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Will Rafa Let These Two Star Players Leave This Summer?

5:08 pm, Saturday, May 28th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 155 Comments

The two Newcastle players most likely to want to leave Newcastle this summer, now that we are in the Championship, are Gini Wijnaldum and Moussa Sissoko – the player who thinks he should be playing for a Champions League side but has contented himself with being at Newcastle for just over three years.

Moussa will be playing for France in Euro 2016 – and if he plays well Newcastle may even be able to get the £20M they want for the player and quite honestly if a club bids that much we should sell him.

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Gini Wijnaldum scores penalty against Spurs

And in L’Equipe on May 19th they stated that Moussa had no intention of playing in the Championship next season and West Ham are one of the Premier League clubs said to be interested in the player.

Both players didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory in our away games last season and there’s a question mark if we do keep them whether they will bother turning up at places like Burton Albion and other clubs with small  grounds in January. when it’s really cold and pouring down with rain.

Probably not.

Gini’s agent Humphrey Nijman wasted no time in saying his client has to think about his future, once Roma had said they were interested.

This is what Nijman told RomaNews:

“Wijnaldum’s situation right now is very simple,”   “Newcastle have been relegated to the second division, so now the player has to think about his future.”

“At the moment I can’t say any more, and I can’t talk about negotiations. Roma are a great club, one of the best in Europe.”

“How much would he cost? I can’t answer that, it’s the club that decides a player’s price.” “I only take care of Wijnaldum’s contract.”

That sounds like Gini’s agent trying to push the move.

Agents generally are keen on moves for their players, not because it may be good for their client, but it’s definitely good for the agent, since they get paid when they negotiate a new deal.

That’s only one reason agents are becoming a big problem in the game of football.

Pochettino was at the Ireland – Holland game last night in Dublin to see the 1-1 draw.

Wijnaldum started the game and was withdrawn after 82 minutes for striker Luuk de Jong.

Luuk scored Holland’s equalizer three minutes later and Wijnaldum had one of those games when he was hardly seen – much like he played for Newcastle in away games last season.

We’re not sure if Pochettino was taking a look at Gini since he sat alongside Shane Long’s agent – and Shane scored Ireland’s goal after 30 minutes and looked good.

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Rafa Benitez and Moussa Sissoko

We wouldn’t be too upset if both Wijnaldum and Sissoko left Newcastle this summer, but it’s completely  up to Rafa Benitez and of the two we think Rafa would want to keep Moussa rather than Gini.

Rafa made Moussa his captain and was impressed with his 100% work ethic in training, but he dropped Gini after that Southampton debacle when the Dutchman was nowhere to be seen.

They are both good players for sure, but they certainly didn’t pull their weight last season – and if they stayed then maybe the same thing would happen in the upcoming season.

That would be a concern.

It will also depend on how much they want to leave and if they are adamant that they want to leave Newcastle  they should go.

If Rafa does sell them he can use the money to bring in some new players to replace them.

We like that alternative.

What do you think?



Tags: Championship · Georginio Wijnaldum · Moussa Sissoko · Newcastle News · Premier League




155 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    A_C,
    Jack Root has the same hotlink as Sack Llambias. Ian is up to his old tricks again for some reason.

  • 2 bettyswallocks // May 28, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    I don’t think Jib knows as much as he tries to pretend. He’s been winging it.

  • 3 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Jack Rootvegatable – what you’re witnessing is a primeval struggle of a strangely unique intensity between a group of old blokes screaming and shouting at each other through toothless gobs.  This handbags war of attrition, exemified by numerous self-defeating rows, is obviously choreographed to the point of anaemia by some effete marshal.  There’s something mildly nostalgic about this herd of old bullocks slugging it out in the face of growing audience indifference and of course there’s a slight campness to the enmity.

    But, but, but … BDM is providing an irreverence desperately needed here and if some view this with distaste, tough tatty (see what I did there? … but with apologies to Arthur Ransome, no Jib he didn’t play for Arsenal in the 1950s).

  • 4 goosegog // May 28, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    need to get rid of janmatt,sissoko,gini,tiotte,cisse and tayler sharpish,sissokos price will drop after the euros as he maybe the worst footballer ive ever seen in a black n white top

  • 5 Average_Contents // May 28, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Jfa

    Exactly my thoughts.

    Oops. We seem to be the borg.

    How dare we think similar.

    Fcukoff jack/Ian/Carl.

  • 6 lesh // May 28, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    Bettys

    You’re crowing cos Jib’s been found out!

  • 7 Munster Mag // May 28, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Hope hull win as bruce is always good in this league. I dont see a whole lot to worry about here though except more muscle and running power than we have.

  • 8 Ron Knee // May 28, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Sheffield W finished 15 points behind Brighton and yet they could get promoted!

