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Benitez Could Negotiate Player Exchange Deal For Wijnaldum

7:25 pm, Monday, July 18th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 73 Comments

Rafa Benitez could potentially do a deal with Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp for a player exchange deal for Gini Wijnaldum with cool cash as well as some players going to Newcastle in exchange for the 25 year-old Dutch International.

We had mentioned earlier today that Lucas Leiva could potentially end up at Newcastle, although there is news that he could be linked with a move to Galatasaray, who are reported ready to swoop for the 29 year-old defensive midfielder.

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29 year-old Brazilian Lucas Leiva

Rafa brought Lucas to Liverpool in 2007 when he was the manager there.

The other player we could be linked with in a part exchange deal is Jon Flanagan, the 23 year-old full-back.

Flanagan was injured for the first half of last season, but came back in December and then found his opportunities in the first team limited.

He has been compared with former Brazilian captain and full-back Cafu, because of his speed, strength and determination on the ball and Cafu himself has said Jon “has everything required to be one of the best full-backs in the world”.

Flanagan has had a number of injuries since making his debt for his home town club in the Premier League against Manchester City at Anfield on 11th April 2011, when he was just 18.

There are also younger players Rafa could be interested in from the Reds and they include 18 year-old  Ovie Ejaria and 17 year-old Trent Alexander-Arnold, both very good midfielders but the chances of getting them from Jurgen Klopp as part of a deal seems slim at best.

But Newcastle need good players this summer and getting them in part exchange deals for Gini Wijnaldum and maybe for Moussa Sissoko, after he returns next week from his summer break, could be a good way of further strengthening the Newcastle squad.

What do you think?

Comments welcome – but please respect the views of others and don’t attack other readers simply because of their different opinions – the world would be a dull place if we all had the same views.



Tags: Georginio Wijnaldum · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




73 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rotonda heights // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    would rather just have the cash. lucas is past his best and flanagan isn’t that good

  • 2 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    Springy,

    Hopefully they do go and then replaced with better players. I’d presume De Jong is on a decent wage with us, it could prove difficult to find a club willing to take the risk on him aye. Im sure there was some interest in him a couple of weeks back but I cannot remember which club it was.

    Bobby,

    What a passionate post. Lets hope your right. Would you keep him here even though he may not get the game time to build on his progress last year? Championship is his next test I think but I don’t want to see him banging goals in for a club and chasing us. It’s always a possibility.

  • 3 firebug666 // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    Rotonda

    I agree marra 100%

    I read and posted earlier today, that Newcastle are remaining calm over the interest in Wini, and will want offers in excess of £27 million.

  • 4 scout // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    Flanagan not that good? We have Dummett ffs.
    He’s streets ahead of him.

  • 5 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    Think I’d rather see them take the cash and reinvest. Don’t really know much about the players linked there.

  • 6 funlovingexpress // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    If we are to do a player exchange then at least get a decent one like Joe Allen.

  • 7 funlovingexpress // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM

    Give us 12 million and Allen and it will be a canny bit of business

  • 8 Belfast // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:45 PM

    Flanagan: Yes
    Lucas: No

  • 9 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:46 PM

    Flannagan is no better than Dummet. As for Lucas, no way.

  • 10 Jib // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:48 PM

    Rafa lives in West Kirby so he has fantastic links at Liberpool football club !
    What !!!!
    The club doesn’t even have the same owners !!!!!
    Our Toon
    yer a pilloch

  • 11 Jib // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    Liverpool even

  • 12 JDdubai // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    A fit Flanagan would be worth having, always good to have someone who can play both full back positions too. However given our past/current experiences with injury prone players, especailly in defence, it would probably be better to just take the cash if possible.

    Lucas maybe as a replacement for Tiote if he goes, would do for a season or 2 maybe?

  • 13 lesh // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    Hang on a sec Ed

    Rafa doesn’t particularly want to sell Wijnalduum but as the lad probably wants away and Liverpool reportedly want him, then Rafa’s in a position to dig in over the player(s) he wants as part of any deal.

    If Liverpool or any other club that wants him, then it becomes a case of if they really want him, then they pay what’s asked in cash plus a permanent move for the player of Rafa’s choice as part of any deal.

