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Benitez Puts Newcastle Into A No Lose Situation

8:41 pm, Thursday, August 4th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 154 Comments

It was really interesting to hear Rafa Benitez talk last night during the BBC Radio Newcastle call-in show with Mick Lowe about Moussa Sissoko – and Rafa genuinely seems to like the big Frenchman.

Rafa said that he liked Moussa as a footballer and also as a person and said he had talked with both Moussa and his agent and told them what the deal was with Newcastle.

Basically if Newcastle get what the club is asking for him – said to be a cool £35M – he will be allowed to leave the club this summer, but otherwise we would not sell and he would have to stay.

moussa sissoko rafa benitez spurs

Rafa Benitez and Moussa Sissoko

This is how Rafa has backed up those words today in his press conference for the Fulham game tomorrow night:

“Moussa is training well and we don’t have any official offers on the table, a lot of speculation from agents and media but nothing on the table officially,”

“If he goes, hopefully it will be the right price for us — but if he stays I will be delighted.”

It seems a little amazing, but if clubs are turned away by the high transfer fee placed on the Frenchman’s head it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he will not be sold and Moussa could stay at Newcastle past August.

On the other hand ….. there’s always Liverpool.

🙂

If he stays it’s unlikely he would want to leave in January – assuming we do as well as we hope to in the league  – and who know Moussa may be getting his wish to play for a big club who plays in the Champions League in the near future.

Without even making a move.

That’s the less likely scenario of course, but still possible.

So it’s really a win-win for Newcastle, whichever way it goes. whether Moussa stays or Moussa goes.

If he does stay we will have to get Rafa to tell him to stop making those stupid comments to the French press every time he’s called away on International duty.

And of course he will not be the captain, with Jamaal Lascelles deservedly being made made captain today at the very young age of 22.

But this lad has huge leadership ability and tremendous passion for the club.

With Moussa, most Newcastle fans probably want him to leave before the month is out, given all the statements he’s made since the Euro 2016 Championships.

Certainly if we get £35M for him that’s an excellent deal and if stays he could help Newcastle tear up the Championship.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Financials · Moussa Sissoko · Transfer News and Rumours




154 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ron Knee // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    ‘Newcatsle’ – mark of authenticity!

  • 2 ShirebrookToon // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:45 PM

    Oops!

  • 3 Belfast // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    West Bromwich or Palace.

    He should also hire a trustworthy agent who doesn’t tell him fibs.

  • 4 Belfats // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Top of the morning

  • 5 Belfats // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Top of the morning

  • 6 Ron Knee // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    ‘Newcastle’ – as if by magic!

  • 7 ShirebrookToon // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    What! Pinocchio is Moussas agent? Lol

  • 8 Rafa Revolution // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    We won’t get £35 for Moussa

  • 9 Belfast // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Top of the morning to you too brother.

  • 10 Belfast // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    His agent is obviously filling his heed full a crap.

  • 11 hibbitt // Aug 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    more chance of getting 35m for Rafa than Sissoko

  • 12 stephen1971 // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:02 PM

    just rafa saying he,s in no hurry to sell so pay up what we want or off yi go

  • 13 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    Bit of poker being played, methinks

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:09 PM

    How on earth is the tax payer funding W Hams move to a new stadium?

  • 15 swemag // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:22 PM

    Once Pogba deal done Sissoko will go for 32. No way he is here September 1st.

  • 16 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:24 PM

    Assuming no more movement in the transfer market the strongest 1st 11 imo would be
    Krul
    Janmat Mbemba Lascelles Dummet

    Sissoko Mbia Colback Ritchie

    Mitrovic Gayle

    Id be happy with that line up in the Premier league

  • 17 RolandoOverhead // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:28 PM

    Mbia?
    You mean Diame surely

  • 18 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    lol that’s the fella rolando

  • 19 dok - the horrid colonial // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Ive a good feeling about tomorrow, think well smash them 3-0… I put $50 on it as well 🙂

  • 20 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:34 PM

    Hope your right Dok. I reckon 2 -1 win. I think it will take us about 5 or 6 games to get into full flow performance wise but I can still see us picking up initial results

  • 21 dok - the horrid colonial // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM

    agreed beautiful..

    I am taking half a day, and got the local here in texas to put it on, and have volume as well…. ill be pissed by halftime I hope, and singing 🙂

  • 22 ZIPPIE57 // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    sell sell sell

  • 23 jimmysmith // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    I’d love Sissoko to stay, and Tiote. We’d have an unstoppable squad. Sissoko on the right, in this league, in this team, Tiote alongside Shelvey or Diame, with Perez or De Jong in the hole, Ritchie on the left, and Mitro up top. Good Lord.

  • 24 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2016 at 9:54 PM

    Prediction wise, I’ve got us drawing tomorrow then going on a 5 win streak.

  • 25 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:02 PM

    Enjoy Dok
    I agree on Sissoko and tiote staying are important for our season. Proven premiership players make all the difference in this league whether some people like it or not.
    Quality separates the wheat from the chaff!!

  • 26 dok - the horrid colonial // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    clinath,

    can we get the win tomorrow, then the draw and a 4 game win streak? 🙂

  • 27 GeordieTwo // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    Just had a breakthrough thinking about the team lads. Here it is: went onto Transfer Market and found Colback’s value at 7.5 M euros. Now, Colback is not one of our top 8 players. Yet he’s worth 7.5 M euros! That means we have a top, top squad! Beautiful…..

