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Growing Concerns From Fans About Benitez Negotiations

10:11 am, Thursday, May 19th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 34 Comments

We are being told that everything is going just fine with the negotiations proceeding with Rafa Benitez to manage Newcastle next season – and that Rafa is back at his home outside Liverpool working on transfers and other stuff associated with Newcastle for next season.

The news a couple of days ago was that Rafa and Newcastle have a verbal agreement that Rafa will become the manager for the next three years – and that both parties are now working on stuff for the coming season.

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Lee Charnley – the football brains currently at Newcastle

At the same time before Rafa will commit, we understand that Newcastle have to get some things to the former Liverpool manager – like how much will be made available to him in the summer for new players and what will be done about improving the Benton training facilities in the immediate future.

Newcastle are also leaking information almost daily on the progress being made and this will probably be coming from Lee Charnley.

Our concern is that could be why it looks so rosy and great – and we remember the way Lee reacted on February 22nd at the Fans Forum meeting about relegation:

Question – “Does the club have any plans in the event of relegation as far as season tickets are concerned? In the event of relegation, does the club intend to reimburse any fans on the direct debit scheme if they decide to cancel their season ticket?”

Answer – “The club is confident of remaining in the Premier League and, as a result, has not discussed plans in such detail across the business at this stage.”

Lee was wrong on that and he’s been wrong on a number of things – including the capabilities of a certain Steve McClaren.

In fact he hasn’t been right ion too many things at all over the last two years.

So it’s not surprising the Newcastle fans are becoming a little bit jittery at the moment.

The bottom line is we have confidence at all in those running the club, after the insidious incompetence shown,  that has seen Newcastle United relegated this season and lose out on at least £100M next season.

If any club can screw up these negotiations with Rafa Benitez – it’s Newcastle.

That’s the big problem at Newcastle right now – we have now real executive leadership at the club.

And while that may be a negative way of looking at things – it’s also realistic, based on past experience.

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34 responses so far ↓

  • 1 cyprus // May 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    If you compare us with most other Ch. sides, we are much better off. Of course this could change if we stay down there a few years.

    http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/national/146216-championship-club-club

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM

    I’ll spare the repost.

  • 3 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 19, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/star-could-move-to-west-ham-this-summer-no-intention-of-newcastle

    Random sissoko rumor

  • 4 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 19, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    Ed

    I think you mean “Growing Concerns from Ed Harrison”. I for one am not worried at all yet. The situation is moving at a sensible pace (still less than a week) and there are no other connections as yet.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    YC,
    It would be very typical of him if that’s what he’s actually said.

  • 6 cyprus // May 19, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    What exactly does Rafa need, in order to sign? It can’t really be the training facilities (one of 4 factors mentioned here), thought they were top.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/07/exciting-25m-mike-ashley-investment-allows-newcastle-to-compete-with-best-in-europe/

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    Some good posts on previous thread

  • 8 one fine day // May 19, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Charnley looks like he has done curry hell at the rupali

  • 9 WWSBRD // May 19, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    cyprus
    That training upgrade never happened

  • 10 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 19, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    OFD and Jail

    The bloke just cant seem to keep his gob shut, so i would not be surprised if he has said he has no intention of staying. Craic like “Arsenal is the club of my heart” continually streaming from his mouth in his ‘Grass is greener over there’ attitude. Would be funny if he ended up at one of the ‘lesser’ London teams.

  • 11 hibbitt // May 19, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    late reply

    no jail not once

  • 12 one fine day // May 19, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    From previous
    20one fine day // May 19, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    YCMIUP
    Thought arsenal would be in for him seen as the only teams he seems to lift against are spurs and chelsea play him for 4 games a year and there’s 12 points on the board …oh but hang on that’s cos he wants move to champions league team .. and well arsenal are already?…I’ll get me coat

  • 13 Bambams // May 19, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Rafa will want to know how much he has to spend. It will take a few days for them to get that figure.

    He will want to bring in his own medical staff, they will need contracts signing before Rafa signs his.
    If by this time next week we still do not have him signed. …then panic !

  • 14 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 19, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    OFD

    It’s ok i saw it 😀

  • 15 one fine day // May 19, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    Wonder if he will borrow tiote’ sold arsenal shirt for instagram selfie ?

  • 16 hibbitt // May 19, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    cyprus

    the upgrades never happened
    they cut the hedge and mowed the lawn a lick of paint here and there but very little else

  • 17 one fine day // May 19, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    YCMIUP
    SOS mate trying to keep on ed stream and page refresh nightmare on this phone 🙂

  • 18 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Charlie, hibbitt and magscar.
    Thank you lads.

  • 19 cyprus // May 19, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Now is the time to take stock. Why does this club keep failing? What is needed to get some kind of consistency and stability? We’ve tried the 8 year contracts, tried the quick fire approach.

    What do I think?

