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Lee Charnley Debriefs Mike Ashley On Nightmare Season

11:56 pm, Tuesday, May 17th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 44 Comments

It looks like yesterday was when Lee Charnley went to meet with Mike Ashley to report on  just how Newcastle United – after spending a massive £82M in the transfer market on new players last season – managed to get relegated and tragically miss out on the £150M we could have received from the new TV rights deal from the Premier League next May.

Instead, we will now get £2.5M from the Championship, but Newcastle will also get a parachute payment of around £40M from the PL next May – it will be 55% of whatever we get from the Premier League this month.

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Lee Charnley with Mike Ashley

That means at least financially we will be in much better shape than when we first relegated from the Premier League seven years ago.

George Caulkin of The Times is reporting:

So we wonder what will happen with the top executive at Newcastle, who has cost his company about a cool £100M in the next financial year?

Well, surprisingly it looks like he could stay in place, although Chief Scout Graham Carr, his partner in crime, is said to be leaving the club this summer.

One reason Lee may keep his position is that he seems to get on very well with Rafa Benitez.

Rafa says he gets on well with Lee – maybe that’s only because Lee does exactly what Rafa tells him to do?


But if Lee stays on he will have  no real power (thank goodness) with Rafa basically running the cub – which is the only reason the Spaniard will  stay on at the club he calls massive and a sleeping giant.

Well that and the fact that the Geordie fans just simply love the man.

I can tell you from real experience in the world of business that an executive as incompetent as Lee Charnley would not have lasted this long given the gross incompetence and arrogance he has shown over two years as the top executive at Newcastle United.

If he stays, it also shows that those who are killing the club under Mike Ashley, are not being held accountable and remember his incompetence has also cost the jobs of a number of the non-playing staff at the club.

That’s simply tragic.

A well-run business always hold those running the organization accountable for their decisions.

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44 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 12:06 AM

    “I think I’ve wee-ed myself, boss.’
    “Okay, have a biscuit and pour the tea.”
    Crunch, slurp, nibble. “Thanks boss.”

  • 2 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 18, 2016 at 12:09 AM


    So he is both incompetent AND incontinent? 😀

  • 3 beermonkey // May 18, 2016 at 12:10 AM


    they seem to comunicate well together,
    mbemba started well and tailed off alot of our new buys do that
    the makings are there for a decent pairing top 6 not sure but blended with agger who knows rafa will help them, also the rest of the team working as a unit has helped, they will defo get us out the championship

  • 4 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 12:11 AM

    But paid beyond his wildest dreams….”what’s it to be then Lee? …eighty, ninety, a pound?”
    He’ll live, bless him.

  • 5 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    Sorry Mark…that was for you.

  • 6 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 18, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    He’ll have enough to buy his sweeties, thats for sure.

    Anyway, its later than i thought. I must be off to my pit. Goodnight all.

  • 7 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 18, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    Yeah i guessed 🙂

  • 8 jimmysmith // May 18, 2016 at 12:20 AM

    I agree, they are good enough to get us out of the Championship. Agger would be a great addition in that endeavour also. More than a little odd he was allowed to leave Liverpool in his prime. He seemed very good there. Good on the ball, solid enough defensively.

  • 9 Munster Mag // May 18, 2016 at 12:36 AM

    If charnley really only has to buy players as directed, i dont mind if he stays. He had no hassles sorting out deals for difficult guys like mitro and costly guys like wiji. The whole key is how much we have to spend and who decides on players. The rest will follow

  • 10 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 12:40 AM

    Mr Tubbs……………………………………………………………..OOT
    Champagne Socialists………………………………………..OOT
    Bolinger Bolsheviks…………………………………………..OOT

  • 11 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 12:42 AM

    I hope Ian Toon doesn’t come on trying to coin a new phrase – Wafas Bwave New World.

  • 12 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 12:53 AM

    Yeah Tuff

    History has been shaped by wine-swigging, tax collector collaborating class traitors.

  • 13 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 12:57 AM

    The proliteriat have been abandoned by those seeking to feather their owns nests.

