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England Crash Out In Surprise Loss To Italy

5:00 pm, Thursday, July 21st, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 76 Comments

The England U-19 side crashed out of the European U-19 Championships today when they lost 2-1 to Italy in the semi-finals after winning all three of their group A games.

Both of the Italy goals came from left-back Federico Dimarco and from set-pieces.

His first came from a penalty in the 27th minute after Fikayo Tomori fouled Andrea Favilli and his second came in the second half after 60 minutes va a free kick.

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Freddie Woodman – England U-19 goalkeeper

An Alberto Picchi own-goal in the 85th minute briefly gave the England side some hope, but it was not to be and Italy advanced to the final.

Italy will now play Portugal or France in the final with their semi-final kicking off at 5:00 pm German time.

England coach Aidy Boothroyd believes his side will learn some valuable lessons from their defeat to Italy today:

“Obviously we’re very disappointed, we think that’s as well as we’ve played in the tournament so far.”

“When you work with development teams, it’s very easy to focus on just results but some of the performances today I thought were excellent.”

“But it’s goals that win games and goals that change games and unfortunately we lost to a very organised and very strong Italian team.”

“I hope and believe today will be a really good lesson for our players because of the hurt that losing a semi-final is – and also because it’s a situation that we can really learn a lot from.”

Newcastle goalkeeper Freddie Woodman played every minute of the four games for England, but the team couldn’t repeat their European U-17 Championship win against Germany two years ago.

Local lad Adam Armstrong was injured when the finals began and was therefore not part of the England squad.

England U-19s: 1 Freddie Woodman (Newcastle United); 2 Jonjoe Kenny (Everton), 16 Reece Oxford (West Ham United), 15 Fikayi Tomori (Chelsea), 12 Kyle Walker-Peters (Tottenham Hotspur); 8 Josh Onomah (Tottenham Hotspur), 4 Jordan Rossiter (Glasgow Rangers) (c); 18 Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Arsenal); 9 Dominic Solanke (Chelsea), 7 Tammy Abraham (Chelsea), 11 Izzy Brown (Chelsea).

Substitutes: 10 Sheyi Ojo (Liverpool) for Abraham 58

Tags: Adam Armstrong · England News · European Competition · Freddie Woodman · Newcastle News · Newcastle U21 · Newcastle Youth

76 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Spoof // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:07 PM


    he may be a bit slow but I agree with you as I can’t understand why he is getting knocked, I can understand concerns about his lack of pace due to Rafa preferring to play a high line at the back but what Rafa certainly doesn’t lack is tactical nouse, I’m sure he will have a set up which won’t allow his lack of pace to be a severe problem, how long have we been begging for a big strong commanding defender to play alongside Colo which never happened and now that we have both Lascellas and Hanley who would have been ideal for Colo we have some who aren’t that happy about it, but never mind we are all entitled to our views !

  • 2 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    What a level headed lad Woody is. . Another year out on loan and then he might be ready to challenge for a first team spot – if we can hang on to him.
    Listening to Durham on talksport telling us how well sunlun played last season and what a job hippo heed will do for England. I haven’t slipped into an alternative reality have I? 😉

  • 3 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    Welcome to the marvellous university of English footballing achievement young man. At the very top of the fabulous tree is Fat Fairy Sam. Think about that for a moment, let it just sink in slowly….

  • 4 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    That’s who Freddy Woodman reminds me of

  • 5 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    Spoof from previous. Yup, i’d take Moses as I think he’d rip up this league. Not sure Ings is ready to give up on Liverpool just yet, he’s a confident lad who believes he’s good enough to be there and will expect to feature this season. If he hasn’t featured by January, that might be the time to go for him.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    Will Hippo Heeds inflated idea of self importance allow him to realise he is only there because he is the most experienced of a very very bad bunch.

  • 7 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:17 PM

    But less metallic.