    We need a spine of very good players, who’ll be committed through and through to the club. I’m not talking Taylor, more Elliott. Good enough to grace the shirt and put in top performances. I even include Colback there, Sissoko, Andros.

    We must be willing to sell or release failed transfers, even at big loss. People like Shelvey come to mind.

    HW on transfers must be vastly improved. You can’t guarantee a player’s success, but from a certain level upwards, you know they’ll make it. Was Defoe available for us too? He single-handedly relegated us and congrats to him.

  • 20 cyprus // May 19, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Wasn’t aware of that…

  • 21 WWSBRD // May 19, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Sissoko was sold a stage to get into the CL not to be stuck at a club in the championship, of course he doesn’t want to stay none of our good players want to stay

  • 22 Jib // May 19, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    YCMIU
    Consider this article as a scaremongering slap on the wrist from ED – Cos we took the piss out of his accountancy skills .
    😀

  • 23 Rotonda heights // May 19, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Only a NUFC run by ashley could cock this up.

    Rafa is offering ash a lifeline to root and branch the whole sorry and pathetic set-up and yet the man conducting negotiations is the one who so desperately pursued SM and sanctioned 82M with no CB, LB or proven goal scorer in sight.

    Asking Charnley to negotiate buying a newspaper is a stretch, so not at all surprised things are taking time. Ash will have to realise pdq that rafa aint bluffing. it’s on his terms out he’s out of here and we can look forward to the joy of z listers and 3rd raters again.

  • 24 cyprus // May 19, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    Rafa must be ‘allowed’ to approach many of these players and tell them, sorry mate, you ain’t in my plans (no need to tell them you aren’t good enough, like AP stupidly publicly did), look for a club.

    We need a new look overhauled team, while building that spine I mentioned. We still need a real goalscorer though that Armstrong may be good enough at this level.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    Defoe single handedly relegated us and congratulations to him. What an odd thing to say.

  • 26 davis_toons // May 19, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    I hope we can manage to get rid of our STAR Signing Jonjo Shelvey.

    Bring in another two Young Cheick Tiote or the likes.

    Just proper DM. Someone that can cover defence and work hard, close down players, fight for balls and doesn’t do things like finger pointing.

    Kante can be another good example. Short but useful.

  • 27 Rotonda heights // May 19, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    cyprus

    john terry getting sent off v sunderland and mitro not being able to hit a barn door also contributed.
    SAFC also bought very well in January, so no not defoe alone.

    Rafa almost pulled it off and so frustrating as you could only imagine what heights we could have reached and may yet do

  • 28 expatmag // May 19, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Re: Benitez

    He is waiting on Everton and Southampton situations before comitting himself to us. That should be sorted by next week.

    I gave been told even though Rogers is negotiating with Celtic, he has one eye on the Newcastle job and Charnley is in contact.

  • 29 hibbitt // May 19, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    if we dont get Rafa you have to wounded who this lot would go for ?
    first game of new season warnock at home to Rotherham a reel spellbinder of a game a top of the table clash
    gate 10/12 thousand what a day was had by all

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // May 19, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    Rotonda
    I’m cutting them slack with this one as I think that it’s Rafa’s side of things that are holding things up while he makes sure everything is right.

  • 31 Mister Tuff // May 19, 2016 at 10:53 AM

    One thing the club has been good at is keeping what they are doing well under wraps – I would suggest the Rafa negotiations fall into this category.
    So anyone saying the talks are going this way or that way are guessing/making it up.
    I speculate that Rafa is taking his time weighing up THEIR offer as opposed to the other way round – plus he may get a better offer elsewhere.
    He is in the driving seat at the moment and there is no benefit to him jumping into anything too quick.
    So currently no anxiety by me.

  • 32 Moonraker15 // May 19, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    I don’t think for one minute that Rafa is waiting to see what offers he might get. He’s aware of how previous managers have been lied to and just wants in writing whatever has been agreed verbally. My only concern is how much money he wants for transfers and how much he’ll be offered. Also does Ashley want to sell loads?

  • 33 Moonraker15 // May 19, 2016 at 3:39 PM

    Just thinking. First game next season home to Burton Albion with 95% of our pl team playing, Rafa in charge and 45 to 50 thousand in SJP! Burton will sh1t themselves!!

  • 34 Sav // May 19, 2016 at 11:30 PM

    The longer this drags on without Rafa actually signing for anywhere else, the more proof he is going to stick to his guns and get exactly what he wants (and is needed) for success. So calm down, Ed. We’ve had enough of managers who take Penfold’s hand off to get the job and can’t wait to shut the door on the Manager’s office so they can have a sly spin around in the leather chair and finger the desk. Rafa is the real deal. He’ll sign when he is satisfied and not before and no ‘verbal agreements’ will be acceptable. Ashley will capitulate. He is paying the price for cutting corners in the past.




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