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Rafa Explains How He Will Reduce Injuries At Newcastle

1:15 pm, Friday, September 2nd, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 99 Comments

Rafa has been asked a number of questions after the transfer window finally closed on Wednesday evening at 11:00 pm – and he has given some thoughtful answers to those varied questions.

One of the problems we have had in the Premier League is the many injuries we pick up every season.

Because of that it’s never been possible to field our strongest side and that has affected our league position over the last few years.

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Rafa Benitez at St. James’ Park

Here’s a question where he is asked about Newcastle’s injuries, which have been terrible for over a decade and we always finished top of the Premier League – at least in terms of the number of injuries we picked up each season.

Here’s the question with Rafa response.

Even in the first few games there have been injury problems like with Aarons, does this prove you’re right that strength in depth is vital?

“Absolutely we have to have strength in depth.”

“We have two games a week, every few days there is a game and we know from experience and also from research that if players are playing as many games as this they will pick up injuries.”

“The research proves that it is inevitable.” “So, we have to do a few things.”

“We have to rotate the squad. I have done this before at other clubs I have been at and it helps a lot to reduce the number of injuries.”

“That’s because you can rest players and make sure they properly recover between games.”

“Also you have to have depth to the squad in every position to make a rotation system possible but also to give us cover when injuries do happen.

“Finally we have to have the proper medical and rehabilitation processes in place to get players back from injury safely – always – but as quickly as we can.

“That’s why we made some changes to our medical team and our facilities this summer and I’m really pleased with the job they are already doing, it is all important.”

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Injuries · Newcastle News · Other News · Premier League




99 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 1:23 PM

    Blackas,
    Previous thread.

  • 2 Whumpie // Sep 2, 2016 at 1:32 PM

    I think he’s missed the main point there: it is not bad luck that the injuries happen; there is something wrong in the setup, processes, culture – something. The solution isn’t more players, although rotation will help – it’s in finding the causes and removing them.

  • 3 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    REPOST:

    Here’s a hypothetical question for the future:

    If we get promoted do we spend the Premier League prize money that we will get at the end of the season in the summer window when we promote to guarantee that we stay up?

    It will be difficult to compete with other clubs who have just gotten their windfall for finishing the season in the Premier League when all we have in our coffers is the measly cash from promoting from the Championship. Ashley has been clear that NUFC can spend the money they make but no more and I wonder if that will change if we go up – it might be a good move but it’s also a bit of a gamble.

    Does anyone know how much 1st and 2nd get in the championship compared to 15-17th in the Premier League? Last year 15-17th got ~70m over the course of the season including league placement and TV fees and the 55m for being in the division. I have a feeling that’s lots more than the Championship winners get, but I don’t really have a good number for it and a quick Google didn’t turn it up.

  • 4 hibbit // Sep 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    still a number transfer windows open hopefully Cheick Tiote can find a club
    the russian window is open for 4 more days plus others around the world
    somebody must want him

  • 5 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    If he ends up without a contract Hibbit then Tiote won’t need any window.

  • 6 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    Madison
    This June just gone NUFC got £73 million for their 18th place in the PL.

    The Championship Parachute payment is £87 million over 3 years spread thus:-

    In season one, 2016-17, NUFC would get £40 million

    In season two, 2017-18, NUFC would get £33 million

    In season three, 2018-19, NUFC would get £14 million.

    Of corse everyone hopes we will only receive the 1st payment and be back feeding at the top table season 2017/18.

  • 7 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    Thanks for all the replies earlier lads, sorry I couldnt reply a bit sooner but will try now.

    Spoof we could use future money coming in, in the future to fund players in January but we won’t.

    I actually prefer it that way though many don’t. We only spend what we have in our pocket not what we earn next week should we say.

    I was wrong about Carrol, or so it seems, too many people have said the same thing for it to be a coincidence so I stand corrected.

    The principle is the same though. We often take player sales as installments.

    IMO it had built up a canny nest egg which is why Mcclaren spent so much last season. But he spent almost all of it. Though not all. I figure at least £23m was left because that is what we bid for Berahino.

    Benitez has got his money back and then some but I figure we are around £20m down for waht we have to spend in the next window.

    Its impossible to say exactly how much because we don’t know how many players we sold are being paid via installments for the length of their contract.

    We will get the money ofc and it puts us in a healthier position for the next few years but today as we speak I reckon we have spent almost everything that we had in our pocket.

    The team though now looks a canny one. Players will be sold out of it next season when we go up and we will probably make a profit on most of them because the relegated clubs will have even more money.

