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This Is Bad News For Newcastle

12:34 pm, Thursday, August 25th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

After the game on Tuesday night when both Aleksandar Mitrovic and Dwight Gayle were taken off with concussions – Miro in the first half – Rafa said he thought the two of them would be OK for Saturday’s important game against Brighton.

Both of them are in fact fit to play, but they cannot because of new FA guidelines on concussions recently introduced – and those injuries have to be handled very carefully these days.

The FA guidelines state that any player who suffers a concussion must wait for six days before they can play again.

dwight gayle scores the winner

Dwight Gayle – cannot play on Saturday

So both strikers cannot play in Saturday’s night’s important game against promotion candidates Brighton & Hove Albion.

Dr. Paul Catterson, Newcastle’s head of sports medicine and science said this:

“The treatment and management of concussion in sport has received deserved attention in recent years.”

“We have to adhere to the guidelines set out by the FA in line with other competitive sports, which rightly puts the safety and health of players first.”

The way to think about this is that Dwight and Aleksandar’s long term mental health is a lot more important than missing just one game – Dr. Catterson is absolutely right.

It’s unfortunate, so who is going to score the goals for us on Saturday – Diame and Perez?

Some players are going to have to step up to the plate for us – maybe even Yoan Gouffran – who seems to have some of his confidence back?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Aleksandar Mitrovic · Championship · Dwight Gayle · Injuries · Newcastle News




82 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Readingmag // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:37 PM

    So if the club (or another independent ) Dr says they are fit to play, they cannot. Worlds gone daft.

  • 2 Wandering Geordie // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Devastating news.Time for Perez to don his lucky bandage

  • 3 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Start Perez because he currently has shooting boots, and bring Arma on later.
    Stick with shelvey and hayden
    Richie diame and gouf behind Perez
    Back four as v bristol but bring yedlin on

  • 4 Termijn // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    I personally was excited when we signed Cabella. It was a shame how it turned out, but I blame Pardew’s negative tactics more than Cabella’s suitability. I think under the right manager he would have been a success.

  • 5 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    I knew we should have kept Nile Ranger…

  • 6 DaraghL // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:41 PM

    Disappointing news as if we are to challenge for promotion Brighton will likely be one of those in our way.

    At least Ayoze goes into the game on the back of a brace.

    —————————————————————-
    Off topic, Paul Huntington just got a contract extension at Preston. Always good to hear players who didn’t make the cut doing well. I’ll never forget his goal against Spurs. What a rollercoaster season that was.

  • 7 Ron Knee // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    And for Manu Rivière, Opportunity Knocks!

  • 8 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:44 PM

    I was under the impression that the FA’s standing on this was an advisory position with a suggested best practice. Still, better to put the players health first imo. The guidelines also state about 2 concussions in a season, Mitro’s haven’t come in 1 season, but they may take extra precautions with him given it was only April when he last had the problem.

    Not to mention that some former US sports star is suing over mismanagement by his club of head injuries. If he wins, then most clubs will take extra care when dealing with these issues.

  • 9 Our Toon // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    There was a big clamour for cabella on this blog from those that claimed he was like Arfa but worked harder and more consistent. That’s the impression I got, would be interesting to read the comments

    I sure janmaat was being championed to be voted for captain on here as well after his first season

  • 10 Our Toon // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    All for a run in the cup, I hope we don’t take cups seriously as we are up against a side who will be up there come the end of the season, we’ve managed to give them good news by having our striking duo out injured

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Rotonda,
    We moved for Payet, but he was too expensive. We were linked with Kante, and there were rumours around that Mahrez was on Carrs radar but would need an adjustment period. Funnily enough, all three of them are with Mondial.

  • 12 hibbitt // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    tbh not even mitro would have started gayle will be the big miss

  • 13 hibbitt // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:53 PM

    does Ashley have money in Mondial that would explain a lot ??

  • 14 Novocastrian66 // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM

    DaraghL; I always liked Huntington, I thought he would have made it big time.

