He is a disgraced presenter who has left sports journalism altogether to join Al Jazeera.

  • 91 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Firebug I don’t care if he manages only for his mum as long as we get a trophy under him.

    What’s keys problem? He used to love us.

  • 92 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM

    Anyway, let’s all be happy that Rafa is seriously willing to turn this club around, regardless of who’s doing what. With Rafa’s demands, they won’t have much say in much anyway. He’ll run it his way and ultimately, he’ll either live or die by his own judgement. I can’t think of anybody else i’d be happy to have full control of my club right now. He’s a football man from his head to his toes and if anybody can – Rafa can. I was already looking forward to next season, but with this news, i simply can’t wait. With this news i can envisage ST sales increasing on this past seasons sales. What a strange situation that would be. 😉

  • 93 firebug666 // May 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM


    Aye I know it’s personal with Keys, I was just offering his latest rant.

    Benitez is who we want, he just doesn’t wan’t him at Everton…. Good neither do we, so sorted then!

  • 94 Hail Wor Ashley // May 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Think the likes of Perez and Townsend will stay if Rafa does.


    Krul – £5m

    Colo – release
    Saylor – release
    Janmaat – £7m

    Saivet – £3m
    Sissoko – £12-15m
    Gini – £12-15m
    Gouffran – £1m
    Cabella – £6m
    Thauvin – £7m

    Cisse – £3m
    Riviere – £1m

    £60m raised.



    Subs: Elliot, Mbabu, Colback, Aarons, Ameobi, Armstrong

    Add 1 CB and 2 LBs, allowing Dummet to move to CB.

    Add 1 CM so we have 4 senior for the two positions.

    Add 1 RW

    Add 1 proven Champiosnhip ST

    Tiote still might leave also.

    Mitro I’m really undecided on now the dust has settled. Very fine line with him. Needs that edge to play to his potential, but then there’s always the danger he loses it.

    Rough and tumble of the Championship might suit him better, if he can work on keeping his composure. A year banging the goals in could be the making of him, but will he do that? His finishing leaves a lot to be desired.

  • 95 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    apart from his amazing opening cameo v whu shelvey has bitterly disappointed and rafa wasn’t slow to drop him and I think rafa knew what he was doing and possibly Guidolin too in selling him for 12M.

    if you look at norwich’s 3rd goal against us look at Shelvey’s non – movement to drop in and cover or even make a token attempt. Made me mad at the time.

  • 96 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    I’ve been a lone voice on here for a very long time saying exactly that. It amazes me too that some would rather see the club worse off if it means SD pay full whack for the advertising. Obviously, if Mike wants to put more of his own money in, that’s fine by me. But I know I wouldn’t appreciate other people telling me how to spend my own money and slagging me off when I don’t. And why would I want to put more money in when it could be confiscated under FFP rules? Perhaps the link between between the free advertising and the interest free loan is how the club complies with FFP rules? Does Ed (or anyone else who slags Ashley off) know different?

  • 97 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    BandB, didn’t he get the sack for making dickhead comments when he thought the mike was off? Or was that the other prat? Possibly both. After sky, al jazzeira was the best he could hope for! Bitter twisted man who’s thoughts nobody would waste a penny on. 😉

  • 98 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    Toon Barmy you should see Wengers it’s just the same.

    We need to get out of the mindset that everyone we should sign is a first team player. The likes of Benitez and Wenger often buy players (sometimes at decent money), whop they see having a possibility of getting into their first team in 2 to 3 years.

    That is why he wants to restructure the U21’s etc. It’s not just a case of buying kids but having somewhere where they can learn to play the Benitez or Wenger way so that they can slot into the first team with no fuss.

    It’s a lot better than our current way which is, if he’s not in the first team he’s a failure or just throw him into the first team and hope for the best.

  • 99 Ron Knee // May 17, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    Congratulations to Chris Hughton. You deserved a lot better from the Parasite.

  • 100 robertsleftfoot // May 17, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    In all honesty I am shocked that someone hasnt pointed out to Lee Charnley or Mike Ashley of the amount of money giving to Mondial since Carrs appoitment.

    Even more so that the FA havent looked into it.

    Ben Arfa

    All part of this sports group and we have spent somewhere in the region of £70 million with them ad probably I can only rate Cabaye a success.

    Just doesnt add up that his targets are all from this company. Also note that Clement Grenier and Samuel Umiti are part of this group and we have constantly been linked with those two also.