  • 8 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:20 PM


    Just thinking similar with continuing positive vibes from Tsunki and Jail but other posters querying Rafa already – thought must be in the “upside down world of Stranger Things” 😉

  • 9 hibbitt // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    some of the posters on here need to step back and look where we are it’s not about players we are buying being good enough for the Prem it’s are they good enough to get us out of the Championship because that’s where we are
    this knocking a player before he ‘s even pulled the shirt on when they have never ever seen him play is just not on
    its going to be a long hard season with no guarantee of promotion

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:21 PM

    Worth a repost on the previous.
    I’m sure people are getting their impression of players from various footballing games, surely nobody on here spent more than 180 minutes watching Blackburn last year!

  • 11 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:21 PM

    How is Ings after his injury lay off?

  • 12 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    Beat me to it 😀

  • 13 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:23 PM

    Not sure if there’s enough room on here – cough cough – but could somebody remind me exactly what hippo heed has won to deserve his promotion? Managing NOT to get relegated isn’t inspiring for me. Total failure imo.

  • 14 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Jail that notion does not exist in FSA’s sphere of reason. If Ignorance is bliss, right now he is ecstatic with vindication that he is the ultimate solution to England’s sporting problems. Whereas the known world thinks absolutely the opposite.

  • 15 bettyswallocks // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    Spoof….. I’ve never seen this Hanley kid play so it’s just blind faith in Rafa’s judgement from me. It just winds me up though when people slag players off before they’ve even kicked a ball for us. There’s just no pleasing some folk.

  • 16 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    Before FiFa, Football Manager, SSN and Youtube there was the joy of finding out how good Supermac,Terry Mac, Andy Cole,Rob Lee etc were by watching them live for the first time – Oh bliss!

  • 17 ToonRich // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    If we’re looking at creativity thats already got league experience, someone like Wednesdays Fernando Forestieri would be one to look at…

  • 18 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Magscar @8 Is that you starting a provocative private exchange? Tsk Tsk. What’s ‘upside down about being realistic?

  • 19 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:34 PM


    Not at all just enjoying the postive vibes from most this season ( what’s not to like) and long may it last

  • 20 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Magscar, we’ll sign somebody else and it’ll be all rosy again. There’s plenty to be positive about as long as people remember what we are – a Championship club unable to attract the best of the best. Rafa can do it but he needs time and patience. I heard Janmaat had chosen to stay, according to his agent. He’ll be solid in the Championship for certain.
    Loving how Fergie is backing Hippo heed – the man who when asked who he wanted to win the last world cup said ‘anyone but England’. Tosser.

  • 21 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    I could imagine the goings on if Wally Brolly had applied for the England job and was appointed or the same scenario with King Percy.
    The old Pro Percy Brigade (now discreditted) and the Wally Brolly Fawners ( now discreditted) would have been on here giving it large about their man.
    ( Yee kna who yeez are).
    Thank heaven for small mercies.

  • 22 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    Btw ” upside down” is an alternative dimension ( I think) other aficionado’s of programme may correct me. Hence my connection to Bobby’s post.

    I mentioned you and Jail as you had been posting. There are other regulars who haven’t quite let go of the “old reality” yet but end of August with window closed and some games under our belt might allow them to begin to believe we are on the up as a club.

    Your realism as opposed to your jaundiced view is very welcome and I can see why you feel that way so no digs intended.

    Jail has been positive since Rafa arrived of course and his posts have also made for some good reading.

  • 23 SPRINGY // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:46 PM

    good luck to hanley,have’nt seen anything of him so cant and wont comment on his abilities..just have to trust rafas judgement….seems weird to say “trust the manager” here at newcastle…anyways…who’s next?…left back…left wing or striker?

  • 24 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Springy, left wing will do – Anthony Knockeart from Brighton. We need to pick the better players from our rivals and he’s top of my tree. Love to see him rampaging for us than against us.