    Personally I think we are healthy both on and off the pitch for the next few years at least. We will buy top players when we go up, quite a few spanish ones I would wager.

    Their fees will be offset by the ludicrous money we receive for vour championship players.

    On top of transfers the club also generates money ofc but wages etc take a big hit out of it. Otherwise the likes of Sunderland wouldnt have to sell to buy.

  • 8 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:14 PM

    Maddison we dont spend on the never never. We never spend on what we will get but only on what we have got.

    Its better in that way IMO

  • 9 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:15 PM

    jib –

    Thanks for the parachute payment info – very helpful in thinking about what we’ll be able to spend in the coming windows.

    I wonder what, if any, prize money there was for the Championship to go along with the parachute payment, although that on it’s own will go a long ways. It won’t be near as much as the bottom Prem teams get but it will help the continuing rebuild significantly.

  • 10 cyprus // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Poor Tiote. Didn’t something similar happen with that Chinese team? I guess don’t pack your bags before all is set it you’re in for a disappointment.

    Reminds me of that player who drove to a club he wanted to sign, only to be not allowed to get in. Hoilet?

    I suppose if we are true to form we must now hate Tiote for wanting out. I just don’t have the heart to do that.

  • 11 cyprus // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    Or-it

  • 12 bettyswallocks // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:18 PM

    Jib…… Hopefully it won’t be applicable , but how much would we receive in season 4. 2019-20?

  • 13 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:18 PM

    funlovingexpress

    I know that’s what we’ve done in the past, but I wonder if the threat of yo-yo’ing is enough to have MA use the anticipated funds early.

    It doesn’t do much good to get a bunch of money at the end of the season as you are being relegated. Certainly nobody hopes that if we go up we will come straight back down, but with the squad we have (and one or two probably departing at the end of the season) we aren’t a firm midtable Prem team which is what we would need to be to not fear about a return to the Championship.

    Still, I wonder what Ashley’s thoughts will be and what Rafa will push for.

  • 14 2_goal_tino // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    @ Whumpie – Rafa did talk about that…
    “we have to have the proper medical and rehabilitation processes in place to get players back from injury safely – always – but as quickly as we can. That’s why we made some changes to our medical team and our facilities this summer and I’m really pleased with the job they are already doing, it is all important.”

    Our injury problems have primarily been that the same players keep getting injured because they never fully rehabilitate from their previous injuries, which just makes them more susceptible to another one. When you have not much squad depth and are fighting relegation, the club hasn’t had the luxury of being able to ensure players fully rehabilitate.

    Rafa is saying injuries will be less common because of more rotation but also the injuries we do have will be properly and fully treated before they return to the first team – both through the improved facilities and the greater squad depth meaning they aren’t rushed back.

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    whumpie

    with respect, i don’t think rafa misses much

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    cyprus

    odemwhinge (wrong spelling)

  • 17 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    For this season the Cship TV money is pitiful about £3million per club –
    but as from next season Scudamore has promised it will go up to between 40 to 60 percent of what the PL clubs will get (depending on screenings)
    So to answer your question Madison – the fourth season should see a lot more of the Sky and BT money filtering it’s way down.

  • 18 expatmag // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM

    On the Tiote front, a bit too coincidental that he has allegedly failed to agree terms with teams ftom UAE, China, Turkey and Greece in yhe last 2 windows.

    I think it us more to him being a greedy git and over pricing himself out of favourable contracts.

    Must be all those wives he has to pay for

  • 19 SuperShearer // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    What Rafa is too nice to say here is “Oh yeah, and we’ve shipped out a lot of our sicknotes like Taylor, Colo, Krul, Obertan, etc etc,” – players who used to spend at least 50% of the season on the treatment table. Aarons is going to be so lonely this season in there with any luck.

  • 20 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM

    sorry
    Betty’s question

  • 21 Jib // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    The obvious place for Tioté to go would be MLS.
    However his police record precludes him from that lucrative solution.

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:40 PM

    fle,
    Mclaren didn’t spend any money last summer, those players were coming in under any of the McCardews. He supposedly had input towards Townsend and Shelvey.

  • 23 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Jib

    That makes a lot of sense otherwise the difference in purchasing power will make it almost impossible for promoted clubs to make moves for PL-ready players.

  • 24 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM

    Maddison I get where you are coming from but it would be a mistake in my eyes.

    For starters we should get top dollar for the players we want to sell next season who helped us go up.

    there will be three very rich clubs coming down looking to buy good championship players and will be willing to pay for it.

    Then you throw Villa and wolves into the mix (I dont see either going up this year) and you have 5 teams all wanting promotion with cash to burn and who do they look at? They look at the clubs that justv went up or were close to it.