  • 9 NoahJ // May 28, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    we don’t have room for passengers next season, and wijnaldum and sissoko are both passengers.

    If we got £30m for the pair I’d be happy and that money could be used to invest in a squad capable of turning up and handling the championship. sissoko can go and probably end up on stoke city’s bench, and wijnaldum can disappear, as he tends to be so good at doing that

  • 10 hibbitt // May 28, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    if we get 30m for that pair I’ll be amazed

  • 11 bettyswallocks // May 28, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    Lesh…. I feel a bit sorry for him as he’s had a fair bit of stick today. He dishes out plenty though so it’ll do him no harm.

    He’s got one of those diseases from kissing birds, “Chirpes” It’s a form of canarial disease and its untweetable.

  • 12 Munster Mag // May 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM

    30 mill for those too. Are u mad??

  • 13 Munster Mag // May 28, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    1 nil hull

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 6:39 PM

    What’s with the Jib bird jokes, what’s the bird brained rugger know nowt doylum said today?

  • 15 Ron Knee // May 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Enter Pardew’s pal.

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    And who the fcuk is this BDM and what’s it all about.

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Just seen a post from James Keith saying Collocini should be given a testimonial, firstly I’d have to ask, considering he hasn’t been here ten years what on earth has he done to deserve one and secondly, would more than 5K turn up. That would be pretty god damn embarrassing and O think one of the reasons Shola never got one.

  • 18 Oldgit1 // May 28, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    I reckon we would end up with 40 mil for both these players, in any case it’s for Rafa to decide but fairly sure if the price is right for him, then they will go but only on his terms. That is what I like about the man. For those that disagree, remember they are both seasoned prem players and the clubs that buy them will have money to burn.

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    Old Blackas is in the Algarve. Second day in the hotel gym and the cord snaps on the lateral pull down. The weights crash and old Blackas heaves the bar down onto his heed. Not much damage done but Old Blackas is not best placed to comment, other than to moan about a sore heed.

    Anyhow, old Blackas, against his better judgment has taken to the drink and has been posing poolsude all afternoon. The hotel manager is a Real Madrid supporter. Old Blackas tries to strike up a rapport, and mentions Rafa. Just now, old Blackas, who rarely drinks, comes back to the apartment to find a bottle of champagne, a plate of fruit and a letter, which reads:

    “I hope that today has been a better day. We are delighted to have you and we will help you have a better stay.”

    “PD. I don’t like Rafa Benitez because he doesn’t understand what Real Madrid means, hehe. But I think he is a good coach.”

  • 20 Mister Tuff // May 28, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Jack Root = Ian Toon.

    I’ve read that many of his drivel posts he has the same enemies, the same message, the same phraseology – absolutely no doubt about it.
    He up to his old multiple tricks again despite folk asking him to desist.

  • 21 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Oldgit,
    No offence pal but you are way off the mark if you think either of them will fetch 10M each. They’ve done nothing to make thelselves really in demand and clubs will know that they’re the type of shite houses that will spit the dummy and try and force a move. Unless there is a hist of clubs wanting their inconsistent and surly performances then expect a long drawn out affair with 10M tops being paid.

  • 22 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Some don’t half talk shite on here, speaking of which, back door man previous post, what the frig are you banging on about.

  • 23 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 7:11 PM

    Been in the bar. A group of about 12 Spanish locals grab a guitar and start singing local songs. Just a random group of punters. They sing like birds. Every one of them. All different yet harmonious. All sorts of local folk songs for about two hours. Spain 10 v 0 England. Absolutely brilliant. But I’m not happy. Puts us Geordies to shame.

  • 24 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    Nice to see Steve Bruce back in the premier league, well done Steve.

  • 25 Mister Tuff // May 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    The Chronicle has done some research in respect of NUFC TV appearances for next season and what we may expect.
    Full article reproduced for those fans overseas :-
    Newcastle United on TV in the Championship: How to watch them – and when games will be.
    The Championship may not be broadcast as frequently as the Premier League, but Newcastle United will still be on TV next season.

    Newcastle United are no longer a Premier League side but at least some of the Magpies’ matches will be broadcast live on television and radio in 2016-17.

    True the Championship, and the Football League in general, is not broadcast anywhere near as extensively as the Premier League, but there will still be 148 games shown across the English second, third and fourth tiers next season.

    Rafa Benitez’s Magpies will certainly be one of the prime attractions as well given that the Spaniard is a world-renowned manager who was standing in the dugout at the Bernabeu as recently as January.

    But who will show the games? Which radio station will you be able to listen to? When are the live-broadcast timeslots? And will you be able to watch Newcastle live if you don’t live in the UK?

