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Newcastle’s Graham Carr And Arsenal After Sunderland Forward

8:39 am, Wednesday, September 7th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 68 Comments

Swedish publication Expressen are reporting that both Arsenal and Newcastle United are two of the big clubs interested in 17 year-old Sunderland forward Joel Asoro.

At the Friends Arena on Sunday night when Asoro made his debut for the Sweden U-21 side, starting the game against Spain in the 1-1 draw, there were a host of scouts watching the game.

They included Newcastle’s Chief Scout Graham Carr and Arsenal’s Bobby Bennett, who is responsible for scouting in Scandinavia.

Joel Asoro

Joel Asoro – Sunderland’s 17 year-old striker

The Swedish press has since reported that PSG, Milan, Inter-Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Valencia and Lyon were represented at the game and the buzz was all about Asoro.

And apparently the Sunderland 17-year-old was very impressive on the night.

Joel has already played a couple of times for the Sunderland first team this season and is the youngest Swede ever to play in the Premier League – he doesn’t turn 18 until next April.

He played 17 times for the Sweden U-17 side and scored a massive 12 goals and now he’s played once for the Sweden U-21 side when only 17 – he’s that good.

Asoro was signed by Sunderland from IF Brommapojkarna last summer in August – and Graham Carr is even quoted in the Expressen article as saying the following:

“He already plays for Sunderland, but I was impressed a lot yesterday.”

That’s strange in itself for Carr to be quoted.

But new Sunderland manager David Moyes values the youngster highly – and why would the Black Cats ever want to sell their top youngster – well unless a club comes in with a huge offer for him.

Come to think of it – that’s possible – and if Manchester United are willing to pay out a ridiculous £100M for Paul Pogba, then some of the big clubs with more money than sense could make a huge offer for Asoro.

That would be the only way he would leave Sunderland and Newcastle are wise with their money these days and they would hardly be one of those clubs.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

68 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:45 AM


  • 2 Ian Toon // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    I really don’t follow the majority of any of your post! . You need to re state your case more clearly. I’m not sure where I was wrong at all it was intended to illustrate Ashley’s historic and likely present thinking. It’s my opinion.- not fact. You constantly confuse the two and add your own spin.

    55Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    Ian Toon,
    Why are you pointing out an old argument that clearly showed you and so many others were wrong about Ashley’s motives. “He’s a winner, of course he wants us doing well”
    “a successful Newcastle is a successful SD”
    Even after we got told we didn’t do cups there were a few who still tried to cling to those statements above. Your bills son’s, Low Fell mags, and TDsarf’s couldn’t even defend the indefensible anymore.

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    You pointed out a post you made four years ago in which said that you thought Ashley wanted success based on Arsenals model.

  • 4 welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:58 AM

    Jail, you tell others to forget the past, yet you still go on about Pardew and Mcclaren.

  • 5 welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    I thought we have moved on from those two managers, we have moved on from other things like sissoko, you don’t see anyone mentioning his name anymore.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    I haven’t told anyone to forget the past and I am just posting on the relevant topics that others have left. Somebody posts that they didn’t see the cynicism others did in the transfer model before Rafa came. I posted my opinion on that. Ian Toon repeated a long winded post from four years ago, I posted my opinion on that also. Shall we all just keep posts to how god damn ugly Gareth Bale is and to whining about tye lack of signings.

  • 7 Ian Toon // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Jail- He still does it’s the implementation that has failed. That’s my opinion. He probably knows little more about football now than he did when he first bought the club. He has relied on the wrong people but hopefully on a trial and error basis has got lucky. The skill base in SD is very different. He became cautious through being burnt and we’ve had a few false dawns.
    Don’t bring historic posters into a debate with me only Beattie and bills do I recall as having a good understanding of football. It’s like trying to tell me that Martinez is a good manager because he’s Belquim’s and to forget his lack of man management of Barclay, Stones etc.c
    Hendricks leaving will help because he had been outstanding this season.

  • 8 Budge123 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    Still can’t believe Gullit dropped Shearer but I suppose it’s time I moved on.

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    It wasn’t just the implementation that was flawed though. It was the whole ethos. You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. It defies logic and eventually got us relegated.

  • 10 WestOzMag // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:27 PM

    I wonder if sissoko do well at Spurs.

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    Think he will be another cabaye, debuchy, ba, cisse, etc.
    Graeme // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:31 PM

    Welshie, Who cares mate – he’s gone, not out problem!!!