  • 28 Fostino // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    I expect a cautious toon line up

    Sels

    Janmaat lascalles mbemba jesus

    Hayden colback

    Anita shelvey ritchie

    Gayle

    Perez Arrons Diame to come on if needed

  • 29 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:12 PM

    I personally think colback is under rated. I think he breaks up the oppositions play well, reads the game well and helps keep our shape. Hes in Rafas 1st 11 as well so that suggests he sees something similar

  • 30 lesh // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:13 PM

    If there’s no acceptable bid on the table for Sissoko, he’s got nobody else to blame but himself. After all, he bigged himself up as being EuCL material so he’s priced accordingly. He could though consider the fact that he’s worth £35m to Newcastle United. He’s boxed himself into a catch 22 situation so whether he stays or goes, Rafa’s played him well – provided he responds to Rafa’s encouragement.

    Geordie Two

    If welshie’s to be in line for a villain’s role, it can only be as a pantomime villain.

    His punning humour though is more often than not, clever. Take a bow weshieboyo, you’ve got one fan at least – me.

  • 31 RolandoOverhead // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    Toon to go unbeaten all season 50-1, worth a punt

  • 32 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:17 PM

    I don’t think rafa will take too many risks in terms of differing the team from last season
    I think rafa might go for go for
    Darlow
    Janmat Mbemba Lascelles Dunnet
    Anita Colback Shelvey
    Ritchie Perez Gayle

  • 33 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:18 PM

    Fostino
    Diame, Clark, Sissoko and Tiote will not take part Tomorrow.
    reported by/on radio Newcastle earlier today

  • 34 jimmysmith // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Yeah, Colback will be well worth his place when selected. I’m not sure he get’s in our best 11 though, should Tiote and Sissoko stay.

  • 35 StevoNorthShields // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:19 PM

    Did I just imagine this or did moussa only score one league goal all of last season, despite hardly missing a game?? I can’t imagine his goals created and scored stats are particularly good over the last four seasons or so

  • 36 lesh // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    Beautiful mind

    I’m with you about Colbeck. He doesn’t hide and gives his all which is more than can be said for some last season.

    If anyone can use his energy and passion it’s Rafa.

    I’ve been consistent in saying that some fans have got to have a player to get at and now that Saylor and Collo have gone, it looks like it’s Jack Colbeck’s turn to be the one that’s blamed for everything.

    Criticism’s fine as Lon as it’s constructive’s fine but constant sniping doesn’t do a player or the Club for that matter any good at all.

    Lay off the lad and praise his positives rather than close their eyes to them.

  • 37 bettyswallocks // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    https://youtu.be/lefP0_ZM-Lw

    G2………. I thought you might like this

  • 38 StevoNorthShields // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:22 PM

    As a direct example, Laurent Robert was vilified as bone idle etc, whilst regularly scoring 5-10 goals a season and assisting a fair few. Ginola…. Solano…. Even lads like rob lee who started on the wing and Scott sellars… The lazy French wannabe isn’t fit to lace any of these lads boots in my humble opinion

  • 39 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:23 PM

    Sissoko did what most other players do in situations like this. Look after himself which I have no problem with. If he stays he just needs to get his focus back and crack on. The fans should get behind him as long as he is at Newcastle and keep the moral high ground

  • 40 lesh // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    Charlie

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    lesh,
    It will be very interesting to see how his relationship with the fans pans out if he stays.

  • 42 RolandoOverhead // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM

    beautifulmind
    Colback has ability but has a major flaw.
    He tackles with his hands instead of his feet, which gifts the opposition free-kicks quite often in dangerous areas.

  • 43 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:25 PM

    lesh

    Surly I’ve got more than one fan on here.

  • 44 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:27 PM

    Looking at the players Rafa has brought in I don’t think he will be looking to play a cautious game. He know we need to win game to get promotion, as do the players, regardless of the team he puts out tomorrow the only thing on their minds will be getting of to a flyer and winning the game.

    Our players may be under pressure more so in a league where we are the team to beat, but I think they will handle that well.

    2-0 to the Toon Gayle & Perez.

    HWTL

  • 45 jimmysmith // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    Sissoko has been a go to player in poor Newcastle sides. I would expect vastly improved goals and assists in a good one. Robert, Ginola, Solano, and Rob Lee did enjoy that luxury.

  • 46 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Wouldn’t be at all surprised if sissoko stays, if a team like Real Madrid is not interested then there’s no hope for him.

  • 47 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:30 PM

    I hear you Lesh. Lets get behind all the players and encourage them to give their all for the cause

  • 48 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:30 PM

    Sissoko under Rafa in the championship is a no brainer.

  • 49 lesh // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    Jail

    Yes, Sissoko’s got a lot of bridge building to do and I think that Rafa is trying to help him do that. But, will Sissoko respond if he stays? I think he will otherwise he’ll realise he’ll be dropped and his dreams of ‘beautiful’ clubs’ll be nothing more than wishful thinking. His agent has a crucial role to play in that and I suspect that Rafa’s made that point to him – that he has damaged and will further damage Moussa’s career if he continues to fill his head with ideas that will result in nice little earners for him, his agent.