    Here’s the extensive guide to all those live broadcasting questions and much more:
    Can I watch Newcastle live on TV in the Championship next season?

    The Magpies may have be missing out on the exorbitant Premier League TV revenue deal, but they will still be on the box next season.

    Sky Sports owns all the right to Football League matches for the 2016-17 campaign – and 92 Championship matches will be screened in all, including the play-offs.

    What’s more, second-tier sides are guaranteed a minimum of two home matches to be broadcast live – so at the very least Newcastle will be on live on Sky Sports twice next season, though they will likely be shown far more frequently.
    When are the main slots for Championship football shown?

    There are three ‘main’ Sky Sports time slots for Championship football during which games are shown most which, and there are also two ‘secondary’ slots which are added in every now and again.

    The main slots are:

    – Friday, 7.45pm

    – Saturday, 5.30pm

    – Sunday, 12.00pm

    The secondary slots are:

    – Thursday, 7.45pm

    – Monday, 7.45pm

    What’s more, during the festive period, on bank-holiday weekends and when there are midweek fixtures, games can be shown on different days and in alternative timeslots.

    When are time changes announced for matches?

    The original fixture list for the Championship campaign will be released on June 22, but then it will change over the course of the season due to games being selected for live broadcast.

    Initial TV selections for August and September will occur late-June/early-July.

    Then, throughout the course of the campaign, games are usually selected to be shown live around six weeks in advance.

    However, sometimes matches are changed at short notice – with Leeds United only informed a few days before their games for a couple of time alterations throughout the course of this season.
    What about a highlights show? Is there a Football League version of MOTD?

    There is – and you can catch it either on terrestrial or paid-for TV.

    Sky Sports shows highlights of the Football League on a Saturday evening, as well as on a Sunday morning and at regular slots during the week.

    Also, Channel 5 air all the goals from 9pm on a Saturday night (or during the week if there are mid-week fixtures) on ‘Football League Tonight’.
    The FA Cup and Capital One Cup are on TV too, aren’t they?

    They are indeed.

    BT Sport (25 matches) and the BBC (16 games) split the FA Cup coverage, so you can even watch that competition on terrestrial TV if the Magpies turn their woeful recent record around under Benitez.

    There’s also a highlights programme on the BBC after every round.

    In terms of the Capital One Cup, Sky Sports show 15 matches a season live.

    Both Sky Sports and Channel 5 also provide highlights of each round.
    How many times were Newcastle on TV last season in the Premier League?

    The Magpies were on TV on 16 occasions in the Premier League throughout 2015-16.

    In fact, only seven sides were televised more frequently than Newcastle.
    What about individual Championship sides? How many times were they on live?

    Leeds United and Derby County were shown live on TV 15 times each, and the top Championship sides tends to be screened on 10 occasions or more.

    Newcastle with Benitez at the helm will likely reach those sorts of figures for games broadcast live.
    What about if I want to listen to Newcastle on the radio?

    BBC 5Live and BBC 5Live Sports Extra are the only national broadcasters of live Championship matches, and they will commentate on an unspecified number of matches.

    However, BBC Newcastle are expected to continue to cover every United match live.
    I don’t live in Britain – is there any way I can watch Championship football?

    Don’t worry – Football League matches are shown just about all across the world on a variety of channels.

    Whether you live in the Balkans or Botswana, you should be able to watch at least some Newcastle games live in the Championship.

    The Football League are currently in the process of updating the specific details for which broadcasters provide coverage in which country or continent.

  • 26 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Who wants to do a bet with me this evening, i bet anyone £50 that Madrid will win, anyone up for it.

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    Blackas,
    Were they plumbers, bricklayers and accountants or had they all just left a Spain’s got talent show. ?

  • 28 Mister Tuff // May 28, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    Hope Athletico win – long shot I know – especially after Ronaldo slagging off the Toon and Benitez

  • 29 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    Hope there’s goals, can’t be doing watching a boring 0-0.

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Did he though, are you just going from what Jibberish said?

  • 31 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    Oh no, Jail sneering at the impertinence of BDM’s questions and comments.  I’ve always thought you were one of the ‘good guys’.

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    welsh,
    I’ll give you fifty quid if you promise to sling your hook and post on the Swansea blog where you belong!

  • 33 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    Got back from a couple of days away and spent a little time sorting through the flotsam washed up on the blog’s rocks whilst I was away, and what do I find but a pile of untreated sewage; so a flashback to last week.

    Those posts drip fed by Tsunki and bettybollocks and directed against the angelic BDM last week were vitriolic, nasty and beyond inappropriate.   I’d rather have my doctor’s vinyl covered middle finger rummaging for my sphincter followed by his camera up my jacksy than read and respond to their drivel but hey, here goes … duty calls.

