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Ross McCormack Release Clause Higher Than Expected

2:36 pm, Saturday, June 4th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 148 Comments

There is a report in London today that the release clause in Ross McCormack’s contract at Fulham is not for the £12.5M that has previously been reported – but it’s for £15M.

At least according to the web-site GetWestLondon.

The report says thaTt GetWestLondon have been told by reliable sources the player signed an extension to his contract in January that keeps him at Fulham for the next four years.

At that time they increased the release clause by another £2.5M from the £12.5M it had previously been set at.

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Ross McCormack

The three relegated Premier League clubs Newcastle, Aston Villa and Norwich had all been credited with an interest in McCormack, who scored 23 goals last season for Fulham, as the Cottagers struggled against relegation.

West Brom are one of the PL clubs who are also interested in  signing the 29 year-old Scottish striker.

But maybe Newcastle  have learned a lesson from not coughing up the £15M for Charlie Austin last summer, that ultimately caused us to be relegated.

Newcastle had no recognized consistent goalscorer in the side last season, as new striker signing Aleksandar Mitrovic struggled to get to grips with the Premier League in his first season in England.

That ultimately cost the club at least£100M in lost revenue for next season, because of relegation.


However, whether we go after Ross is now completely up to new manager Rafa Benitez.

What do you think?

Is Ross McCormack Worth £15M To Newcastle?

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Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

148 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Hail Wor Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    Yeah well, even if the release clauses are true, Fulham are in no position to be turning down £10m.

  • 2 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    If we want him, and it’s a big IF, then go down there and sell the club to him. We surely are his best chance of playing in the prem! Get him to put in transfer request, make a decent offer and let’s see where we go…

  • 3 Spoof // Jun 4, 2016 at 2:55 PM

    That’s a hell of a lot of money ?

  • 4 SPRINGY // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:01 PM

    not for me at that price and age….7-8m fair enough but thats a ridiculous amount of money….look elsewhere.

  • 5 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:13 PM

    Yes if he gets us up

    but is a lot of money £15 million when Arsenal have triggered Vardy’s release clause for £20 million

  • 6 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    £15m for a player not even tested in the PL is a joke. Save the money and build the team around supplying Arma with balls to match his runs and let his natural ability take care of the rest. We need a team ready to step back into the PL. Arma’s season at Coventry has readied him for the Championship and a season there will prepare him for the following season in the PL. Natural progression. McCormack isn’t getting any younger and although he is proven in the Championship, I think we should be looking further ahead than that.

  • 7 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    He doesn’t have to be good enough for the premiership, just hood enough to get us out of the championship.

  • 8 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    Though, I do agree Arma should be given a chance, don’t think he will let us down and will go on to surprise a lot of people both on here and out there.

  • 9 SPRINGY // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    should we sell sissoko,gini,mitro and janmaat?…..with aarons,sdj,arma and mbabu and possibly phillips from qpr would they really be missed…..i only throw mitro’s name in coz of the sporting lisbon link and arma looking decent last season….think he’s a decent player actually and could do well in the championship.

  • 10 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Clin, i do get the point about getting us out the Championship, but 15m is a lot of money for a Championship player. You can get proven PL quality for that price. I thought McCormack would be good value at the right price, but that ain’t the right price I had in mind! 😉

  • 11 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:43 PM

    Springy, that Sporting link was a joke matey. It wasn’t even an interview and had no backing from Sporting themselves. He was set up and I think his answers were standard. Yes, it is nice to be linked to a top club in the CL, but he cut the conversation dead in two comments. It was mischief making at best. Seems like The Record is the sporting equivalent of the National Inquirer. 😉

  • 12 SPRINGY // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    i read it was just bollicks the other day,just thought i’d throw his name in the mix since the speculation, thats all mate….rafa seems to be getting things sorted,bit more decisive then wally ever looked like doing.

  • 13 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    I don’t disagree with you on that Bobby. But it’s the old saying, ” don’t ask how much will he cost if we buy him, as opposed to how much it would cost us if we didn’t..”
    I’d like to know who in the premiership we could buy this summer or indeed, who would come to us?

  • 14 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    Springy, I’d like to see how Mitro does next season, if Rafa decides to retain him – he didn’t look best pleased with the red card v Spurs, after all. Can’t see us playing 4231 at home to lesser teams, so there might be a chance for a little n large partnership to form. Those two in tandem might prove very interesting. Nobody need worry about Arma stepping up, he’ll take it in his stride. Natural finishers like him are few and far between and I expect Rafa to take advantage of it. Exciting times ahead mate. Bring it on! 😉

  • 15 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    After all the fuss about the lad from QPR, he hardly set Southampton alight when he got there. I’m convinced Arma will get us plenty of goals, as he just keeps improving season on season. Plus Rafa has a book of strikers he can refer to. Just 15m for a 29/30 yr old strikes me as excessive, when the Championship is the highest level he’s played at.