  • 50 GeordieTwo // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:32 PM

    Very nice bettys mate. Fish dancing is not to be confused with Semi-Frozen Kipper Fonging though. Just keep that in mind mate… Harrumph…..

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:33 PM

    I hope so jimmysmith mate. If he stays that is, which I doubt. I think we’ll all be watching closely and having high expectations…..

  • 52 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:34 PM

    Welshie

    How is it a no brainer marra?

    If Sissoko keeps making the same mistakes when making his runs, poor passing and keeping the ball when he should be passing etc, then it doesn’t matter what league we are in.

    If he stays he will have to up his game quite a lot and play like he did in his last two games for France.

  • 53 lesh // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    Ah, good evening welshieboyo.

    Of course you have more than one fan on here. My alter-ego loves your wit too.

    You’re a legend…..

  • 54 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM

    That’s really nit picking Rolando on Colback. A lot of players in Colbacks position do this. The amount of pressure the team was constantly under in premiership giving freekicks away was inevitable. I think colback will look better where we are more dominant in games.

  • 55 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    lesh

    Please will you stop, you will have me in tears.

    Ha ha ha

  • 56 bettyswallocks // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:37 PM

    Welshie……….. I’m also a fan.

  • 57 RolandoOverhead // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:38 PM

    If he really wants a move before the window closes, all Sissoko has to do is continue the form he showed for France, add a couple of goals in the first few matches and the calls will come, he knows it, his agent knows it and Rafa knows it.

  • 58 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    Rolando

    Maybe that’s why he hasn’t travelled for the Fulham game, Rafa is keeping him off the pitch til the window closes. 😀

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM

    firebug

    Of course it’s a no brainer, working under Benitez rather than mcclaren or Pardew, he will cut out all the mistakes and get his confidence back, Christ messi and Ronaldo would be rubbish under those two managers.

  • 60 GeordieTwo // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:42 PM

    I don’t understand welshie’s jokes so I can’t comment. It’s something about the accent I believe……

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:43 PM

    Wow I’ve got two fans, looking at the names on here with the predictions that martoon setup I’ve got a long way to go yet, no where’s my mate jail.

    Ha ha ha

  • 62 bettyswallocks // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:44 PM

    Welshie……. Do you think Coleman will go to Hull?

  • 63 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:45 PM

    GeordieTwo

    Perhaps you don’t understand English.

    Ha ha ha

  • 64 jimmysmith // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Well it took 25 million to get Widjnaldum, which was quite remarkable considering his away form. 35 million for Sissoko is a similarly high fee. It wouldn’t surprise if it wasn’t met, and he had to stay. And it wouldn’t surprise were Rafa to bring him round, same with Tiote.

    Getting Newcastle back up quite an honourable project for these two to be a part of it must be said. Whether that appeals to players when they are focussed on moving on is perhaps unlikely, but when it looks like they may have to stay, that surely would help grease the wheels.

    But still it is probably more likely one or both will go I suppose.

  • 65 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM

    Welshie

    That is a big maybe mate, maybe he will play better under Rafa, with Sissoko who knows. Under Rafa at the end of last season he was given the captains armband, That was he perfect opportunity to show Rafa what he could do, and show all those CL clubs his leadership qualities…….He failed miserably marra.

    It’s a long way back to the top mate and Sissoko has a lot of hard work coming his way if he wants to make it…That’s if he stays with us like.

    No brainer?

  • 66 welshgeordie9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:50 PM

    bettyswallocks

    I hope not, not being funny but why the frig would he want to go there, Bruce have gone, who’s done a fantastic Job and we just signed their best player, they have got a lot of work to do.

  • 67 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:55 PM

    From The Shields Gazette

    Rafa Benitez feels his Newcastle United side is prepared for the Championship – as they’ve got the knowledge.

    The club kicks off its campaign in English football’s second tier with a fixture against Fulham at Craven Cottage tonight.

    Newcastle have signed eight players this summer, many with Championship experience.

    And United manager Benitez feels his new-look team, which now has a British core with experience of the division, is ready for the rigours of a gruelling 46-game season.

    “We knew the Championship is so difficult,” said Benitez.

    “We needed players with experience of the Championship and of English football, so they knew about the physicality, the importance of every contact. It was important to get players with knowledge of this side of the game.”

    Newcastle’s ultimate goal is promotion back to the Premier League.

    But Benitez – who is still looking for United to sign “two or three” players before the transfer window closes at the end of the month – is refusing to look beyond the Fulham game.

    “The aim is to just beat Fulham – and that is it,” said Benitez, who yesterday allowed Florian Thauvin to rejoin Olympique Marseille on loan.

    “You will listen to this all season – it is one game at a time. It’s the only way.

    “(From) my experience of winning titles, you have to keep going. Sometimes we will make mistakes and we will lose games, but you have to be strong enough to keep going.

    “You cannot lose your confidence after one bad result or be over the moon after one good result. It’s about getting the right balance.”

    Benitez – who has not included new signings Mohamed Diame and Ciaran Clark in his squad – is looking to sign a striker.

    Aston Villa yesterday signed Ross McCormack from Fulham, who was linked with United earlier in ths summer.

    Asked about McCormack’s £12million move, Benitez said: “I don’t like to talk about the players of other teams.

