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Benitez On Transfer Business – Charnley Was Great

11:07 pm, Thursday, September 1st, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 96 Comments

Benitez was asked on the Newcastle web-site today how he thought the summer transfer window was for Newcastle United and he seems very positive.

It’s interesting that he has again said that he was in great communication with Managing Director Lee Charnley throughout the summer and they talked most days.

He was coming back from his UEFA Elite Coaches Forum in Nyon, Switzerland yesterday and he was in communication with Lee on what was happening.

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Lee Charnley and Rafa Benitez

Lee was probably updating him on the Moussa Sissoko status, as both Everton and Tottenham met Newcastle’s £30M fee – and Moussa finally went to Tottenham.

Rafa was asked how happy he was with the business that’s been done this summer.

This is how he responded.

“I am very happy. We have really done a lot of business, to move players out and also to bring new players with experience in.”

“It has not been easy all the time, because of the price of players in this window, especially when the Premier League clubs had received their television income.”

“But we have traded very well, we have kept focused on our targets and we have tried to bring the players in with the characteristics that we needed.”

“Every day, until the last minute of the last day, my communication with Lee Charnley has been great.”

“We did everything we had to do to finalize our business early.”

“But these days you can’t control what others do, so while I was in Nyon in the UEFA Coaches Meeting and on my way back to UK, we were talking about the last transfers.”

“I have to say I think we have done a great job and I think it is easy to see that.”

It’s very good that Rafa and Lee Charnley seem to be working so well together for the good of Newcastle United.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Other News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




96 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:11 PM

    Jail, yes, I read the other poster’s pasting.

  • 2 jimmysmith // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:12 PM

    Charnley has been on a steep steep learning curve, and fallen off a few times along the way, and had to pick himself up. But now he has Rafa and is seemingly doing exceptionally well, and quite possibly they’ll go on to run Newcastle very well in tandem, possibly for years to come.

  • 3 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:14 PM

    Penfold has done a great job with Rafa, this window.

    Danger Mouse will be proud.

  • 4 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:31 PM

    BandB // Sep 1, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    Next time you go to buy a car, try saying “can I stop the repayments if I sell it in six months?”
    It’s unbelievable that this cack is given credence.

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    Who is giving it credence? I’m giving credence to the idea that NUFC get £6m a year for every year with Spurs, plus a fee based on a formula if Sissoko moves before 5 years. It’s credible given the massive gulf between valuations.

    Does anyone on here know the contractual terms? Doubt it. I wouldn’t dismiss it as fantasy. Most people on here didn’t think he was worth anything like £30m. And some expressed the view they’d take very much less to get rid of him. Spurs were offering £16m the last I heard. I think it’s unlikely, but I wouldn’t call it “cack” when I’ve no idea of the exact terms of the contract, which could include numerous variables.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    Jimmy,
    As long as we don’t have to see his ugly mug or have to be reminded that him and his gaffer paid people to research the stupidity of winning FA cups vs relegation then actually getting relegated while avoiding them, then that’s OK.

  • 6 Whumpie // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    Obviously we won’t know how well they’ve done for a season or two – who knows how well the new players will perform?
    But to do that much business, at a profit, and not do one deal that gets slated…. that is impressive.
    Take a bow, all involved.

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    Blackas,
    Do you really care?

  • 8 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:47 PM

    If Spurs sell after 2 years, do NUFC get all the remaining balance or does the buying club take over the instalments? Are the instalments index-linked? 5× £6m over five years could be worth a good bit less than £30m up front.

  • 9 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:55 PM

    Jail
    I’ve seen some people on here question why anyone is bothered at all about how much the club receives on transfers such as this. It’s common sense why the matter is important.

    We may now have £6m more sitting in the bank as opposed to £30m on a straight forward sale. It’s a massive difference. If you had a car worth £30k and wanted the sale proceeds to buy a new car costing £40k, you wouldn’t want to sell it based on 5 instalments over five years. You might be getting the bus for five years.

  • 10 jane // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:55 PM

    course NUFC get the remaining balance :rolleyes:

  • 11 jimmysmith // Sep 2, 2016 at 12:02 AM

    Benitez seems not just a talented and experienced football man, but also a decent and responsible guy. Charnley can only benefit from rubbing shoulders with him rather than Ashley. And Ashley surely would be happy to have two capable and safe pairs of hands to run the club and to allow him take a back seat from where he need do little more than rubber stamp the finances. But sure that ugly mug of Charnley’s does take a bit of the gloss of it all. haha!

