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This Analysis Will Decide Whether Youngster Sent Out On Loan

10:37 pm, Sunday, July 3rd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 44 Comments

Newcastle manager Rafa Benitez will take a close look at Adam Armstrong in pre-season and make a judgement as to whether he’s ready for life in the Newcastle first team squad in the Championship next season.

Newcastle will make an attempt to get promoted straight back to the Premier League next season.

The 19 year-old local lad did quite well on loan last season in League One – England’s third tier – when he scored 20 goals in 40 total appearances for Coventry.

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Adam Armstrong – at Coventry last season

Coventry manager Tony Mowbray not surprisingly wants Adam back at Coventry next season and in an interview last week he gave a good analysis of how Rafa will decide whether Adam is ready or not for the Newcastle first team squad this coming season.

This is what Tony had to say:

“Only Rafa will decide whether he lets him go to another team in the Championship who he doesn’t see as a threat to Newcastle United, or will he send him back to us because it was a good experience.”

“Adam quite liked it and his agent and parents are happy with him coming here because they know he’ll get looked after, and off we go again.”

“But we have to wait for Newcastle. They know our interest, as they will from 15 or 20 teams interested in him, which is great for them and great for Adam.”

“It’s going to be Rafa’s decision but if I was Rafa Benitez, why on earth wouldn’t you start pre-season with Adam Armstrong training with them.” 

“He’s his player, he pays his salary so why wouldn’t he watch him for a week or two in training and see what he does.”

“See how he integrates into the group; see if he’s a shy little kid or come back a man and banging in goals in training.”

“After he’s done that he’ll make a decision.”

“If his decision is he’s got some talent but is probably a bit young and needs more stick-on players and will spend £8M on a center-forward from Spain –  then Adam might go out again.”

We need goals next season and we are hoping the England U19 International can breakthrough to the first team under Rafa Benitez.

But the Spanish manager will know what’s best for the teenager and if it means going out on loan again – then so be it.

We have very high hopes of what Adam can achieve at Newcastle in the coming seasons.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Adam Armstrong · Championship · England News · Loan Moves · Newcastle News

44 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jimmysmith // Jul 3, 2016 at 10:43 PM

    Won’t Armstrong need to get into the team ahead of all but one of Mitrovic, Perez, Cisse. Gayle, Sissoko, De Jong and Widjnaldum. He might be good, but at only 19, I think he’ll need to be going some just to win place in the squad.

  • 2 Harley // Jul 3, 2016 at 10:44 PM

    I don’t think there’s a huge difference between the championship and league 1. If he got 20 goals there he could get that with us. I’d love to see him given a chance to see if he can do it.

  • 3 Rafa Revolution // Jul 3, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    Think he needs to play now

  • 4 lesh // Jul 3, 2016 at 11:16 PM


    Isn’t it likely that Cisse, Sissoko, Gini and de Jong’ll be gone by August?

  • 5 jimmysmith // Jul 3, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    Lesh, I’m not at all sure if it is likely any of them will be sold, as they are under contract. It looks just as likely to me that Newcastle might just carry on their strengthening and reshaping as best they can as if they hadn’t been relegated at all. Which strikes me as pretty sound reasoning. I think if anyone does go, it’ll be for good money, and only then does Arma have a realistic chance of figuring.

  • 6 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 4, 2016 at 12:38 AM

    Armstrong won’t be playing first team football for us, if he does he will get sussed out after about 10 or 15 game. Why not make him 3rd choice striker, championship has alot of games, he will get 10 or 15 games by end of season. That’s alot of experience.

  • 7 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 4, 2016 at 1:10 AM

    I do hope we get another £8mill striker from Spain, just like Xisco..

  • 8 expatmag // Jul 4, 2016 at 1:37 AM

    Defence is the main oriority at present. We are strong across all other areas of the team with our current squad but emwe need to replace Taylor and Coloccini, a good right back and a hslf decent left back.

    Once done, then we can look at who to let go.

    Dont forget…..we need a squad. Its a long season so those players who were not considered good enough for the premiership , may well be good enough as squad players in the championship. I am talking about the likes of Gouffran Riviere Bigi and Ameobi.

  • 9 Lindisfarne // Jul 4, 2016 at 6:33 AM

    Armstrong would definitely benefit from a loan to a Spanish club.

  • 10 G // Jul 4, 2016 at 6:41 AM

    I suppose like most fans, I’m not qualified to judge of Armstrong is ready. He certainly looks the part to me. As long as Rafa at least looks at him as an option, them I’m more than happy for him to play for us or go on loan.