    There are probably others but thats just the ones I can think of. He has pulled the P*ss out of us with this dross for years now so he should be sacked

  • 101 firebug666 // May 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM


    If SD paid for their free advertising that would be classed as income, and therefore could be spent without breaching FFP rules.

    The rules state that a club must be managed within it’s financial limits. This was to stop the billionaires from piling their own money in to their clubs.

    The debt the club owes is to Mash Holdings I think, and therefore should have nothing to do with SD.

    Ashley has and always will have his dodgy deals, the fact that this has been debated on here for years shows that we have not and probably will never know the true extent to these so called deals.

  • 102 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:36 AM


    I am sure that, like me, you don’t give a flying what the c*** thinks.

  • 103 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    79BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    The club always explained that the free advertising was quid pro quo for the interest free loan.
    Personally, I’d like to see him reduce the loan.
    It’s hardened debt at a historical high level for this club.
    If we are making money, we should be paying it off.
    If we are making money, we can pay down the debt. But so long as the debt is interest free, it is invisible in that it costs the club nothing. So why pay it down? If we are making money, I would rather see it invested in players. How else are we to pay for their transfer fees and wages if not from the money we make?

  • 104 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:37 AM

    Firebug, or more likely he’d love to have Rafa at Everton but knows it will never happen. Why would you leave NUFC to go to Everton anyway? Their ground is a disgrace for one and they live on past glory as much as their neighbours do. Rafa had it sussed when he called them a small club. 😉 Keyes must be devastated he’s choosing us over them and is lashing out like a spoilt brat. I’ll take the bet that whoever they get won’t be as good as Rafa right now. When Rafa arouses the snoozing giant that is Newcastle, Everton and many other like clubs know they can’t compete and it’s clearly upsetting the man. Unlucky eh? 😉

  • 105 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 11:40 AM

    BandB, apart from comedy value, you ain’t wrong. What a tosser. 🙂

  • 106 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    I’m not really interested Blackley, thank you.
    I hope hope it is not even a debate for another day.
    I’m surprised to see you getting so agitated about it, as you had virtually nothing to say about the relegation struggle.

  • 107 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Blackley as far as I am concerned Ashley has only ever wanted two things and that is to become self sufficient so that we can engineer our own success.

    IMO he has given us free money, i.e. money we wouldn’t have under someone else and has done everything in his power to make it work for us.

    His appointments are what has let him down. The triangle of power thing for signings was a concept dreamt up under Charnley.

    Ashley has had bad advice time after time. With Benitez it will be different because he knows what he is doing.

    I can foresee a day (within the next 5 years) where we are not only winning things but have top quality players from the academy upwards all playing the Benitez way.

    We will have money in the bank and players coming through from our U21’s etc meaning that we only need to buy 1 or 2 players a season to refresh our team.

    That will be serious purchase power and because we are self sufficient very few will be able to compete with us in the transfer market.

  • 108 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:44 AM

    And nor did funlovingexpress.

  • 109 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    Clearly, the financial picture would be better if we hadn’t just been relegated.

  • 110 Rotonda heights // May 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    i don’t get the sexist, neanderthal, hairy palmed monkey boy’s problem with Rafa. He’s actually won a fair bit since liverpool and keys suggests Moyes and Hughes, what have they ever won and moyes was such a success at manu and sociedad.

  • 111 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    BandB on here you are right. I lost my log in details ages ago and just found them.

    You will find though that I have had a whole lot to say on the relegation struggle on other sites.

  • 112 magscar // May 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    On the Charnley/Carr axis whilst both can be adjudged to have failed it may not be realistic to ditch both at same time given the potential massive changes we are facing.

    Carr is nearing retirement ( passed it some would say) and can be and will have to be replaced with Rafa’s choice for the appointment to work. Ashley will see Carr is alright and he probably realises the shift in power means it is a good time to go.

    On Charnley I do have some some sympathy with Expat’s views but being more practical his role isn’t as easily replaced nor should it be by a Rafa suggested appointment – can be too much power with one man.

    He gets another chance because Rafa publicly says he can work with him ( presumably sees him as malleable) Ashley wants a middle man in there – so all good at least for another season but is on borrowed time.

    Also several posters over the years have said that they would take relegation if it meant that Ashley sold up ( as if such a bargain could be struck at the legendary crossroads!) what do posters think of this seeming deal as an alternative?

    All the years of missed opportunities and pain another relegation but potentially our best manager ever?