  • 16 WWSBRD // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Fans get very precious about our bank balance don’t they? I don’t care what we pay for him if he’s a good player who will score goals get him

    We are, after all, quite a rich club let’s not forget (despite what we are so often told)

  • 17 WWSBRD // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:10 PM

    U have to remember though mate we heard all this gushing before over Adam Campbell (and a list of others too) not too long ago. We can’t rely on an untested kid we did that with Mitro and look where we are now

  • 18 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:12 PM

    Clin, we could get Carroll for that price and we all know what he did in the Championship! 😉 He might even come with Rafa selling him his vision about his home town club. Not beyond belief. I just think Rafa won’t see McCormack as value for money at that price myself, but I could easily be wrong.

  • 19 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:21 PM

    I’ll give you that one Bobby mate.?
    As for comparing Arma with your mr Campbell, well, there isn’t any. Campbell never had the physique to compete at the highest level and so, imo, was overhyped. Anyone who has spent any time watching young Arma would see that this lad could go all the way. Has scored for fun for England at every age level so far, and his record last season has been covered at full….
    If he can get a regular starting position iN Rafa’s side, I do not think he will disappoint..

  • 20 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:21 PM

    WWSBRD, Campbell was never even on the same page as Arma mate. I never rated him myself and didn’t see anything like I see in Arma. Completely opposite ends of the spectrum. Did you see the link I posted yesterday? This kid’s the real deal matey and I can’t wait to see him next season. Seriously, I get why people are a bit hesitant, if they haven’t followed him like i have, but since Gazza came through our Academy, Arma is by far and away the best to follow. You just have to look at the sheer quality of his movement off the ball and his finishing power to realise he’s going to be a very special player.

  • 21 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:22 PM

    Can’t get me emoji to work, Bobby, that ? Was meant to be a winking smile

  • 22 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:23 PM

    Bobby and Clinath……team Arma

  • 23 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:25 PM

    Clin, his England record was 25 games, 20 goals not long ago. He’s playing today, but i can’t find a link to watch him.

  • 24 toonluvva // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    Is McCormack worth the £15m? I honestly don’t know.

    But what I am sure about is that the Toon has to be on the front foot over the next two transfer windows.

    Over the summer we need to clear out those players who don’t want to be here. Cisse and Sissoko for example. Also those who just don’t fit in anymore. I would also like to hope that Rafa will be allowed to clear out some of the deadwood. We may even reluctantly have to allow some players to leave, Krul, Gini and Townsend to name but three.

    Our objective will be to gain promotion back into the PL. Hopefully Mr Ashley has now got the message that we have no divine right to play in that league!

    We will have to build two separate teams. The first to get back up. That might involve bringing in some players such as McCormack just for the short term. Once that has been achieved, we need to form a squad capable not only of surviving but actually thriving in the PL!
    The coming few months are going to be very interesting. With Charnley taking a back seat on recruitment, we just need Ashley to open his cheque book.

  • 25 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:34 PM

    Yeah Bobby, England U19s against Mexico, I think. Saw a TV link earlier today, may have missed the match I’m afraid.

  • 26 Back Door Man // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    Bobby – nowt wrong with the National Enquirer for the info on that ‘3-in-a-bed-gay-celeb-romp-candle-in-the-wind’ banned story a few weeks ago. The trick with all these High Court bans on any English (and in sympathy Jocko) media reporting these celeb stories is to Google for ‘images’ and you get the front page stories, whereas, if you just Google for the story you get blocked-out. When the image comes up you just zoom in to read.

    As to the return of Carroll …I’m a great believer in ‘never go back’.

  • 27 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    Clin, i’ll go with that mate. 😉 For anybody who’s followed the lad it’s a no brainer innit? Not to worry though, I know for a fact that he’ll soon have the entire Toon Army raving about him before long. If we had his finishing power this season, relegation would never have happened. We created chances, just failed to take them.

  • 28 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:41 PM

    Clin, yeah, i did see those links but none of them worked for me. We’ll get the highlights later no doubt. I’m hoping the u19’s Euro’s will be on the box in some shape or form. Arma and Woody in that.

    BDM, I dunno, i think Carroll left far too early and could do a great job for us both next season and on our glorious return to the PL. 😉 That Inquirer certainly has had some cracking stories over the years, despite them being mainly fictitious 😉

  • 29 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    i don’t think the fans are precious at all, but we’ve just seen too much wasted on cabella, thauvin, riviere, etc

  • 30 cyprus // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    So Carver takes over Omonoia Nicosia.

    Best of luck mate. They will expectat least a trophy. I’m sure you have learned that this team’s fans are louder than the Newcastle ones, believe it or not. I’ve experienced both sets. Just fewer.

    Still, it’s a very popular team with CL aspirations.

