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This Could Be Good News On Newcastle Winger

10:52 pm, Tuesday, June 21st, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 35 Comments

Marseille are very short of money this summer and we wrote an article yesterday that any deal with Marseille would not be a particularly good one for Newcastle and that the French club may not even be able to get a loan deal for Florian Thauvin, because they may not be able to meet his wages.

Newcastle are willing to agree to a loan deal for their French winger, but only if the other club will pay 100% of the wages.

Potentially good news today that former Marseille manager Marcelo Bielsa is now the manager at Lazio and Corriere dello Sport are reporting in Italy that Lazio may now make a move for the Newcastle winger.

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Florian Thauvin while at Newcastle

And it could be that they want to sign Thauvin permanently this summer, which could turn out to be a good deal for Newcastle, since it seems Rafa Benitez is not interested in keeping the French U21 winger at the club.

An alternative to a straight transfer deal the summer is to agree a loan deal with Lazio with an option to buy at a certain price one Florian has played a certain number of games for the italian club.

With Antonio Candreva likely to leave Lazio this summer,  Thauvin could be brought in to replace the 40 times capped Italian International winger.

When Bielsa was at Marseille for 16 months from May of 2104 he seemed to get the very best out of the 23 year-old Frenchman and it seems like he thinks he can do the same thing in Italy at Lazio.

Thauvin had a disastrous time of it at Newcastle and lasted only six months before he forced a loan move back to France last January as Newcastle struggled with relegation.

If Newcastle can get the £13M back we paid Marseille last summer for Florian, that would be a very good deal for Rafa Benitez,  who can then use that money to strengthen the Newcastle squad.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Contracts · Florian Thauvin · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours




35 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jimmysmith // Jun 21, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    Good enough for Marselle and Lazio, but not Newcastle? We should take another look at him. He was feeble in a toon top, but he was also handed a shit sandwich at the time. We were a shambles. Now’s a bit different.

  • 2 Tsunki // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:22 PM

    Yo-yo – not so. I think any English fan would say they expect much less than the media demand from the national side. I don’t think any would expect us to do anything more than g dumped out, bravely, on penalties in the semis.

    Wales have done well, and I don’t think I’m alone in being pleased for them to have burst into competition so well after years of trudging wearily through a depressing and seemingly endless parade of worthless friendlies 🙂

  • 3 bettyswallocks // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:27 PM

    Tsunki….. I understand now why you sometimes feel oppressed and that you are being overlooked.
    My advice is smoke some weed and get medium.

  • 4 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:37 PM

    I got a medium once but she claimed I was from another planet and didn’t want to talk to me.

  • 5 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:38 PM

    Can you believe that? I told her she was more of a large anyway….. Harrumph….

  • 6 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:40 PM

    Many of you have been asking me “G2 where is beermonkey these days?” Well I can’t say too much about it for obvious reasons but he’s on a top secret mission for Rafa moistening some back pockets of people who don’t respect the club…..

  • 7 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:42 PM

    Do you think Flavio or whatever his name is, is suited to the Championship jimmysmith mate? I’m thinking he didn’t look too keen at all. I was surprised by his lack of pace as well. For a winger not a good thing. You may be right that he didn’t get a fair shake the first time. I would rather have Cabella back though.

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:47 PM

    Why not give players like thauvin, rivière a go, colo was crap when he played his first time in the premiership, he played well in the championship, then played well when got promoted, you never know,

  • 9 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:47 PM

    That medium told me “I see a large hazy patch, inside of a foggy area with some strange vibrating fronds. You seem to be somewhere in there singing and cavorting with a flock of hummingbirds. This is making me feel dizzy. Please leave immediately.” I mean what can of position does that put me in? I hadn’t smoked any happy weed in days…..

  • 10 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    No, we can’t accept billy goats in the Championship welshie. Rivi falls down too much and has no weight to his shot. He reminds me a lot of the first De Jong brother we had. Flavio is a bit lightweight to go against the Championship hard knocks as well. It’s more a job for manly men like Tiote.