    Benitez I feeli will then hit the spanish market and buy players who he knows can become top stars in the premiership.

    I dont see us buying many British players next year. We will after all still have a spine of British players at the club so buying continental internationals wont be a problem.

    That means they will be cheaper.

    So in essence we get top dollar for good dependable championship players who would struggle in the premiership and buy cheap international continental players that Benitez knows.

    It wont be enough to challenge for Europe (though you never know ofc) but will be enough to keep us up.

    Then we get the TV money and it moves forward.

    Promotion, consolodation, then attack the league by storm.

    Thats the way my friends and I see it anyhow, we ofc have discussed it at length.

    Completely hypothetical but makes sense to us.

    Benitez often bought Spanish players at Liverpool and often paid very very little for them.

  • 25 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    Jail, yeah, you are right ofc but the point is just as valid. I should have said Carr and Charnley though

  • 26 stuart no9 // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:45 PM

    an article in the papers today saying- no one at spurs knew or wanted soko at the club . Right at the death , Levy put the offer in without poch knowing. he had never been targeted even. Levy thinks kes good though. The same at chelsea regarding Luiz. Conte had 2 targets he was looking at untill Luiz’s mate Rom offered him an escape route from PSG. Its a very interesting season this one , hope things go tits up for them ., also man city not accepting Agueros 3 game ban coz they say ” the ref saw the incident, he must have seen it coz he was only 10 yds away” hahaha what a load of tosh , even if he was only 1 yrd away , hes still only got 2 eyes but might have been looking somewhere else. they are going to appeal – i think they have no chance . any thoughts lads ??

  • 27 cyprus // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    Yep,
    That’s the player, thanks.

  • 28 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:47 PM

    Jib I think Tiote has stayed so he can negotiate as a bosman in january.

    I could be wrong like but it makes sense. He stays with us one season drawing premiership wages and gets a bumper pay deal off a new club in january for next summer.

  • 29 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Stuart many reports say Poch told Levy he needed him and to move in no matter what it cost.

    It makes sense in a way because all spurs really lack is the Sissoko type athlete who will do powerful runs all day:

    Problem is, Sissoko is only that type when it suits him.

  • 30 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    Jail
    I don’t concern myself with speculating on Keith Bishop’s machinations. It’s easier to discern the hand at work of old man Carr.

  • 31 expatmag // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:53 PM

    Funloving

    Might be best if we negotiate the cancellation of his contract now. Give him a couple of millon to sod off and he can nrgotiate his new club immediatrly……probably in Russia this time

  • 32 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM

    Expat do you not think he could do a job? Or do you think the rumours about him being a bad apple at the club are true?

  • 33 clinath@ed // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Madison/Jib….I’ve asked a few times what monies were received for coming 18th last season, and where that cash would be invested?
    So with the £30M+ PLUS the £70M+ in the bank, the club’s finances are looking very rosy.

  • 34 lesh // Sep 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Rafa’s quite a guy. He’s had a hectic close season and transfer window and he’s still giving interviews – despite the international break.

    I’d have thought that Charnley ‘ll be off for a couple of weeks but moreso that either he, Ashley or Mrs Rafa would have told him to get away from football for a couple of weeks rest.

    What a character.

  • 35 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    TyneMouth
    Interesting points. But why would the Standard focus on this transfer and not any other of all the many? If anyone should know this is commonplace, it’s Harry.

    As for interest on the instalments, no doubt it’s commonplace. In this case it would mean £30m headline is actually worth £30m. However, there’s no rule to say that interest must always be part of the contract. Ashley might have foregone the interest, making the value of the transfer to be considerably less than £30m. Nevertheless, no loss of face because the club can claim they wouldn’t budge on £30m and that was the “headline” figure that was agreed.

  • 36 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:02 PM

    Clinath most of that £73m (thats what we got for finishing 18th) will go on wages. Not all ofc but a big big chunk of it.

    If you look at the rest of the premiership very very few teams spent £70m plus on top of what they received.

    Some toon supporters (Im not including you ion this) think we are completely different though and we get ton spend all of ours on players.

    It makes no sense to me but you cant convince some people.

  • 37 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    clinath@ed

    I think it sounds like they are if we pretend that those finances go only into the transfer kitty, but there’s no way that’s true. How do we pay for the improvements at Benton? How do we pay for player salaries each week? Since the club is going to get that money guaranteed, I have a feeling that they use it for recurring costs primarily and one-off costs when there is excess and it is needed. There’s no way that 70m is just waiting i the bank to be spent.

    funloving

    Makes a lot of sense. I like the plan and we’ll see how it goes. Lots of homegrown players purchased this season so Rafa won’t need to worry about overpaying for local talent next year and can let a few leave while replacing with cheaper players from the continent of the same or better calibre. HWTL

  • 38 MadisonToon // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:04 PM

    funloving

    Spot on.