  • 12 ron burgundy // Sep 2, 2016 at 12:16 AM

    who cares as long as the wastrel is gone

  • 13 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 12:31 AM

    jane // Sep 1, 2016 at 11:55 PM

    course NUFC get the remaining balance :rolleyes:

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    They get the remaining balance you would certainly think. The question is when? Is the instalment arrangement passed on to the next buying club? Say Spurs sell after two years for £35m to Real Madrid? Do Spurs bank £17m (£5m profit plus 2 instalments already paid to NUFC) and Real Madrid pay NUFC the balancing instalments on the relevant anniversaries for the next three years? Or does NUFC get all of the remaining balance on the sale? In which case an early sale by Spurs would benefit NUFC substantially.

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 12:35 AM

    If NUFC gets promoted and hungry for a transfer warchest, this question could be very topical.

  • 15 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:08 AM

    Most clubs pay in installments. They usually do it for the length of a players contract.

    Do people think Spurs got £90m for Bale in one go?
    Under Freddie we were often still paying for players who had left. In some cases our yearly payment came to more than what we had sold him for.

    We are pretty unique as a club. We pay cash up front and only spend what we actually have, this means we should always get the best deal and remain healthy.

    But this seems to confuse matters with some toon fans. I dont know why but it does.

    A club like Spurs will pay for the majority of their players in installments. They also receive the majority of their money in installments with respect to players sold.

    This means that they can usually invest the fee received straight away.

    We also take installments on players. Andy Carrol was paid that way as have many others.

    We don’t buy on the never never though so we either save it or use what clubs have given us for that year.

    Some of our fans expected us to use the £31m in January.

    I just dont get it.

    I remember when Carrol was sold, some said the same thing about it not being invested and did the whole incomings outgoings transfers thing.

    Its like they missed the bit that said yes we will receive it but its over time.

    I would wager that the majority of the sales we did were done the usual way, i.e. installments over the length of the contract.

    Its not new stuff.

  • 16 RonVanDam // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:08 AM

    @funlovingexpress
    You nailed it

  • 17 posada // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:23 AM

    Don’t get some of the Thirty Bob Entrepreneurs that come on here.
    We can’t know the exact ins and outs of deals and even if we did we couldn’t do a damn thing about it.
    So, why not just support the club.
    Judge what you can see. The performance in games.

  • 18 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:41 AM

    It could be the Bobby Thompson repayment plan.
    A fiver down and the rest in threatening letters
    😀

  • 19 giimps // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:43 AM

    I’m sure there was talk of Andy C being sold for cold hard cash up front ,but your right ,most of the rest of top football pay in instalments and Rafa is just going with what he knows….the difference is , we don’t pay for players in instalments at the moment.
    Apparently

  • 20 LGFUAD21 // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:11 AM

    Funloving

    I believe newcastle in recent years pay for players up front and sellup front.

    Andy carrol i heard was paid for in 2 or 3 installments that ran over 6 months. I remember we even fined liverpool for late payment.

    There is a difference between cashflow and accounts though. Even if we bought a player for £5m up front in cash, we’d spread the cost on accounts over the course of the contract. This is what ive always been lead to believe anyway.

  • 21 Lindisfarne // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:24 AM

    Rafa “We have done a great job.”

    Penfold “Crumbs Chief, I could’na done it without you.”

  • 22 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:24 AM

    LGFUAD21
    Not True
    We were actually paid £35 million up front by Chelsea as part of their deal wtih Liverpool for Fernando Torres.
    It was some complicated tax avoidance scheme concocted by the 3 clubs

  • 23 Spoof // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:32 AM

    funloving

    Andy Carroll’s fee wasn’t paid in instalments, it was one payment, and when Liverpool where late with there payment we actually fined them.

    However, even though we may not have all the Sissoko cash come January, if we need to spend that money I’m sure that we could use the balance owed from Spurs as a guarantee so I don’t see a problem with it.

  • 24 Magpie Myles // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:35 AM

    Not only have we made some great and sturdy signings but we have also built a TEAM rather than individuals. On top of that we made a huge profit in the transfer window but we also slashed the wage bill by a big amount. We still have money for January if needed. What a sensible window!

  • 25 ArtyH // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:01 AM

    Just a thought…..As we all knew Charnley was never a football man….with Pardumbo and Co if he just did what they asked him no wonder it went T.Up. Now with Rafa if he does what he is TOLD we can all see the difference, no I am not sticking up for Charnley just looking at another angle…..still think he should have been sacked last season, and is Carr still on the books?