  • 25 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    Mister Tuff

    But where are the Allardyce Aficionado’s shouting – Sam’s the Man I told you so!

    Mebbe’s his signing for Mackems completely turned them off?

  • 26 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Wijnaldum deal completed for £25m

  • 27 davis_toons // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Shelvy would properly start his first game on the bench. Once Gini is gone, hope that we can get a better midfielder.

  • 28 magscar // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    Most are positive just some with unrealistic expectations and dismissive of players before they have kicked a ball for us.

    Rafa won’t get it all right ( nor did KK and SBR) but I do expect him to get most and the important decisions right.

    Not too bothered about England or Ferguson’s views ( why didn’t he mention Moyes ?) FA never surprise me but I hadn’t realised England were in relegation trouble 🙂

  • 29 davis_toons // Jul 21, 2016 at 5:59 PM

    Pool is gonna be a force.
    Do they also wanted Shelvy in any case? …just bring along..

  • 30 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:03 PM

    Magscar, or maybe they’re none existing mate! He certainly can do no worse than the last couple of decades, but I will be left gobsmacked if he does better. The only upside I can envisage, is that he might play PL style football in Internationals, instead of trying to beat them by changing to their tactics. It’s only a two year contract anyway and who really fancies going to Russia? 🙂

  • 31 SPRINGY // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:08 PM

    were’nt we close to signing knockeart a few year ago?….seems to have done canny is this league.

  • 32 davis_toons // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    Sam Allardyce hard to beat England will be there for us to see. Great!

    Do a Greek.

  • 33 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    Springy, not sure mate, but i’d love to sign him now, regardless of what Brighton might want for him. He’s shone in this league and good enough to step up. No brainer for me.

  • 34 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    krul to be kind

    someone said he doesn’t have a medical till tomorrow

  • 35 Tsunki // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:11 PM

    Yes Davis but for the spectators it’ll be a hard to stay awake England.

  • 36 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:15 PM

    Not happy that we are selling our best players. Hope we can find quality replacements.

    I look at player recruitment as a lottery. Every new player has a chance of making it in the prem. We usually find one player out of every 3 or 4 signings. When we sell two of our players with proven quality we must consider the money we spent on the others that didn’t make it. Makes that 50-60M not look so good to me.

  • 37 SPRINGY // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    aye im sure when he was playing in france we were linked with him and in talks…then nowt…then next thing he’s playing for leicester i believe it was….we need another left winger and possibly a left back, winger first as im not a dummett hater,so if he plays see how he gets on under rafa.

  • 38 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:20 PM

    Also, I’m going to say it, I am happy that England went with Big Sam. Better than Klinsmann or Hodgson. I would have loved for Sam to have been in charge at the Euros. We need to play to our strengths (Andy Carrol + Nolan + Wingers) and with a known quality (balls into the box). Something Sam will do. Quit trying to play like Spain!

  • 39 Bobbybee // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    Springy, got to go, but Dummett is very underrated imo. Like Willo, his distribution is very iffy, but players need to take more responsibility and take it off him early. Defending he’s solid and remarkably quick. Anyway, catchya later hopefully.

  • 40 Hail Wor Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    I’d honestly rather Bruce than Fat Sam.

    Bruce at least has a good track record of winning one-off matches and taking underdog teams far in cup competitions.

    His 3-5-2 system might have freshened things up also. Has a defined system he prefers and is good at drilling a defence.

    Allardyce will probably revert to type, expect Andy Carroll to be a fixture in the squad, injuries permitting!

    Anyway, can’t get much worse than a manager that didn’t know how he wanted the team to play after 4 years in charge, the tactically hodgepodge Hodgson!

  • 41 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    We need a goal scoring CM. Maybe grab a veteran on a one year deal looking to play for Rafa.
    Wes Snjieder?
    Lucho Gonzalez?
    Frank Lampard?