    “We have been analysing the market and it has changed a little bit. At the beginning, we were trying to do things and it was maybe a little easier. We had our ideas and our targets.

    “Then the Premier League clubs have their money and everybody is waiting to see because they have more money and they are able to offer Premier League football.

    “Now everything is more settled down, but you have less options.

    “The prices for the best players are higher. Everybody is asking for so much money.

    “We have done our business really well at the beginning, we have done very well recently and now we are monitoring the market but it’s difficult because there are less players and the ones that are available cost more money.”

    Asked if he would consider taking players on loan from top-flight clubs, he added: “Yes, we are looking at it. We are looking at everything.”

    Meanwhile, Benitez has revealed the story behind the decision to hand summer signing Dwight Gayle the No 9 jersey ahead of Aleksandar Mitrovic.

    “We were going to organise a finishing competition for the No 9,” he said. “In the end, Mitro was telling him to take the No 9.

    “If they both score both will be important. The atmosphere is good, it’s good for them to both want it but after talking with them it was easy. “They understand the main thing is to score goals and be on the pitch.”

  • 68 bettyswallocks // Aug 4, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    Welsh……. Apparently he wants to manage in the PL. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes, there aren’t many PL clubs looking for a manager.

  • 69 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:01 PM

    Rafa Benitez on Kevin Keegan’s ‘amazing’ Newcastle legacy – and how he hopes to emulate it

    Rafa Benitez insists Newcastle United are at the “start” of a journey – but admits he hopes his Magpies can emulate the success of Kevin Keegan’s ‘Entertainers’.

    Former United forward Keegan took charge of the Magpies for the first time in 1992 and, after saving Newcastle from relegation to the third tier in his first season, led the club to promotion the year after.

    Under Keegan, Newcastle were then dramatically pipped to the Premier League title but enjoyed Champions League football as the ex-England manager totally revolutionised the club from top to bottom.

    Benitez is undertaking a similar job at St James’ Park now and, though he is keen to stress that he is still very much in the embryonic stages of his rebuild mission, he is looking to Keegan for inspiration.

    “He did an amazing job here – we have to do that now,” Benitez said of Keegan.

    “But Kevin did it, we have not done it yet.

    “We are at the start.

    “When Real Madrid played against Hamburg during my playing days the Madrid centre-half was marking him [Keegan] and he never touched the ball.

    “I know Kevin and all about what he did here.

    “My first game in England was against Kevin and Man City and we beat them 2-1.

    “I know him as a player and as a manager he was great here.”

    Benitez surprisingly committed to Newcastle this summer despite relegation, so is the former Real Madrid and Liverpool boss only like to remain in situ on Tyneside if the ultimate objective of promotion is delivered?

    “Yes, I want promotion this year,” he explained.

    “I know that gives us a lot of pressure but we have a good team.

    “The main thing is we have good players and we will improve.

    “If we are better than the others now that is easier, but if not we will get better and keep working hard.

    “The most important thing is where we are at the end.

    “No team is promoted in January.”

  • 70 manxpie // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:05 PM

    have none of you seen the sisko pic on twitter?
    and if you still want him to stay ya mental as that face is exactly wat we dont need this season!

  • 71 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM

    Both those interviews give an insight into what Rafa is thinking, if his plans work then it’s all smiles and upwards. This team is defiantly not the entertainers, but that does not mean they will not be entertaining to watch.

    HWTL

  • 72 JamesToon // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    Abel Hernandez apparently has a £12mil euros release clause, should snap him up got 20 goals in 39 games last season, proven goalscorer and would add more pace. Didn’t he say a few years back that he dreamt of playing for either Newcastle or Real Madrid?

  • 73 JamesToon // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

    Rafa says he’s also looking at the loan market, any suggestions? Victor Moses, Luis Alberto?

  • 74 Toon Tang // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    Martoon, its time for you to do me like one of your french girls..

    My predictions are as follows –

    Points: 89
    Position: 2
    MVP: Lascelles
    TGS: Gayle
    TGS Goals: 18
    Lge Cup: 4th round
    FA Cup: 5th round

    Took me all summer break to thrash them badboys out I tell thee.

  • 75 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    Likely to be piffle but!…

    Galatasaray are nearing a deal with Newcastle United full-back Daryl Janmaat according to Turkish football journalist Gokmen Ozdemir.

    Ozdemir – who has close ties to Galatasaray – revealed that the Lions are currently targeting two full-backs in Mathieu Debuchy and Janmaat.

    Galatasaray want to replace full-back Sabri and Linnes over the transfer window as head coach Jan Riekerink has been unimpressed with the state of the defence.

    The Lions conceded five goals last Saturday against Manchester United despite leading 2-1 at half-time and the Dutch coach has made it clear to the board the squad needs defensive reinforcements.

    Janmaat still has another four-years remaining on his current contract but he may consider a move considering the Magpies were relegated to the Championship last season.

  • 76 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    Colback is useless. People who think he’s decent needs their heads testing. He isn’t good enough. He’s the worst midfielder at the club. Abeid was much better.

  • 77 chicousa // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:21 PM

    I think this idea of selling Sissoko to Real Madrid for cash plus a couple players has merit! But the players should be going the other way! If they gave us £25 mil and also took Rivière and Birgi or Gouffy then THAT might work!!! 🙂

  • 78 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:21 PM

    Kets

    Time for your medication lad.