    The sooner this gruesome-twosome double act, a low rent version of Cannon and Ball, realise blogging ain’t real journalism, that it’s only fifth-rate data management fed to us by nincompoops for nincompoops – that it’s just reporting for lazy, morbidly obese folks who live in their pyjamas or pink polyester shell-suits then the sooner they’ll stop being snots to the gorgeous BDM.

    They both appear to have been fastened permanently to this place by some hairy-arsed Govan riveter or a bit like limpets on a sewer outfall pipe suckin’ the goodness from the passing brew, when they should be out earning a crust.  I’ve mentioned before that I have other stuff  to do so only ‘pop in’ occasionally to review … unlike them I don’t usually lurk here all day and all night, so there can’t be immediate replies from me to their challenges.

    Tsunki’s unpleasant one spark imagination campaign against the sensational BDM is back-firing so badly … a bit like my clapped-out Qualcast huffin’ and splutterin’ over my dog piss scorched lawn.  Fortunately for the intellectually cretinous inhabitants of the blog, among whom Tsunki is an exceptionally proud goose stepping member, all they have to amuse themselves with is a meaningful daily relationship with Five Fingered Mary.  Oh, and the real highlight of their week is polishing the brass buttons on their ill-fitting jim jams or pickin’ their noses whilst trawling the throbnet to plagiarise phrases to hoy back at me.  Obviously, I’m also so pleased that bettybollocks has found her true vocation … cleaning-up after Tsunki the pantomime zebra (see what I did there?).

    So my plea, like a globule of hockle from my toothless gob, is please, please, please Matron, hang DNR notices above their beds.

    And finally, none of this stuff is alpha-jostling or real but a self-deprecating and linguistically playful kitsch strumalong on my banjo directed at probably decent, sometimes funny(I liked T’s pop at Bruce posted a few days ago), usually interesting fellow bloggers.  For those in the remedial stream that means it’s all meant in fun.

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    BDM,
    Think what you may, I don’t like your style!

  • 35 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    Jail

    Kiss my arse, i will do what i like.

  • 36 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    Sorry jail i shouldn’t have said that.

  • 37 Hail Wor Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Sissoko and Gini will easily fetch £12-15 mil each, particularly given that we don’t need to sell.

  • 38 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    What i should have said is kiss welshies arse.

    Ha ha ha

  • 39 NoahJ // May 28, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    cant see ashley selling wiji for less than the £15m+ he signed him for. sissoko, however poor we all know him to be, is still a france international held in high esteem by the media, and with 3 years left on his contract; if we couldn’t get anyone better than him for the same amount, then what’s the point of selling him if we’re not compelled?

    so, yes, £30m is not ridiculous

  • 40 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    And another thing … I’m suprised that Martoon had to Google the word “gulag” after Jail had used it the other day.  I had presumed that most folks here had read a couple of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s books, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and The Gulag Archipelago after I had recommended the author in that essential reading list I posted a couple of months ago. 

    You’ll all recall the aim of the list was to encourage folks here to broaden their cultural hinterland to help raise the standard of what appears on these august pages, so we don’t have to witness the predictable pearl-clutching and head scratching which preludes the disgorging of the same exhausted tropes.

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    HwA,
    Would you like to wager £10 that neither will sell for more than 10M. Payable to the SBR foundation?

  • 42 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 7:59 PM

    Hail Wor Ashley

    Have you been drinking there’s no way you will get that kind of money for those two players.

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 8:00 PM

    Noah,
    Did Sissoko sign a six year deal?

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    BDM mentions Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Jack Root talks about Stakhanovite. The fcukin gall of this weirdo!

  • 45 Hail Wor Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 8:09 PM

    We’ll see.

    Somehow I think a former Dutch player of the year that got 11 league goals in his debut PL season will easily get £12m+ in today’s ever more inflated market. His anonymity in 80% of matches will be overlooked, that’s if they’re even aware of his disappearing acts to the extent we are – I doubt it.

    Sissoko likewise. There aren’t many players in the world with his running power. His flakiness will be overlooked because every manager thinks they’re the one who can crack such players. He’ll likely start for France and they’ll go far in the Euros. He had an awesome last game, knowing he was in the shop window, everybody took notice and remarked on it. Again, clubs are flush with cash these days and £12-15m isn’t the big money it used to be.

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    BDM has been defending Mister Tuff so fawning like that people might think it’s Tuff himself. Who else bar sack llambias would set out to try and frame another poster. Wow, Sack Llambias had the same hotlink as Jack Root. Jack Root and BDM both have a knowledge of Soviet dissidents. Fcuk me what a coincidence!

  • 47 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:14 PM

    What’s this place coming to?