  • 15 Jail for Ashley // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/01/22/newcastle-sign-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-five-and-a-half-year-deal/
    Rotonda, are you sure there were doubts on here about Mbwia, 570 posts suggest otherwise.

  • 16 Novocastrian66 // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Cannot see how a six day break will improve Mitrovic’s mental health, he’s a nut job already. 🙂
    New names for Gayle and Mitrovic; Dazed and Confused.

  • 17 Macas // Aug 25, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Cabella’s work rate was actually very good and he had the ability to beat a man, the big problem was that his end product was poor. Would have been tempted to give him a second season to see if he improved. Always going to be some transfers that don’t come off, the big mistake was replacing him Thauvin, a player who had had a very poor season before we signed him.
    Very worried the way this transfer window is shaping up, a big emphasis on signing defenders when the real problem is the lack of attacking options, something that has been made even worse by the large number of players we have shipped out.

  • 18 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    To be fair Mick Lowes called those injuries right immediately on Tuesaday night.

  • 19 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    You only have to look at the last 20 years of Muhammad Ali’s life or Ray Kennedy’s to see how repeated head trauma can lead to later problems like Parkinson’s.

  • 20 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    Mick was right indeed.

  • 21 SPRINGY // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:10 PM

    Jib
    He also said gayle was holding his groin before he went off,ando said he got hit in the bollicks so i hope ando is right and its not his groin thats keeping him from playing sat coz if it is…it maybe more then one game.

  • 22 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    There’s a good documentary about head injuries in American sports. I think it’s called Head Games. I watched it a while back. Sure there’s another one as well.

    It’s good that precaution is taken I reckon.

  • 23 posada // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    In an earlier post I described King Tut aka Riviere as a complete and utter knacker.
    Would be strange if this situation gets him a start and he bags a hat trick.
    To do so he would have to increase his goals for NUFC by 400%.
    Would have to serve some sort of penance as a consequence.
    Any suggestions.

  • 24 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    These precautions not confined to football either. In MLB if a batter cops one on the helmet (on his head) he’s pulled from the game then and there even if he seems fine, or so it appears to be. Wonder if we’ll see that in cricket?

  • 25 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    I hope Gouffran does get a chance up top. No surprise that him and Anita have improved under a proper manager in a shirt space of time compared to the tactical shambles of previous years.

  • 26 Toon XI // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Yikes. That’s the kind of news that’ll give you s headache. 😉

  • 27 Oldgit1 // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    This does highlight a shortage of strikers at our club. We have only replaced Cissi with gayle so we are no better off in numbers.

    It would appear that Riviera is not wanted but thought he should have played on Tuesday night at least give him a go as he is still being paid, rather than risk our only two strikers.

    Please please Rafa sign a couple more strikers even one isn’t enough.

  • 28 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    If Rafa gets one more ‘bigger name’, along with, say, Gouffran who is flexible as a forward, I think that would cover 4.

  • 29 Harley // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:47 PM

    Darlow

    Gamez, mbemba, lasc, dummet

    Hayden, Shelvey

    Ritchie, Diame, Goufran

    Perez

    My team.

  • 30 Jan Stavik // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:50 PM

    Why not put Sissoko up front?
    He’s so big headed these days that I’m sure a couple of Ritchies crosses would hit his forehead and end up in the net

  • 31 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Out and out forwards:
    Gayle
    Mitro

    Versatile who can play the up top:
    Perez
    Gouffran

    Young back up :
    Arma

    Can we get away with that this season, or should we buy another CF? It would mean Arma would be loaned out i think, if we did buy one.

  • 32 G // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    I would play Rivi, or at least put him on the bench for this one. If nowt else his pace would be useful. Whilst I never thought of him as a top flight player, he could be very useful at this level. Even Gouffran looks good down here.