  • 79 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:22 PM

    chicousa

    That’s a bit harsh mate….

    What has Real Madrid done to you?

  • 80 chicousa // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:27 PM

    firebug666
    True that would be cruel to Real Madrid, but it is Rafa that might want to get back at them a bit in this “proposed deal”!

  • 81 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:28 PM

    chicousa

    Aye that’s a fair point marra, get the bags packed and ship them out. 😀

  • 82 chicousa // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:33 PM

    firebug666
    I would drive them all to the airport for free! :0

  • 83 Munster Mag // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:41 PM

    Jail, I got a bet on Gayle today in Dublin. 8/1 was best I could get for top scorer so I stuck the tenner on. Lets hope for a good start tomorrow. Howay the lads.

  • 84 expatmag // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    FIREBUG

    I would imagine Turkey is the last place many players would go to considering their current political plight mate.

  • 85 Tsunki // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:49 PM

    Call Ketsy what you like but Abeid was indeed better than Colback. The mackems were not fussed he came to us and said he looks busy but he has no product. Spot on. Industrious but largely negating. And those stupid shirt pulling fouls in the most critical area of the pitch cost us many a point. He’ll be a decent championship hustler but the minute we get near the premises is the minute he needs to be cut loose. How anybody rates him is beyond comprehension.

  • 86 Tsunki // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    Get near the prem.

  • 87 lukes26 // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    i’ll never understand this blog’s fascination with Abeid.

  • 88 jimmysmith // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:50 PM

    Sissoko won’t fancy the Championship, but a strong and winning Newcastle under Rafa at St James’ a wonderful proposition for anybody. Sissoko will need to be given time to ride out his emotions, but it doesn’t follow at all that he won’t ultimately be on board should he have to stay, and obviously if he isn’t he won’t be playing.

  • 89 SPRINGY // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:52 PM

    dont know if this is old news but galatasary are menat to be close to agreeing a deal for janmaat,according to newsnow

  • 90 SPRINGY // Aug 4, 2016 at 11:52 PM

    meant even#

  • 91 stan anderson // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:01 AM

    I cant believe all the positive people on here.
    We are still owned by Ashley the Slug.
    He is sure to piss on our party.

  • 92 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:04 AM

    tsunki

    colback 14/15 season 4 goals 7 assists
    sisko 14/15 season 4 goals 2 assists

    i posted this the other day he scored the same amount as sisko last season as well so your no product comment is rubbish tbh
    when he was injured last season it was certainly noticed btw so i’d take rafa’s judgement over many many fans especially kets!!

  • 93 jimmysmith // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:07 AM

    Stan, Ashley has serious prior, but when he’s handed over the running of the club to Rafael Benitez and Lee Charnley, and not undermining transfers what’s the point of being a fan if you can’t indulge in a little optimism.

  • 94 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:07 AM

    Manxpie your crap juxtaposition between coalsack and that selective turd Sissoko (Sisko did the Thong Song btw) means exactly nowt. But keep chipping in, it’s hilarious.

  • 95 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:08 AM

    abeid is another famous over egging of a young toon player that has never came off
    kemen another, lets hope armstrong makes it

  • 96 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:09 AM

    Give Stan a little slack, he’s spot on about the owner. He has more than the capacity to step in at any moment and put his stamp on things. We’re hoping he won’t, of course. 😐

  • 97 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:10 AM

    For the record, Abeid wasn’t up to it. But by comparison, he was still better than Colback. He at least knew how to run and pass forwards.

  • 98 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:12 AM

    how does it mean nowt!?
    1 is a defensive player who you said has no product!
    the other is an attacking player valued at 35 mill!!

  • 99 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:14 AM

    tsunki 7 assists means he knows how to pass forwards like but go on, “it’s hilarious”

  • 100 jimmysmith // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:15 AM

    Abeid always looked the part to me, from the moment I saw him. Strong, athletic, compact, mobile, good control and passing, but something obviously was missing. Probably just not quite good enough to win the necessary share of personal battles out there in the epl. Not quite good enough.

  • 101 so-far-king-quick // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:18 AM

    would anyone take a risk on someone like balotelli on loan with an option to buy, hes a world beater of a striker when hes on his game like

  • 102 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:23 AM

    2014-2015 joint second in the “errors leading to conceding goals” with 5 along with the ever lauded Gareth Barry. Jack Colback. And if you don’t understand how comparing with a selective toerag like Sissoko makes no sense, why explain?

  • 103 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:26 AM

    I do enjoy a stat scrap..

  • 104 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM

    Manxpie was his 1 goal and 1 assist last season better than anyone in particular? 🙂

  • 105 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:28 AM

    11 yellows means he’s pulled at more shirts than a public schoolboy.

  • 106 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:29 AM

    it’s Statageddon, tequila.

  • 107 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:31 AM

    can ya post ya source for that tsunki?
    but how many blocks did he make that season i remember quite a few tiote is 10 times worse for silly fouls but gets lauded
    you said he had no product! 11 goals because of him says otherwise regardless of thong man
    let alone his actual job

  • 108 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:31 AM

    Look Manx, I know you’re up for a personal tussle, but I appreciate Colback work rate and his loyalty. All good, I wish him well. But he’s not really good enough for a nufc team going forward.

  • 109 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:33 AM

    I don’t rate tiote either, far too inconsistent. Has really good days, mostly not so great.

