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Newcastle And Benitez Continue To Edge Slowly Towards A Deal

10:09 pm, Wednesday, May 18th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 38 Comments

The Mail is reporting tonight that Rafa Benitez has continued to work on potential transfer targets today at his home on the Wirral.

The fine details of the agreement between Rafa and Newcastle are still being worked on – and Rafa wants everything written down when a final agreement is reached.

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Rafa Benitez – working on transfer targets

Here’s what the Mail’s Craig Hope has tweeted tonight on the current situation.

So there doesn’t seem to be too much new to report after another 24 hours in this saga.

We would assume Rafa is also working to get his scouting network set up, with news being leaked continually that Chief Scout Graham Carr will leave the club shortly and most likely retire.

Whether Rafa stays or not,  there is a ton of work to be done to get ready for the Championship season, which starts on August 7th.

A pre-season schedule of games needs to be worked out – and Rafa also wants upgrades made to the Benton Training grounds, which are insufficient for what he wants to do with the first team squad.

One of the important areas Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley are working on is the budget for next season and how much in transfer funds will be made available to Rafa this summer.

The budget will also force an answer to the question of how many  layoffs will be made to the non-playing staff to cut operating costs.

The two men are also presumably discussing just how Newcastle managed to get themselves relegated last season.

While a real business would hold people accountable for the debacle, there is a report in the Telegraph today that Mike Ashley is considering appointing an executive who will work with and presumably help Lee Charnley with the executive duties of the club.

Lee has shown quite conclusively over the last two years that he has neither the skill, experience, background or education to hold the position he currently has at the club – but it looks like he will essentially retain that position at the club.

That could only happen at Newcastle, just like the diabolical relegation this season could only happen at Newcastle.

Any PL club would have fired Steve McClaren before the end of last year – so hopeless was his record – but there again no other PL clubs would have appointed Steve in the first place, after he was sacked by Derby County.

And the National press continues to doubt that Rafa will take the Newcastle manager job in the English second division, after he started last season as the manager of 10 times European Champions Real Madrid – the most famous football club in the world.

We shall see.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Business · Coaching · Financial Fair Play · Financials · Management · Newcastle News

38 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // May 18, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    See thats Villa got a Chinese owner now?

    We really need Benitez to confirm and get the funds out so we can start getting ready to take the title from them!!

  • 2 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    jimmy seriously the only time we have seen sisko play to his best or wat we know he can do is his debut and against spurs on sunday i cant think of any other games where he has played anywhere near that level
    look at wini under rafa, no better at all even dropped
    even tho we had a rigid defensive formation for him to do his thing of course we have been difunctional because of our better players as they havent performed at all consistantly

    players like willo and dummett always got abuse on here for actually doing there jobs where as the so called stars got bugger all for not even putting 100% in let alone anything else

    sisko, wini, mitro and janmaat havent done enough this season simple as that especially compared with wat they could do

  • 3 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    60 mill i think i heard lee and ashley wants prob 5 times that!
    no wonder there isn’t any takers
    lerner must’ve taken a hell of a loss like

  • 4 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // May 18, 2016 at 10:25 PM

    In terms of squad quality we have already had a few players leave so if we could replace them with a little experience and quality from the championship while keeping the players Benitez wants to keep :

    Doumbia replaced with Mccormack from Fulham goal machine in the Championship has pace and work rate

    Williamson finally replaced with Agger on a free proper upgrade!!

    Taylor replaced with Dunk a player who has it all and can also play more than 10 games a season!!

    Marveux to be replaced with Lee Tomlin a player with experience in the championship and is very creative

    Obertan to be replaced with Redmond him and Townsend on either wing would be amazing

    Cabella to be replaced with Robertson we need a quality left back

    So even just those changes would make such a difference to the squad and thats without replacing players who have done nothing recently such as :

    De Jong . Cisse , Colo , Thauvin and Saviet

  • 5 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    wats the difference between getting payed for the season just gone and a parachute payment?
    surely we still get wat we are owed for this season so where does the parachute payment come from?

    never understood that it can’t be an extra payment can it?