  • 39 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:05 PM

    Lesh I think Mrs Rafa knows him well enough. He wouldnt rest. He just doesnt. Hes like us, he breathes footy.

    He even watched a match on his honeymoon by all accounts.

    I bet he had a hand in the honeymoon destination too just so he could get to watch who he wanted.

    Hes just that kind of guy. So so passionate about the gamer we love.

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    If only the kindly Mr Ashley would write off that 130M we owe him things really would be looking healthy.

  • 41 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Jail hes never asked for it back and I dont see him doing so. I think that if there ever comes a time when he wants to sell that will be part of the deal.

    Its a bit unfair to ask someone to write off £130m though dont you think.

    I know politicians do it all the time with the public purse but when you consider Villa was bought for only £60m it does seem a bit unlikely Ashley becomes mother Theresa ha ha.

    At the minute though he is the best owner we could possibly have.

    He lets Rafa and Charnley run the club how they want. All he asks is that they only use what they have.

    Rafa is a world class manager and has a reputation for getting players cheap and selling them dear whilst winning everything in sight so our future looks very very bright indeed.

    I know some want Ashley to put his hand in his pocket but very very very few owners do that. In fact most take a percentage out.

    That is something Ashley hasnt done whereas Shepherd and Hall were terrible for it.

    So in my eyes he is perfect for us.

    Thats not to say he hasnt made mistakes because he has. Hundreds of them.

    His biggest one IMO was not employing a top manager from the offset. Even the head coach route would have been successful if he had brought in a top coninental head coach.

    He wouldnt have had half the problems hes had if he had did that.

  • 42 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    funloving
    Why is it unfair for him to write it off?He loaned himself it after all

  • 43 bettyswallocks // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM

    Jib….. Heaven forbid we won’t be still in the Championship in 5 seasons time but if we were what would the payments be then?

  • 44 NUFCPaul // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:38 PM

    I see Yaya Toure has been left out of Man City’s Champions League squad. Considering the major huff he went into over not getting a birthday cake, imagine his face finding out he’d been left out of the squad!

  • 45 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:56 PM

    WWSBRD you know why ha ha.

    Yes he owns the club and yes he loaned the club money but they are different entities.

    The money he loaned could have been spent doing something else he wants. Whether its buying a company, a yacht or a good night at the casino it is still money he could have earmarked for something else.

    In fact he could have bought a few small companies and brand names for that kind of money and in this period of time and with Ashleys history it would have probably earned him five to 10 times that amount by now.

    He didnt though, he treat it as dead money and put it into the club. He never asked for it back nor has he ever charged interest on it.

    Personally I see that as a good turn band know many disagree with that view point but like I say £170m could have earned him a major wedge by now.

    So I think its ludicrous expecting a cake after you have already eaten all of the ones on the table.

    Its his dosh, hes not asking for it back and its doing us no harm. We dont pay interest on it.

    In my eyes be thankful he hasnt asked us to repay it. No chance him writing it off.

    I mean, seriously, would you? If the shoe was on the other foot?

    I know I wouldn’t and I love the toon to death.

    I only judghe folk on how I would do it myself. I know no other way.

  • 46 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 3:59 PM

    bettyswallocks Brighton a promotion contender recently purchased their all time record signing for £4m.

    That shows how much you get if you have been down in the championship a while.

    Next to nowt

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:00 PM

    fle,
    Like I said I’m worn out from the whole Ashley saga and can’t be bothered to debate it any longer but you do not go from being one of the worst owners in the league according to every poll, pundit and fan to the best we could possibly have because he hired a top manager to save his investment going completely down the pan. Not selling off every available asset and liquidating us does not make him a top nice guy.

  • 48 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:01 PM

    WWSDRD £130m ofc not £170m. Dont know why I put that figure in

  • 49 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM

    funloving
    But either way he decided to put that 130 mill into the company he owned…club didn’t force him to buy it yet it’s now liable for 130 mill for either Ashley’s decision or mistake

    As for me? I wouldn’t of bought the club knowing id have to double the price to service its debt

  • 50 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:12 PM

    Jail its more to do with that he never takes money out for himself. Most of the rest do. Some clubs even pay off loans for other ventures their owners have.