    I believe we stand on the threshold of another revival similar to under John Hall and KK but possibly with a better outcome if the PL monies do allow other clubs to compete with the so called big boys with all the money. A reason why Hall decided to call it a day when he realised likes of Abromvitch was altering the landscape at the wrong time.

  • 113 lochinvar // May 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    Richard Keys – surely yesterdays man. He is of course entitled to an opinion.
    You would think with the amount of press and journal interest and commentary on Rafa and NUFC that we were flavour of the month and had relegated Leicester off the front page. Well nearly – thats for the season after next !

  • 114 dok - the horrid colonial // May 17, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    gmorning from the dark side of the pond…

    if rafa stays, ill have to deal with no matches for a season, but the end result could be well worth it…

    if if rafa stays, perhaps ed wont kill the blog…

  • 115 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 12:00 PM


    I could see Ashley shifting in someone with a stronger personality than Charnley in time to keep an eye on things.
    And I’m even prepared to hazard a guess at his identity.

  • 116 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM

    B&B, i agree now is not the time to be repaying Ashley, not with the FFP being so restrictive in the Championship. Every penny should go towards rebuilding the club.

  • 117 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM


    Once again, it’s a “he was walking in, I was walking out” scenario for you and I.
    There could be a song in that….but I don’t l know what to call it 🙂

  • 118 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 12:09 PM

    If you were interested in the matter of paying down the debt, you wouldn’t have dedicated a post to it. I’ve made a petfectly reasonable response that paying fown the debt would not be financially astute for the resson I have stated. You may disagree with that and if so, I gor one would like to hear your reasons. Instead you say, “I’m not really interested Blackley, thank you.” You go on to switch tack to say I am agitated and had virtually nothing to say about the relegation struggle.” What pearls of wisdom of yours did I miss?

  • 119 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Dok, sky does a lot of Championship games, and we were their favourite last time around. I can see they will have lots of our games on next season so you should have no problem getting a lot of games on stream. Enough to survive until Rafa has us bouncing back. 😉

  • 120 giimps // May 17, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    If the club are in debt do they still have to pay tax on income as it means the club aren’t “in profit” ?
    That may be another reason why he keeps the debt in place, other than to get free advertising for his baby…….
    At the end of the day, whatever this reasons, if he gets Rafa to make the club competitive again and give us fans a club to be proud of…….he can do what he likes……I just wish he would drop wronga as the sponsor as I could do with a new toon top but refuse to wear anything with that on anywhere…….bad enough having a bank on never mind a loan shark

  • 121 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    Giimps, wonga, short term sharks. Banks, long term sharks. Booze and gambling, supporting adictions. Let’s be honest, none are much better than the other! 😉

  • 122 dok - the horrid colonial // May 17, 2016 at 12:16 PM


    maybe were getting back to our glory days haha

  • 123 dok - the horrid colonial // May 17, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    bobby, greatly appreciate that info… defo look into that, even if I have to pay more for it over here… thank you

  • 124 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    Im not sure if you’re missing my point. You say,

    “The rules state that a club must be managed within it’s financial limits. This was to stop the billionaires from piling their own money in to their clubs.

    My point is that giving an interest free loan is putting money into the club. It may be caught by the rules unless the club gives some form of consideration in return? The club may say it gives consideration in the form of free advertising to one of the owner’s companies? Does anyone know the facts? I don’t how the rules but I would expect to see that a straight interest free loan would be picked up by the rules and treated as an investment by the owner unless he can be seen to be getting something in return. I think people need to address this point and the point made by Funlovingecpress before slagging Ashley off for everything.

  • 125 funlovingexpress // May 17, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    Rotonda with respect to Shelvey, Benitez hasn’t dropped him.

    He uses him at just the right time for his tactics.

    A few years back i wanted Tuchel as manager. What I liked about him was that he always left his 3 best players on the bench and brought them on at different stages of the game so that the opposition couldn’t cope.

    Benitez doesn’t quite do it in that way but he always has players on the bench that can completely change the tactics being currently used.