    Slightly younger/more realistic:
    Tom Ince
    Jack Harrison
    John Swift
    Jack Grealish

    Cauley Woodrow
    Jonathan Kodjia
    Tomer Hemed
    Nahki Wells

    Kortney Hause
    Dominic Iorfa
    Matt Targett
    Callum Chambers

  • 42 JamesToon // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    So who we gonna replace Wijnaldum with? I trust whoever Rafa sees fit.

    He needs to be a creative goal getting attacking midfielder. Ideally I think we should keep Thauvin as he could really develop in the championship especially as Sissoko looks to be leaving. Options:
    – Will Hughes
    – Alan Judge
    – Alex Pritchard
    – Luis Alberto?

    We will also need possibly another winger. Ince? Ryan Fraser? Jordan Graham?

    Looking forward to seeing who Rafa brings in.

  • 43 JamesToon // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    Jack Grealish but he has apparent attitude problems and I don’t think villa will sell to us

  • 44 JamesToon // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    We need a Dimitri Payet kind of player

  • 45 ShirebrookToon // Jul 21, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Jeff Hendrick

  • 46 toon kk // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    Gini can’t possibly be replaced with a like for like, we’re a championship club so we’re limited to certain players and wage demands.
    We need a strong hard working side, with pace and capable of scoring, something we really struggled with last season.

  • 47 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:08 PM


    can’t agree. allardyce is a total dinosaur and this is such a backward step it’s unbelievable.

    lumping it forward endlessly and getting neck ache, is that really the way to go? why not try and play like Spain?, the world has moved on from the dark age tactics of fat sham.

    would much rather we tried to play football like germany, fast passing and moving and not just one dimensionally hoofing it to a lumbering target man for 90 mins. Last 20 mins for a carroll type if nothing else has worked and you’re chasing a game.

  • 48 GeordieTwo // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    25M for Wini is good business. Next it’s Sissoko for possibly 5M more? That would give us 55M. Lots of money for Rafa and for the club.

  • 49 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    When you look a the way our transfers in and out are shaping up the realities of the drop start to seem a bit disconcerting. You hope that its not coming as a shock to Benitez, and that of course he’ll tough it out and that the owner will to. What at first seemed a relatively straightforward task, get a big club with quality players back up where they belong, now seems a more problematic one. We’ll have a well managed and competitive side, but not the one to take the league by the scruff of the neck Benitez might have been hoping for.

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM

    sissoko and gini were always leaving. they went missing in the PL and would have done again in the championship. I wouldn’t miss either of Shelvey or Janmatt for that matter.

    Rafa has signed some tough customers with experience.

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    Wini was a problem player jimmysmith mate. He had to go. His attitude sucked for away games. We got 25M for him, so a net gain of 10.5M for the club to improve itself. Sissy will go as well. We are going to play a different style with different players but we have a solid core, far better than most Championship sides. I see us near the top of the division and Rafa will make adjustments if necessary in January. Cheer up mate, we haven’t played a game that matters yet!

  • 52 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    Cheer down a little. haha!

  • 53 Belfast // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    Dazza Klinsman completely revamped the whole Germany set up and implemented the current style of play that they’ve had a lot of success with. He would have been a good shout in my opinion. He was never really under consideration anyway. Fat Sam was always a shoe in with Fergies mate choosing the new boss.

  • 54 JamesToon // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:54 PM


    get rid of janmaat, keep shelvey

  • 55 Toon Tang // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:55 PM

    Hahahaaaaaaa aaaa haha

    Watching the news before and they said “Is Sam Allardyce the saviour of English football”

    Now you can come at me all you want with your bollocks “he’ll get the defence tightened up” etc etc. But it Fat Sam is being hailed as the saviour of English footy we might as well shoot wor sens now.

    Hes won two crumby play off finals in his whole managerial career so whats the thinking behind this statement?