  • 26 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:01 AM

    The Russian transfer window doesn’t close until 6th September .
    There are rumours that Tioté could be joining his old NUFC teammate Gabby Obertan at Anzhi Makhachkala

  • 27 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:23 AM

    I think most folk who comment on here about the backroom staff miss the point entirely.

    Because of an unforeseen set of circumstances Rafa Benitez one of the elite coachs in Europe was able to write his own job description at NUFC and now wields the sort of power only a few managers enjoy.

    Mourinho , Guardiola and Conte are probably the only 3 in the UK to match him .

    I think Klopp , Wenger and Pochettino have some restrictions placed on them and have to consult with the suits in the background and the rest of the PL managers are pretty much just coaches.
    This is probably why so many of our transfers had such a short time between being just rumour to the player holding the shirt – there was no referring back – just , Rafa wants him – go sign him.

  • 28 hibbit // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:27 AM

    Jib
    that would be a good moveTioté and us
    lets hope its true he needs to be away

  • 29 Our Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM

    Fun loving express

    A lot has changed in football since shepherds day. Clubs do pay installments but the new TV deal means more funds payed upfront with smaller installments. Hence the increase across Europe in spending.

    Spurs went from 16m to 30m in less than 4 hours…..find that hard to believe

  • 30 toonincheek // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:44 AM

    NUFC have a history of paying up front for players
    And expecting/requiring other clubs to do the same
    When they buy our players.

    So – why is it different this time?

    Could be that THFC didn’t have all the cash to hand –
    Or could it be that by spreading the income (profit)
    over a longer period, we will be liable for less tax?

    Not suggesting, or even speculating – just asking.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM

    toonincheek,
    More likely they were the only bids on the table, and the club wanted rid so had to accept.

  • 32 magscar // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:01 AM

    One of the reasons that Spurs went from £16M to £30M might simply be that Everton had entered the fray and it wasn’t only one club then playing who blinks first.

    Spurs clearly thought they had up until that point an open run on a player who wanted out and his club would have to bend.

    Everton presumably were thinking that as Spurs had tabled a derisory amount below Newcastle’s valuation they might just have become the only game in town at the eleventh hour.

    As some poster remarked on the day an Ebay -esque bidding war in last minutes of the auction but by rich clubs.

    Newcastle’s move in this was presumably to drop price a little ( as was probably always the likelihood if asking price wasn’t met) and added the instalment deal – was this what helped attract Everton after Sissoko’s agent had used them as a stalking horse?

    Haven’t read any angry comments from Everton camp about us so presumably we played with a straight bat throughout negotiations – if you will excuse the cricket metaphor.

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    Unforeseen circumstances? I think the only people that couldn’t see it Jib were you and Churnley.

  • 34 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:05 AM

    Sissoko money again? Shall we discuss where the Carroll money went next?

    Thought the agreement was to put it on hold for two years?

  • 35 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    toonincheck
    How the F**k have the Spuds got no money
    season 2014 -15 got £54 million
    season 2015 -16 gift £95 million

    that is without transfers = £149 million in two seasons

    Just Levy is a tight arsed sod who would rather trouser the money than pay-out.

    NO CLUB IN THE PREMIERSHIP WITH THE EXTRA MONIES THEY HAVE RECEIVED SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PAY IN INSTALLMENTS

  • 36 expatmag // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    JIB @ 22

    Actually, you are incorrect too.

    They paid us £30 millon pounds up front with the remainder at the end of the season.

    Derek Llambiase told a bunch of supporters in a local pub some time later that they charged Liverpool a couple of hundred thousand pounds in interest because they were a couple of days late in paying the balance of the fee.

    The first part us definitely correct. Thesecond part from deadly derek could be raken with a pinch of salt as he admitted to being pished at the time.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:13 AM

    WW…,
    Don’t worry it’ll all be neatly filed in the accounts under the heading:
    Sissoko Money.
    Just like the Carroll money was and that year we should have shown a 30M profit.

  • 38 Slank // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:14 AM

    Jib

    I don’t know about Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte, Klopp or Pochettino but I’m pretty sure that Wenger is ‘the main man’ given the number of comments over the years by professional pundits and ex Arsenal players.

    It has been mentioned on numerous occasions by the same pundits and ex players that Wenger is, to all intents and purposes, in charge of the purse strings and the board tend to bow down and touch their forelocks before him.