  • 6 jimmysmith // May 18, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    Manx, Willo, the Taylor’s, Gouffran, Rivierre, Dummett, Obertan, and on it goes,. A long long list of very ordinary players, often played out of position due to a lack of depth. Other’s who were worse and came and went.

    You build a competitive team, under capable management and give your better players the opportunity to make the difference.. Look at Leicester, and Mahrez, Kante, and Vardy.

    Sissoko has played very well these last half dozen games, and with other purple patches here and there before. It is more than two games.

  • 7 WLtoon // May 18, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Although im praying Rafa stays, something does,nt seem right. I think if he has,nt confirmed that he is staying by friday ,then i think he,s had second thoughts, or Ashley has,nt gave him the assurances he wants. i hope im wrong, but things have gone quiet.

  • 8 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    I reckon there must be about £50 million in the kitty – certainly some of the money they were going to spend on Berahinho. So there must be a bit of money.
    Point that interests me is do you build a team designed to win the Championship – solely – and then strengthen again if we return.
    OR – do you build a team suitable to perform in the PL – and assume they should walk the Championship,

  • 9 WWSBRD // May 18, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    Biggest problem Sissoko faced was he signed for us too late, had the team that finished 5th still been around he would be a gem in a crown now

    If only he had signed instead of Anita

  • 10 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    We get our money for this season. First parachute installment is paid at the end of your first Championship year, just over half – between 50&60% of you last Premier payment. Following year is around 40% and then 30% if memory serves correct.

    I agree we haven’t seen enough from certain players, but I think there are differing reasons for each. Personally I think Mitro had a good season. 9 Prem goals from starting less than a third of the matches in your debut season isn’t bad. That he was left as our only real option was the issue. Perez was a hero last year for less goals and less assists.

    Gini struggled, but was still our top scorer, so what does that say about others? Sissoko turns up when the shop window is there, even then, he isn’t always good enough. Before his 4 assists at Norwich people always pointed to his game against Chelsea (debut or second game?) Now they have a third.

    Janmaat is poor defensively. Not a flat back four full back. He is good when the game is played to suit him, but that is not when defensive duties are priority.

    I’d keep Mitro, if Gini was willing to stay and tough it out, I’d be happy with that. The other 2 can head off for me. Take the cash and replace them.

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 10:52 PM

    McCormack would probably be a decent signing at this level, but can’t see us spending the rumoured £12million Fulham want, and I’m not sure Benitez would want him. Having said that, I could see Benitez using him in a similar role to Kuyt at Liverpool.

    He doesn’t cut it at the next level, and I think that would be the drawback.

  • 12 Belfast // May 18, 2016 at 10:53 PM

    Howay less Anitaphobia please. He played quite well the last few weeks 🙂

    The fact that Rafa continued to start the awful Cisse suggests Rafa doesn’t rate or trust Mitrovic.

  • 13 Belfast // May 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    He was shaking everybodies hand on Sunday and it looked like he completely blanked Mitrovic.

    Or maybe he’d already shaken his hand? 😉

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    Interesting. A fine balance I think. We need proven experience to bolster the squad, but a little bit of potential is needed to help maintain growth if we go up.

    I went for Trippier, Robertson and Redmond with 3 experienced players down the spine. Centre half, centre mid, centre forward. The first three are capable of growing and performing in the Prem as they have shown, the other three give you the attitude and know how required.