    Now we have Ron Knee, perhaps digging-out Jiblet’s lecture notes from when he read the Greats at Cambridge or, perhaps he took the magnificent BDM’s reading list advice and studied Camus’s text (in the original French, I hope) before mentioning The Myth of Sisyphus previously.

    I now feel a bit like Dvo?ák’s Saint Ludmila trying to spread Christianity amongst the pagans … that reading list might just be having an effect on the blog’s Fred Flintstones and Barny Rubbles.

  • 48 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Jail
    I don’t know. But I’m on the case. They represented themselves as just a group of mates who decided to have some ragtime. Looked authentic. We need to up our game. I would’ve joined in but I’ve got not rythym and forgotten any Spanish I ever knew. I can only offer a Stentorian voice that shakes the foundations but it drives everyone away.

  • 49 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 8:25 PM

    Tsunki
    I think you’ve attracted a friend.

  • 50 Oldgit1 // May 28, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Ok Jail, I may drop Sissoko price to 15 m and that’s due to how much of his contract has to run, but still stick to £20mil for gini who was our top goal scorer and can see him getting better, possible with Roma.

    I don’t see gini cutting the mustard in the prem league though.

  • 51 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    Jail … of course you’d  be a fool to tolerate my style of posting when you don’t have to, I suppose it’s like food you don’t eat with a spoon or a straw!!!  Clearly, my narcissistic megalomania isn’t working on you.

    Remember, neither the Apostolic certainties nor the mild Erastianism gives much of a sense of purpose on the blog once the temporal power of BDM’s musings have been sloughed off by any sort of criticism, which should be viewed as sacrilege.

  • 52 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    Dvo?ák’s = Dvo?ák’s

  • 53 Mister Tuff // May 28, 2016 at 8:42 PM

    For the record I fly solo.

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // May 28, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    BDM,
    Never been a fan of blog historian “first time posters” . Succinctly put, I think you are a fraud!

  • 55 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Oh, the blog doesn’t like the Czech ‘r’. Poo!

  • 56 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    It’s half time and the Real Madrid shirts are pouring out for some scoff. Part-timers.

  • 57 Mister Tuff // May 28, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Not a classic final so far – lots of skillful play but next to no goalmouth action.
    My word that Gareth Bale is an ugly devil – do not like his poncey hair do – what’s all that about – looks like a tart.

  • 58 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Will BDM be quoting the Apocalypse of Peter and raging against dry canals? Or the Gospel of Judas or the Testimony of Truth?

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Not being but he probably say the same thing about you, besides bale is class but then again he is Welsh so what do you expect.

  • 60 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    BDM bows obsequiously before Judge Jail, his curdled mess of a face streaming with crocko tears and ready to take his punishment.

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Penalty coming up.

  • 62 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    And he’s missed, what a doughnut.

  • 63 Back Door Man // May 28, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    That famous Taffy poet R.S.Thomas got it spot on about the Shaggers … ” An impotent people, sick with inbreeding, worrying the carcass of an old song” and he was describing his own folk!

  • 64 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    I’ve just had a thought, yes i know lend it to jail, i think Back Door Man is John Tudor, both post their comments in riddles.

  • 65 martoon // May 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    BDM you really are a pompous prat. I’m probably educated to a higher level than you but the word gulag just happens to have passed me by – nothing wrong admitting to that!

  • 66 Toonboy_84 // May 28, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    Haven’t commented on here in about 3 years but always following……

    Just a short one from me regarding gouffran…

    I’ve seen over and over again that he needs to be shipped out….To me he seems exactly the type of squad player we need for a season in the championship.

    Will run all day long, plays in a few positions and will probably chip in with a few goals.

    Am I missing something??

  • 67 Jib // May 28, 2016 at 9:21 PM

    A Welsh Landscape
    – is a lamentation for a Wales lost to the influence of perfidious Albion (those English again).

    It’s rather fine and only a fool would use it to abuse the Welsh.

    To live in Wales is to be conscious
    At dusk of the spilled blood
    That went into the making of the wild sky,
    Dyeing the immaculate rivers
    In all their courses.
    It is to be aware,
    Above the noisy tractor
    And hum of the machine
    Of strife in the strung woods,
    Vibrant with sped arrows.
    You cannot live in the present,
    At least not in Wales.
    There is the language for instance,
    The soft consonants
    Strange to the ear.
    There are cries in the dark at night
    As owls answer the moon,
    And thick ambush of shadows,
    Hushed at the fields’ corners.
    There is no present in Wales,
    And no future;
    There is only the past,
    Brittle with relics,
    Wind-bitten towers and castles
    With sham ghosts;
    Mouldering quarries and mines;
    And an impotent people,
    Sick with inbreeding,
    Worrying the carcase of an old song.

