Report – Another High Profile Player To Leave Newcastle


Corriere Dello Sport in Italy are reporting today that Florian Thauvin will move to Lazio on loan for next season, and that will happen once Antonio Candreva’s transfer is completed.

They report the loan contract will include a loan fee of  2M  and there will be an option to buy – and we also assume his wages will also be paid by the Rome-based club.

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Florian Thauvin – loan deal with option to make move permanent

The loan deal seems similar to that of Remy Cabella’s loan to Marseilles last season, when the transfer would become permanent when Florian plays a stated number of game for the Lazio first team.

The permanent deal could then be invoked and probably will be made permanent in January since we assume Florian will be a good addition to the Lazio team since he has played quite well in Newcastle’s pre-season.

The transfer fee is reported to be  €11M and that means if he does make the move permanent Newcastle will get €13M for him in total (including the loan fee), which is around £11M – so we got most of our money we paid to Marseille for him last August.

Given Florian had such a disastrous time of it last season at Newcastle, that seems like a good deal the Magpies have negotiated with Lazio – always assuming the Corriere Dello Sport  report is accurate.

This deal has been reported to be pending for a number of weeks now with the transfer of Antonio Candreva being the thing that has been holding things up – but it is now likely that Candreva will be moving to Inter-Milan.

Florian has always been reported as being the replacement for the 29 year-old Italian winger.

Florian was probably completely overwhelmed at Newcastle last season, given we started so badly and basically never recovered under the woeful Steve McClaren as head coach.

But the 23 year-old has done well to come back to Newcastle for pre-season and be the professional he has looked over the last four weeks.

It cannot have been easy for him, but he will also have known this deal was pending and very likely to happen.

At the start of the summer the high profile players who could leave Newcastle were Andros Townsend, Gini Wijnaldum, Florian Thauvin, Moussa Sissoko and Daryl Janmaat – and Rafa wanted to keep as many as possible.

If the Thauvin deal  goes through and then we sell Moussa Sissoko – as expected – that will be four of the five who have left the club this summer.

Wonder if Daryl will stay?

Thauvin made 13 appearance for Newcastle (unlucky for some) with one goal and three assists.

One final thought – if we sell Thauvin for £11M and Moussa for £35M we will have made £84M on four players – Townsend, Wijnaldum, Thauvin and Sissoko.

We have to replace them.

That will not be easy and at least the first two players – Townsend and Wijnaldum – were probably our best two players in terms of ability and class.

Comments welcome.



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52 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #1

    Ian – “So what did you think of our midfield shape in the Southend game, Imelda, and what did Ferdinand think of you spending all that money on shoes? “

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #2

    expat,from previous
    forgot about n’zogbia tbh,not sure what state he’s in fitness and physically wise,was good on the left for us but like sinclair been really off the boil a long time,would’nt cost nowt…but not sure he would be accepted!lol

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  • Ron Knee

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #3

    “Not like that. Like this.”

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  • Ian Toon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #4

    15Ian Toon // Jul 27, 2016 at 12:25 PM

    Mr Tuff- I would refer you to an answer I have previously given:

    31Ian Toon // Apr 8, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Mr Tuff- I have responded previously. All my own material – I write/ submit for the Metro and others usually under the titled Sports Reporter banner. I don’t have a problem someone else posting under their name because it means they rate the content. I am using the leverage to get some work potentially from the London, Evening Standard. Hope this meets with your approval. Don’t worry it’s only a hobby
    I have a desire to qualify in a very much more worthwhile field than becoming an old hack- I can’t keep up in the drinking stakes.

    I wrote occasional articles for WSC when in my first year at Uni as an 18 year old. It helped towards my survival.

    We’ve spoken before about people with agendas- I always look at who’s saying what and why they’re saying it.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #5

    “A man walks into a bar, and he said OUCH, cause it was an iron bar.”