  • 14 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 1:24 AM

    Are you proleatarian Tuff?
    I thought you were a copper.
    I am a non-conformist these days, and not on a legendary pension as a result.
    No-one tells me what to think.
    I never felt the need to join a very large gang, or wear a uniform to give me a sense of identity.

  • 15 BandB // May 18, 2016 at 1:40 AM

    I may be a Bee, Tuff.
    But I’d rather choke than be a bizzy.

  • 16 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 1:49 AM


  • 17 expatmag // May 18, 2016 at 1:57 AM


    Tuff is the biggest red of all……red and white that is

  • 18 Back Door Man // May 18, 2016 at 2:37 AM

    What sort of mischief-making is that BandB … to suggest that the fragrant and wise Mr Tuff is a Peeler is beyond inappropriate.  Present your case, provide the evidence but let’s not drag Tuff off in some ramshackle tumbril whist the great unwashed here howl out through broken teeth, “off with his head”.

    Yep, he’s occasionally straightened out a few on here regarding points of law and ‘clipped’ the odd lughole but that don’t make him Knacker of the Yard.

    Expatmag – ex-Leases End boys should ALWAYS stick together … I know that scum reference was meant as a joke but some of the dicks on here might take it a gospel.

  • 19 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 4:13 AM

    If Rafa manages to replace Graham Carr with Francis Cagigao and Paco Herrera you can understand why Ashley looks to have released the purse strings.

    FG is the guy who took Cesc Fabregas to Arsenal , Benitez last summer snaffled him from Arsenal for Real Madrid and now looks set to bring him into the NUFC network.

    PH was one of Rafa’s assistants at Liverpool which he left 10 years ago to manage various clubs in Spain.He left Las Palmas last Autumn and has been scouting for Rafa since then.

  • 20 The next Mike Williamson // May 18, 2016 at 4:31 AM

    quite a few of Carrs flops started to look good under benitez like lascelles darlow mitrovic. Other supposed flops look good once they left like gosling and Ben arfa. so now it’s looking like he didn’t do too bad. maybe thauvin would even be good under benitez.

    could it just be we have had 3 cack managers in a row.

  • 21 Santon03 // May 18, 2016 at 4:45 AM

    basically Rafa is acting as M&D of NUFC and LC will be acting as errand boy, I got no problem with that. The only thing that don’t change is the name in organization structure or business card.
    From all his weakness, LC seems to be very good negotiator, it’s his strength which is good. He is able to get good players fast and he managed to get Rafa in. His fatal weakness probably decision making but now Rafa will make the decision.
    I think this relegation is a blessing in disguise, we can get rid of those players, well they will try to leave even if we don’t get rid of them.
    I can’t wait to see Arma in black and white again, he will be partnering Mitro, that will be awesome.
    Perez and Townsend as wingers, Anita, Colback, Shelvey as mid. We will have good 3 GK available again.
    This season has been bad luck imo plus the incompetence of SM, all together it is a horror show. Why bad luck? how the F that we lose 2 GK at the same season with exactly the same case?
    Tbh I want Sissoko to stay, he has been amazing since Rafa joined us. Last game he worked so hard, I never seen him got exhausted with his hands on his knees like that before.
    With more senior experience players coming in, I think a lot of our youngsters will have important roles to play next season such as Sterry, Heardman, Mbabu, Aarons, Arma, etc. Especially Heardman or other young strikers with Mitro will more likely to get suspended in championship.
    The weird thing is I’m more upbeat after relegation, I usually don’t like people saying we need to get relegated, but they are right. Who knows we might win a cup or get to cup final and go to europe when we get promoted. I’m more optimistic that we will win something next season.

  • 22 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 5:05 AM

    Ashley makes no secret of his admiration of the way Abramovich runs Chelsea.
    They have a huge roster of players out on loan and their critics accuse them of bending the FFP guidlines . In fact what Chelsea and ManCity are doing is exactly what the FFP rules were designed for i.e. assist and further the development of young players in the game while at the same time helping clubs with less financial clout.
    Look how many young players are on Chelseas books
    I think this is what NUFC and RB are thrashing out at the moment not just a straight forward coaching role but cranking the club up to another level in every facet of a modern club’s operations.