  • 126 Bobbybee // May 17, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Dok, every time there’s a match on btsport, sky shows a Championship game – which is a regular ocurrance. They even show Championship games when they show PL games sometimes, so there will be many games to keep you going. You might have to watch online, not knowing how sky works over there, but that’s a small price to pay, i’m sure you’ll agree. Last time we got relagated we seemed to be on every week! 😉

  • 127 BandB // May 17, 2016 at 12:31 PM


    The free loan was quid pro quo for the free advertising. The club stated that. It isn’t a theory.
    Now SD is to pay for the advertising, I do wonder if there will be a new quid pro quo for the loan, and is so what it will be. It seems a reasonable question.
    I would like to see the loan reduced and eliminated. Would you not?
    And I didn’t say now.
    I did say the financial situation is clearly worsened by relegation. Relegation and the attendant loss of revenue and exposure, is probably not a strong indicator of excellent financial management, on balance.
    It looks like penny-wise, pound foolish.
    I just don’t believe any of this matters much to the ordinary fan as long as the club is going to strive for success on the pitch… now that “prudent” survival in the Money Club is no longer an option.

  • 128 giimps // May 17, 2016 at 12:34 PM

    I read nbc cover championship matches as well as Bein sports.
    I definitely preferred greenhalls and brown ale on my shirts than banks and loan sharks…..
    Never mind though, onward and upward…….il just have to keep recycling my old shirts till a decent on e comes around…..anyone know if we’re getting a new away strip this season as the one this season is atrocious…….I wouldn’t have bought it even if it was sponsored by Rolex or something

  • 129 Blackley and Brownlie // May 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    A business can have substantial debt but be highly profitable. Generally speaking, a business only pays tax if it makes a profit in a particular year.

  • 130 giimps // May 17, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    So does that mean he can offset the debt against any profit generated to stop him paying tax on said profit, or does he still have to pay tax on any profit generated?

  • 131 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    OK here is the moment you’ve all been waiting for – the pre-season predictions:-