  • 110 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:34 AM

    Manxpie could you direct me to a YouTube compilation of Colback worldies? 🙂 I bet none of them are opportunist scuffs and pop shots.

  • 111 El Sleeve // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    Janmaat – meh
    Debuchy – HAHAHAHA, he had everything and then jumped ship

  • 112 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    Colback is the least of our problems. We are chock full of CM bt seem a tad light upfront. Bearing in mind the amount of time or players spend in the Steven Taylor lounge we are still short of at least 2 attacking players .

  • 113 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    tequila its not a stat scrap just tsunki believes colback is crap even tho rafa obviously doesn’t
    so just thought i’d show the fact he can pass forwards and has a product

  • 114 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:37 AM

    https://www.whoscored.com/Players/69867

    “Gets fouled often” hmm wonder why? Surely not because of his dithering and facing his own half in possession?

  • 115 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:37 AM

    Fcked up u on the keypad

  • 116 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:38 AM

    i’m not up for a personal tussle i just found your comment about colback having no product rubbish which is wat i said its you who seemed to be up for a tussle with your reply!

  • 117 Tsunki // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:39 AM

    Anyhooooo up early in the morning so off to beeed

  • 118 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:40 AM

    I think Colback is OK Manx. Not a world beater but at this level he will have a good season.

  • 119 Mister Tuff // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:43 AM

    oooh oooh a personal tussle sounds exciting.

    ooh oooh.

  • 120 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:45 AM

    Does it Mr T? You need to get out more mate

  • 121 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:48 AM

    tsunki yeah that will be it not that he’s in the middle of the pitch contesting everything for 90 mins i thought it was the other way round in your mind tho??

    tequila i have never said he was a world beater but i would bet me life if we had 11 colbacks on the pitch last season we wouldn’t have gone down lol

    wat really gets my goat is the support for players that have done nothing for us and then sheer right offs for the players that actually do and at the very least put 100% in every game

  • 122 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:49 AM

    anyways where have you been tequila its been a while hasn’t it?

  • 123 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:55 AM

    tuff i think your looking for the ladies wrestling!

  • 124 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:56 AM

    I blame Kets for chucking in his crazy grenade.
    Tsunki is a decent judge most of the time.Diff of opinion, No big deal mate,

  • 125 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:00 AM

    Been pretty busy.I usually check in every couple of days to see what the blog mood is but I just got bored having the same pointless arguments with the same pointless people.

  • 126 Mister Tuff // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:04 AM

    manx – you boys having a disagreement when debating players and introducing your handbags is a damn sight better than launching abuse and hatred and vitriol like some do.
    A robust debate – not nastiness and hatred is what it’s all about.

  • 127 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:06 AM

    well kets is certainly a different breed without doubt lol
    but tsunki’s reaction to my post wasn’t called for imo
    as it was well only my opinion and backed it up with stats that showed he had a product
    but i was supposedly looking for a ruck??
    but ah well
    maybe he can blame it on pokat

  • 128 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:12 AM

    tuff i agree but without the handbags lol
    a debate is wat keeps this blog alive otherwise it would just be G2 from around 4pm till 10 and thats it
    but seriously i find the hate for dummett and colback crazy and thats just my opinion and i’ll argue it

  • 129 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:14 AM

    Well I heard he has been hitting the bottle pretty hard since he split withe Belfast.

  • 130 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:21 AM

    ah right i just haven’t seen ya about in a while have ya made ya predictions?
    i got drawn into a pardew debate the other night that actually started from me talking about martinez lol
    so i know wat ya mean

  • 131 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:30 AM

    No predictions from me. Over confidence is one of the biggest dangers. Lots of changes and all either needed or unavoidable but we still have no real idea of how the new signings will pan out.
    Will feel a bit more relaxed once we get a new striker and winger in.

  • 132 RolandoOverhead // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:35 AM

    Negative opinions of players generally stem from 1 simple thing.
    The player in question does something, and they do it often, and for whatever reason they don’t ever seem to learn to stop doing it.
    With Colback that 1 thing is grabbing players shirts to tackle, I mean it is football not rugby!
    With Tiote it’s dithering with the ball, usually when there’s a simple pass on but he makes the wrong choice. We’ve all seen it, many times and even when he gets out of jail you’re still left cursing him for being a dick.

    The issue is that if these 2 individuals learned to stop doing their cock-ups, they’d be nailed on to play, we’d concede far fewer free-kicks in dangerous areas, it would relieve a lot of pressure from the defence and would be far tougher to break down.

  • 133 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:35 AM

    yeah a couple of wingers now actually we can’t rely on aarons and please god a LW that is actually good and can deal with english footy
    we need the sisko money now tho i feel so hopefully the market starts moving soon

  • 134 tequilamag // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:43 AM

    Ant way mate im out of here got be up way too soon, Catch you later

  • 135 manxpie // Aug 5, 2016 at 1:45 AM

    rolando people seem to forget they do just as much good things tho it is the nature of their job thats why there is the term midfield battle
    look at the greats in cm they all gave silly reckless fouls it’s in there nature
    keane the king of it but one of the best in that generation
    i’m not saying that colback is anywhere close to him but that is wat happens in every game in that position

  • 136 chicousa // Aug 5, 2016 at 2:03 AM

    It seems to me that Rafa tipped his hand a bit when he said yesterday re: trade offers for Sissoko: “If he goes, hopefully it will be the right price for us — but if he stays I will be delighted.”. To my mind he is saying an offer that is somewhat less than the “right price” could be accepted, but he is still hoping for a full price offer (£35 mil or so). But he would be delighted if Moussa stayed (and decided to give NUFC his full commitment!). Baring a fully motivated Sissoko, management might be willing to negotiate the price…

  • 137 RolandoOverhead // Aug 5, 2016 at 2:18 AM

    Manx you’re missing my point.