  • 11 Munster Mag // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:53 PM

    Jimmy players have to take responsibility. The team was poor but thauvin was worse. Dreadfully slow, terrible tackler. Poor attitude. Some of us pointed these out straight away and we were told we were wrong. We werent. We were right, as a coach like rafa has confirmed. We need to sling out the underachievers and the softies, end of.

  • 12 GeordieTwo // Jun 21, 2016 at 11:58 PM

    Tend to agree Munster mate. Toss out Colo or make him a defensive coach. Sell Rivi and Sammy Ameobi as well. And let Stefan Brocolli go (I don’t like his name). Possibly Bigi as well. And have a close look at Vuckic these days. I think several in the youth teams will be weeded out yet again.

  • 13 bettyswallocks // Jun 22, 2016 at 12:02 AM

    G2……. Just because Tsunki has admitted that he’s a midget shouldn’t mean that we overdo the jokes. There has been a recent increase in dwarf suicides but it’s not a big problem.
    Also don’t ask him to lend you any money, he’s a little short at the moment.

  • 14 bettyswallocks // Jun 22, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    I wouldn’t go as far as to say that Tsunki is my all time favourite poster but he’s definitely on the shortlist.

  • 15 stuart no9 // Jun 22, 2016 at 12:32 AM

    heres one for the older lads , Hving watched N ireland v the ukraine, does anyone really understand why we got rid of Aarron Hughes? To me he was the complete player, when you look at who we brought in to do a job hughes could d in his sleep, Boumsong , Babayaro , not forgetting stephen Carr, none of them matched up to Hughes, specially at right back , and to think all those years we struggled in that position when he left for a fee only about 1M to villa and he didnt command the silly wages the other 3 did. He could have saved NU Millions . Not a great move by the toon who ever it was……. just a thought

  • 16 jimmysmith // Jun 22, 2016 at 1:25 AM

    That cut and dried huh, no concern of throwing the baby out with the bath water, and no consideration given to variable circumstances, and so not even worth a further look despite having paid 12 million for the player, and with better sides than us willing to have him. But if you say so. You seem very sure.

  • 17 Blofal // Jun 22, 2016 at 3:07 AM

    I’m a bit sick of the short-sightedness of people trashing Thauvin.

    He never wanted to come here in the first place. He was forced to.

    The first few games he played he did very well. He was even forced into a lone striker role for half a game and did well there too.

    When the club decided everyone would wear suits and when he saw the positive reaction Mbemba got for wearing a Tux, being YOUNG and naive (being paid lots does not make you less young or naive by the way) he thought he would do that too.

    Straight away the Chronicle and most of the fans lumped the frustrations of our club onto a solitary player and that was the end of that. He was at a club he didn’t want to be at – the fans didn’t like him so he wanted out and subsequently he put in a dismal performance – the fans booed him and sealed his fate.

    The tenancy of our fans to jump on players for the tiniest things is something that makes it very hard for players to gain confidence at our club.

    Luckily we now have Rafa and his opinion overrides that of the fans allowing the players to gain a bit of confidence despite the negative commentary.

    Do fans really think that berating a player is going to make them play better? Really?

  • 18 expatmag // Jun 22, 2016 at 3:28 AM

    Betty

    Some if ys think G2 overdoes more rhan just jokes on here.

  • 19 Veltmann // Jun 22, 2016 at 4:58 AM

    I must have watched someone else,that Vladimir Weiss fella isn’t kind of player I thought of ha ha.
    He isn’t that good that I tried to bang about.

    So, qui est va etre notre première signature?

  • 20 The overrated Frenchman // Jun 22, 2016 at 5:10 AM

    Blofal@17 makes a good point. Thauvin didn’t want to be here and never looked like a good fit – certainly not the type of player we desperately needed and ridiculously overpriced. Unfortunately for the player and NUFC, Mondial and Carr (and possibly Charnley) were the only winners out of the whole disgraceful transaction.