    R. S. Thomas 1913-2000

  • 68 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    Martoon

    I have been observing this for a while. I decided not to post while the utter drivvel of BDM is still apparent. It seems to me that he is attempting to create some kind of comedy persona, and failing spectacularly. I dont usually mind a bit of daft carry-on on the blog, but, while i expect BDM himself will claim his humour is too clever and complicated for us, i would say it is just plain weak.

  • 69 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    Get in, Athletico! Hanging on by the hairs on thier bollocks, and they have just equalised

  • 70 Ron Knee // May 28, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    Game on!

  • 71 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    Cut BDM some slack please. Harmless fellow.

  • 72 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    No. I wont. He is chucking jibes around and avoiding football all together. He deserves no slack.

  • 73 Yo-yo // May 28, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    JIB
    R S Thomas was not writing about the English directly.
    His work is more subtle than that.

  • 74 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    Yellow card right call. There were 2 other men back

  • 75 jimmysmith // May 28, 2016 at 9:43 PM

    35 million for those two, if they were to go to EPL clubs, isn’t an unrealistic figure to want. Can’t get that much from the Italian clubs, who are a more likely destination. Jib’s suggestion of swaps though has great possibilities. Some high quality youngsters would fit the bill nicely, along with one or two experienced freebies of the calibre of Agger, and dare we dream, Alonso.

  • 76 Tsunki // May 28, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Blackley – there is only one thing worse than being talked about. 🙂

    Reading through my embittered back passage guys’ post heightens my appreciation for the precious commodities of time, and ultimately, life. .

  • 77 Munster Mag // May 28, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Would be happy for rafa to source a few spanish blokes . Miles ahead of the pr!em in skill levels and aggression is not lacking either. I like. Athletico so hope th!ey do it

  • 78 Yo-yo // May 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    BDM
    If you only knew what RS Thomas felt about the English, (as opposed to how he felt about his own nation) you would be a little less culturally ignorant.

  • 79 Jib // May 28, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Mr Clattenburg of Gosforth is increasingly using his little book.

  • 80 Tsunki // May 28, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    Mark seed that up nicely. I noticed BPG, sorry BDM, soon feels the need to draw others into his failing diatribes by random insults. Probably best to ignore him until he tires of the persona, pretty sure that most of us have already.

  • 81 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 9:54 PM

    How that lazy selfish b@sterd can be called the best footballer in the world is beyond me

  • 82 martoon // May 28, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    YCMIU yeah you’re right I don’t normally rise to such comments but one too many sherries tonight – still hoping for an Athletico win tonight to wipe the smug look off Ronaldo’s face.

  • 83 Ron Knee // May 28, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    You mean Gouffran?

  • 84 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Martoon and Clinath

    You both just summed up ronaldo perfectly. Ronaldo and The Outlaw Gareth Wales have had poor games tonight.

  • 85 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    So has Benzema for that matter. You would expect at least one of them to have been at it tonight. If they had, the game would have been over at half time. As it is, Athletico are finishing the stronger.

  • 86 jimmysmith // May 28, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    He’s injured. Atletico Champions of Europe, alongside Leicester Champions of England, and Newcastle soon to be CHAMPIONS OF THE SECOND TIER, HUZZAH!!!!!!!!

  • 87 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:04 PM

    I’m probably biased, as I’ve hated him for years. But everything about him makes my skin crawl. Then the way the worlds pundits lazily fawn all over his every move drives me mad…..

  • 88 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    Having said all that, the tw@ will score the winner, and they’ll give him MOM

  • 89 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    Clinath

    He has become even more petulant, since he is really only the second best player in the world. He is all about himself. Messi,on the other hand…. well,it’s all been said many times.

  • 90 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:08 PM

    Agree on Messi. The most alround footballer the world ha ever seen…..imo.

  • 91 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    ….and you will recieve no argument from me.

  • 92 Blackley and Brownlie // May 28, 2016 at 10:10 PM

    YCMIU
    There’s not much football to talk about. BDM’s turn of phrase makes me laugh at times. Jiblet reading the greats at Cambridge, indeed.

  • 93 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:10 PM

    YouCouldn’tMakeItUp

    Gareth Bale not Wales, not a one man team, ffs.

  • 94 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    Real are having a spell.
    Public vote for MOM, which means all of CR7s fan boys and girls will ensure he gets it, when he does not deserve it

  • 95 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    Bkackley

    The UCL final is on. Thats plenty.

  • 96 Ron Knee // May 28, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    It’s ‘read Greats’, not ‘the Greats’.

  • 97 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    Messi has only played in Spain, would he score the same amount of goals in the premier league as Ronaldo and be just as successful, probably not.

  • 98 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    Oh look,I got a very late bite. Whi fancies a bit of fish n chips?