    Yes it’s the nature of the position (CM) that rash challenges will occur, but that is not the same as consistently making the same challenge, with your hands when you know fine well it will be penalised, yet do it anyway.
    That is a mentality thing, it’s a habit which needs breaking.
    Just as learning to make the pass instead of trying to, play too much in an area where you can ill afford to.

    If a goalkeeper was the best shot stopper in the world, yet gave away 1-2 penalties every match, would they be seen as a being a fantastic keeper or a liability?

    And as my post began, it’s that 1 thing they consistently do wrong, which overshadows the good things they do, because to be honest they’re professionals and are paid to do those good things and paid handsomely to boot.

  • 138 jimmysmith // Aug 5, 2016 at 4:34 AM

    Tiote occasionally turns the wrong way in possession and gets caught out, but all DM players do this, unless they’re Pirlo, it’s such a congested part of the pitch, but perhaps Tiote a little more often than you’d like. He’s a ball winner, and give and go player, and a big physical presence and a really top player when in form.

  • 139 Nufc-83 // Aug 5, 2016 at 6:50 AM

    Team I would like to see:

    Sels

    Jaanmatt. Mbemba. Lascelles Gamez

    Hayden. Shelvey

    Richie. Perez. Aarons

    Gayle

    Team that I think will start

    Sels

    Jaanmatt Hanley lascelles Dummett

    Hayden Anita/coldback

    Richie. Perez. Aarons

    Gayle

    Not sure on Anita or coldback or Hanley Mbemba and possible surprise with Anita out wide and Aarons on the bench.

  • 140 firebug666 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:17 AM

    Further to that story I posted last night @ 75 Janmaat is going nowhere.

    This is a quote from this mornings Shields Gazette “We’re looking forward now. I will give everything for Newcastle.”

    Nice to have that bit of commitment from a player who was expected to leave.

  • 141 Nufc-83 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM

    Great news Jaanmatt will be one of our best players and rip up the championship.

  • 142 firebug666 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:21 AM

    A bit from our new Captain too in the Chronicle today.

    Newcastle have lost 10 of their last 12 competitive away matches, but Lascelles insists he does not “fear” the challenge of turning that around – particularly given the dramatic overhaul of the squad carried out by Benitez this summer.

    “I don’t fear it at all – I’ve not even thought about it [the appalling away form],” Lascelles explained.

    “We’re Newcastle United; we’ve got to go into every game thinking we’re going to win.

    “We can’t get complacent and take our foot off the gas because the Championship’s a hard league.

    “We can’t look at the opposition and think: ‘Ah Fulham can do this, or that.’

    “We’ve just got to concentrate on our job and go to every game and have the right attitude in every match.”

    Lascelles had appeared a shoo-in for the captaincy, but official confirmation has only just arrived.

    And the former England Under-21 international could not hide his delight that has now been made public knowledge.

    “A very proud moment,” he admitted.

    “I’ve been getting little hints and stuff in pre-season, a few players have said it to me, and the manager’s been asking me a few questions – probably to test me – but it’s announced now so I’m really pleased.

    “The majority of the fans have been wanting me to be captain so I’m really pleased that they’ve found out as well.

    “He’s [the managers’] been asking me questions in and around the training ground.

    “I’m 22 years of age playing with senior players and experienced players so to handle what’s gone on, he’s put a lot of trust into me.”

  • 143 Ron Knee // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:26 AM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost tonight – opening night jitters and all that – but I do expect a comfortable win over Huddersfield.

  • 144 firebug666 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:28 AM

    I find it much better when our captain gets his messages out to the fans via press interviews, rather than the open letter to fans that Colloccini favoured.

    I think this boy is going to do well, and keep that arm band for many years to come.

  • 145 lochinvar // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:31 AM

    Lascalles – with this sort of positive attitude and presence on the pitch the team will have a Captain to fight for and that will be good to see and hear. With 7000 plus ( no doubt some exiles in London will sneak in as well ) fans at Craven Cottage the team can play with authority.
    No more sleeps now ( Siestas apart ) until kick off or should that be lift off , the countdown has started.