    The problem I see with him and the low opinion is that he has employed absolute and I mean no question about it, absolute muppets to work on what is actually quitye a sensible plan.

    All I am saying is that if he had employed top guys at the beginning, which no doubt about it, he should have, we would probably be saying we had one of the best owners around.

    Instead he brought in hated figures like wise, upsety Shearer, employed the Joke Kinnear and sacked fan favourites Keegan and Hughton.

    Not to mention the foul mouthed, classless cluelless sacked manager from lower league southampton Pardew.

    Then the even more clueless (if it was possible and it evidently was) Carver and then finally we have a nest egg, we can challenge so we bring in a guy who couldnt even get derby promoted even though they were the biggest spenders and expect him to turn us into world beaters.

    There is good reason to hate the guy. There is a point of view that no one could be that incompetent and after the initial grief he got he did it on purpose. That is understandable too.

    All I am saying is that if he had brought in a top guy from the very beginning (I suggested Deschamps at the time) after sacking Allerdyce many might look at him in a completely different way.

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:17 PM

    The most ironic part is that Ashley is going to be credited with the most successful period in our modern history while being the owner who actually wanted success least of all. Funny old game!

  • 52 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM

    WWBSRD I would have. I would have given the loan on provision that 10 percent of all transfer fees received come off it and 20% interest per annum is charged on what is left and I love the toon.

    I would only have awarded myself half the bonuses Freddie got though. Even I am not that greedy ha ha.

    But I would have also turned us into a global force. I would have employed a top manager from the beginning. Someone who is used to winning everything, used to developing average players into good and good into world class.

    Someone who gets top dollar for average and sees the untapped market for good.

    Someone like benitez.

  • 53 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:26 PM

    funloving
    And had Ashley done that he wouldn’t be hated but he didn’t what he did so was…well let’s not get into it eh

    JfA
    It’s a funny old world. Though we haven’t seen much success yet so maybe he’ll sell up and bugger off when we are promoted and we can have nothing staining any memories

  • 54 bettyswallocks // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM

    I am also sick of discussing Ashley and at last and long overdue this current campaign is not going to be all about him.

    I’m sure he has gone through many changes of heart, ambition and plans since he has owned our club. One phase was unquestionably that it was impossible to compete in the PL against the likes of Abramovic and Sovereign State owned clubs without spending mega bucks which he chose not to do.

    I am hoping that Rafa will convince him that it is possible to build a winning team and maintain a sensible structure.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    fle,
    Jeezus, that’s some tick boxes of what not to do to be the worst owner. To be concise, if my aunty had bollocks………

  • 56 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    WWSBRD yeah you are right he didnt and yeah I know its a touchy subject and will leave it but am curious about something you said in your last post, so will leave ity after then. if thats ok with you mate.

    You said “Though we haven’t seen much success yet so maybe he’ll sell up and bugger off when we are promoted and we can have nothing staining any memories”

    Is that what you really want?

    Benitez is in control and Ashley lets them get on with it.

    Benitez, I have no doubt will win things and turn us into a major force. I base this ‘no doubt’ feeling on everything he has done before he came to us.

    If ashley did sell once we went up and lets say hypothetically sold to Shephard (there are a lot worse than shephard out there so he is a good example), the first thing he would do is replace Benitez with his own man and would never just let people get on with running it.

    Would this not hamper our chances of success?

    If Ashley stayed and we won things would you still be happy if he packed up?

    You see the way I look at it, its not so much getting rid of Ashley. What you are actually doing is getting rid of Benitez and the power he has at the toon.

    Then chancing it that the new owner will know more than Benitez and run the club better.

    That to me is a worrying scenario.

    I look forward to your response but as promised thats it from me about Ashley. Its a topic us toon fans have done to death and then like suckers for punishment have done to death again.

  • 57 bettyswallocks // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    Jib…… Sorry to be a pain but how much would we receive in season 6?

  • 58 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    It’s easy to forget in this euphoric era that Ashley could have done all this years ago before he dragged the club through the McCardew Years when we were clamouring for a decent manager all the way back then. There have been many failed experiments at budget premier manager setups along the way. I hope this experience stays with Ashley and he doesn’t hanker for some more cost-cutting if and when we get back to the PL.

  • 59 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    funloving
    Yeah is happily see the back of him, the next owner could be bad but could be great but right now we have a poor unpredictable owner

    U say the next owner may want to replace Rafa well so might Ashley once we are back in the PL if he reverts to what he has consistently been in regards to us

    There’s no guarantees and tbf a new owner coming in might not think getting shot of CL winning Rafa is a good idea especially if, as u are theorising, everything is looking good and we are en route to winning trophies

  • 60 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    WWSBRD If Ashley got rid of Benitez then he would deserve everything that comes his way. Even the pro Ashley camp would go into meltdown.