    He’s a perennial ‘fight off relegation at any cost’ manager and always will be. We need managers that know how to win a game through a balance of defence and attack, not just long ball horse shit all game.

    (*Disclaimer* I will eat a semen butty if he manages to go any better than the previous chump managers we’ve had over the last couple of decades)

  • 56 Toon Tang // Jul 21, 2016 at 7:58 PM


    Someone crazy as hell like Tino Asprilla or Paul Scharner.

  • 57 Belfast // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:03 PM

    They basically got rid of one relegation firefighter and replaced him with another toon tang.

    He’ll only ever play one way too, although he’s probably promised the Fa attacking football like he has done previously at club level. 🙂

  • 58 Average_Contents // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:05 PM

    Luckily for you toontang I’ve got a feeling you’ll never have to let that semen butty past your lips mate.


  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:18 PM

    Spooky, I agree with you there, as much as I dislike the Manc mackems turncoat I’d prefer him over Allardyce

  • 60 Mag52 // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:24 PM


    Without wishing to start up the old anti Pardew, pro Pardew, arguments of yesteryear, I’d just like to say that those who rated AP as an average to good manager were by no means discredited (one ‘t’ incidently) by Palace’s performance last season.
    To stay in the Premiership and reach an FA Cup final, all on pretty much of a shoestring budget, was a commendable effort and worthy of respect by anyone but an old curmudgeon like yourself.

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:40 PM

    The greatest thing Alan Pardew achieved in football was managing to convince people he does alright. People completely overlooked his failure to win a game for the large part of this year due to his FA cup final appearance.

  • 62 LGFUAD21 // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    Fully behind the decision to let Gini go.

    Great talent. But he definitely wouldn’t turn up in the championship. He disappeared once we were in the heat of battle.

    I also think he complicated the team, much like sissoko.

    He’s a number 10 but he never played well enough to earn that spot so we put him on the wing.

    We’ll do good with the cash and we’ll end up with a more balanced side as a result.

    Decent profit too. And despite what some may say. Unless you are champions league. You need to make profit on player sales. We can turn that into 2 players worthy of this team.
    I used to always get sucked into the star quality players but they’ve got us nowhere. Let’s do what we do best and get in some no nonsense dependable warriors like the hughton side.

  • 63 Toon Tang // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    That butty has been made and is being frozen for whenever the time should come (pun intended) haha :-), I think you will be right though AC.

    You’re not wrong with that wee knowledge nugget as well belfast mate, like RH said before it certainly feels like a sideways step at the very least.

    I guess we’ll have to ride it out and see how the WC in russia pans out.

  • 64 geordie157 // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Can we just offload Shelvey and buy Hendrick who puts in a shift.

  • 65 bettyswallocks // Jul 21, 2016 at 8:55 PM

    I still have to pinch myself sometimes to be sure we do have a proper manager at last.

  • 66 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:04 PM

    47Rotonda – b/c we just aren’t good enough. Play like the Germans, that’s a good one. I think we need a manager who knows the players and implements a system that works for them. Just so sick of watching a group of players with no cohesion or strategy.

    53Belfast – but what did he do with the USA?… not much. I find it hard to credit Klinsmann with setting up the entire German infrastructure.

    I agree, Allardyce is unlikely to revolutionize the England team but at least you know what you get with him. He is not going to play strikers as wingers and Rooney as CM. He has a formula and it typically gets the best out of his players. I mean just look at that Sunlun team he kept up, miracle.

  • 67 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    JamesToon, need a player like Payet = Farès Bahlouli

  • 68 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    Shoestring budget , wasn’t cabaye on 100k a week and didn’t they have bolasie, puncheon, zaha, gayle, 9M whickham etc.

    As jail says if the FA cup hadn’t happened AP had set the worst losing streak in CP’s history to match us, WHU and Charlton. Amazed with those qualifications AP didn’t get the England job.

    I shouldn’t bite on Mag 52, we all know AP was s—e, end of.