  • 15 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 10:58 PM

    mahrez kante and vardy = consistancy
    sisko wini janmaat = massive under achievement
    i’m not saying they are all to blame but come on only showing up for some games means there is something wrong with them
    name another game where sisko has been better than his debut and against spurs?
    dummet has come in under rafa and the defense has instantly been better that isn’t a coincidense its because he does his primary job
    yeah he isnt great going forward but thats why we have attacking players who havent done there job
    wini scored prob 90% of his goals playing on the left until he threw a bit of a huff and has been shite since
    i agree we havent had the right balance in the squad completley but to say some players aren’t to blame because of that is shocking especially sisko who must be our most used player since he’s been here

  • 16 WWSBRD // May 18, 2016 at 10:59 PM

    Nar mate I don’t think Gini struggled he just didn’t turn up, he is what everyone calls Sissoko. I’d rather have the huffy French lad than the none existent Dutch one personally

    I’d also keep Janmatt if he could be convinced and Mitro as back up/off the bench player but I won’t shed a tear if they all leave

  • 17 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 10:59 PM

    A battle hardened Championship veteran would still prove a more valuable squad player in the Prem than a fancy footed once in a blue moon like Marveaux.

  • 18 WWSBRD // May 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM

    Anita is still garbage mate haha

  • 19 jimmysmith // May 18, 2016 at 11:01 PM

    Wijnaldum I think you can criticise more easily than Sissoko, considering the succession of no shows away from home, but still there are mitigating factors there. Benitez appears to disagree, he made Sissoko captain, while on the other hand marginalising others. I doubt you’d want to move on your obviously better players, just when you have the manager and structure in place to bring out the best in them.

  • 20 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 11:01 PM

    lilo cheers but still confused lol so that means there is actually an extra payment at least?

  • 21 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 11:04 PM

    i seen that belfast but i think mitro was on something he was hugging the ref next!

  • 22 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    I’d be disappointed to see Mitro leave, the others not so much. Gini has been incredibly hit or miss, can’t argue Sith him being dropped by Rafa, but it was his first year in the Prem, played the majority of his games on the left wing – a position he has never regularly played – and got 11 goals. He has maybe needed to adjust, or maybe just can’t deal with the different style, but if he stayed, I’d be willing to give him a chance to prove himself.

    Summer was injured for McClarens last few games. Still, I don’t think it was his return which made us tighter at the back. More better organisation, probably drilled on the training field which is something Raga is well known for.

  • 23 jimmysmith // May 18, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    Manx, I’m arguing consistency isn’t something a player drags out of himself. It requires great help from what surrounds him.

  • 24 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 11:06 PM

    *Summer should read Dummet….

  • 25 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    plus on wini not giving townsend the pen tells me alot ya could see him begging for it and hardly anyone celebrated it with him
    he might not be fitting in i feel

  • 26 Munster Mag // May 18, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    Scousers were awful. Spanish honeys beat their scouse equivalents in the looks dept too 😀

  • 27 gaz 44 // May 18, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    Bunga did I really just read lee Tomlin, not a fan of McCormack either other than he’s short stint at Leeds what’s he done, but Tomlin WOW

  • 28 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 11:10 PM

    Jib Jibberish – I thought I should continue in my current helpful vein and to save you some Google searches indeed as a friendly gesture to a fellow blogger.
    I was checking out NewsNow for any Toon news – and happened to see in the margin a story about the zika virus – that it may reach Europe. The headline was :-
    “The WHO has warned that the Zika virus is set to reach Europe”

    Please note the “WHO” is not the pop group but the World Health Organisation.

    No need to send your thanks.

  • 29 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 11:11 PM

    Parachute is paid at the end of the first 3 Championship seasons. At the same time Prem money would come in of we were in the Prem. It isn’t an extra payment, it tops up the little money, likely less than double figures, we will get for playing in the Championship.

    Still, dependant on our pay out this season, I’d guess between £65 and £75 million we will probably get between £35 and £45 million next year to assist with lost earnings and continuing expenses. Plus the Championship payment.

    We are actually quite lucky because our Prem money will be higher than quite a few teams that stayed up, and way inn excess of Norwich and probably Villa due to our tv coverage globally.