    Most new owners get rid of the current manager no matter how good he is. Sometimes with absolutely ridiculous appointments.

    But like promised, onto what we should be talking about, i.e. footy.

    How do you all see Mitro this season? Question for you as well Jail and sorry didnt reply to your last comment but Ashley has been done to death and I think I answered your concerns with my other posting.

    Personally I see Murphy as the main back up striker and Mitro behind him. I am actually surprised we didnt sell him and buy another Gayle type CF for cover. Murphy is all the cover we need for tactical substitutions to change the game IMO.

    I know Mitro has some fans on here, of which unfortunately I am not one, so am interested in what you two think about him.

  • 61 Hail Wor Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM

    When you do the sums it’s obvious last season’s money was spent in advance last summer and in January in a bid to retain PL status knowing the riches that would flow should we achieve that.

    So please don’t begin any myths that quickly have a habit of becoming fact, for then those that believe their own fantasy facts to then become annoyed when the reality doesn’t square with what they think should be happening. We do not have £30m + £70m sitting waiting in the bank.

    Also, there are other things to pay for besides transfer, y’know?

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    fle,
    I thought Murphy was back up to Mitro but somebody put forward a theory that Rafas signings aren’t back up to anyone but part of a squad rotation where every player will be used. There has to be exceptions to this mind, especially if Gayle for example is scoring in every game. And if every time Mitro/Murphy come on or start they cause havoc and score then one of them will have to sit out for awhile. I think the players assembled are aware of the set up and are obviously happy to sign up. The word purple is banned at the training ground, no Prince songs or Silk Cut allowed. Milk tray has been replaced with after eight mints and Turkish delight is frowned upon.

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    Who’s the pro Ashley camp? You and Jib, even bills son came round.

  • 64 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:12 PM

    Hail I dont think we paid in advance. We never do. I think it was money that had been accrued from tv money and player sales in previous years.

    I do agree on your other point though. We dont have £100m sitting in the bank.

    Most of the £70m will have went on wages, agent fees, new contracts, refurbs, policing costs, maintenance etc etc etc.

    The £30m we only got £6m this year from too.

    I think we have probably spent £20m to 25m from the £70m this year. Maybe even more.

    Its hard to know without knowing how many players sold are paid in installments and how many installments we received for previous players sold in previous years.

  • 65 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    funloving
    I think JfA is right it’s a squad rotation plan rather than explicit back up players but I think Mitro will see more game than Murphy but I don’t know much about Murphy so who knows

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    WW…,
    Poor j?sper was on the verge of a return when Rafa the rotator dropped Lascelles until he said he’s just an important captain in the dressing room. No rotating captuns for Rafa.

  • 67 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:23 PM

    wait, he doesnt have to start the same 10 players ever week>?? doe you think Pardew/Carver/Maca know this?

    isnt it amazing that every week there is some suspense on who is starting????

  • 68 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    Jail there are a few around. I said I would leave the Ashley talk though and you nearly had me off again ha ha.

    Im not in the pro camp btw but Im also not in the anti camp. I try to be objective.

    I see some things he has done really well. Things I always wanted at the toon long before he came.

    I see other things that …well……just take the pi##

    But you bringing him back up and me responding, I see loads of people stuck behind their Pc’s laptops and phones groaning now ha ha.

    With respect to Mitro and the whole rotation thing, I said thats the way he did it when he first came.

    But Mitro and Murphy are different.

    Benitez usually likes a target man type to come on during the game. Its very very rare he starts with one.

    So that means they are tactical subs. They arent getting as many minutes as others so dont need to be dropped to be refreshed and that to me is a problem we are going to have.

    Both will understand being tactical subs. Neither will understand never being called upon.

    If you play both equally then both will not have a lot of game time. Its a big problem IMO.

    Some automatically think hes going to go 442.

    Theres no chance. You dont go to the latest top coaches conference and resort to footy and tactics that was played nearly 60 years ago.

    For starters you dont even have wingers anymore. Not real ones. All of what would have been wingers were converted into inverted wingers or fullbacks.

  • 69 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:26 PM

    Jail
    Has Jesper been on since that captain thing? Tbf I didn’t disagree with him haha

  • 70 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:30 PM

    WWSBRD Murphy was championship leading goalscorer with 27 goals in 2014-2015.

    My money would have been on him being the leading goalscorer last season too but for the fact he was out injured for half a season.