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:35 PM


    Just wondering that’s all mate.

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    I thought we have moved on from those two managers, we have moved on from other things like sissoko, you don’t see anyone mentioning his name anymore.

    Except for you!!!!! which was from only a few threads back. Hmmm someone’s memory has failed

  • 11 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:13 AM

    Budge 123
    Sir he started it.

  • 12 welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:16 AM


    I’ve got a bad memory, what did you say.

  • 13 welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    Jail, my mistake if you haven’t told others to move on, i thought you did.

  • 14 Ian Toon // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    Jail- Just Stop and think.. Last time as I have to go.
    By implementation, it’s the implementation of the Arsenal / Wenger model and all it entails. Eg- for example. They have done well in the cup and managed on a smaller budget than many.
    It encompasses Wenger’s arrival at Arsenal – root and branch – top to bottom transformation of the club. Only fickle football fans would not appreciate just what he’s achieved. He will leave a legacy.

  • 15 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Arsenal have not been relegated twice in the space of 10 years, and they have won things, too.

  • 16 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:34 AM


    What part of the Arsenal model was the entirely avoidable relegation?

  • 17 Ian Toon // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    @15. !!!!!

    It’s the implementation that has failed not the “model”

  • 18 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    The implementation has failed for 10 years?

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Ours was nothing like the Arsenal model. They had a footballing style with ayers bought to fit their system while trying to compete with the best. Ours was the compete polar opposite to the Arsenal model.

  • 20 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:38 AM


    You mean that there was nothing wrong the plan but that it failed disastrously?

  • 21 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    So let’s recap.

    For 10 years a masterplan is in place that only requires an eventual relegation before we are in “exactly the right place to start.”

  • 22 Ian Toon // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    Band B – It wasn’t implemented at NUFC . I believe we’ve been relegated 4 times in your lifetime. Forgive me but Ashley has not appreciated the need to hire the right people and give them their head. Hopefully this time- there’s nowt wrong with the model.

    Maybe this time Benitez will be given time and financial backing but within the confines of self sufficiency.

  • 23 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    But Ian,

    But I presume the plan included the near fatal decision to hire Carver and the fatal decision to hire MCClaren to implement it?
    Or did they hire themselves?

  • 24 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    How about another plan?
    We got relegated through sheer blind arrogance and the plan is only visible as far as a commitment to get promoted with a vastly streamlined squad.

  • 25 lesh // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    Surely the Arsenal model’s based on aiming to win trophies whilst being reasonably prudent when investing in players whereas Ashley’s interpretation of it was to being frugal and make profits. Both clubs had the same aims (profit) but the means of doing so, completely different.

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    You’ve spent the morning g arguing that Ashley wanted us ran like Arsenal but never managed to implement it correctly because he never hired the right people. The fact is that he wanted us to be run on the Ashley model and the right people would have told him it will be a complete disaster which will result in relegation. Hence the need to hire people who will a) to what he tells them to.
    b) tell him what he wants to hear while rearranging the deck chairs. Not an ice berg in sight Mike, nope not here Mike, it’s all plain sailing.

  • 27 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Unfortunately the fit and proper test for football club owners has no section to ascertain whether the tested person actually knows anything about footy.
    We all think we could do a great job owning a club (that’s how blogs like this exist) why should self-made wealthy men with which the game is littered , be any different?
    Jail and BandB bang on about Ashley when actually the game is full of guys like him.
    They twist words from the club to suit their own perceptions of club policies and are usually miles off the mark.

  • 28 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Meanwhile, over at Mr Ashley’s other business, CEO Dave Forsey is soldiering on after being roundly landed with all the blame for failed implementation of the plan in a company report yesterday.
    As is SD chairman Keith Hellawell, who’s resignation has been turned down despite widespread criticism from shareholders that he is a puppet without power.
    Stocks fell by 10 per on the opening of trading.

  • 29 firebug666 // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM


    I have to say mate I totally disagree with you. Words have not been twisted at all, facts simply stand out and until now this club has been a failure. Managers with DOF’s choosing who will sign, Managers becoming head coaches with no say on transfers, Idiots leading other idiots, fail fail fail!

    That’s just how it was, the clubs research showed we should not try to win cups as that leads to relegation. but with every failed season we were always heading in that direction anyway.

