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Why Thauvin’s Marseille Loan Deal Not Great For Magpies

12:19 pm, Monday, June 20th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 32 Comments

Marseille are in very poor shape with their finances at the moment and could still find it difficult to do a deal with Newcastle to have Florian Thauvin go on loan for next season in Ligue 1.

Newcastle are playing hardball – at least a little bit – in demanding that Marseille cover Thauvin’s wages in full for next season, something they didn’t do in the just completed loan spell.

It will be interesting to see if Rafa demands that Florian report for training at Newcastle next Tuesday – and it would be good to have Rafa at least talk to the young Frenchman face to face about things.

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Florian Thauvin in action against Northampton

Rafa could take a look at him in training and maybe he could use him next summer, but the news in the local papers seems to be that Rafa doesn’t want Florian at Newcastle.

If that’s the case and if Marseille cannot cover Thauvin’s wages next season then Newcastle should look to loan the player out somewhere else – maybe to an Italian club with an option to buy in the contract.

The option to buy clause should have an amount close to the massive £13M we stupidly shelled out for the player last season.

If Florian then plays a stated number of first team games – it was 12 in the case of Remy Cabella – then the deal will completed next July 1st – 2017.

Thauvin’s form picked up towards the end of the season so he has regained some of his confidence he completely lost on Tyneside.

Newcastle would do better to see if they can loan him out to a club not in such financial peril as Marseille are at the moment.

There are a couple of reports in La Provence today that are gloomy at best – and it looks like the French club will not be able to  compete much in this summer’s transfer window because of their finances.

One deal that is a done deal is the transfer of Remy Cabella from Newcastle, which La Provence say is for around €9.5M (about £7.3M).

Newcastle could play hardball with Marseille on Thauvin – after all the French club got a massive £13M off the Magpies last season, which can only be explained as an act of charity from Lee Charnley and Graham Carr.

We need to get some of that money back and get out of the charity business.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Florian Thauvin · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Remy Cabella · Transfer News and Rumours

32 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G // Jun 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Don’t want to see him anywhere near a toon top again. Massive flop IMO.

  • 2 Bobbybee // Jun 20, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    He actually had one very good game – against Northampton in the cup. In fact, he scored one and assisted three! Maybe not ready for the PL but we’re not in the PL this season. Maybe he might cut it in the Championship; maybe he won’t. We’re not going to get what we paid for him, nowts so sure, so maybe we should see how he performs before writing him off completely. Nothing to lose by taking a look.

  • 3 hibbitt // Jun 20, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    have Marseille any players / defenders we could swap !!!!

  • 4 The overrated Frenchman // Jun 20, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    Charnley and Carr should be paying his wages

  • 5 Bobbybee // Jun 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Frenchie, aye, from the bung they must have taken for signing him. 😉

  • 6 Bobbybee // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    On FFP, does anybody know how loan players affect ffp? As we’re paying his wages, does him playing for Marseille have any bearing on their ffp?

  • 7 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Didn’t young Thaurag (he he see what I did?) say a month or so ago he would like to come back to Newcastle to help get us promoted and ‘price hinself”? Maybe our resident Google expert could find that comment?

    He might find the champers the ideal springboard to get himself up and running and if he can’t do it with Rafa then he is of course doomed.

  • 8 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    “Prove himself” although it’s probably much the same thing. 🙂

  • 9 banjax // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    Maybe Thauvin’s level of skill would suit the Championship who knows. But Marseille as we all know are quite adept at squeezing high fees for their players being sold and getting them back on the rebound for a relative snip. In any other commercial transaction they would be done for mis-selling and the blame this daylight robbery comes at the door of Lee Charnley because he authorises the purchase and not Graham Carr. I’m sure things will change now that Benitez is in charge and we all look forward to seeing the quality of player he brings into the club. But unfinished business dictates that Charnley is sacked once the season starts and an experienced Director of Football takes his place.

  • 10 Mister Tuff // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    One week on Friday for the window to officially open.
    Really looking forward to see the standard of player we are going to buy in. The Chronic suggests Premier League Standard which if true is clearly the best way to go – less to do next summer when we go back up. The standard of player will be a reflection as to whether Mr Tubbs and cronies have really changed. The “signs” are good so far – without us seeing anything tangible.
    Really getting excited about which striker we are going to buy.

    Armstrong I think will benefit from another loan spell – minimum of six months – perhaps back at Coventry.