  • 33 Toonces // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    It will be interesting to understand if the players in fact suffered concussions or if they took simply a blow to the head and were removed in the case a concussion may have been suffered. NFL and NHL in North America have a concussion protocol where players are removed the dressing room for 15 minutes or so to determine if a concussion was in fact suffered. They can return to the game if they pass the tests. The problem of course with football is that once you sub out you can’t sub back in. But if the players passed concussion protocol tests after being removed from the game, in essence determining that the head injury was not a concussion, would they still need to adhere to the 6 day FIFA guideline? I am all for player safety, but if the player is assessed to not have a suffered a concussion after being removed as a precaution, then surely they must be allowed to play if they were cleared. Now if the doctors said a concussion has in fact been suffered then by all means rest them according to the protocol. It will be interesting to see how this is handled when a big star in a PL or UCL match takes a knock on the head. Will you see the doctors pulling players? Will Jose throw a fit when the doctors rush on the field because Smalling knocks heads with De Gea after they have used their 3 subs? Hmmm.

  • 34 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Aug 25, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    Termijn

    people forget how many times cabella was the best player on the pitch by a long shot and how many assists he would have had playing on a better team.

  • 35 geordie157 // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    I’d like to see Perez and Armstrong up top but likely it’ll be one up so Perez I guess.

    For me this will be our toughest home game of the season, Hughton has them well organised, hard to beat and they can mix it up.

    Wonder if Riviere comes into contention.

    Stick young heardman up top, that’ll surprise them!

  • 36 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Jail

    Just read the link you put on, not all of it as it’s too long, but I think it was safe to say that most were delighted to see Mbiwa coming, I have to admit that I was as well as I saw him as a replacement for Colo, I never saw his as a partner for Colo as they would be way to small as a pairing, but like so many I was wrong as he didn’t just struggle here he has struggled everywhere he’s been since leaving us, he really was/is a dreadful defender.

  • 37 Toonces // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    Just saw the official team news that they were both confirmed to have suffered concussions. Will still be interesting to see how this plays out in high profile games with high profile players and managers.

  • 38 toon kk // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    There’s a high possibility that either Mitrovic or Gayle or both could be injured for a long period (hopefully not) and we need the correct players into cover. Gayle is our only consistent goal scorer. We’d finish in the bottom half of the table without him, no goals no points.

  • 39 hibbitt // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:14 PM

    what else did your crystal ball say
    Cabella best player on the pitch

    another dreamer

  • 40 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Not sure how we are going to handle this Brighton game without both Mitro and Gayle, not sure that Perez has enough strength to handle the single striker role, possibly have him on the left with Gouffran as the lone striker, Armstrong won’t get in, Rafa has been so impressed with Armstrong that even without the suspended Mitro Armstrong has still gone back to the under 23’s, Riviere can’t be ruled out as a lone striker as he at least hold’s the ball up well and brings others into the game, I think it may be Riviere as Rafa does seem to appreciate the work ethic of Gouffran on the left, the question then is does Perez get left out or play a central role with Hayden, Shelvey, Diame and Colback fighting for the two deeper midfield roles with Ritchie on the right, or will Perez be benched with Diame further forward and Hayden, Colback and Shelvey battling for the remaining two places, personally I feel for such a tough game Rafa will go for a harder working side with a bit more bite so Perez even after bagging a brace will be left out.

  • 41 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    toon kk

    as far as I am aware it is only a six day period that is required after a concussion, if the Brighton game was a Monday night match then they would be available, Rafa said on Wednesday that they are fine and it is FA rules alone which is keeping them out so where you get the idea that they could be out for a long period is a mystery to me, unless of course there has been some news which I have missed !

  • 42 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:27 PM

    I’d definitely like to see Armstrong involved, but if he’s going out on loan it might be unlikely.

    Perez and Gouffran are capable players if playing well, so it’s not like we don’t have anyone at all.

  • 43 Blofal // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Without our strikers to break them down we will have to try and hit them on the counter with some pace.

    ——————Darlow
    Gamez – Mbemba – Lascelles – Dummett
    ——–Anita – Shelvey – Hayden
    Armstrong——Perez——-Ritchie

    Bench: Sels, Gouffran, Diame, Sterry, Yedlin, Henley, Clarke

  • 44 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Lauren

    I get the impression that Rafa doesn’t rate him, I may be wrong and he gets a chance but seeing that he was basically demoted to the under 23’s even when M itro was still suspended doesn’t bode well for him in my eyes.