  • 23 The overrated Frenchman // May 18, 2016 at 6:09 AM

    Whatever the new configuration of management is going to be, it can only be an improvement. The way the “board” have seemingly turned a blind eye to the money that has been going down the drain on wages for players who are nothing but passengers is scandalous. By my reckoning, including Marveaux and Obertan, there are at least 15 players who should be off our books completely because they have nothing to contribute.

  • 24 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 6:15 AM

    There is an article today in AS one of Spains main sports newspapers that says , while acknowledging that a section of the Real Madrid fans could never forgive Rafa for winning La Liga with Valencia , probably the main reason for his leaving the Bernabeu was the antipathy between him and the president Florentino Perez
    Benitez said he would turn up every day to chat to the players and offer “helpful” suggestions and it really got on his tits , and Rafa being Rafa let it be known how he felt.

    No chance of that with Ashley methinks

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // May 18, 2016 at 7:03 AM

    Just read through last nights posts and to answer JimmySmith’s question on did Ashley always want a successful club but needed the right advice. I’m not sure what his original intentions were, it is pure speculation as to whether je bought us as a plaything or whether he had a long term plan to treat us the way he has for the last eight years. My answer is that since the start of that first full season with KK is that he had no intention of success unless it was by default ie that fifth place finish and even after that it was calculated that success wasn’t worth it as it entered you into the EL hence the deliberate and criminal early cup exits. Rafa was a desperate last gap gamble to try and save losing 100M, 4M up front to save a fortune, not bad odds. I think he has no choice now but to bring him on board because even the people who tell him only what he wants to hear will be saying it will be catastrophic if he leaves, Season tickets are down as it is and god only knows how long we could spend in the Championship without Rafa, his money and advertising are at stake. He doesn’t know how lucky he is that we have found a manager who has fallen in love with the life blood of the club. Something he could have had himself a long time ago.

  • 26 hibbitt // May 18, 2016 at 7:41 AM

    the life blood of this great club THE FANS and THE CITY who have open there harts to Rafa

  • 27 Lindisfarne // May 18, 2016 at 7:43 AM

    Picture Caption –

    He had hold of me like this, see
    and he pulled my arm right round my back
    and said “You will buy Florian Thauvin and pay £10.5M”.
    He has a firm grip for a 70 year old.

  • 28 Average_Contents // May 18, 2016 at 7:52 AM

    That’s the thing though jfa, he didn’t see us as the lifeblood or even a necessity just pesky fans who happened to support the company he owned. Sky were.

    He may now because that’s dried up and because rafa has said as such in his many interviews.

    Here’s hoping.

  • 29 Lindisfarne // May 18, 2016 at 7:55 AM

    Europa League Final tonight!

    Why on a Wednesday?

  • 30 giimps // May 18, 2016 at 8:02 AM

    We were just customers to him, same as in his shops, give them what I think they want cheaply and he gets all that advertising and it worked ,50,000 every week and more who couldn’t get tickets…’s taken him 9 year to realise it’s not like a normal business and there are consequences for failure so it needs specialist management to ensure redemption……..I have no doubt though that if Rafas people hadn’t contacted him…we would be going into the championship with Cathro at the helm…….Thank you Rafa for having the sight ……

  • 31 JackButler // May 18, 2016 at 8:04 AM

    Charnley is not a chairman, never has been and never will be so the loss of all that money is down to Ashley and no one else as he is the idiot that entrusted the running of the club to a promoted secretary. It seems the only person to fail to see this obvious failing was our owner who had been given enough warnings but chose to ignore them

  • 32 The overrated Frenchman // May 18, 2016 at 8:10 AM

    Jail, I think in a way you have hit the nail on the head. Ashley’s affection for the club has always been conditional, never absolute. He’s never been able to take his eye off the bottom line, never been committed heart and soul. That, in my view, has been at the core of his failure. Owning a football club will make you shed tears of blood if you have your heart in it. We’ve never seen anything more than crocodile tears from Ashley, and even then concocted by his spin doctors.

  • 33 Ron Knee // May 18, 2016 at 8:20 AM

    NUFC is little more than a marketing tool for Ashley. It’s no surprise that he turned to Keith Bishop when things were not going according to plan.