  • 99 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    Who*

  • 100 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    I wouldn’t care if Messi played in the Scottish second decision, he would still be the most gifted footballer alive.
    Where as the othe bast@d would be standing around complaining no one was passing to him.

  • 101 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Messi would have succeded in any league. He has scored against prem teams in big matches, and made good prem players look ordinary.

  • 102 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:18 PM

    This is going to penalties. You know that Real will sneak it on pens.

  • 103 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Appart from a sprinkling here and there, it’s only really Real fans and Man U fans who say Ronaldo is the greatest.

  • 104 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    Ronald’s is a product of today’s gift wrapped soccer package. He his rate the base, because we are told he is.
    I ask fans to spend the time and WATCH him throughout a game, and then you’d understand…..sorry for the rant. But I fkn hate him

  • 105 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    a lot of drama queens on the pitch in extra time.

  • 106 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    Rated the best…ffs

  • 107 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:23 PM

    Here we go…..

  • 108 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:25 PM

    I’m sure other fans of teams would say he is the best to be honest, if he went to Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City if he went to either of those.

  • 109 jimmysmith // May 28, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    Ronaldo’s goal scoring record at Madrid is beyond phenomenal. If he is indeed all about himself, it hardly matters. It really would be no surprise at all should he grab a last gasp winner, and his side be crowned Champions of Europe to add to its ever increasing list of major trophies.

  • 110 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:26 PM

    He’s been one of the best players ever in this league.

  • 111 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    After me Praising him I bet he misses a penalty.

    Ha ha ha

  • 112 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    What you all agree on is that he is the best goal scorer……not the best footballer

  • 113 BandB // May 28, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    He is a rococo show pony.
    So is Cristiano Ronaldo.

  • 114 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    Here we go, here comes Ronaldo, have i jinxed him.

  • 115 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    I do not fkn believe it

  • 116 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    He scores.

  • 117 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    B@stard. He’s done fcuk all for the entire game, and the sh1te will take the glory.

  • 118 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    ..but I did predict it to the missus

  • 119 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    He’s done fcuk all for 2 hours, now he’s carrying on as if he’s discovered the cure for cancer.

  • 120 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    Hope he’s booked for taking his shirt of….tw@

  • 121 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    You’ve got to laugh though.

  • 122 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    I Don’t blame him for being happy, but crediting him with winning it is a stretch. Juanfran lost it would be more accurate. Never looked comfortable.

  • 123 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    Perhaps we can get Torres in now.

  • 124 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:41 PM

    Right boxing on now. Enough of watching the ronaldo c0ck suck fest

  • 125 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:41 PM

    Oh aye Welshie…..the irony is not lost on me mate.

  • 126 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Its always the player that has a bad game that scores the key pen

  • 127 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:48 PM

    I feel your hurt Atletico.

  • 128 welshgeordie9 // May 28, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    They will be one of the favourites next season, so they will get another chance.

  • 129 clinath@ed // May 28, 2016 at 10:53 PM

    Off to bed…..the loons can have the blog back.

  • 130 martoon // May 28, 2016 at 10:55 PM

    Don’t worry lads that will be us in 3 years time under Rafa 😉

  • 131 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // May 28, 2016 at 11:11 PM

    Martoon

    I hope so!

  • 132 BandB // May 28, 2016 at 11:20 PM

    clinath,
    ed.

    Good to see you posting and to learn how much you REALLY dislike Ronaldo and, of course. loons.
    You are right like. Lack of anything interesting to say and people signing off with an ill-natured snipe is killing this blog.
    Great to see you ushering in a new era.

  • 133 Essex Geordie Bill // May 29, 2016 at 1:08 AM

    I loved the way Clattenberg stood shaking his head in disgust at the antics pf Pepe, I also liked the way the defender just walked away with disdain from the not stricken Pepe. I would hope never to see a Toon player roll about the floor like that, pathetic.

  • 134 Essex Geordie Bill // May 29, 2016 at 1:11 AM

    Looks like the loons have gone to bed as well.

  • 135 Blofal // May 29, 2016 at 3:09 AM

    Sissoko will stay if Rafa wants him to. They seem to have a good relationship and Sissoko would tear the championship to shreds (if he works on his finishing).

    Wijnaldum will leave.

    Interesting that Cisse has said he is not going anywhere. I think Cisse would struggle in the championship. I can’t remember the last time he scored with a shot from open play. It’s been the odd header and thats it.

  • 136 Ron Knee // May 29, 2016 at 6:43 AM

    So two of last season’s relegated teams have won promotion at the first attempt. A good sign for us, surely.

  • 137 expatmag // May 29, 2016 at 7:03 AM

    Ron

    We shouldnt be there in the first place mate. Damn disgrace

  • 138 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:09 AM

    These words from AT mean he will be staying I think

    “I owe a lot to Newcastle for getting me playing Premier League football again and getting me back in the England squad .