  • 45 Hail Wor Ashley // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    Got to laugh at some of the comments on Twitter.

    Just read that the game is already over against Brighton and that this person would be stunned if we even get a point, now Mitro and Gayle are out.

    Swivel-headed loons! Go on like we’re about to face Bayern, not Brighton. Even if it was Bayern, I wouldn’t have such an attitude.

    I predict a 3-0 win.

  • 46 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    Spoof, yes. He may just feel like he’s not ‘ready’ rather than doesn’t fancy him. We’ll just have to see over time.

  • 47 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    Roland Aarons out for 4 to 6 weeks
    Scans have shown it is yet more bad news for the winger, with a fractured metatarsal shown to be the outcome of his injury against Cheltenham.

  • 48 Our Toon // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Cabella the king of a pointless stepover….slowed down an attack

  • 49 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:37 PM

    WHOOPS 8 to 10 WEEKS out
    Rolando Aarons has been revealed.

    Scans have shown it is yet more bad news for the winger, with a f the injury tofractured metatarsal shown to be the outcome of his injury against Cheltenham.

  • 50 toon kk // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:37 PM

    Spoof
    I meant if they unfortunately pick up a injury in the future, and are out for some time. Can we rely on Perez and Gouffran? I think they are decent squad players for the championship but cutting edge in front of goal? I’m not so sure. As for Mitrovic he still has a lot to prove. Can he finish like Gayle? In word No.

  • 51 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:39 PM

    Blofal

    To hit teams on the break your opponents will have to come at you and leave space behind for us to break into, will Brighton come at us, even without our two main strikers I would still expect them to keep it tight and compact, a draw for them would be seen as a good result, I cannot see them going for our jugular.

  • 52 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    Laurent

    Yeah, that could be the case.

    toon kk

    Fair enough, and it does seem that Rafa is trying to add a bit more depth up front.

  • 53 Mister Tuff // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Sternest test so far will be on Saturday against Brighton. We are still building the team -still incomplete at the moment.
    With our two forwards banned re concussions I fear we may get well beaten. Hope not though.

    Observations re concussions.
    Saturday to Saturday games -no problem -players will be available.
    I fancy that the only way “around” this is for the player to swear blind he was not concussed at the time -and says as much to the team doctor.
    Will club doctors stick to their hippocratic oath or bend towards club pressures not to mention the “c” word.
    Possible that players -especially in the Championship will not be displaying potential head bumps this season.

  • 54 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:52 PM

    lilo

    i take it all back. carr is an amazing scout with an entirely blameless record.

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    jail

    M’Biwa is a ball playing CB who was never going to go down well with AP’s direct, negative football. some of those players on the deemed ”failure” list may have had very different outcomes with proper managers in charge, but carr should have seen that.

  • 56 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    Assuming Rafa opts for his favoured 4-2-3-1
    Goalie ?
    Dummett
    Lascelles
    M’Bemba
    Anita/Yedlin
    Colback/Anita
    Shelvey
    Diamé
    Ritchie
    Gouffran
    Perez

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2016 at 2:59 PM

    didn’t see the game but were cheltenham ultra physical? 2 concussed, perez in a bandage and aarons back to his usual sickbay environment for 8 weeks! smacks of a very lenient ref.

  • 58 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    lilo

    Was payet more expensive than thauvin and cabella? what’s that about mahrez needing an adjustment period, even though he only cost 400k and was very low risk, but it was ok for Thauvin to come for millions.