  • 30 WWSBRD // May 18, 2016 at 11:13 PM

    Hand on heart I will be annoyed if Gini stays, he doesn’t deserve to imo he just didn’t try for so long

    Mitro showed more and I’d be more willing to give him another chance but he has to improve his temperament quickly

  • 31 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 11:15 PM

    lilo yeah i know he was injured infact most of the season really but the rigid formation rafa put in suits defenders
    ya could see it in the games we only ever attacked when players were back in there positions
    my point is dummet gets dogs abuse for actually doing his job
    where as janmaat gets away with unbelievable amounts of bad defending because he gets up the pitch
    same with simpson when he was here or willo
    look at huth at leicester does his job and thats it not running up the pitch or raking out passes here and there
    thats my point to jimmy that players who really deserve praise but get abuse because they aren’t doing extras

    where as the players who really aren’t doing there job get none

  • 32 Mister Tuff // May 18, 2016 at 11:17 PM

    Lilo -interesting concept though what type/standard of player they go for – bearing in mind 1 year of Rafas reign will be “wasted” in the Championship – leaving him 2 years to build a decent PL side.

  • 33 manxpie // May 18, 2016 at 11:23 PM

    wow still confusing lilo lol
    i’ll just forget i asked 🙂
    still we get our mony back near enough on transfers this season and probably at least 10% on wat we have spent over the last 3-4 seasons so should have a load left!

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 11:24 PM

    Mitro is a young kid who was given full reaponsiblity for goals in a team that was short on creativity. He is hot headed, and certainly needs to learn to control that better. That is something that could come with age or not.

    Because we paid what we did for him, he doesn’t seem to get any slack for his age. Fair enough, the price tag comes with a burden. He missed some good chances, but has a pretty good goals to minutes and shots for the season.

    I’m honestly can’t really put my finger on what it is about him, but when I watched him for Anderlecht after winning player of the tournament when Serbia won a youth international tournament, there is just something there. The UEFA technical panel that tournament described him as a “natural finisher” who can cause problems for opposition and his team through “raw passion and emotion”.

    Would hate to see him leave, as I agree with him, he could become a club icon, if he stayed. The fact he supported us growing up just adds an extra bond.

  • 35 jimmysmith // May 18, 2016 at 11:32 PM

    Being relegated, obviously no one is above criticism, and certainly not the underperforming players. However, the question of what degree to apportion responsibility is worth discussion. I think the way the squad was brought together, and managed, was our greatest downfall.

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // May 18, 2016 at 11:33 PM

    I’m a defender, and primarily work on the defensive aspect of any players I coach or work with(probably explains my dislike of flair players who do tricks just for the sake of it). I liked Simpson. If we wanted to kick on, he probably needed competition ahead of him at NUFC, but I never understood why he was let go/allowed to leave.

    Dummet has improved as he has gained experience I think, as most do, but I also think he improved with most injuries because the squad was woefully in equipped. He is a solid Championship player, and a decent Premier league player. I would have preferred, and said it numerous times last summer, Robertson to come in who is better defensively and offensively.

    Johnny Howson, Snodgrass. Fillers in the Orem, but seasoned performers at this level.

  • 37 emphraser // May 19, 2016 at 12:52 AM

    Might be less about Charnley’s ability to lead than Ashley’s ability to mentor. He clearly doesn’t view him as a proper executive, so maybe he’s just trying to mold him into one. Grooming him to remain by his side, the unreasonable patience directly tied to the obvious perks – the way one’s metabolism changes at 40, 10, maybe even 5, years on I reckon there’s no way anyone refers to Ashley as Fatman so long as Charnley’s in the picture.

  • 38 microbar // May 19, 2016 at 1:14 AM

    Rafa has no intention of staying on under the present regime.
    Just waiting for one of the big clubs coming in for him
    He is probably pissing himself laughing at charnleys negotiating skills

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