  • 31 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    Clin, someone posted the full emoji link the other day, but i didn’t bother with it myself. A basic smiley does me. Space, followed by ; and ) and space does it for me. 😉

  • 32 cyprus // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Dabizas, who is that team’s football director brought him over.

  • 33 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    Rotunda, I don’t think splashing out too much on players is a good idea myself. The last thing we need is Ashley thinking he’s not getting value for money again and reverting to type. I just can’t see Rafa spending that amount on a Championship player when better options are available, do you?

  • 34 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:53 PM


  • 35 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    Cyprus, didn’t realise that Dabizas was involved. You learn something new every day. 😉

  • 36 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:53 PM

    Cheers Bobby…it worked 😉

  • 37 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    That’s the one clin!

  • 38 cyprus // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:00 PM


    It was all over the radio that dabizas was coming back with a signing.

    Hope the pair do ok. Management here is very trigger happy. Two losses you’re out 🙂

    Ketspaia won Apoel Nicosia the championship this year, so CL football. He was promptly fired.

  • 39 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:00 PM

    Well, ‘Dad’s Taxi’ is called upon, so i must jump to the command. 😉 Been nice though, just talking football. Cheers to all. Later.

  • 40 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:02 PM

    Cyprus, crikey, sounds like a dodgy business out there! Chelsea would fit right in! 😉 later mate.

  • 41 cyprus // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:03 PM

    And owners here comment on games, referees etc. on a regular basis. Imagine Mike doing that, or that Thai guy, or those people who own a country and a club…

  • 42 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    The much maligned manager who helped the Toon avoid the drop to the second tier of English football takes over at a club playing in European competition, whilst another manager, fresh from Real Madrid, takes over at the Toon in the second tier. You couldn’t make it up.

  • 43 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:18 PM

    ”who helped the Toon avoid the drop” what was carver’s record again lol? !!!

  • 44 Belfast // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    I suppose if you get 170 million for promotion and he scores 25 goals and you get promoted he’s worth it lol

  • 45 Belfast // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    Does seem a ridiculous fee for a championship player but I’m sure he was well paid for them bumping up the release clause.

  • 46 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 4, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    Carver picked up enough points to avoid the drop with a team that could not avoid the drop after having £80m spent on it.

  • 47 WWSBRD // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    Haha mate I heard the exact same about Campbell when he was the next quality player through our ranks. My main issue is that our youth setup is embarrassing so how can I have any faith in what comes out of it?

  • 48 WWSBRD // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    We’ve seen plenty spent well too

  • 49 toon kk // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    I still mainly hold our players responsible for us being relegated. Almost every player did not play to there potential and didn’t give a toss.
    Millions were wasted on the wrong players, but the players we have should hold their heads in shame.
    Good job Rafa has steadied the sinking ship.

  • 50 Nufc-83 // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Bobby your making out like you discovered Arma most toon fans I speak to are all raving about the kid and not many need to be convinced (like wwsbrd). I am with you and most people that Arma is the most natural striker we have at the club and I expect big things.

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    This is not good. Johnny C. off to Cyprus? Who’s going to do the perm on Steve McTosser’s tufty now? Aboslutlely unacceptable…. Harrumph….

  • 52 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    How could we let such a brilliant coiffer of hair go off to Cyprus? I mean this man is a genius with comb and scissors. Something’s got to be done!!!

  • 53 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    And who’s going to run the spa while Johnny C. is away? The whole operation could implode!

  • 54 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Bits of spa gel and hairpieces everywhere. Nobody rinsing the mud baths! A horror show! Don’t go Johnny C.!

  • 55 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Bobby Bee
    Nufc-83 is right
    How very dare you make out you discovered Arma.
    Geordie 2
    I hope you have copyrighted your brilliantly funny comments on Steve McClaren’s hair.

  • 56 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    I just want to make it clear that this is absolutely unacceptable. Johnny C. was just going to get his England call up as head hairdresser. And he was going to be given complete control of the luffas. Where does that leave England now on the eve of an important tournament? Harrumph…..

  • 57 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    How very dare you make out you discovered Arma? Bobbybee very dare!

  • 58 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    And that’s why they call him Jib Jibberish….

  • 59 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    I think we’ll snap up the following:

    Arbeloa – Free
    Agger – Free
    Lleyton Baines – £3m
    Xabi Alonso – Free
    Abeid – £2.5m
    Andy Carroll – Loan
    Britt Assombalonga – £5m

    Total = £10m


    Wijnaldum – £18m
    Colback – £5m
    Dummett – £6m

  • 60 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:25 PM

    And what group of pinheads brought in the players you blame toonkk mate? Yes that’s right our very own executive pinhead group. There was Lee and Graham and Steve all working to bring in the wrong group of players. So I blame them and Ashley for putting together the most unbalanced side in the Prem next to Villa.

  • 61 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:26 PM

    In fact EPG is an excellent name for them. The Executive Pinhead Group. Most of whom still work at the club…..