    Of cause it may all be rosy in you little world, but the rest of us have to live with the pain our club forced on us in the real world.

  • 30 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    And as if by request BandB demonstrates her real motive for coming on a Newcastle football blog and berating the owner.

  • 31 Mister Tuff // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    Wow – here’s me thinking that the “fuel” driving blogs was about matters of opinion about players, mangers, tactics etc that different individuals hold.
    Now we have Jib Jibberish saying the reason is that we all think we could run a football club. I personally have never had that thought and suspect others haven’t either.
    Some folk are way off on a tangent about the real world – it is quite frightening really.

  • 32 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM



    Well I’m not a Sunderland supporting troll who, of course, loves Ashley, as they all do.
    One who also can’t stand Shearer and thinks Keegan was the worst thing that could have happened as it gave Geordies ideas above there station.
    I would say you motives are somewhat clearer than mine.

    You forgot your cock-up over Mag92 led to me discovering some mutual acquaintances of the Mackem persusion.

  • 33 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Sorry Ian,

    Your name is in there by mistake.

  • 34 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:42 AM


    Words have been twisted on this thread

    “Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM
    You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. ”

    The cups Jail not anything else.

    The cups policy is exactly what Arsenal have done in the past – the fact that their kids were good enough to win cupties is their good fortune.

  • 35 Mister Tuff // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    I was not really singing from the roof tops about our signings. No real household names no superstars. But after Benitez has explained it is a matter of horses for courses for this season with the sole objective of promotion – then I’m slightly more at ease with his plan.

    Not really convinced that the majority of signings could step into a PL side -next season.
    Going to be interesting though – first part of the plan – getting these guys playing as champions elect – can Rafa do it.

  • 36 firebug666 // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM


    “Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM
    You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. ”

    I don’t see what you want to apparently make up from the above post mate. What did we try to win?

    When did our team enter the pitch with any passion or drive? We never looked like we wanted to win anything.

    Jail and I suspect many others myself included feel that the model was Premiership Survival nothing else, Try to finish in the top 10 so that players and staff could claim their bonus.

    It was all about that, Bonuses! It was not about giving the fans hope, it was not about playing for the fans or the glory of challenging in the league or cups, it was all about getting that bonus, and most know that.

  • 37 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    mag92 // Nov 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Gaol is of the mackem persuasion!

    5 Markaccus // Nov 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM


    Comments like that bring the blog down. Thats just stupid, mate. Calling toon fans makems is purile

  • 38 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:52 AM


    I think ritchie and diame would be good players in the prem for us, but as you say, the majority have plenty to do before they convince anyone that they are PL quality.
    The advantage is that most of the signings theoretically have their best years ahead of them, and hopefully rafa and co will turn them into excellent players.

  • 39 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    That’s queer Jib.

    Is that you admitting that you were Mag92.
    The same Mag92 who said he was postman to a prominent Mackem family, and vanished after I pointed that was what Jeff From Benwell had also claimed to be………
    I thought you had nothing to do with Jeff From Benwell.

  • 40 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM


    Why have you reposted a comment by me (under my old name markaccus) from 2 years ago?

  • 41 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    Oh dear….too many aliases to keep track of….

  • 42 firebug666 // Sep 7, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    YCMIU / Tuff

    I think by the time we are promoted a lot of our players will be up to speed, and with a few addition (not a major clear out) they will be ready for the Prem.

    I fancy a lot of the players we have now once gelled will look very good this season, lets hope the likes of Atsu, Lazaar, Hanley, Yedlin etc find their feet and form in this league as they could be our future in the prem.

  • 43 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM


    pass me the kleenex drama queen.

    5th place and quarter final of the Europa league – eliminated by the eventual winners and a dodgy ref.

    This is what I mean by distortion.

  • 44 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    That hurts………

    Ha Ha Ha

  • 45 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM


    Yeah i would hope and expect that to be the case. As long as nobody drops the baby, we could be enjoying some actual success at nufc over the next 5 years or so.

  • 46 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    I wonder how long it will be before someone who only posts to praise Ashley once in a blue moon pops up to tell me to leave Jeff/Jib alone?

  • 47 Mister Tuff // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    I anticipate that those who complain about the past and bringing the past up – will be on quickly to berate those bringing up posts from 4 years and 2years ago.
    Oh – probably not – just remembered they are all “mates” and never criticise one another – double standards at play.