    Poster Posit Points LC FAC In Out Top GS Goals

    martoon 10 48 3 6 5 5 Mitrovic 14
    Take a Chancel on me 9 52 5 7 6 4 Mitrovic 17
    jayphoto 8 51 4 6 6 4 To Sign 14
    Jack 15 39 6 5 4 2 Wijnaldum 8
    PapissGottaBrandNewBag 11 49 5 5 4 5 Mitrovic
    Corkypants 8 58 5 6 5 3 Mitrovic 10
    Yorkshire Magpie 12 45 5 4 5 3 Mitrovic 15
    dok – the horrid coloni 10 52 5 6 5 4 Mitrovic 13
    Noel Worst 9 51 6 5 4 3 Mitrovic 15
    Our Toon 10 51 5 5 4 4 Mitrovic 13
    clinath@ed 9 55 6 6 6 6 Mitrovic 20
    Menelauos 10 53 6 4 4 3 Mitrovic 15
    english yeoman 7 60 6 6 5 4 Mitrovic 21
    check the toastie 6 62 7 3 7 7 Mitrovic 13
    Belfast 12 46 4 4 4 4 Mitrovic 11
    Offkey 12 45 4 5 5 4 Mitrovic 12
    LewSpi v2.0 9 51 6 4 5 4 Mitrovic 13
    Average_Contents 13 45 4 4 4 2 Cisse 10
    Tsunki 5 69 7 7 7 6 Mitrovic 17
    Bearsize 8 56 3 3 6 3 Mitrovic 21
    Sazzer 11 48 2 3 6 9 Mitrovic 14
    Setchell 7 61 6 4 5 2 Mitrovic 16
    geordie157 9 53 5 5 8 5 Mitrovic 15
    Harley 7 60 7 5 5 5 Mitrovic 16
    royal-county-geordie 6 63 5 8 5 3 Mitrovic 20
    overtheline 9 52 6 5 5 3 Mitrovic 17
    Pardews Priceless Bulls 7 60 5 4 5 4 Mitrovic 17
    Tinman 8 60 6 5 6 1 Mitrovic 16
    jane 14 42 4 4 6 3 Austin 10
    lochinvar 7 70 5 8 6 1 Mitrovic 17
    mickalfas 12 46 5 4 4 3 Mitrovic 14
    jesperfuglsang 10 49 5 4 4 3 Cisse 12
    Jail for Ashley 9 54 4 5 4 2 Mitrovic 13
    tequilamag 8 58 7 3 6 0 Mitrovic 14
    israeli_fan 7 61 7 4 6 3 Mitrovic 17
    ShirebrookToon 6 62 5 8 5 4 itrovic 9
    ronaldo aarons 10 57 5 4 4 4 Cisse 14
    deeps 8 56 5 5 4 1 Cisse 15
    Small World 10 56 5 6 4 4 Mitrovic 15
    toon kk 14 44 4 4 4 4 Cisse 15
    sparky55 8 59 3 5 5 4 Mitrovic 15
    welshgeordie9 8 59 4 6 6 1 Mitrovic 15
    GeordieoftheSouth 12 49 5 7 4 2 Mitrovic 18
    nut meg 9 53 5 5 5 3 Mitrovic 13
    Charlie in the Gallow 13 47 5 4 4 2 Cisse 12
    Ron Knee 14 44 3 4 4 4 Mitrovic 11
    firebug666 15 42 4 4 3 4 Mitrovic 12
    hibbit 14 43 4 4 4 4 Mitrovic 12
    jasper 8 58 7 6 5 1 Mitrovic 19
    coatesy17 8 54 6 6 4 2 Mitrovic 14
    Mag52 15 41 5 6 4 2 Mitrovic 12
    Bambams 11 50 6 7 4 3 Mitrovic 15
    Alec 11 54 5 6 5 2 Mitrovic 18
    estechco 10 50 5 5 4 1 Mitrovic 14
    northernracoon 9 53 5 6 4 1 Mitrovic 16
    sweendog 7 54 7 6 4 1 Mitrovic 18
    John Tudor 16 44 4 3 5 4 Perez 12
    Ian Toon 9 56 6 5 5 2 Mitrovic 15
    the broons 10 52 5 4 4 2 Mitrovic 12
    JamesToon 10 55 6 5 5 3 Mitrovic 14
    Lilongwe Geordie 9 52 5 6 5 4 Mitrovic 14
    Reyantoon 6 60 7 6 5 5 Mitrovic 16
    Jib 5 62 6 8 7 3 Mitrovic 19
    JP…from The Rock 11 53 5 6 5 4 Mitrovic 15
    Madmaglass 9 56 6 7 6 6 Mitrovic 15
    Graeme 11 49 4 5 4 2 Mitrovic 15
    YouCouldn’tMakeItUp 13 47 5 4 3 3 Mitrovic 15
    WWSBRD 13 45 2 3 5 6 Riviere 30
    B1GSTEVE 7 63 5 8 4 6 Mitrovic 19
    scottoon 9 53 5 4 4 2 Mitrovic 14
    thevirus 9 53 5 7 5 4 Mitrovic 17
    Thump 13 47 5 4 4 3 Mitrovic 14
    SUTTY1978 12 44 5 3 5 2 Riviere 21
    Sliema 12 49 4 6 4 3 Mitrovic 12
    matt11_25 6 63 5 4 6 3 Wijnaldum 13
    NezzaNUFC 14 44 5 4 3 2 Perez 9
    Shot Bru 16 39 3 3 5 3 Mitrovic 11
    philippealbert 10 49 5 4 4 0 Mitrovic 11
    shearer4pm 9 52 6 6 5 3 Mitrovic 13
    Unplugged toon 10 47 6 4 Mitrovic 15
    Magpie Myles 8 48 5 6 5 4 Mitrovic 18
    King Colback 7 65 6 8 5 1 Mitrovic 19
    archaeomag 7 55 5 3 6 4 Cisse 18
    IITianToon 8 56 5 6 4 3 Mitrovic 17
    Oldgit1 13 46 4 7 4 6 Cisse 13
    catchy in norway 6 60 6 7 5 3 Mitrovic 17
    JackButler 10 49 5 6 5 2 Cisse 19
    toonking 10 50 5 5 4 2 Mitrovic 12
    Munster Mag 9 52 5 5 5 2 Mitrovic 14
    mindshaft 11 53 6 5 3 2 Cisse 15
    the white tino 10 53 5 5 5 2 Mitrovic 17
    Bobbybee 7 58 5 8 6 2 Mitrovic 19
    Essex Geordie Bill 8 60 7 4 4 3 Cisse 15
    Spellcheck 9 50 5 4 5 4 Mitrovic 18
    OneAlanShearer 4 60 6 8 6 6 Mitrovic 24
    Clarke_M 7 58 6 5 6 5 Mitrovic 28
    Fatman_joe 10 40 7 5 6 6 Perez 12
    bosamuelson 7 61 7 4 7 4 Mitrovic 16

    I reckon Jack was nearest with a prediction of 15th place, 39 points and leading goal scorer Wynaldum with 8 goals – he was a bit out with cup predictions. If you disagree let me know.

  • 132 martoon // May 17, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Well I spent ages formatting that only for the blog to take out leading spaces 🙁

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