  • 62 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    No, definitely didn’t say i discovered Arma! 😉 Wouldn’t mind being his agent like, coz he’s going places. Just very excited by a player i’ve been raving about since he was 16, despite being repeatedly told he’ll never make it by people who know better. Absolutely no apology for being excited by the kid, he’s the best thing we’ve brought through since Gazza by a country mile and imo we don’t need to splash out on a striker when we’ve got one who’s going to be better than all those mentioned. Fancy getting pulled up for being excited about a Toon player on a Toon blog. 😉 Whatecer bext?

  • 63 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:27 PM

    Next even. 😉

  • 64 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:28 PM

    And why would Baines want to come to a Championship club ketsy mate? Or Carroll on loan? Not going to happen.

  • 65 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:29 PM

    Steve Mcclaren has the best hairline in the world. He’s lost nearly all of his hair apart from the 3 ginger hairs at the front. I might try that style.

  • 66 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    Baines can’t get in the Everton team. We have Benitez as manager and probably have a better squad than Everton at the moment. West Ham are signing 2-3 strikers so that’ll free big Andy up.

  • 67 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:32 PM

    It would appear that some Brit humour has completely bypassed good old Canada

  • 68 hibbitt // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:33 PM


    hope your lass never finds out about this man crush with arma

    bobby the kids good but has a lot to prove
    your setting him up for a big fall in the eyes of the blog

  • 69 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:34 PM


  • 70 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:35 PM

    We have a better squad than Everton, yet Everton didn’t get relegated and we did ketsy. Hmmmm. Something doesn’t add up there.

  • 71 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    Can’t find the result of England’s u19’s game in mexico today. Anybody else know?

  • 72 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    Ha ha ha G2

  • 73 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM

    The next two seasons will be critical for Armstrong and several other youngsters at the club. Some will make it, some won’t. Armstrong, Toney, Mbabu, and Aarons will have to prove themselves to Rafa. There are several others he’ll be having a close look at as well.

  • 74 WWSBRD // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:40 PM

    Just putting it out there

  • 75 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    Funny stuff Jibberish.

  • 76 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    Stop trying to look insightful Geordie 2
    Keep with the hair comments you pr!ck

  • 77 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    Hibbett, i’m not mate, because he’s going to prove me right in every way shape and form. 😉 imo this kid is going to be a very special player. That’s how i’ve felt since his academy days and nothing has changed my mind since then. No doubt if i am wrong, i’ll get my nose rubbed in it big style, but that’s what happens when you go out on a limb. He won’t get it, but i know i will on here. Nothing’s more guaranteed. 😉

  • 78 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    Bobby…..U-19 lost 0-2. Armstrong was a substitute.

  • 79 The next Mike Williamson // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Didn’t Austin just get one goal? mitrovic got about 5 after January.

  • 80 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:49 PM

  • 81 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 7:57 PM

    Clin, bugger. Still, there’s another game on monday, so we’ll play a different team and hopefully win. Not the result needed before the u19’s kicks off.

    WWSBRD, just goes to show the experts know nowt then! 😉 No comparison between them mate. Most fans knew that he wouldn’t make it because he never really kicked on after that. Arma keeps improving, that’s the difference. Nowt wrong with a bit of pessimism though, just means you’re in for a cracking treat. 😉

  • 82 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:02 PM

    Cheers jib.

  • 83 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Am I bothering you Jibberish? Oh, that’s so sad for you.

  • 84 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Certainly hope the U19’s tourno is on tv. Euro sport might show it if nothing else. More interested in that than the big one, with both Arma and Woody representing the Toon. They were both in the U17’s England side that won their age group last time around. Both very good players. In fact, England’s future has taken a big upturn lately. We’ve got so many young lads just waiting to make the step up.

  • 85 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    Still, I very dare to bother you Jibberish. To put it in terms you should understand.

  • 86 GeordieTwo // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Adam Campbell does look to be struggling these days. Five appearances for Notts County with no goals. I’m not as sure as Bobbybee about Armstrong but I think Rafa will give him the opportunities to prove himself.

  • 87 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Definitely disagree with signing Mccormack- too old and would rather have Mitro, Perez and Armstrong learning in the championship with maybe one other young striker as well.

  • 88 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    I was talking to a Borough fan about Jordan Rhodes, he’d do very nicely but they’d want a fortune him and he probably wants to stay in the PL now he’s finally made it there.

  • 89 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:30 PM

    If we want to come straight back up we need a proven goal scorer. It’s too much pressure to put on Armstrong and Mitros finishing is suspect.

  • 90 Nufc-83 // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:31 PM

    Sorry Bobby that sounded really harsh ha. I like you think when you watch him you can see the quality he possess regradless of what league or opposition he is against his movement, touch and finsihing ability would remain the same and he would do the business.

    Kets i am aware you are looking for a bite with that list but i really do feel like slapping you as its so annoying.