  • 34 Veltmann // May 18, 2016 at 8:21 AM

    To be fair to Carr,he did a good job in his early 3 or 4 yrs.Brought some great players.Until lately,
    he become agey probably and lost his eye track.
    And may be it’s best time to retire.

    Charnley is a good players deal negotiator but looks poor administrator.If he manages to convince a mgr of Rafa’s caliber, I don’t mind whether he stays and do things that needs to be done behind the scene.

  • 35 Average_Contents // May 18, 2016 at 8:24 AM

    Gimps, jackbutler and the overrated

    Agree with all of those.


    We’ll soon see if he’s finally realised anything.

    I’m not holding my breath for this Damascus moment.

  • 36 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 18, 2016 at 8:27 AM

    Been holding my breath for Jabbas damascus moment for so long, that my body has learned to survive without oxygen

  • 37 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 8:43 AM

    Average Contents
    Someone else who cannot stop his daughter supporting the Reds^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

  • 38 Average_Contents // May 18, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    I thought trees need oxygen.

    There’s a few oxygen thieves on here and the trees want it back.

    How’s things markass

  • 39 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 9:01 AM

    Young trees absorb CO2 at a rate of 13 pounds per tree each year

  • 40 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    According to the Arbor Day Foundation, “a mature leafy tree produces as much oxygen in a season as 10 people inhale in a year.”

  • 41 Ian Toon // May 18, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    Overrated- Your labelling of Ashley as ” conditional and never absolute ” is quite frankly bunkum. Your blue print would imply a Freddy Shepherd as being ideal type for our football club.

    Ashley is not a Daniel Levy type businessman being Chairman of his boyhood club. Reading back over quite a few days I see Ruddy has made yet a further attempt to win hearts and minds in his own inimitable way. Surprisingly( you might think) I see certain similarities between him and Ashley. Both lack emotional intelligence and have never been able to bridge the gulf between intent and impact.
    Maybe Ashley recognised the need which is why Bishop is on board.

    From recent actions Ashley gives the impression that he finally appreciates the need to respond to situations rather than give a knee jerk reaction. Maybe, it’s been a long time coming but unlike the ” will of the wisp” he recognises the need to win over hearts and minds to influence events. The cynical may see it as the need to sell ST ‘s in difficult times. For me should Benitez ” not come to pass” ( boom)- then it fulfills BandB’s hope criteria.

    Mr Tuff- relax this is just me passing through.
    Incidentally you need to sort out your principal/ principles – I’ll send you my dog- eared copy of Gwynne.

  • 42 Jib // May 18, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    But unlike the chest beating buffoon Mr Tuff I won’t go on and on about your mistake.

  • 43 one fine day // May 18, 2016 at 9:13 AM

    Few points maybe not on topic
    Now Rafa has committed for 3 years ( get in:) ) will..
    1 .Shearer finally stfu and get behind this and stop being such a miserable tw@t on all things Rafa .Great player ,hero but has being getting right on my t@ts of late .Seems to not be able to shake the chip on his shoulder as to why he wasn’t treated the same way as Rafa when he took us down ( all be in a very similar situation where he could only do so much ) three words Alan .proven track record .
    Maybe there is also a ill bit of jealousy at the adulation Rafa is getting ( just wait until he even wins us something )
    2. Will those daft mackums ,now there little red plane is back in the shed until they can use it to celebrate another glorious season,let the dust clear and ask themselves this ?
    Would you rather be hanging on in the prem again for another year of ordinary football and the occasional big humping under the hippo with little chance of anything really changing other than a guaranteed six points lost now we are no longer there to provide.Or.. Looking forward to what could be the best era since Keegan first walked in to management ,knowing that your whole club , operation ,academy , medical scouting network is going to be given an almighty kick up the arse and the championship will be used to completely rebuild the club and then become a serious powerhouse in the top 6 minimum ?
    Think I know which I feel better to be amongst

  • 44 Rotonda heights // May 18, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Lee Charnley Debriefs Mike Ashley On Nightmare Season

    ”Well basically Mike I kept pursuing a sacked championship manager not once but twice and just for laughs I gave him 82M to blow. ”

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