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #6

    I don’t know why people fall for it and me especially. Ian Toon will take great delight in watching the blog degenerate in to farce. He makes a rare appearance to say how good the blog is, hinting because a certain person isn’t here ‘for whatever reason’.
    HWA, we’re agreeing on a lot these days!

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  • BeeGuy

    Jul 27, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #7

    WHile Newcastle have brought in promising new players, the outgoing ones have left the club weaker. Seeing Anita playing on the right mid made me wonder if Rafa had him do it so he would learn to be more attack minded, or if he is going to be one of the wingers. NUFC looking more solid at the back, but the mid field seems to be in flux.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #8

    beeguy
    rafa may well just be testing the water as it were….he played janmaat there last game then anita this game,with sterry mbabu,janmaat,anita and possibly mbemba we seem to have an abundance of right sided players/rb’s,so converting one into a right winger or wing back/right midfielder as cover for ritchie maybe a thought of rafas.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #9

    Isnt zog training at the mackems? I am sure he turned out for a freindly for them too. He might end up there.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #10

    ycmiu
    aye he is but and they will probs give him a year contract so they dont have to buy another player…keep there coin as the skint…ish.

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  • martoon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #11

    I’m getting a little concerned now seeing all these players leave – I thought a couple might be persuaded to stay. We surely have to bring in some replacements but I ‘m sure Rafa knows this. I’m actually starting to wonder whether part of Rafa’s brief was to reduce the wage bill in return for a transfer budget?

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #12

    Springy

    They are really struggling to sign players. Thier owner has them in a financial mess.

    They now know how we feel when a player cant be brought “over the line” 😀

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #13

    ycmiu
    aye they seem to be struggling,i expect them to sign someone but them and hull right now look like they could struggle.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Bee Guy,
    I don’t think there are many relegated clubs in the history of the game that have appeared stronger on paper. We do need an incoming for every outgoing now though.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Expat

    From the list of gone/likely to go, i would say obertan, marveaux, cabella and thauvin played so little part, that we wont have to replace all of them. I think One player would make up for those four. Just my opinion on it, but i think if we signed a wide player, a creative player and a left back, and possibly a-n-other, we would be more than covered until jan. I actually think we could get away with just a winger and a left back for now.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #16

    Good old Chronic:-

    “If Thauvin and Tiote go, that would leave Newcastle with the following midfield options:

    Jonjo Shelvey
    Matt Ritchie
    Isaac Hayden
    Cheick Tiote
    Vurnon Anita, etc.”

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  • expatmag

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #17

    MARTOON

    Was just thinking that myself. Experience and quality seems to be dropping and whilst there appears to be a vast savings on salaries, the squad us starting to look a little thin on the ground for a 46 game season plus cup matches

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #18

    ron
    who was the writer…lee ryder?lol

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  • expatmag

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #19

    YCMIU

    Yes. You are quite right. However, as I stated in my last post, we seem to be short on numbrs in certain areas

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  • Ron Knee

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #20

    SPRINGY

    The other one, Mark Douglas!

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #21

    ron
    ah ryt…forgot there was 2 to choose from!lol

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #22

    Rb – Gamez, Janmaat. (Anita hayden)
    Cb – mbemba, lascelles, hanley (dummet)
    Lb – NewLB, haidara (dummet)
    Cm – shelvey, hayden, anita, colback
    Rm – ritchie, goofy, (anita janmaat)
    Lm – aarons, newLM, (one of the rms)
    AM – Perez, SDJ (arma)
    St – Mitro, Gayle (arma)

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #23

    forgot about gamez before…whoops!

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #24

    Expat

    I agree. And if we get a couple of injuries we will be back to square pegs in round holes. I think Januarys window is going to be as important as this one.

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  • martoon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #25

    expatmag @17 – I agree 100%. While our first pick team is decent enough – a few injuries and we are starting to look a bit lightweight.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #26

    be interesting first team selection against fulham…i expect the usual 4-2-3-1,but who plays where and if we have any new signings will very interesting….we may get some kind of idea this weekend.