  • 14 magicmac // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM

    I think they should try and get Danny Ings from Liverpool in part exchange, he has experience of the championship and premier league with Burnley, and is a very good striker, and scored a lot of goals in the championship and premier league with Burnley, in my humble view its an no brainer, and other Newcastle fans agree? HWTL.

  • 15 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    toon prodigy
    thats the thing,sdj wont be someone clubs are looking at….been injured constantly and a big wage,as well as aclub wanting him you have to think they may offer nowhere near what he’s on now….unless you cut him loose and take the hit…theres not much chnce of him leaving till he’s been fit for a while and played games.

  • 16 Bobbybee // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:52 PM

    Toon prodigy. I’m pleased you can see the difference between passion and anger – others stuggle with it. Yes, I’d love him to stay because once 100% fit he wouldn’t be held back, he’d be playing. Right now, he hasn’t played since getting injured playing for England, so he needs time. Once back to full fitness I don’t see who would keep him out, so he would get chance to progress on last season. This time in the Championship. I’d love him to fight for his place here because I believe he’d prove himself and get games. You have to keep players moving forward and that means if he’s loaned it’s to a rival, which might haunt us later. I just want him to be given a chance. Not for me, but for the Toon, because that’s what really matters.

  • 17 tynesidetommo // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:53 PM

    Naturally I respect Ed’s view but this is ridiculous potentially

  • 18 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 7:58 PM

    bobby
    just in case there was confusion before,i dont rate rivie more then arma,but i said rivie may stay due to fact him and mitro are similar players in size and play,so i believe unless we sign a another player of similar presence i expect rivie to stay as a mitro back up as it were….not sure if you meaning me in your earlier comment,if not no worries.

  • 19 nufc 11 // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    Wtf? Either Joe Allen or Danny ings wouldn’t take anything less.

  • 20 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    dont want either of the players mentioned in the liverpool deal,lucas was never anything special,rather thought he was lucky to get the games he did,and we have a load of c/m now,and flanagan is’nt he another perma-crock,myt be wrong but we dont need these two players.

  • 21 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:06 PM

    was’nt joe allen about sign for swansea during the euro’s?….thought i heard a commentator say that.

  • 22 Nufc-83 // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:07 PM

    Jib he doesn’t live in West kirby so stop making yourself look like an idiot (probably too late for that).

    Magic mac Ings would be great but apparently Klopp rates him highly and he is well liked at the club. He has looked very sharp in pre season already so there’s no chance he is leaving I’m afraid.

  • 23 Belfast // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    It actually sounds like it’s been made up to be honest.

    Surely they would have just offered us Ibe + cash when we were apparently interested?

  • 24 jazzyp // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:10 PM

    Springy
    Having Rivi as a back up to Mitro is one of the problems that have scurged the club.
    Rivi is simply not good enough mate and never has been.we wasted was it 6 mill on a winger and tried to convert him into a Cf…. Which clearly hasn’t worked.
    I can’t see Rafa making the same mistakes as previous managers before him.

  • 25 Bobbybee // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:11 PM

    Springy, behave yersen marra, you’re far more sensible to rate Rivierre over Arma! 😉

  • 26 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    Springy,

    Your reet aye. It could prove difficult to offload him. If we get the opportunity though this window I’d move him on sooner rather than later. It’s a shame aswell because he does have a good footballing brain if he can get upto speed and stay fit. His luck is shocking though.

    Bobby,

    Nout would please me more than to see a local lad do well. As you say though, price tags will be given priority right now over him. He seems a confident lad like, he has stated if he gets the chance he will take it. If he stays we will have to wait until some injuries occur or maybe he gets a shot off the bench for the last 20 mins. I get the feeling Perez is before him though. It’s a tough one because we are playing in the Chamionship this season. I think if he blew that league up with another club and we struggled a bit up top we’d look a bit daft haha. Great for him personally and the future of NUFC.

  • 27 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM

    jazzyp
    im just saying as it stands now,i would like another striker to replace rivie,but the fact is,it has’nt yet…and he is the closest in physique to mitro….i maybe proved wrong and he’s sold tomorrow but i think rafa likes the idea of two for every position,similar players or positions and he’s it for now.