  • 21 zimtoon // Jun 22, 2016 at 5:50 AM

    only rafa will decide on thauvan not Ed or the media so untill rafa decides people should just shut up and stop speculations.

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Jun 22, 2016 at 5:51 AM

    Jail for Ashley/ last night.

    We’ve been seriously lucky, probably had the easiest group and second place rather than first.
    welshie,
    Again your lack of understanding of anything let’s you down. Where on earth in that post did I say we should have won the group, I was actually posting out that were lucky, had we have been with a team like Croatia or Belgium then things might have not been so easy.

  • 23 Ron Knee // Jun 22, 2016 at 6:31 AM

    The Football League fixtures are released at 9am today. I wonder who we’ll face in the first match.

  • 24 Average_Contents // Jun 22, 2016 at 6:55 AM

    Ron

    Any fcuker as long as it’s at home but knowing our luck it won’t be.

  • 25 Ron Knee // Jun 22, 2016 at 6:59 AM

    A_C

    The Chronic reckon it will be away!

  • 26 Tsunki // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:02 AM

    Zimtoon ok we will all just not speculate then.

    Tum te Tum, Tum te tum, dum de doo, dum dee daaa…..

  • 27 Tsunki // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:06 AM

    When we were in the champers last time I lost count of the times away fans posed for pictures outside SJP before and after a game. It was quite a day out for visiting fans to come to a sizeable premier-league style stadium. Generally visiting crowds were better natured imo. I liked the championship season.

  • 28 Ron Knee // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:12 AM

    All that SD advertising is a draw too!

  • 29 firebug666 // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:18 AM

    According to the Shields Gazette Tiote has been told that if he want’s to leave and if the price is right the club will not stand in his way.

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/newcastle-set-to-cash-in-on-cheick-tiote-1-7975454?

  • 30 carl // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:25 AM

    Tsunki
    I know exactly what you mean. There was a very clear respect shown almost an acknowledgement that we were merely passing through and away fans wanted to enjoy the experience. Also the drinking culture was a lot more respectful towards us. Also it was great just winning regularly and the atmosphere of fans towards one another. I feel like breaking into happiness happiness . Oh happy days!

  • 31 Jib // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:38 AM

    Marseilles really fancy Cheikh Tiote but can’t match his personal demands.

    It looks like a straight fight between Shanghai Shenhua (the club he visited last January ) and Al Jazira in Abu Dhabi.

    The MLS could have been a possibility but , unfortunately Cheik’s criminal record from his forged driving documents pre-empts that !

    NUFC are asking £3 million which seems like good money for a 30 year old with one year left on his contract.

  • 32 jimmysmith // Jun 22, 2016 at 7:39 AM

    Notice the very excellent Aaron Hughes still playing well for “Norn Iron”. Villa have certainly done well at our expense over the years. Hughes, Watson and Milner. What the F’s that all about?

  • 33 Jib // Jun 22, 2016 at 8:07 AM

    The wonder kid Gianluigi Donnarumma (17) this season has become 1st choice goalie of AC Milan.

    This has put Diego Lopez’ nose out of joint , he is talking about returning to Spain .

    Manuel Quilón is his agent (and Rafa’s), the ex Real Madrid goalie is now rumoured to be in talks with , Everton and Benitez.

  • 34 carl // Jun 22, 2016 at 8:11 AM

    Jimmy
    Souness sold him for £1 million a player who could play right across the back four. It’s good to see him still doing well.

  • 35 We are the mags // Jun 22, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    I personally would like to see thauvin have 1 more crack at the whip, and no i dont think he was given a proper go,
    far to much pressure.
    management have got this wrong on many different occasions with players getting rid prematurely,and ,or giving really poor players playing time over and over, i would give him pre season and till crimbo to see if he gets his act together, so yea another chance for me.




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