  • 91 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:31 PM
    Bobby this is the schedule for the tournament this Summer.
    UEFA is going to try to show the games live on Youtube
    I’ll post the links as and when.

  • 92 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    Gonufc. My point exactly matey. A season in the Championship might be the making of Mitrovic, giving him time to adapt to the English game whilst finding his shooting boots. Good chance for him and Arma to work together as well, for the following season. 15m for a Championship player is a joke imo. He’ll likely be stuck at Fulham with that price tag – which is, of course, what Fulham intended! He might well get a move and prove to be very useful for a couple of seasons more, to a team in the PL, but 15m is a big gamble for a club to make. Still, with the money abound in the PL this season, somebody might take a punt. His sell on value if he flops will be virtually nil, which is what makes him too much of a gamble for me.

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    That was one of his more realistic lists!

  • 94 clinath@ed // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:34 PM

    U-19 tournament….thanks Jib

  • 95 Jib // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:41 PM

    As an example of live You tube footy this is Montreal v Rochester – see what you think

  • 96 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:42 PM

    Nufc83, no offence taken my friend. 😉 I know i’ve been banging on about the kid since before most people had even heard of him, but i can’t help it! 😉 Like you say, his ball control and movement marks him out from the average player and his finishing is so classy. Regardless of what league or level of international he’s played at, his goals would still go in because he is so lethal. You can’t coach finishing either – you either can or you can’t. I accept i stand to make a mug of myself if he flops – and they’ll be queueing up on here to do, trust me – but it ain’t going to happen. Not with this lad. 😉

  • 97 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Cheers jib, knew i could rely on you to track it down! 😉 Looking forward to that more than the euro’s if I’m honest.

  • 98 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Well let’s up Armstrong bangs them in for us next season but we still need a proven striker just in case he doesn’t.

  • 99 Ron Knee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    France looking good for the Euros.

  • 100 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    Jib, aye, just checked that montreal game out. Cracking picture quality, nice one. Please remind me again though, closer to the time, because i know for a fact I’ll forget where it is. 😉 i was hoping to watch the mexico game on you tube, but it was another of those bollicky things they put up to wind you up. ‘Live stream will start in…’ NEVER! 😉

  • 101 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:54 PM

    Ron, can’t see past them for the winner, being on home soil AGAIN. They do look like a good side like. Are you watching by any chance?

  • 102 lochinvar // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    McCormack at £15m – his loss and Fulhams if they hold out for that sort of deal. We could have offered Steven Taylor and Colo to sweeten the deal which was a missed opportunity.
    That apart you have to believe that Rafa knows some up and coming talent that could rip up the Championship and just hope that’s the case.
    There’s more than one goal scorer out there and it’s just a case of finding them. For once not from Mondial.

  • 103 Ron Knee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    Yes. Scotland are being thoroughly outplayed.

  • 104 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 8:59 PM

    G2, following on from the montreal game, do you follow a team in Canada? If so, who and how are they doing?

  • 105 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    What channel is it on mate? Is it half time? Fancy a bit of that myself. Nowt like watching Scotland getting smashed after all. 😉 bit of English bias there!

  • 106 lochinvar // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    Old news or new news , not sure ?

    By Dan King – Newcastle United Digital Editor

    Newcastle United have confirmed their retained list ahead of next season.
    The Club have taken up an option to extend the contract of 21-year-old Kevin Mbabu for two more years.
    Swiss defender Mbabu, who joined the Magpies from Servette in January 2013, made his debut against Sheffield Wednesday in the Capital One Cup in September.
    His Barclays Premier League debut quickly followed and he was outstanding in a 2-2 draw against Chelsea. He went on to make three further appearances before injury cut his campaign short.
    Meanwhile, the Club have agreed new professional contracts for Macaulay Gillesphey, Liam Smith and Tom Heardman.
    Young striker Heardman has been offered a short-term deal after seeing his season curtailed by injury in 2015/16.
    Gillesphey and Smith – who both signed their first professional deals last summer – spent time on loan with Carlisle and Blackpool respectively last term.
    Professional contracts have also been offered to teenagers Stefan Broccoli, Kyle Cameron, Liam Gibson, Brendan Pearson and Callum Williams.
    And Academy players Luke Charman, Jamie Holmes, Jack Hunter, Sean Longstaff, Michael Newberry, Ben Smith, Dan Ward and Paul Woolston have been given extended scholarships.
    Leaving the Club alongside long-serving defender Steven Taylor are Jamie Cobain, Louis Johnson, Adam Laidler, Ben Pollock, Lewis Suddick and Jake Trodd.
    Pollock has agreed to sign for League Two Hartlepool United and the Club wishes them all well for the future.

  • 107 Ron Knee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:06 PM


  • 108 Hail Wor Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    Gini nets for Netherlands again. Hopefully piques the interest of a few clubs and he’s gone by the end of the month.