  • 28 SPRINGY // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    bobby
    not many times in my life i’ve been called sensible…but where arma and rivie are concerned….it was a must!lol

  • 29 jazzyp // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    Springy
    I hope pal that Rafa see’s what we have all seen in the stands since Rivi has been at the club…. And that he’s been another of Carrs failures.
    A lot of chatter on Diafro from West Ham.A very similar player to Gayle ??
    Who knows pal…I just hope we don’t make the same mistakes of seasons gone by

  • 30 Bobbybee // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    Toon prodigy, right now, due to circumstances, they-re all ahead of Arma, so it’s for Arma to show them how wrong they are. Perez had a good first season, but last season I thought he was very poor. Strikers are all about goals. Arma scores equally as well with either feet and that puts him ahead of the others for a start. One on ones he’s lethal. He can score from 20, 40, 50 yards even. His main strength though is running the channels. His first 15 yards are electric, which leaves defenders trailing, and his finishing is sublime. He is confident because he knows that given a chance he will take it with both hands, yet he’s very level headed. Once he’s in the team, watch the goals flow. 😉 And size means nothing. Plenty of upper body strength and difficult to shift off the ball.

  • 31 Yo-yo // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Jib

    For most of last season I and the entire blog knew that while you were banging on endlessly about Tufty and his team being world class coaches etc. etc.; with a stream of badly argued posts that we will never go down; and whinging on about anybody who thought differently being negative… that you were hopelessly and laughably wrong every time you pressed the submit button.
    Some things just don’t change.
    Know nowt ? It’s your stock childish response.
    I’m glad I don’t know what you know about football that is for sure.

  • 32 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    Bobby,

    Well if he scores goals he will have to be left in the team. My only concern is will he be given this chance this season. If not then he has to go out on loan I think. No good giving him 5 minutes here and there. What about the Scottish Prem? Could he go there for 6 months? Just a thought. Pretty simular level to the championship maybe.

  • 33 hibbitt // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:56 PM

    i would take Joe Allen and Jon Flanagan for Gini Wijnaldum
    but it won’t happen

    if we are offered £25m take it the kid does not want to play for us sell him no matter how good or bad he is
    just remember he does not want to be here
    thats enough of a reason

  • 34 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    Very harsh . The squad last season was unbalanced to the point that it was incapable of performing as anticipated by many on here. In hindsight, the early successes of Carr were a disaster in the long term. He gained more and more influence and his successful signings became more infrequent. Without Cabaye, Ba, and the earlyf Tiote and Cisse the “model” would have been ditched a long time ago.The squad isn’t just not performing at Newcastle though, it’s unbalanced to the point it’s virtually incapable of performing as required. In hindsight, the early successes of Graham Carr were a disaster for the club in the long term as he gained more and more influence and his successful signings became more and more infrequent. Perhaps without Cabaye, Ba, and the early form of Tiote and Cisse he would have been binned a long time ago. Carr is clearly being directed and monitored by Benitez but I wonder if he has had any significant influence in the earlier scouting of players now signed. Certainly having watched Ritchie and Gayle a few times they always looked good to try to sign.
    Was Carr watching the Domestic market I suspect not because we told the dabs forum we wouldn’t be relegated.

  • 35 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 8:58 PM

    The only swap deal I’d accept is Coutinhio for Curtis Good. Seems about as plausible as swapping Wijnaldum for Flannagan

  • 36 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    Lee Clark could take him to Kilmarnock for 6 months maybe.

  • 37 hibbitt // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    Toon-Prodigy
    6 months in La Liga would do him the world of good

  • 38 Bobbybee // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    TP, wherever he goes, or stays, he’ll score goals. As a fan, i think we’d be crazy to let him go, fit or not. I reckon if Rafa gets to see what he can do in person, he’ll keep him on. It’s our loss if he doesn’t. Anyway, got a massive form to fill in so maybe speak later. 😉

  • 39 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Hibbit,

    Benitez should know some decent clubs over there for him.

    Bobby,

    Catch ya later.

  • 40 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:16 PM

    Yo-yo
    You had a good Euro championship with your heart ruling your head early doors. Most of us didn’t think Wales would make the semi Final stage but as a fan you wanted to believe it could happen. As a fan we often play the game of “the wish promoting the thought”. Personally I thought after the Chelsea game that we were probably down.

  • 41 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:19 PM

    Apparantly we are battling with Celtic for Scott Sinclair. I’d take him for the reported 2 million Villa want.