  • 11 martoon // Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM

    At 19 he should be starting to breakthrough into a Championship squad. It’s a long hard season we’ll be able to use him at some point.

  • 12 expatmag // Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM

    With the strength in depth we have, why not send him out to a lower level prrmiership team (not palace or the mackems of course) for half a season till January then bring him back for the run in

  • 13 Jib // Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM

    Newcastle midfielder Sissoko started the game against Icland and played for the entire 90 minutes.

    The 26-year-old took two shots, had a pass accuracy of 92%, created three chances, put in two crosses, attempted six dribbles, won 50% of his tackles, and made two interceptions, made one clearance and one block.

    Hardly earth-shattering

    W need him to play better against Germany to gat a decnt fee for him

  • 14 expatmag // Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM

    Offer Aemstrong on loan, Ameobi and Krul to Boro for Ayala

  • 15 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM

    No idea why this virtually identical article keeps popping up everywhere. I’ll be amazed if Rafa sends him out again.
    @G, unlike most fans, I spent his Academy days and U21 days watching the kid progress and he’s a goal machine. So many put him down who’ve never even watched his highlights, let alone watched dozens and dozens of live games. I’m 58 and the last time I was this excited about a prospect was Gazza. Totally different types of players, but the effect is the same – he gets you off your seat. Scores equally with both feet – who does that in our squad? Blistering first 10-15 yards, which gives him time to pick a pass or shot – who have we got who can do that? I have confidence that – providing he’s fit – he’ll impress Rafa enough to keep him. Remember, he scored those 20 goals for a team that was literally cobbled together with youth loanies and players ending their career. Put him in our team and he’ll score for fun, with the chances he’ll get. He’s such a natural he doesn’t even think, he just does. Rafa hasn’t seen him play yet, but if he’s checked out his vids, from Academy, U21’s, England youth – where he’s scored almost a goal a game – and Coventry, he’ll have an idea just how much potential this kid has and how good he already is. This is his time mate. The Championship is ideal for him this season and I’ll be surprised if he lets him out on loan again. If we’d had his goals last season, bearing in mind the sitters we missed, we wouldn’t be in this position now.

  • 16 Jib // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM

    Barrie McAuliffe must be the best agent ever.
    He advised Hal Robson Kanu not to renew his contract with Reading last month with the Euros approaching.
    The 27 year-old has backed himself and will end up very wealthy.

  • 17 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:26 AM


    Agree with everything you said with your comment at number 8, was thinking we only need to sign 2 defenders, a CB and a RB.

    Janmaat if he stays and a new right back
    Lascelles, mbemba, dummett and a new CB
    Haidara and Mbabu

    I’m sure last season people were talking that they could see dummett playing as CB in the future, im sure he played there in some games last season and played well, just a thought anyway.

  • 18 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM

    I hope he does get his chance here because that would mean Rafa has noticed his ability and thinks he could be ready for our team, and that can only be a positive.

    The only question is whether he would be up front by himself – which would then limit Mitro and Gayle, unless he plays Gayle a bit wider. Unless he played him just off Mitro and Gayle.

    It’s up to Rafa, I guess.

  • 19 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM

    Defenders to come in and no one leaves then that’s pretty much done in the transfer window, hopefully we can finish our business this week.

  • 20 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM

    would be nice to see de Jong play, would love for him to stay, his vision on the pitch is unbelievable.

  • 21 Jib // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM

    Don’t forget the window doesn’t close until September 1st
    We have 5 league games and the 2nd round of the League cup before then !
    Surprises can happen !

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    What does SDJ actually do, what was his position for Ajax, where could he first in to our team. Would anyone even know he’d been here if he slipped quietly through the door and left this summer.

  • 23 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:57 AM


    If he didn’t have a serious injury he would have played all season, he’s the one who’s was meant to replace cabaye, playmaker role, so to say where he plays and what he does and also would any one notice if he slipped through door that’s a bit unfair to the player.

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:57 AM

    It’s so you can write your virtually identical post on how good he is 😉

  • 25 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:58 AM

    rather his passing and vision than relying on shelvey, 0-60 in 4 weeks.

  • 26 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    LR32, that just makes it all the better imo. 😉 The more competition the better each player has to be just to get picked. If Arma keeps out other players then it’s simply because he’s banging them in. Likewise the other way round. If the kid ain’t playing, then it’s because somebody else is on fire. We can’t lose really. Personally I would’ve kept Arma last season and the goal chances we repeatedly blew only supports that. We missed dozens of sitters he would’ve buried. With the competition for places up front, players will have to do the biz or face being benched. Either way, Newcastle win.