  • 109 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    I would like to add my best wishes for the future of the lads not making it. Doesn’t mean it’s the end though, some players develop younger than others. Keep that dream alive.

  • 110 Hail Wor Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:08 PM

    Why do San Marino bother? Walloped 10 against Croatia :’)

  • 111 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    Cheers Ron,swiching over now. Later chaps.

  • 112 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    £15million for McCormack? Is it 4 years in a row he has hit 15+ goals, generally in an average side. How much is promotion worth? Coupled with if we decide he isn’t good enough for the Prem, another side looking for a goalscorer would likely still pay money.

    I dont think he is anywhere near good enough for the Prem as a goalscorer, but could offer a hard working partner or back up. A poor mans Shane Long.

    On Arma, he is clearly talented. However he had Antoine Fortune bearing the brunt of the physical battles for him at Coventry. He will need someone doing that again for him. Mitro with Arma just off seems a partnership that could do very well, and could offer us a huge amount moving forward.

    On Campbell, he was a talented kid, scored for fun, but there were issues that became apparent at St Mirren that he lacked the desire. At the time I put it down to him not being in the right environment, but it hasn’t worked anywhere. In a few sub appearances for us he looked sharp, and had good movement, but his fellow players lacked faith in him. He is where he is because he never progressed, but he was very highly rated by the English FA youth set up right until he broke through. The club failed his development as much as he didn’t progress.

  • 113 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    On a similar note, Brad Inman seems to be heavily in demand according to my monthly Crewe news email. Interest from the top of the championship in the creative goalscoring midfielder and they will struggle to hold onto him apparently. He had bags of ability, but another who was failed by the club, and picked up a couple of career changing injuries with us. Hope he gets the move and does well.

    Heaney is the one I’m most looking forward to. I’m hoping he goes on loan to League 1 for half a season or full then comes back and starts pushing for a spot. Another one with bags of talent, that could easily make the grade as long as he keeps putting in the work, and the club allow him to grow and develop.

  • 114 stuart no9 // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM

    put it this way – no prem side is going to pay £15m for an uncapped untried CF– 8-10M or he stays at fulham coz no championship side could afford that

  • 115 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Looking to the future, Arma, Perez and Aarons playing off a focal point in Mitro could be mouthwatering. All have bags of potential, all young. It’s nice to dream occasionally of a bright future….

  • 116 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Also, congrats to Carver on the appointment. Not a popular figure round this blog, but a committed NUFC man through and through. Served us well for a long time and my first coach at the club. Hope he does well, in what is a very high pressure environment.

  • 117 cyprus // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Happy that one of our players is playing well so that we can sell him and get some money? Why?

    I don’t get that, sorry. Gini, if he stays, will be a big factor in our promotion. Remember this.

    Plenty of dead wood to be rid. That should free places and money. Overhaul yes, but keep our best.

  • 118 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    Lil, i thought fortune didn’t arrive until the jan transfer window? Can’t remember him being there at the start. Arma’s knocked some big lads of the ball, he doesn’t need protecting. Did you see the goal where he chased the CB down the line, who thought it was going out? Barged him off the ball, left him standing and banged it in. His low centre of gravity and stocky frame makes him difficult to move. Not saying he’s as good as, before anyone jumps in, but he’s a player in the Aguero model. Short, yes, but powerful enough to hold his own.

  • 119 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Lil, always thought Inman would eventually come good, he always seemed to have time on the ball, which impressed me. Hope he does it. Makes you wonder about our academy like. That said, we are finally bringing some good lads through and not before time. Dummett, Mbabu, Aarons and Arma were all in the same academy side. So was Roberts, who i still think might make it. Needs a loan i reckon. I suppose if you manage to survive our academy, you must be half decent! 😉

  • 120 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Fortune joined in September, and was the focal point of Coventry’s attack. He had the Liverpool kid, Arma and Murphy playing in and around him. It was Joe Cole who arrived in Jan I think.

    I’m not saying he doesn’t have his own physical attributes, but he benefitted a lot from Fortune doing a lot of physical donkey work. All three did. That isn’t a criticism in the slightest mind, Mogga worked the 4 of them very well, and each contributed to the others.

    My point is, that stick Arma up top on his own in a 4231 as Rafa is likely to play, he will struggle. Put him playing off Mitro with Townsend/Perez/Aarons/A.N.Other and he is more likely to thrive.

    Gini did well in patches, got the goals though, and in his first season in England got a very good return. I think he will only get better in the Prem, and if Koeman goes to Everton I’d expect him to head there. Wouldn’t shed too many tears though, provided we spent the money well on players who create a more consistent and balanced squad/side.

  • 121 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    Before moving away I spent a lot of time watching our academy. Arma was just starting in the 16’s then. Inman was a classy player who had his development hampered by injuries and an unwillingness to do loan deals back then. Newton was another who could have been more. I tried to sort a loan deal for him 2 years before he went out on loan and was told the club weren’t interested in loan deals.