  • 59 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Rotondo
    I was there – it wasn’t a dirty game just unfortunate circumstances.
    Aarons – their guy stood on or kicked Aaron’s foot.
    Perez – as he was tackled – perez fell and the guy tried to jump over him and caught his ear
    Mitro – Defending corner – came of worst in clash of heads
    Gayle – Clash of heads when trying to get on the end of a cross/corner – again came off second best

  • 60 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    I think everyone talking about long term effects of concussion are missing the point of immediate medical necessity. It seems there aren’t many here that have even done basic first aid because they would know that a brain swelling does not immediately subside, and like most injuries a similar injury compounds the effects of the first and can lead to very serious deterioration. No doubt long term litigious aspects are being warily eyed, but it makes complete sense to rest them until they are fit again, not even training with headers. We’ll manage, and if we don’t, we don’t. So if Perez isn’t wearing a rubber hat, it’s him and Diame again with Goofy lurking thereabouts. Could be worse.

    Moving on then to Riviere, there seems to be a rolling bandwagon that suggests he is a completely useless pantomime buffoon but I recall he was pretty good taking the ball with his back to a defender, quite strong and not bad with close passing and approach play. Yes, he’s scuffed his only opportunities but in the brief glimpses we saw he at least got himself into position better than we’ve seen from a forward here for some time. I think this is the league to give him a few chances. it’s not like we’ve got much choice is it?

  • 61 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM

    Rotonda

    MYM only lasted a season at Roma !
    He’s now back in France with Lyon.

    Ligue 1 is clearly his level .

    I know no opportunity to bash Pardew can be passed up – but MYM couldn’t hack it – nothing to do with coaching or selection.

  • 62 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    Charlie – it was a surreal night wasn’t it? You’d think it was a blood and guts Derby the way the bandages were being rolled out like bog paper! It was more like a kick about really I can’t remember any really horrible tackles, the Robins seemed to be rough but fair if say. I thought they just yet being at SJP – rightly so too ha ha

  • 63 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    ..just enjoyed being at SJP

  • 64 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:10 PM

    I we’ve a tough month coming up 6 league games 1 league cup game and 1 International-
    If we can come out of the end of September in the top six or eight – should set us up well for the season

    Fixtures
    27th August Brighton A
    International
    10th Sept Derby A
    13 QPR A
    17th Wolves H
    24 Aston Villa A
    Norwich H

    plus the League Cup to fit in- tough run of fixtures!!!!!!!
    1

  • 65 Hail Wor Ashley // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:10 PM

    Riviere has live salmon for feet. Useless.

  • 66 Mister Tuff // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    More assumptions/inventions again about Pops Carr.
    Great assumptions suggesting he signed all these players without any input from anybody else.
    How do we know he did not suggest potential super stars and they were knocked back by either Mr Tubbs or Penfold and that players way down Carrs’ list were selected because of a low price.

  • 67 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    MYM had that Bramble-esque ability to look good for long periods then switch off at crucial moments. it’s a concentration thing maybe.

  • 68 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:15 PM

    The old Autonomous Carr argument again eh? I’m sure Carrs suggestions were allocated their colour codes then sanctioned according to Charnleys budget, a framework and remit handed down from the Big Cheese. it’s not even worth mentioning the hapless dupes in the coaching position, they got what they were given.

  • 69 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:16 PM

    I’ve got no problem with Carr. It’s all well and good in hindsight, but some of the players who we’ve been heavily linked with are very good players. A divvy manager hasn’t helped things in the past.

    We don’t know what sort of stop Lambeezy and Penfold put on them in previous years, but they definitely limited the quality.

    People like Vertonghen, PEA, Cabaye, Toby Alderweireld, Remy, Debuchy – off the top of my head. Even Gameiro got goals at PSG, Sevilla, and now Atletico. Giroud plays for Arsenal, and Gervinho did as well/

    You could make a very good one out of the ones we’ve been heavily linked with and did get – forget about the lesser ones as they would be benched anyway.

    We don’t know who was Carr’s top three picks for that position. A better owner may have brought the top picks in.

    Poorer players who haven’t worked out are there at every club.

    People on here were in awe that we could never attract Sissoko, M’Biwa was captain and had just won the league. Anita, De Jong, and Janmaat have all been Dutch internationals.