  • 27 Jib // Jul 4, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    ST holder renewal deadline now extended until this coming Friday, 08.07.2016
    They musn’t be selling quite as fast as reported !

  • 28 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    Infact he didn’t have one serious injury, the poor sod had 2or3 in one season.

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:02 AM

    Welshie me auld mucka,
    Not unfair at all, I wasn’t sure of where he can fit in to the team or who’s place he would take, can’t see how he’d Wirksworth in any of the teams we’ve put out. It’s because of his injury record that nobody would notice his leaving. But we knew that and that’s why no other clubs came in for him, another red or black player for the casino loving Mike Ashley.

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:04 AM


  • 31 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    Jail, when it comes to Arma, my days of watching our academy and U21’s at least gives me the advantage of knowing what I’m talking about. I was replying to G as it happens. Anyway, you’re hardly the one to pick me up on that, when you started virtually every single post on here with ‘Ashley out’ for years. In case you’d failed to notice, the thread is about Arma after all.

  • 32 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM


    Do you think Gini and Sissoko will still be here or do you see them leaving, I think they be here don’t think anyone will spend big money on them.

  • 33 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    Would love to see Armstrong bang in 20 goals this season in the championship.

  • 34 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    Bobby, I really hope he does play well and contribute. Other players I’ve wanted to play in the past haven’t had as much time on the pitch as I would’ve liked due to one thing or another.

    Rafa likes to use his squad well, getting good minutes out of them on rotation now and then rather than burning them out Pardew style, so he may well get a decent chance. Last year’s experience will have done him the world of good, especially for his confidence and belief.

  • 35 jimmysmith // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:14 AM

    He plays as a number ten certainly, although I’m not sure where else he could fit in, and he might well be thought of as only 3rd choice in that role. The other two are more versatile, so

    ……..Sissoko………..De Jong………..Widjnaldum

    is one way Rafa might set us up to include him, and would surely murder Championship opposition.

  • 36 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM

    Welshie, get your money on it marra. I know I will. 😉 Providing Rafa decides to keep him – which i expect he will – he’ll get enough chances to score 20 again this season. It’s his finishing that stands him out from the crowd. Both feet from any distance. Can’t wait to see him banging em in for the Toon. 😉

  • 37 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    Talking of De Jong, well it’s his brother, 13 million, i don’t think so.

    Soccer Sauce – ?@soccer_sauce

    Breaking: West Ham in talks with #PSV for Luuk de Jong. Striker has scored 46 goals in last 2 seasons. £13m fee mentioned #WHUFC #COYI
    12:30 am – 4 Jul 2016

  • 38 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    Jimmy, his best position is and always has been out and out striker. He specialises in running the channels whete his pace leaves defenders flat. He played No9 for the Academy, U21’s, England youth and for Coventry. He’s a striker and he’s lethal.

  • 39 Jib // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    When de Jong played in a good Ajax side he played nearly 170 game with nearly 60 goals which is canny for a no.10.

    Plus 8 goals in forty odd Euro cup ties.

    He deserves sympathy for his injury nightmare not slagging off.

  • 40 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM


    You can just see Matt Ritchie supplying the crosses for him, just been watching Ritchie on you tube, he’s got one hell of a left foot on him, a bit like Laurent Robert, can cross, pass, shoot, score, pretty accurate with free kicks and corners, is there anything this player can’t do.

  • 41 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    Well said jib, thought jails comment was a bit unfair but that’s his opinion.

  • 42 welshgeordie9 // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    Just looking back at soccer sauce they claim Everton are interested in Gini, anyone from Everton you lot would like, as we are short of defenders i go for Coleman and Baines, that’s a fair swap.

    Ha ha ha

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:27 AM

    Would like to see the back of both of them, we can’t have players like Sissoko in the dressing room telling anyone who’ll listen that he should be playing in the CL.Unless Rafa has assurances he’ll knuckle down then get rid.

  • 44 Bobbybee // Jul 4, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    LR32, I think this is one kid who’ll get plenty of game time. As you say, Rafa likes to rotate players so all the forwards will get a game and a chance to prove themselves. Without even a hint of arrogance, his confidence has never been in question – he appears very level headed and only cares about playing football, but 20 goals last season in a very average side must have given him all the belief he needs, as you rightly point out. I just hope he’s fit for pre season, having heard nothing further about this thigh injury he picked up. If he is, I have every confidence he’ll impress the gaffer. 😉

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