    Inman and Donaldson suffered because of that. Both should be plying there trade far higher then they are, and hopefully they will get there in time.

  • 122 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM


  • 123 Hail Wor Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:51 PM


    To reinvest a get a more consistent, committed player. quite obvious really. Doing his level best to put out come and get me signals without actually stating it, hardly a way to ingratiate yourself to fans, well to me anyway. Smacks of Owen, whom if you also look at his stats in isolation was one of our better players, yet was still a mercenary that didn’t really ever want to be here and it showed, just like Gini. Can’t believe some haven’t had enough of these types yet.

  • 124 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    I think another to keep an eye on might be tom heardman. Big striker who’s worked well with Arma in the past and might be pushing for a place in the coming seasons.

  • 125 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    You think? I’m not convinced by Heardman on the brief bits I’ve seen. Haven’t seen anywhere near enough to really judge, but I can’t see him as a Prem player.

  • 126 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM

    Lil, i love watching the academy when i can. You can generally tell the ones who might make it, because they stand out against the average.
    I’m confident Arma could lead the line in a 4231, the way smaller players have in the past and present. It would mean playing a passing game, but his movement will always create space. You know yourself from experience that natural goalscorers are a rarity – quality ones – and he’s the most natural we’ve got. Just look at the way he takes his goals – totally at ease. You need to play him one way or the other because playing to his strengths – running the channels – will always result in goals. Goals that could have kept us up.

  • 127 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    I’m not criticising Arma, I like him a lot, and have since I first saw him. There is nothing I like more than a club developing their own talent, which is why I liked the ‘blueprint’ so much.

    I do think Arma will grow/develop to be very capable of leading the line, but I think grow/develop is the key aspect here. Throwing him up top on his own wouldn’t be best for his development in my opinion. I think he would be better with more physical assistance whilst he continues to learn the tricks of the trade often employed by lone strikers to counter more physical opposition.

  • 128 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    They’re realistic targets. We are going to sign Arbeloa and Agger within the next few days.

  • 129 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    Newcastle have been a woefully underperforming club for decades. I don’t think the character players of Wijnaldums youth and quality are the problem. I think the problem is far more likely to be we haven’t had enough of them, in the right positions. Under Ashley, we we’re gonna do this, and gonna do that, but never did much of anything. It’s hard to imagine our better players have felt let down and might have wanted to go. There’s a long list of very good players who might think Newcastle wasn’t as advertised on the tin. Tiote, Cisse, Collocini, Cabaye famously, Sissoko, Widjnaldum and others all might well harbour some reasonable misgivings, and wondered if they wouldn’t have done better elsewhere, and if the club hadn’t got Rafa who could find much reason at all hold to against them any for wanting away.

  • 130 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    correction – “not hard to imagine”

  • 131 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM

    Lil, very rough and ready, as in an early Carroll, but lethal in the air. Needs a lot of work, which is why i say might, because he could literally go either way. They’ve kept him on, so maybe a loan deal might be in order. Absolute handful in the box! Not consistent yet, so might covers it i reckon. Things likely to change at lower levels i reckon, so see if they can improve the other parts of his game. Nowt wrong with his napper though. 😉

  • 132 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:20 PM

    From what I’ve seen he is a long way off where Carroll was at that age. How old is he now? 19/20? At the same age Carroll had goals in the Prem, and around 30 first team appearances for us and Preston.

    He essentially got a new contract as he missed a large chunk of this year through injury. He has a lot of work to prove he is up to it I think.

  • 133 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    Lil, that’s what makes us dropping down a league might work in our favour. It gives Arma a season in the Championship to prepare him for the PL. Another years growth and another years experience, in a better team. (Got to try and find some comfort in relegation 😉 ) I’m really looking forward to seeing how Rafa wants to play him to be honest. Exciting times ahead, at long last. If anyone can, i truly believe Rafa can. And fair play to Ashley for letting him have the keys to the castle after being so badly bitten by the board system.

  • 134 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:25 PM

    You said similar about McClaren last summer! Don’t want to dredge all that up mind, but just a check on the over positivity.

    I’m excited at having Rafa, worried about handing him the keys to the castle. When has anybody ever done that for a manager? Ferguson maybe had it towards the end of his tenure, but other than that? Even Pep at Bayern and Barca didn’t have that.

    I’m still hoping that we bring capable people on board above Rafa.

  • 135 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    Every club has a board system. Most appoint competent, well qualified and experienced people to run it. Ashley got it wrong cause he didn’t do that. A coach, a scout and an ambassador? It was never kitted out to be a success. Having a board wasn’t the problem, having the wrong people on it was.