    He is one of the rare ones. A target man that can score goals.

    Hes not fast, hes not even great but he knows where the net is, holds a ball well and works tirelessly in the front channels.

    I would say if one of them has to be the tactical sub then it has to be the one that is proven at this level.

    Thats all he is mind. he will never be a premiership player but at this level hes top drawer. A better signing than Mccormack IMO and a third of the price too.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    WW…,
    No, that was it for him.
    Taco,
    To be fair McCardew allowed themselves to be in a situation where there wasn’t enough players to do otherwise.

  • 72 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    fle,
    If we’d had a Murphy type striker against Fulham and the ref wasn’t a cnut we’d have started the season with a win. The game was crying out for Mitro and he wasn’t available. It won’t be the last time either.

  • 73 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Jesper has banned all Kylie Minogue songs in his house, just in case.

  • 74 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:37 PM

    funloving
    True but Mitro hasn’t played in thevChampionship yet and has a future with us. I’d expect to see Mitro starting some games this season whereas Murphy would surprise me if he started

    I could be wrong of course but Mitro has done some good things at a young age so I don’t see Rafa not giving him a chance then it’s up to how he performs which is up for discussion

    Though currently Gayle is starting if he’s fit enough without hesitation for me

  • 75 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    JfA
    Bloody hell haha thought he’d come back wasn’t that huge of an issue was it

  • 76 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Competition for places, that’s what rafa said he was signing the likes of Murphy for. In the McCardew Era the incumbents were happy to toe the Purple line, knowing the gulf between the first and second choice in any position was so unpalatable, the team picked itself every week for years. Hence Willo on the Back Stick. Captain Colo. Gini the Ghost…you get the idea.

  • 77 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    I think it was just an avalanche of leg-pulling that did for poor Jesper. He’d barely recovered from Jails ‘Jäê§për’ routine. It all got lost in translation and just span out of control oh my word there it is again…

  • 78 funlovingexpress // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    Thats the problem though isnt it lads. Most just accept that Mitro will be missing games. Can we afford to lose points when he is sent off? We lost a fair few points last season due to people getting sent off. (not just mitro ofc).

    Then other games where we were missing those players and had to play people out of position.

    Points that would have definately ensured our survival.

    Do we just accept it will happen to him? Will we be just as happy if he costs us an automatic place?

    Gayle IMO is everthing a CF should be. There are times when you need target men and Fulham was an excellent example but it was Mitros fault he wasnt playing in that game.

    I still think we should have come out with something in that game but it would have been a lot easier if we could have changed tactics.

    We are used to managers having no plan B. Rafa is the opposite. He counts on his suns to win him games. He gets his team to play one way then changes it around so the opposition dont have a clue how to beat him.

    Whether its closing shop when 2-0 up or going for the jugular, Rafa always has a plan worked out to destroy the team he is up against and make sure we get the win.

    Sometimes its ugly, sometimes its an absolute pleasure but its nearly always a result.

  • 79 bettyswallocks // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Poor Jesper………. I really think if he was a genuine fan he would have buried the hatchet by now . Come on Jesper give it another go son.

    http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp17839210.jpg

  • 80 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    funloving
    100% no we don’t accept that u punish him got it and expect him to learn if he doesn’t then get rid but right now I’d let Rafa see if he can teach him

  • 81 LGFUAD21 // Sep 2, 2016 at 5:57 PM

    Maddison.

    In reference to your first comment. I think that is why we have been wise this summer.

    With the Moussa money, we will be about £30m up then add on 3 lots of parachute payments coming in plus promotion money.

    I think we should have enough in the pot, if we go up to do enough business to stay up.

    Looking at the squad.

    Keepers
    Lascelles
    Mbemba
    Dummet
    Shelvey
    Colback
    Ritchie
    Gayle
    Anita

    These can all do a job in the premier league. Not to mention the ones that could develop from a seasons down like Mitro.

    Then there are unknowns like most of the new signings that are maybes.

  • 82 LGFUAD21 // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:01 PM

    I think Mitro gets it too tough.

    He did miss some golden chances but he did alright for a 21 year old moving into the Premier league from Belgium.

    I’m really hoping he can use this season like AC did when we went down and gear up for a stormer in the Prem next season if we go up.

  • 83 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    Clearly jesper has been offended by certain peoples on this blog. Also he has a young child to help take care of. I would have thought his chest hair royalties from Manly Men Inc. would have more than compensated him but you never know. I must accept partial responsibility also. I was hoping to invite him to Vancouver but then we moved twice in two years which was a horrible experience let me tell you. Moving all those honey badgers, eagles, Kamodo dragons, whippets, budgies, etc. etc. Very tiring.