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  • martoon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #27

    YMCIU – are you looking at my screen? 🙂

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  • ToonRich

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #28

    YCMIU, dont forget;
    rb – Sterry / Mbabu
    lb – Mbabu can cover there too!
    cb – Findlay?
    wing – Callum Roberts

    Although I probably only include Sterry and Mbabu in first team fixtures, and the other two perhaps in the cups.

    I still like to see new LB, AM C/L, ST

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #29

    I wonder whats going to happen to the likes of Sameobi and Vukic. This league is probably thier level, so they might find themselves getting games in the first half of the season. Maybe they are the plan until Jan?

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #30

    Martoon

    I’ve been saying the same thing for weeks, we have youngsters and made some decent signings but very thin in terms of numbers in the squad. I’m quite concerned at the current plight of it, letting Thauvin go out on loan for the sake of 2m euros is the craziest of the lot. Even with tiote, had 1 year left keep him get promoted and he can leave on a free…..promotion is worth much more.

    You’ll get the usual spouted around that trust in Rafa stuff…..these players need to gel and it’s better to do it pretty season rather than during the season.

    Add sissoko and possibly Krul to go yet and the squad looks utter shite for such a gruelling campaign of 2 games a week

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #31

    Toon rich

    Yeah i forgot about sterry and mbabu, both who have had first team football.

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  • SPRINGY

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #32

    would say a minimum of a left winger is needed if there were only to be one signing but i expect 4-5 before the window shuts with 2-3 going permanent then a 4-5 loans.

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #33

    Toon rich

    Mbabu needs to concentrate on his fitness same with Aaron’s, SDJ another sick note. Worrying times as those 3 are constantly injured

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  • giimps

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #34

    They maybe think there are 2 tiotes, don’t tell Ashley that though, he’d have them both sold , one to UAE and one to China

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  • expatmag

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #35

    YCMIU

    The likes of Bigi and Saviet and Riviere have been missed off the lists above too

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #36

    Expat

    Ah yes. Saviet should probably get games too. We dont really know what he can do yet. Not sure if bigi will feature. Seems to have faded. Rivvy might as well be left off every list 😀

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  • Oleg G

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #37

    CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO ME PLEASE?

    We had a thin squad last year (and we had it for some time now).

    As it looks right now, Tiote, Tauvin and Sissoko will leave the club as well.

    We have sold\released 6 players from our squad (Saylor, Colo, Gini, Remy C, Cisse) and brought in 6 other players.

    If no more surprises, we will have 9-10 players who will be gone in total by the end of the window.

    Even if we will bring another 3-4 players, that will be just to replace the ones we’ve lost. So our squad will continue in its previous “thin” state?

    Right now we aren’t even seem to be after 3-4 players. Barely a pair.

    How is this going to work?

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  • ToonRich

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #38

    Our Toon, I agree with that…anyone know if Mbabu’s injury is a re-occuring one or has it been a new injury each time hes been laid up?
    Both he and Aarons are starting to get game time under their belts so hopefully they’re over whatever it is thats hampered them! SDJ, not too sure about his overall fitness, seems to be one thing after another with him!

    expatmag, do you think Bigi and Riv would cut it, even at this level?
    I liked the look of Saviet at doncaster, but cant really base an opinion on 1 second half performance in a pre season!!

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  • El Sleeve

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #39

    seems a lot of the departing foreign lads are getting replaced by young British talent, which is never a bad thing

    Only worry is the numbers that are leaving, unless Sterry and Armstrong are gonna make the step up, we need some more signings.

    Pritchard, Charlie Taylor and another winger wouldn’t go amiss.

    Can’t really wait to see the back of Sissoko and the inevitable sulk that will come from him after sitting on the subs bench for 6 months

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  • expatmag

    Jul 27, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #40

    TOONRICH

    I think Riviere has been very unfortunate, firstly with injuries but importantly, being played out if position as a centre forward.

    He may well be the winger option we are looking for as thus is his best position.

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