    So I owe it to them bigtime and hopefully I did Newcastle proud when I came on, It’s been good [to be back involved].”

  • 139 Ron Knee // May 29, 2016 at 7:10 AM

    expat

    We flirted with relegation for a number of seasons so it wasn’t a surprise when it finally happened. I just hope Benitez is allowed to get on with the job without let or hindrance!

  • 140 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:15 AM

    From last nights game Real Madrid are entitled to around €40.6 million in market pool money plus €53.4m in performance based money.

    Rafa’s contract with RM gives him 1% of that!

    €980,000 for watching telly on a Saturday night !

    Nice
    😀

  • 141 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:21 AM

    Expat

    Looking at the glass half full.

    A freakish set of circumstances resulted in us getting the services of one of the current elite coaches/managers and Ashley giving him full control.
    I suspect in the future , this relegation and the way it panned out , may be viewed as a blessing in disguise.

  • 142 expatmag // May 29, 2016 at 7:30 AM

    JIB

    Bevertheless, with the quality of thus squad, we should never have veen anywhere near the relegation fight this season.

    I was over in the UK last September and was at a couple of games we should have won but lost. A downright disgrace.

  • 143 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:37 AM

    One of the Spanish Sports papers reckons Rafa was in Milan disguises as a UEFA Observer

  • 144 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:39 AM

    disguised even

    http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/champions/que-hacia-benitez-the-observer-final-champions-5165741

  • 145 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 7:43 AM

    Expat
    You are right of course

    But which would you prefer

    1. Avoiding the drop and keeping McClaren
    2. Relegation and gaining Benitez

    Don’t say avoiding the drop and keeping Benitez because with Sunderland’s freakish wins it was never going to happen

  • 146 martoon // May 29, 2016 at 7:56 AM

    Jib – I wonder if Rafa gets a winners medal? After-all he was their manager in the initial league stages!

  • 147 Munster Mag // May 29, 2016 at 8:01 AM

    Jib sunderlands wins freakish? Not sure about that. Rafa, as is his football philosophy, was too defensive against them. We messed up all our 6 pointers under him but most fans are reluctant to admit it . Sam had better players in the spine of his team though, due to sunderland having a normal transfer policy. Still i wud rather be down and have rafa change the club, than stay up with mclaren.

  • 148 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 8:06 AM

    Italian clubs talk much more freely to the media than occurs in the UK.

    It has been confirmed this morning by Giuseppe (Beppo) Marota the Director of Sport at Juventus that NUFC have replied positively to an enquiry about Darryl Janmaat

    http://mondotivu.info/2016/05/29/144788-dalla-spagna-juventus-mascherano-c-laccordo.html

  • 149 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 8:08 AM

    Martoon
    He should
    He managed them for 6 Euro games won 5 drew 1 with a win ratio of 85.33% !

  • 150 expatmag // May 29, 2016 at 8:11 AM

    MUNSTER

    Facts show that if Chelsea had taken their chances at Sunderland and we had taken our chances at Villa, it would have been them relegated and not us.

    Having said though, McLaren turned out to be a bad appointment and we changed it too late, unlike Sunderland, who got Allardyce in early and brought in some very good playrrs in January whereas we didnt.

  • 151 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM

    Munster

    Sunluns last 6 games 3 wins 3 draws including coming back at Chelsea after being 2 – 0 down.

    They had shown nothing like that before .

    At least we had a new manager to explain our upturn in fortunes

    Allardyce said he told his wife that the Mackems were getting relegated after we beat Palace , he wasn’t expecting the run they had at the end – hence – freakish.

  • 152 Jail for Ashley // May 29, 2016 at 8:27 AM

    Munster,
    You’re hell bent on pinning the blame on Rafa for those games we didn’t win, nothing to do with the players who just refused to turn up against lesser teams, we were shite against Swansea and Palace as well but managed to win. We hadn’t scored against the mackems for six games, he had an unlucky fixture run in and was let down by a core of players seemingly determined to get us relegated. They know who they are.

  • 153 Jail for Ashley // May 29, 2016 at 8:29 AM

    Jib,
    You can tell when you make off the cuff statements, they’re wrong. They weren’t 0-2 down. Stick to Google!

  • 154 Jail for Ashley // May 29, 2016 at 8:38 AM

    83.33% ratio as well.

  • 155 Jib // May 29, 2016 at 8:44 AM

    Wahay Jail 1 -2 down at half-time
    Bet you got a hardon cos you caught me out.
    Do a lap of honour
    I don’t remember it too well cos I was watching us cocking it up against Villa.

    You were very quick on the draw with a Mackem correction – mmmmm – I wonder ?
    😎




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