  • 42 G // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:21 PM

    Scott Sinclair rumour was in the Sunday rags, not sure I believe that one. If the fee is 2m tho, I would deffo give it a tickle.

  • 43 goommy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    Cash only!! 27M$$$$$.

    Actually, I’m glad if Gini stay with us. He will be one of our most valuable player when we’re back to PRM.

  • 44 hibbitt // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    Toon-Prodigy

    just what i was thinking if he has to go out on loan send him to a club that will improve him not one to just go through the motions
    there’s no doubt the Arma has talent but he is nowhere near the finished article no matter what Bobby says

  • 45 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:25 PM

    I want to keep Janmaat, Gini and Moussa for the same reason. We wouldn’t need to rebuild for the Premier League.

  • 46 hibbitt // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:28 PM

    2 out of that 3 don’t want to be here what’s the point of keeping them

  • 47 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    G,

    He certaintly fits into what Rafa is looking for. Championship and Premier League experience. 2 mil is a steal I think. Surely that price tag is wrong?

    Hibbit,

    Aye, he really needs to play at a better level than league 1. He also needs to start though where ever he goes.

  • 48 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    Did Saido Berahino want to stay at WBA?

  • 49 G // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM

    @47 Apparently his confidence is gone? Rafa may just be able to get his mojo back?

  • 50 Sazzer // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    I would try with Lazar Markovic.

  • 51 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    On Armstrong why not keep him until January and see how he performs with us. He would surely benefit from the Benitez experience. There will be no number of clubs still interested in him in January should we want him to go out on loan. It’s just unfortunate that he’s been injured.

  • 52 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    When Wolves went down they kept some of their “star” players. Those players ended up falling out with the club and being sent to train with the reserves, consequently losing their value and losing the interest of any clubs that once admired them. They ended up sticking out their contracts and bleeding Wolves dry.
    Not saying that will happen with our lot but it’s something that will be taken into consideration when Charnley decides whether to keep them or sell them

  • 53 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    G,

    He has had a bit of a fall from grace really like. Villa were shocking last season, as were us, but playing at that club would be enough to knock the stuffing out of you no doubt about it.

    They didn’t even invest in January or seem to want to stay in the league. Rafa could sort him out aye. Get him in! I’d choose the Toon over Celtic. Obviously a little biased.

  • 54 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    Seems to be a lot of people thinking that Rafa is going to make all our players and any potential recruits twice as good as they have been at any point before. I might be wrong but don’t really remember Rafa doing that anywhere, he’s built some good teams but always been a bit of a chequebook manager. It’s not like he’s moneyballed it anywhere and turned a bunch of no hopers into title winners.

  • 55 hibbitt // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    carl

    re… Saido Berahino
    and just look how he played
    not a good example

  • 56 G // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    @54, dont remember suggesting that, I do believe he will get the players at his disposal playing as a team with some motivation. The end of last season should suffice as proof?

  • 57 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:56 PM

    G, was just a general comment, not aimed at anyone. I think some people only remember the last day thrashing of Spurs, if we hadn’t have put in such an abject performance the week before against already relegated Villa, it might have meant something.

  • 58 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:57 PM

    Wolves were relegated in 2011-2012. The market has changed dramatically in recent seasons. The WBA player I mentioned is reported as doing the same thing and letting his contract rundown. WBA turned down £23 m for him in January. Clubs have the option but players values will only increase in the PL because there is a lot of money slushing around. Keeping quality will save us buying into a sellers market next season.

  • 59 G // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:58 PM

    Mate, the damage was already done, Rafa at least managed to get them grafting, given the state of his predecessors thats a miracle in itself.

  • 60 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 9:59 PM

    Sutty,

    Players seem to buzz off him since he has joined. I won’t be surprised if they all up their games a bit this season. Quite looking forward to it.

    He won’t be able to create miracles but there has certainly been a lift and some self belief installed. Having Rafa wanting to sign you must give you confidence. I think he is just the person to sort out Sinclair. It’s a good move for him if true, quick route back into the Premier League also hopefully. I’d take him.

  • 61 jimmysmith // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM

    Selling our better players is certainly very risky. The only up sides being the money to reinvest now and once promoted, and the fact we have Rafa doing the buying and selling.