    At Spurs I cannot believe Daniel Levy, who has a reputation for being a thoroughly vindictive and manipulative individual, would allow any manager let alone Pochettino get ahead of themselves.

  • 39 expatmag // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    MAGSCAR

    As i see it, both Spurs and Everton had registered an interest in Sissoko for quite some time but failed to offer a bid until Spurs came in with £16m.

    Newcastle would then have told them £30m and not avpenny less but we would accept ghe 5 payments of £6m.

    Both Spurs and Everton had other irons in the fire as Sissoko wasnt their first choices but as deadline day continued, their prefrrences, one by one turned them down.

    Everton then increased their bid to £30m which we accepted with possibly McCarthy as part of the deal.

    Spurs got wind of this and told Sissoko they would natch Evertons bid and he must not answer any calls from them.

    Spurs then upped their offer to £30m under the original conditions stated by us.

  • 40 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    Charlie- They are planning for a new 61,000 Stadium. Staged payments will help his cash flow.

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Honestly people. Does it really matter how two clubs have come to an agreement on how to pay for a player.

  • 42 magscar // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    Expat

    No problem with that possible version either simply trying to respond to why Spurs might have increased offer in 4 hours- didn’t seem that mysterious to me.

  • 43 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:27 AM

    JfA
    Not unless we are all going to get a cut…are we gonna get a cut? We are a rich club owned by a cun-ahem rich man whose overall priority was to get us in a good financial position which we are in

    Whatever money we got is just sitting in Ashley’s bank account anyway

  • 44 Budge123 // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    In an effort to generate debate on something other than cash flow –

    How many players do we have away in this international break?

    Are many travelling to the back of beyond.?

    How many will be too tired to be considered for the Derby game?

  • 45 Slank // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    It would appear that Benitez and Charnley have established a very good working relationship. It is not the first time that Benitez has praised Charnley for his work behind the scenes.

    Benitez has previously said that Charnley has been involved in nearly all the changes that have taken place at the club that have mostly been instigated by Benitez but discussed with Charnley since Benitez arrival at the club.

    It would appear that everyone is rowing in the same direction in the same boat, at long last.

  • 46 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    JfA
    I know you think you gain some kudos by the appointment of Rafa ( because you once mentioned him when names were bandied about)
    But it was in fact the guy you quaintly call Churnley who actually interviewed him and gave him the job.
    Last summer with the purchases of Mitro M’Bemba Thauvin and Wijnaldum and a new manager and coaching staff there weren’t too many forecasting relegation yourself included.

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    magscar,
    Spurs knew that Sissoko would choose them over Everton. They tried to call our bluff and get him cheaper. When it became obvious they had to pay 30M or Everton would sign him they matched the offer. Is this really hard to follow?

  • 48 magscar // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Jail

    I am not one to worry about how clubs do deals and trust in Rafa to get best he can through Charnley in circumstances which presented themselves. It is all we can do from afar.

  • 49 Slank // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Budge123

    ‘..Are many travelling to the back of beyond.? ‘

    Some are in Scotland, I understand !

  • 50 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    Jib
    Pretty sure it was Rafa doing the interviewing

  • 51 magscar // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Jail@47

    I think we are agreeing.

    Our Toon had difficulty in believing Spurs stance could shift so dramatically in 4 hours. Most of us I don’t think had a problem in seeing why. I was simply seeking to lay a possible trail 🙂

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    No jib, but by the end of the January window when Mclaren was looking increasingly hapless it was obvious to everyone bar you and Churnley we were heading for the drop.

  • 53 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Ian Toon
    Daniel Levy – voted 9th richest person in Britain in the 2009 Sunday Times Rich List, worth an estimated £2,800million.

    Installments in Help in planning for a new 61,000 Stadium. Crap
    the man has got plenty of money – just pay up!!!

  • 54 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Wenger arouses a lot of anger amongst many Arsenal fans but he is the epitome of what a manager should be. He has built the club from the grass roots and not sullied his profession. At a time when financial clout was significantly the determinant of PL success he limited his transfer activity to finance the Emirates.

    Unlike so many managers he hasn’t sullied his believes. Or reputation.

    Slank – Pochettino had been saying for days how much Spurs are dependent on Dembele ( currently suspended) and he apparently ( LES) had a shouting match with Daniel Levy over the need to get someone with a similar marauding style in – Sissoko.

  • 55 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    JfA
    I must apologise .

    I forgot about your comprehension difficulties.

    I should have realised you don’t understand what unforeseen meant.