  • 136 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    I think Newcastle’s underperforming academy won’t have cost us too many top players. Good players tend to be given their shot regardless. And you do have to be very good to make the first team. I suppose the problem is more we don’t produce players that we can move on for a decent return, or that we don’t attract the quality of young player we should. I do agree, we’d be far better served getting players out on loan, if we can’t do a decent job of bringing them on ourselves. But that is a solution that still reflects poorly on the club.

  • 137 Hail Wor Ashley // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:31 PM


    A very fantastical excuse for why players can’t be arsed.

    Knew most would soften to the idea of keeping the shirkers and wantaways within a few weeks of the season finishing. As fickle as those very players.

  • 138 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    Sending players out on loan isn’t something that reflects badly on the club. Only the really exceptional don’t go on loan generally. A loan to a decent league club gives far more scope for development then the same period of time spent playing u21 football. There is a huge shift in focus and how the game is played between the two, and the loan is the bridging gap before stepping in at a higher level.

  • 139 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    As so often happens, injury struck at the wrong time. When i say ‘like’, i mean the same way, rather than as good as, if you get me. He’s got a lot to learn, but before he got knacked he was starting to develop nicely. Starting to bully in the box. Maybe he was believing he was there on merit more, but he started to impress. See how he recovers and pushes on. He’s got more chance of getting a cup game in the Championship than when we’re in the PL, with so many games to play.

  • 140 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    Lil, I just mean in a situation where we send players on loan, because our Academy isn’t capable of serving them or the club well well.

    I’m saying that a loan system to paper over the cracks of a poor academy isn’t a great solution.

  • 141 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    He may make it, I doubt it though. Players develop at different times, a few years ago a lot of Spurs fans were querying the clubs persistence with Kane after numerous loans which were never a huge success at a lower level.

    It isn’t about how well they do on loan though, it is about the experience that it gives them. Carroll got as many goals as red cards at Preston, but the experience was invaluable.

  • 142 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    A loan system wouldn’t do that though. You wouldn’t get a club with good development programs loaning players who aren’t good enough. You don’t loan academy players, you can’t loan until at least 17 anyway, but if they are good enough to go on loan at that age, academy football is of no benefit to them.

    The club had a policy of not loaning players for development purposes for a number of years and it severely hampered the development of some of our talented youngsters.

  • 143 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:41 PM

    Not so fantastical, more a perspective or argument based in human nature, which can’t be ignored surely. You don’t think the club has let down it’s better players? The 11 purples policy for a start.

  • 144 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:45 PM

    Loans are good. Should have had more out. Should have had a better Academy set up too. That’s really all I’m saying, and then we might produce more pro’s we can sell on, and young players we’ve done the right thing by and given more a career in the game.

  • 145 Bobbybee // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Lil, i’m always ready to trust a new manager until he lets me down. I thought Macca had us playing far better football than we’d seen for seasons and i stick by it. Trouble was, it only lasted to just inside the season start! What started off as pass and move, quickly degenerated to kick and chase. I’ll always give a man a chance, that’s just my nature. You can’t really compare the two men though. There’s not many can compere to Rafa though, so maybe that’s a bit unfair on my behalf. This is the best I’ve felt about a new season for a decade almost. Maybe because it’s not just a new season, but potentially a whole new era.

    By the board system, that was my point exactly. Wrong people. Didn’t and couldn’t work, despite best efforts. I just think that after such a disaster, fair play to Ashley for taking the risk. I’ve lambasted him when he’s deserved it, so only fair to give credit when it’s due.

  • 146 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    Jimmy isn’t being fickle, he has stood by this viewpoint consistently.

    Still, those that chuck in the towel surely still prove to be lacking character? Cabaye was far more impressive than any of our current midfield. Yes, he wanted away, but he did so by earning a move through performing and putting a shift in. Sissoko, Gini, Janmaat etc can hardly claim to have done that.

    Also, lesser players, who were still sold a vision that never came to fruition didn’t down tools. Colback when he joined said he was joining as he didn’t want annual relegation battles anymore. He was obviously sold more than we achieved. Not the best of players, but he can’t be accused of downing tops when the match didn’t appeal to him, unlike some.

  • 147 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:51 PM

    Who is our current board? I ask as I honestly don’t know. I haven’t heard a peep on Carr or Moncur’s demotion from the board, so is it still those 2 plus Charnley? In which case, have mistakes really been learnt, or are the club using the jubilation from Rafa’s appointment to sweep this under the rug?

    Always willing to give someone a chance (except Riviere when he joined), but Rafa in total control doesn’t seem sensible, and whoever the current board is (unless people have been appointed without fanfare) doesn’t fill me with confidence either.

  • 148 jimmysmith // Jun 4, 2016 at 10:54 PM

    Players might well think the club hasn’t given them a realistic chance of doing well, and that the fans think they can and should make up the difference in graft. If my employer took that view, I’d quickly be in touch with my Union, and start looking for a better job, it might certainly affect my work performance. It’s just a perspective I think too few consider, and that’s a big part of why I argue it.

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