  • 11 WWSBRD // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Personally think he’d of done a job for us during the back end of last season and this coming one under Rafa but am not fussed if he stays or goes

    Am not that fussed of any of them stay or go if am entirely honest

  • 12 Toonfan8 // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Hello lads, looking forward for tonight match, I am from Slovakia and I hope it will be great match…you are favourites, but I hope, it will be a game for Hamsik, he will score a screamer tonight 🙂

  • 13 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    i thought marseilles were on the brink of a massive takeover and that money wasn’t an issue for them now.
    really does grind my gears how such incompetence in the form of carr and charnley is eternally rewarded at sjp.

  • 14 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    On the biscuit dunking Subject, the Digestive is known in the Tea trade as the reference dunking biscuit. A three second dip in a cup of medium strength tea with full milk and no sugar , is a “D1”. Rich tea are classified as a D0.5, whereas of course the SAS of dunking biscuits, the hobnob, is a D2.75. The Nice biscuit is difficult to classify, being less than D0.1 and liable to end up on your thigh in a boiling poultice. Further info at:

  • 15 Colombus // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Nicolas N’koulou is actually on a free this summer. Could he be worth looking at?

  • 16 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    I have a horrible feeling that the hiring of benitez saved Charnley from the gallows, and ensured we would be seeing more of his pudgy, rosy cheeked chortling inanity for the new season.

  • 17 Veltmann // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    Speaking of Slovakia, Vladimir Weiss attracted me.Don’t know where he plays currently but looks some player..

  • 18 Jib // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM

    Here’s a striker to think about.
    Eduardo Vargas
    You may remember him on loan from Napoli to QPR
    He has played under Rafa in Italy.
    Napoli sold him to Hoffenheim last Summer for €5 million.
    On Saturday he scored 4 as Chile knocked Mexico out of the CopaAmerica 7 – 0 !

  • 19 Toonfan8 // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Weiss currently plays in Qatar, he is good with ball at his feet, but he didn´t make impact in big leagues…Hamsik and Skrtel are leaders in Slovak team, and Hamsik is best player, he is world class midfielder, I think England is missing this type of player, he is creative and can score goals too…

  • 20 Jib // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:19 PM

    When having a pop at Charnley why do you never mention his lack of hair ?

  • 21 martoon // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:29 PM

    Tsunki @14 – I’m disappointed you never gave my favourite dunking biscuit, the custard cream, a rating. You can tell it’s a slow news day when biscuit dunking is the hot topic 🙂

  • 22 Veltmann // Jun 20, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Weiss plays in Qatar? Never guessed that.
    You are right.Hamsik is a very good player.

  • 23 cyprus // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    If we keep players like Sissoko, Gini, we’ll blow the Championship away. I know I know, we (well you) hate them and all that, but frankly, Rafa would disagree with you. And Rafa knows best. Ask Ed 🙂

    Still, if they can’t be convinced to commit to the cause, they should be allowed to go. Only people willing to give their all can stay. Then we should be ok.

  • 24 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:22 PM

    Jib, if you recall, it seems to be de rigeur for nufc directors to be hairless as well as brainless. Mr Moncur of course is the exception as he has hair though possibly not his own

  • 25 The next Mike Williamson // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Did thauvin ever play in his correct position? and did he ever get a run of consecutive games? in the championship well be dominating games and this kind of player usually flourishes.

  • 26 Mister Tuff // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    A particularly annoying trait I find on here is the new found group of self taught blog psychologists/psychiatrists who suddenly appear to know what Rafa Benitez thinks and likes to such a degree whatever they think he thinks/believes becomes a fact. Most annoying.
    I do not detract from his managerial skills/record but for Christs sake some folk are going over the top – I know we have not had a decent manager to shout about for a while – but……. .

  • 27 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Martoon, the sandwich biscuits are a more difficult classification – my favourites being the good old Cussie, the bourbon and the extremely tricky fox’s crunch creams. Not for the faint hearted 🙂

  • 28 Mister Tuff // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Top biccy – the Custard Cream!

  • 29 Tsunki // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Careful Tuffster- you want to be careful with the “haven’t started the season yet” banger – it can go off abruptly that one 😀

  • 30 cyprus // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:32 PM

    M Tuff,
    I was being ironic, if you’re referring to my comment. I still want Rafa to prove himself before I deify him. He’s got an excellent past, but he must prove himself here and now. He’s the best we’ve had for ages, but results is what counts.

  • 31 carl // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    @ 26.

    Yee hev the reet te remain silent, but yee don’t hev the ability, dyah ?

  • 32 geordie157 // Jun 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    I think Rafa will take a look at him in pre season, assess if the desire to succeed is there and if he thinks he’s good enough or can be developed then he’ll keep him.

    Think he could be a good player at this level but do question his attitude.

    One thing is for sure, I’d rather have thauvin in the match day squad over gouffran, ameobi or vuckic!

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