  • 146 martoon // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:31 AM

    Morning guys – final call for predictions – for anybody who doesn’t know we are predicting:

    Final League Position
    Final no. of points
    League Cup round
    FA Cup round
    Player of the Season (Blog)
    Top goal scorer (TGS)
    No. of goals for TGS

    So far I have predictions from:
    martoon
    clinath@ed
    StuW
    JamesToon
    SUTTY1978
    Average_Contents
    Spoof
    firebug666
    Belfast
    Bambams
    JP…from The Rock
    Goromagpie
    ShirebrookToon
    SPRINGY
    Offkey
    JAMSHA
    geordie157
    toontaff2
    Our Toon
    manxpie
    Jail for Ashley
    welshgeordie9
    YoungMagpieFromBurnley
    dannitoon
    Tsunki
    jimmysmith
    Termijn
    Charlie in the Gallowgate
    jasper
    Mag52
    nico
    bosamuelson
    outside the box
    funlovingexpress
    ROSHAN MAGPIE
    YouCouldn’tMakeItUp
    one fine day
    southeast magpie
    WWSBRD
    Fatman_joe
    RolandoOverhead
    nut meg
    The overrated Frenchman
    Bearsize
    Oleg G
    Very Terry
    Essex Geordie Bill
    Jib
    CAC
    The American
    BoyNUFC
    emperor
    Budge123
    G
    Toon_Tom
    sparky55
    Rafa Revolution
    MadisonToon
    Back Door Man
    toon kk
    the white tino
    Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    bettyswallocks
    Kabul Fish
    Toon fm Exeter
    Matt
    Teamstoof
    lewisnufc
    Spotlight Kid
    barkel
    totsy
    roblee7
    expatmag
    mickybraham
    thatmatt
    Toonboy
    sirjasontoon
    TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa
    Legolas
    Hail Wor Ashley
    Mister Tuff
    Yo-yo
    dok – the horrid colonial
    magscar
    loonie-toon
    north_country_boy
    Fostino
    Setchell
    geordiesteve520
    jane
    archaeomag
    mad-serb
    El Sleeve
    Jammy-D
    Blofal
    Munster Mag
    ScoopSouthAfrica
    OneAlanShearer
    off the ball
    Oldgit1
    The one and Ayoze 17
    Shot Bru
    Laurent Robert 32
    Wayayman
    Bobbybee
    lochinvar
    Novocastrian66
    danf98
    giimps
    edtheduck
    even the stevens
    Obafan
    simon376
    sussextoon
    gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)
    GeordieTwo
    Hugh Jorgan
    B1GSTEVE
    kikgras
    The Ghost of St.James
    Magpie Myles
    U.S Magpie
    chicousa
    Lilongwe Geordie
    hibbitt
    brklyngeordie
    Harley
    swemag
    always look on the bright side of life
    GloucesterGeordie
    Spacepyramids
    TyneMouth
    ToonRich
    yorkshire_magpie
    Sazzer
    Goodfella
    Vask
    Toon Tang

    Sorry if I’ve missed you but if so just repost – don’t forget to put martoon in the post so I can find it.

  • 147 firebug666 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:33 AM

    Ron

    you just go and wash your mouth out with soap and water 😀

    I think a comfortable win tonight. I really do think we will be in control of this game. Our players will remain calm and after the initial onslaught from Fulham we will gain control and win by 2 goals.

    Fulham have promised to come at us all guns blazing, Well not for 90 minutes they won’t, and if they get to gung ho they will make plenty of mistakes.

    Have faith mate this game is ours.

  • 148 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:34 AM

    Ron Knee@143: Anything other than unbridled optimism is frowned upon on this blog. “Think before you open yer gob” would be, I believe the typical response from one of blog luminaries/regime apologists if they saw this sort of negativity. Just a word to the wise. (I’ve tipped the draw)

  • 149 Ron Knee // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:36 AM

    firebug

    I hope you’re right – obviously! I don’t think, though, that Rafa has got his ‘best’ team assembled yet. He’s said as much himself.

  • 150 Ron Knee // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:43 AM

    ToF

    I’m trying to give the blog a little dose of anti-hubris!

  • 151 firebug666 // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:43 AM

    Ron

    Aye, but looking at what we have available I think that is more than enough to see off Fulham.

    London is not normally a happy hunting ground for us and I understand other people doubts, but I just think these players are now ready to step up, and fight for the club, they now have desire and pride in fact all the things that have been missing for the past five years or more are flooding back.

    This team has been singled out as the team to beat, every other teams cup final, our lads know this and will as Rafa says take it one game at a time, and look to win it.

    Getting excited for tonight. and that feels much better than the depression that use to set in before a match.

    HWTL

  • 152 magscar // Aug 5, 2016 at 7:56 AM

    TOF@148

    I don’t think the optimism is confined to the Blog as there are a lot of half glass full supporters (and pundits/journo’s) around generally.

    Pre-season is traditionally the time for optimism for all supporters and for most within a couple of games reality once again dawns.

    Just because we have bought well, have one of best managers in game here, rebalanced the squad, are still looking for up to 3 more players and have lost most of the Negativity around the team shouldn’t let us think it is all over.

    It isn’t but we are on the threshold of a possible new world not seen since KK first time around and Rafa sees the same. Only hard work and concentration on pitch from start to finish can with us fans totally behind them can get us there. We need optimism to get us going and make the crowd believe – bring on the flags!

  • 153 Moonraker15 // Aug 5, 2016 at 8:26 AM

    Martoon
    My late predictions:
    1st
    95 pts
    4th Rd
    6th Rd
    Ritchie
    Gayle (tgs)
    24 goals

  • 154 MidlandsMag // Aug 5, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    Martoon

    Here are my predictions:

    Final league position: 1st
    Final points: 115
    League Cup Round: Don’t bother
    FA Cup round: Winners
    Player of the season: Isaac Hayden
    Top goal scorer: Dwight Gayle
    Number of goals: 23




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