    (note to self – if I use a word with more than six letters – Jail will invariably get hold of the wrong end of the stick)

  • 56 Hail Wor Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    As I said a few days ago. There must be a small aprt of Charnley resenting Rafa. Coming in to NUFC and making Charnley process over 30 deals in one window. So used to doing 6-8 in/out max and then putting his feet up.

  • 57 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    Ian Toon; Sissoko marauding? Your cracking me up. Comotose is a more appropriate adjective to describe Sissoko’s playing style.

  • 58 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:51 AM

    Jib resorting to insults when being found out. Now that’s very foreseeable!

  • 59 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    Jib
    Also Charnley didn’t make the decision to appoint a new manager he made the decision to stick with the failing McClaren which ultimately got us relegated

  • 60 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    You don’t get a lot for £ 30 million.

  • 61 Hail Wor Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    Wow. Some still drivelling about some masochistic fantasy of theirs in which NUFC get fleeced if Sissoko is sold by Spurs. Weirdos.

  • 62 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:07 AM

    Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Honestly people. Does it really matter how two clubs have come to an agreement on how to pay for a player.

    *************************************************
    You could take the first six words and apply them to almost every comment ever posted on this blog.

  • 63 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    Most transfer business is done in instalments. What’s all the fuss about. The reason Ashley wants all transfers to be self financed is because we were committed to payments for players long after they had left us. Money which we did not have as the fees would be financed on predicted earnings not on actual income.
    Football clubs are always spending money they do not have with the exception of Arsenal and us perhaps, that’s why so many go belly up when performances do not match expectations.
    I find it incomprehensible that Newcaste would have agreed to a deal that if Sissoko were, as is likely, to leave Spurs they would have no obligation to continue to pay what they owe.

  • 64 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    Levy had told Pochettino that £30 million was too steep. He was prepared to step aside; until he was lambasted by Pochettino over how Spurs had finesse in abundance but needed a Dembele marauding power in midfield to spark their season. He Pochettino out of character made an issue of it. It was reported in the LES.

  • 65 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Ha ha Jibs latest plagiarism is to accuse others of misunderstanding context. Oh my sides ha ha!

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Marauding!
    There’s a word you don’t see often used.

  • 67 Budge123 // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:21 AM

    It was in the LES it must be true then!

    Spurs tried it on with a low bid to an ikkle Championship club.

    Fat Mike called their bluff.
    All credit to him.
    Not that he has atoned fully for his previous sins though.

  • 68 ron burgundy // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    OK before we start, let’s go over the ground-rules … No touching of the hair or face … And THAT’S IT. Now FIGHT!

  • 69 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Tsunki- Good morning.

  • 70 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Well it’s like déja vu all over again here lol. Not one person here I guarantee knows any of the crudest details of the Sissoko deal except that at some point there were two clubs negotiating with nufc, one of which more than likely matched or exceeded acceptable terms. This impacts speculation on how any fees will be spent, as we have no idea of what initial deposit was made, the term and (and any penalties of course) any sell-on /uplift considerations, early settlement blah blah… what we do know for reasonably certain is it’ll be next window before any money can be spent on players.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    10carl // Jul 20, 2016 at 6:04 PM
    His marauding style would be a revalation in the championship.

  • 72 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM

    Ian Good morning to you all.

    Same for Rob.

  • 73 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    Jail ha ha you know it’s like batting your head off a bridge but it’s funny to watch in print :

  • 74 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:28 AM

    Surely we can put to bed the idea that Ashley wasn’t involved in any part of a possibly £30m asset deal, and that he would allow his employees to frame a fragile contract on said asset? Give yourselves a good shake people. 😀

  • 75 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    JFA. Ian Toon has used it twice this morning albeit quoting the Evening Standard, which is bog paper by the way. It’s still a word I would not associate with Sissoko.

  • 76 jimmysmith // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    Yeah, Ashley was in it. But that’s a good thing. His forte so to speak. 30 mill, what percentage of the club is that? 10 to 15.

  • 77 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Charnley was forced into a desperate but ultimately very canny move to unravel the damage caused by the idiotic “Footballing Board” idea. hats off to Charnley for yanking himself out of the fire in appointing Benitez, it’s a Win-Win for Charnley now if he fails or succeeds, he’s done his part. And admirably, though it’s painful to utter about this previously bumbling doughball, the deals he has played a large part in expediting this window, together with Benitez, have been nothing short of mass executional in style and scope. Bravo, Billy Bunter, Bravo.