  • 84 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    Vis a vis the Mitro situation he has sorely missed his mum. And we didn’t get him a puppy. He’s just a frustrated young’un who needs guidance. I’m sending him some soothing music and a selection of comfy thongs for hanging aboot at his flat……

  • 85 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    Where’s Mr. Tuff these days? Possibly taking his hols? I think we’re missing his biting comments and lively exchanges with Jib, welshie etc. etc.

  • 86 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:21 PM

    Ibiza isn’t on as much either. I may have inadvertently offended him with various comments about sand fleas, budgie smuggling, etc. etc. It was only intended in jest Ibiza. I will accept the judgment of a panel of experts though. The usual punishment is a thorough lashing with a crisp lettuce leaf at dawn. They have something similar in Singapore I believe……

  • 87 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    I think Mr T is just steeling himself for another of Ians nightly fetish runs with Belfast. While we are all having dinner I believe it’s Ians custom to prepare by dragging on his leopard print posing pouch and unfolding the Visqueen carpet in the dining room before spraying the baby oil on. Not a mental image I like to conjure up personally but there it is.

  • 88 TyneMouth // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    B&B @35
    The Evening Standard article wasn’t written by ‘arry, the ‘writer’ was called Tom Collomosse, (… Comatose perhaps)
    The LES is a cut and paste rag, Harry’s column is possibly ghost written.
    Regarding interest rates on outstanding debts, and that MA would consider not demanding interest suggests a degree of benevolence few have witnessed.
    MA pays cash upfront to avoid interest charges, ie the £13M from Crystal Palace will probably be paid in installments, the interest rate and the schedule will be set by MA, it’s the way the world works, try asking your bank for a £30M mortgage payable over 5 years, ‘go compare’…

  • 89 firebug666 // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:29 PM

    Aye G2 you have much to answer for, coffee stains, curious or disgusting looks from our lass as I laugh out loud, or spit coffee over her, It’s all your fault and no mistake.

  • 90 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    A posing pouch Tsunki mate? Can the man not find a decent thong that fits him? Banana hammocks are not in vogue anymore over here. Does this Ian personage not stay in touch with the changing times? He sounds a lot like Ashley to me. Nothing to do now that Rafa has taken over. Wandering around the castle in his tatty old dressing gown. Phoning up Llambeezee and pretending he’s Joe Kinnear. That poor old sod….success has ruined him.

  • 91 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    That sounds serious firebug mate. Throw yourself at her feet immediately and beg forgiveness. Then pose naked in your favourite bedroom slippers for her. That’s bound to cheer her up mate!

  • 92 firebug666 // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    G2

    or send her into fits of giggles.

  • 93 Tsunki // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:38 PM

    ***shudders***

  • 94 firebug666 // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    Tsunki

    Why ***shudders*** there is nothing wrong with my bedroom slippers. 😀

  • 95 Ron Knee // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    From the Chronic:-

    “Club football takes a break this weekend for Newcastle United to accomadate international football.”

    “Accomadate”!!!

  • 96 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    That sounds about right for the Chronicle Ron mate. Their spell checker is an untidy little man with poor eyesight in a dimly lit basement.

  • 97 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    When I’m trying to impress a lady friend I usually wear my Spanish Conquistador Thong and perform some of my best known improvisational blog dancing. It just blows them away mates….

  • 98 firebug666 // Sep 2, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Moussa Sissoko personal message to Newcastle fans via Twitter:

    ‘With all my heart…

    As you know, a new adventure begins for me.

    Despite the difficulties, I decided to join the Tottenham club. This choice was a necessity and I needed a new challenge.

    While I know that this decision can make sad or disappointed Newcastle fans, I want them to know that I will never forget. I’ve always played with heart for them and the club.

    I’ve enjoyed the atmosphere of St James’ Park. I’ve liked living in Newcastle and I’ve found a warmth that contrasted with the cold of this English north.

    This heat around the club, initiated by the fans, has often warmed my heart while I was far from my friends and my family.

    There were good and bad times.

    Relegation was clearly an emotional pain for the whole city. But the heart of this city beats for this club and I have no doubt it will come back very quickly to the top level. It deserves it.

    This heart I felt it beat, scold, laugh, love and hate. But it is brave and warm. Personally, my three years at Newcastle will remain unforgettable. I will never forget it. And it will forever be in my heart and a part of me.

    Thank you all!

    Moussa’

  • 99 GeordieTwo // Sep 2, 2016 at 7:02 PM

    Piss off Sissy!!!!




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