  • 69 stuart no9 // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    i think big sam will go down in history as the man who took over a totally disorganised england team and made them better .
    Make of that what you will.!!!

  • 70 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    Mag52 – as expected my post managed to flush out an old Percy Parsnip accolyte still dreaming of yesteryear and trying to salvage some kudos after supporting The King.
    Flushed out like the result of a good dose of Syrup of Figs.
    Not wanting to be cheeky but have you learned the King Percy Goal Dance.

  • 71 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:19 PM


    You remind me of a quote by allan hansen 20 years ago after we had been played off the park at wembley by romania. Hansen said we can’t play like that, so don’t try!!

    ironically Liverpool, Manu and Forest did so well in Europe by playing good football. why do you want to send us back 20 years playing hoofball.

    England have had some appalling managers but SBR played good football, as did Venables and to a degree Hoddle. Are you seriously saying that footballers on £250k a week haven’t got the technical skills to play it on the deck.

    Motivation they may not have, but bypassing midfield and playing wimbledon style football will achieve what exactly?

    If you don’t try to improve you stay as you are or go backwards. with the foreign players and managers in the PL we’ve never had a better chance to learn at first hand how to get technically better, so why turn back to neanderthal defensive hoofball merchants like fat sham.

  • 72 Novocastrian66 // Jul 21, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Sam Allardyce is another con man. Breakfast news this morning labelled him as a winner. What has he won? Hmmm, nothing.
    Just about everyone on the old boy networks are saying what a great manager he is and that his preferred playing style is a myth. Cannot wait to hear their crack when England are knocked out of the World Cup at the group stage after failing to win a match.
    I’m as gutted as the Sunderland fans that he has left them for a different reason. They will probably end up with a better manager.

  • 73 Yo-yo // Jul 21, 2016 at 10:00 PM

    It’s not great to let a good player go, but Wini is not a Championship player. He is an EPL relegation player – and his failures to show up for us when needed, despite his obvious talents, was pretty poor.
    Best let him try a new situation, but where he’s going to slot into a midfield heavy Bindipper side is anybody’s guess.
    Can’t wait to see how Rafa replaces him

  • 74 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 21, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    So you think Geordie Two. Ashley hasn’t had his share yet.We are buying mediocre Championship players for the Championship & everyone thinks we will walk straight back up. Whole different ballgame for Rafa working in the Championship.
    I say unless you are going to get players to “honour” their contracts just don’t offer 4/5 year deals. These sort are just mercenaries. They got us relegated they should be made to stay & work to get us back up. Footballers today are sickening! But never mind Cashley has maddened financial profit out of them. Still Krul Tiote Janmaat & Shelvey (who Rafa doesn’t rate) to go yet. Tom Ince would be a good buy.

  • 75 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2016 at 10:38 PM

    Liverpool won’t think they’ve bought an epl relegation player. They’ll, believe they’ve spent 25 million pounds on player to play and help the side push for a Champions league spot.

    For a number of years instead of lifting the common dominator we’ve asked our better players to compensate for a too thin group. Now we’ve got a more balanced group, but we’ve dropped a division and sold our best players in doing it.

    Townsend, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, along with Janmaat and Krul, who also may go, are not epl bottom three players, whereas Ritchie, Gayle, Hanley, Hayden, Sels and perhaps Gamez at 32 might be.

  • 76 dazza // Jul 21, 2016 at 10:58 PM

    Rotonda. Nice quote pull. Not what I’m saying though. I think you and others underestimate Sam. He’s not exactly going to tell his players to lob it into the box at every go like he might of at Bolton but he’s also not going to hit the randomize button after every game in team selection.

    Let’s wait and see but like Stuart says, I have a good feeling about this. He’s a strong enough character not to cave to the whim of the media or player wages and will play with intent. Can’t be any worse than a Broly, Hogsy, or Capello. Won’t be a Robson neither but stil…

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