    Questions remain over the breadth of Rafas autonomy but so far it appears he has quite a purchase in the operation.

  • 78 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    Jimmy, my point being that a deal of that size would be all hands on, dotted i’s and crossed t’s. The notion that a club would walk off with the keys to the Bentley with a £500 deposit and ” maybe we’ll pay, maybe we won’t” is risible.

  • 79 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    According to George Caulkin, of The Times no less. (It’s canny this newspaper name dropping. It’s as though it adds credence to any old shit spouted on here.) Mike Ashley did intervene in the Sissoko transfer. Caulkin states this during a discussion on the True Faith podcast which was posted on their web site yesterday. At least I think he did. 🙂

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Novo,
    Throw the words Marauding, Sissoko and nufcblog in to a search engine and there are only two names that come up. carl read the Evening Standard as well, last month. Coincidence, got to be as likely as Ian and Jack Root quoting paragraphs of “Carras” book.

  • 81 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    Ron burgundy – as usual, we are trapped inside this glass case of emotion 🙂

  • 82 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Ian, maybe at this stressful time of being barraged with further indicators of your devious multiplicity, you should invoke The Belfast.

    Cross legged and arms outstretched, index fingers to thumbs, facing ceilingward with eyes closed…

    “Ohhhhhhhhmmmmmm…”

  • 83 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    I like marauding, the word I mean. (I’m not partial to going around widely ravaging and stealing or causing havoc.) It has an olde worlde ring to it. An old word that is still widely used to this day, or perhaps misused when describing decidedly average footballers.

  • 84 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    Jail- it says more about your limited vocabulary.
    ” From 4-4-2 Glen Johnson: The attacking full-back.
    From timing your runs to knowing your team-mates, the marauding Stoke City and England right-back gives a six-step lesson in how to raid from deep”.

    It’s a good serviceable word and sums up Sisskko’s style perfectly. I saw Woodman’s Dad at London Bridge earlier in the week and he used it to emphasis what Moussa would bring to Palace.

  • 85 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    Emphasise

  • 86 Yo-yo // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    Novo

    Marauding is pure Border Reivers that’s why.
    So it fits the NE very well.

  • 87 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    Interesting to note Sissoko was “involved in” more NUFC goals scored than any other player. Measured during his time here I understand. Courtesy of SSN.

    The way the transfer was being reported was unusual in that an issue was made of the fact that NUFC were sticking to their valuation but latterly were prepared to offer a sweetener in the form of instalments on this occasion.

    Following the deal, the Standard made an issue of how the instalments are not as expected. People are saying instalments are just the norm. I’ve never known the instalments aspect being so majorly newsworthy.

  • 88 Yo-yo // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    JIB

    There, their, they’re !

  • 89 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    Tsunki- Stressful time!! Yer right! Been fun and relaxing before entering the real world.

    What a scamp you’re Buster. It doesn’t suit you being so miserable.
    Are you still taking your son out for driving lessons?

  • 90 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    Blackley- I have to go….. But is there any mileage in pushing the Carr should be pensioned off line? Or are we now saying how well he did in securing players and us subsequently reaping a rich reward in a short time.

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    Yes Ian, it is a word that even someone with a limited vocabulary would recognise but for only two posters from a blog of hundreds to use it and both of them having proved on many occasions to have multiple personalities then it just has to be another bizarre coincidence.

  • 92 Belfast // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Who you gonna call? (Belfastbuster)

    I ain’t afraid of no ghosts!

  • 93 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Belfast- I like it. I will make a point of using it widely. Contacts down sarf lead sheltered lives they’ll love it- just love it.!
    Catchya later.

  • 94 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Jail- I plead the 5th amendment. It’s a fair cop guvnor.

  • 95 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Blackie; The questions is by what degree was Sissoko involved? Involved in the build up? Involved by making a dummy run? Involved by being on the pitch? There appears to be a lot of people trying their best to justify Sissoko’s fee. It’s great for us he has gone. It’s great for us we’ve managed to extort a large fee. It’s great for us that he is someone else’s problem. Reasons to be cheerful 1,2,3.

  • 96 isleofmanman // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:18 PM

    Hey Rafa man. Me wife and me boss are great when they do everything I ask without quibbling.

    In Charnley’s case he has only been promoted from Ashley’s bag carrier to Ashley’s cheque-signer-on-demand for you

    Maybe he has improved – but the evidence will only be seen (one way or the other) after Benitez has left the club. Which hopefully will be in many years time…




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