    Swapping Sissoko, Janmaat, Krul and Widjnaldum for players of the calibre of players we’ve managed to sign so far probably reduces our chances of promotion from, for the sake of argument, 90 to 70%, and if we don’t get promoted, what odds on Benitez being around for a second Championship campaign.

  • 62 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    Carl, fine but doesn’t work if we don’t get promoted. There’s no guarantee, we essentially have the same squad that was bloody awful for most of last season and has failed spectacularly when we have had to play lower league opposition in cups. This time last year some people had us nailed on for Europe and we got humiliated up and down the country. We certainly shouldn’t fall into complacency that we are going to walk the championship or even definitely make the play offs, anything can happen.

  • 63 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:06 PM

    Jimmy, agree with maths. Only problem is if any of them refuse to play. I haven’t actually seen any comments directly or indirectly from Wini, Janmaat etc. That they want to go, it’s only Sissoko as far as I know

  • 64 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:07 PM

    Saido Berahino Is in demand and you could use the argument that he didn’t perform because his style doesn’t fit the Pulis style of play. An argument often used pre Benitez. It’s a case of if the price is right.
    It’s a good example because he’s young and in demand. If we were in the PL we could well have gone back in for him. Form is temporary clSs is permanent.

  • 65 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    TP, agree they do and as I said on Saturday looking a much better pre-season already that the McPardew shambles.

  • 66 jimmysmith // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    If Newcastle had had a manager of Rafa’s calibre from the beginning of last season, then Europe would have been far more likely than relegation. This group is about as good and over 40 odd game should barring great misfortune finish comfortably in the promotion places.

    I agree with those that don’t want to see any more out goings, but when Liverpool, Real Madrid, and Arsenal come knocking it’s hard in good conscience to stand in a players way, particularly Sissoko, who despite the animosity, has endured a lot of frustration and disappointment, just like the rest of us, in his 3 and a half seasons at Newcastle.

  • 67 SUTTY1978 // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    Carl, I don’t get your point, are you saying Berahino is worth more than £23m as they kept hold of him? I think they’d be lucky to get £10m now, in which case they would surely have been better off selling him?

  • 68 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:14 PM

    What im most pleased about is that he is being aloud to correct the balance within the squad. It’s been a problem for a long time now because of the silly policies that were in place.

  • 69 jimmysmith // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:21 PM

    That’s true, if Sissoko goes, and Widjnaldum stays, and the replacement is in the position we need, then you can play Widjnaldum centrally in place of Sissoko, and what you’ve lost in quality, might well be recovered in balance, but selling both can not addressed any near as effectively by simply improving the balance of the squad.

  • 70 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    Jimmy,

    Im not so sure. There was a serious lack of leadership throughout the squad and our injuries were horrendous as usual. CB and Striker was not sanctioned which we needed in January. I was happy we spent but in hindsight it cost us. I don’t think we would of been relegated but I doubt we would of got into a euro spot with the problems running through the club. The whole club was rotten right through to the younger sides.

    They are on the mend now though, im cautiously optimistic for this and next season as long as he is backed fully. He does seem to have full say over who he wants and needs.

  • 71 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    Sutty
    If you constantly sell your best players you won’t improve. We of all clubs have witnessed that going back post Keegan and Robson.
    The Benitez era in my view will not be renowned for complacency which is why we’ve bought players with Championship experience. Your point about failure last season being replicated it was an unbalanced small squad that leaked goals and didn’t score enough goals. This is being addressed in a professional say not seen since our 5 the placed finish in the PL.

    Basic economics suggest that we will pay a lot more for quality this time next year why not do all you can to retain our better players now.
    That’s what Keegan did he built the squad so that when we were promoted to the top division we had a fully functioning team that hit the ground running. Though I believe we lost the first game at Home to Spurs 1-0 we still finished second in the Premier League.
    Maybe not a blueprint for success today given massive financial disparity between clubs but a good approach under Benitez. It ain’t over until it’s over- keep the faith. It’s hard to believe we were relegated but I remain optimistic going forward.

  • 72 carl // Jul 18, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    Sutty
    Palace have reportedly bid £ 22 million.

  • 73 Owldman // Jul 19, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Make them pay cash up front dont want any of Liverpools cast offs,




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