    If you can’t sign these sorts of players, then I don’t know what their credentials are supposed to be.

    Hindsight is easy, buying at the time is not.

  • 70 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Tsunki
    The whole atmosphere game was surreal.
    the colours vivid green pitch the lights the pink pink sky
    1st half outplayed
    non disrupt tackles head clashes that we came off second best
    and their 250 fans were absolute brilliant

    strawberry half empty

    even the video Cheltenham shot that was shown on hear yesterday had a surreal feel to it.

    Yet I enjoyed it in a funny way

  • 71 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Tuff, Tsunki, I agree on Carr.

  • 72 Hail Wor Ashley // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Mbiwa put in a stonking performance when we robbed Spurs 1-0, alongside Willo at CB and Krul. He’d rarely played CB for us until then. Remy getting the goal early, our only shot on target I think to their 20+ barrage to come, after Pardew did his usual retreat after going 1 up.

    Next match he was dropped for a returning Colo and that was pretty much the end of him in a NUFC shirt. Can’t remember anything notable after that.

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM

    Rotonda,
    Howay man, it was never Carr’s job to find players to suit the manager, it was his job to find players under 25 who might turn a tidy profit and you know it. Graham Carr is not solely responsible for the failed modus operandi we have been using this last five years.

  • 74 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    Rotonda- Some three and a half seasons ago I suggested the purchase of a few Brits – Mark Noble and James Tomkins for a combined fee of £ 8 million.
    You scathingly dismissed the suggestion on the grounds of not good enough and Pardew products. You have been obsessed with all things Dutch at a time when the football world at large recognised that they were experiencing a period of decline. Likewise with managers Martinez the panacea of all our ills and Pochettino as not having the right pedigree just prior to Southampton. Last season when he was being spoken of as the bees knees you started constantly hailing him.
    Don’t take my word for it- Betty, Munster and others have commented on the trait.
    You need to rethink. Just for once try playing the ball and not the man.

  • 75 Spoof // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:25 PM

    Tuff

    That may well be the case, and he may have suggested world beaters that were overlooked, but we don’t know if that was the case so we can only judge on what we actually see and what we see from Carr’s signings is not good, yes others may have had an influence and a say but he was the man in charge of transfers so he is the one who has to face the music, that’s the way the world works !

  • 76 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    Could I have some of what Charlie’s been smoking please ?

    “Tangerine trees and marmalade skies “

  • 77 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:27 PM

    Or dropping

  • 78 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Hail- I remember him as not being very strong, good in the air. He was quick but took seemed not to have a football brain and positional sense.

  • 79 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Ian / carl / pushy, how’s your pen-pal doing with his own signings at Palace?

    You could have had Messi and he’d have been been asked to play full-back.

  • 80 Tsunki // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    Wasn’t it a MYM and Willo pairing the went on a solid unbeaten run only for older curly brow to waltz straight back in and fixed what wasn’t broke? He probably gave up after being dropped in preference to Iron Mike

  • 81 Jib // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:35 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxHr4ezhOMs

  • 82 magscar // Aug 25, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    We have been linked in press with many players but how accurate are those links?

    How many of them have there been this summer – enough for at least 3 squads.

    Truth is we don’t know how many superstars Carr may have identified but not purchased but what we undoubtedly can see is that too many of his recommendations which became purchases were not suitable for PL at all.

    I’ll leave you to make your own lists but we will no doubt come up with similar lists of “failures”.

    I keepon returning to the question why were they even on his list at all. Doesn’t matter if they were 3rd or 10th. They have to be suitable players not just list fillers.

    Even if they were bought purely as ” sell on at a profit” buys as being the determining factor (as some speculate) then surely they need to be capable of being a success at PL to be able to realise a profit.

    Far too many haven’t withhis successes not seemingly having been under the radar of other clubs’ scouts, we just stole a march on them. As others point out come other cheap buys escaped us?

    A man afforded too much power for his abilities ( not his fault) – best working to and under the directon of a better judge who will be instrumental in getting the best out of said players.




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