    Even Jib Jibberish has come in to support his blog boss Ian Toon – had thought he might not .
    They just post – views deliberately contrary to those of certain other posters. All dare I say members of the King Percy Dance Club.
    “Ye knaa who yees are”.

  • 48 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Yeah, wow. The glorious days of finishing 5th and going on to not actually win anything. What were we thinking? How could we forget such roaring success?

  • 49 Ibizatoon // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    BandB…Leave him alone…you don’t know where he’s been.

    Europa League was a signal of our ambition to win things? Is that why the club slammed on the breaks after this planned success? I seem to recall we’d punched severely above our weight….that was a lesson learnt.

  • 50 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM


    Ready?…. and a 1, and a 2, and a 1234
    Throw those shapes. Bust them funky moves. Get that groove on. Et.c

  • 51 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    But I DO know where he’s been Ibiza.

  • 52 Jib // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Too much gin my dear
    I have never claimed to be a postman
    And I posted the Mag92 stuff to show he used the same phrase as BandB

  • 53 firebug666 // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:11 AM


    As usual you bring up the 5th place finish, that took place before the inept one and the idiots from the power rooms decimated the team, and failed to strengthen.

    Europe was ok, but it was one season never to be seen again, I fail to see what your point is. As for being a drama queen, in your opinion, does that not just show your own limitation, I understand how hard your life must be, when having to travel a rose tinted path inside your own head because people in the real world won’t talk to you, As usual to drop back to childish insults.

    I have no doubt at all that people in the real world avoid contact with you as you saunter down to the offy for a couple of bottles of White Lightening and a pouch of Old Holbourn,

    Grow up, and try to debate without the insults and maybe you will earn a little more respect………Oh wait, keyboard warriors never can.

  • 54 Ibizatoon // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    BandB…So steriliser is on hand?

  • 55 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:15 AM


    But BandB never used that phrase. BandB presented arguments that in some ways suggest you dislike any thought of nufc being successful (your thoughts on keegan for example). This would suggest a preferance for the great unwashed. What Mag92 said to Jail (or gaol as he called him) was simply purile and had no supporting evidence.

  • 56 Mister Tuff // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:15 AM

    YCMIU/Firebug – re Rafas’ plan.
    I personally would have gone for buying in big names (if they would sign) assuming that they would whop Championship teams, deliver our aims and slip seamlessly into the PL next season.

    I now see Rafas’ plan and see that he is somewhat playing the odds – assembling those who will give us a better chance (as compared to my superstar plan).

    This break surely must mean – they should be clicking better on the training field – with improvements on matchdays.
    I will tip my hat to Rafa if he pulls this off this season.

  • 57 BandB // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:19 AM


    He started posting (how ironic) as Jib after he was banned by Ed.
    Always denied he ever had anything to do with the twin posties of North Shield with the same customers.
    But he managed to lay hands on quotations by the long-forgotten Mag92 in 10 minutes. I’m not sure why he felt the need to show that a poster who definitely wasn’t him mind, had once posted anti-mackem sentiments.

  • 58 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:20 AM


    If rafa manages to win the championship title,I may consider doing the Pardew Goal Dance in fenwicks window. I will even wear a silver wig.

  • 59 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM


  • 60 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:24 AM


  • 61 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:25 AM


  • 62 Ron Knee // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Jib/Jeff worked as a postman? He informed the blog that he used to work at Lloyds bank.

  • 63 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:30 AM


    Maybe he sorted their mail 😀

  • 64 hibbit // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    said he was a professor of modern history

  • 65 Average_Contents // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    Let’s not forget it was also a lecturer.

    Oh and it had a BFPO address too.

    Busy bee eh!

  • 66 Ibizatoon // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    BandB…I remember Jib’s arrival very well. He didn’t get why people thought he was Jeff, even though he arrived with the same arguments, stories and grudges as Jeff.

    YCMIU…Your left (or actually, i imagine it’s your right) armpit hair seems to be all over the place. Not sure why your other armpit is hair free. Either way, nice moves.

  • 67 Average_Contents // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:35 AM

    Or was it a professor? Or was that ian/carl/jack/sack?

    It’s very confusing trying to keep up.

    I wonder how they manage it?

    Squirming time no doubt.

  • 68 Mister Tuff // Sep 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    Jib Jibberish ( blog pest) also said he lectured in Modern European History and another not so long back was that he lectured in Psychology (if I recall correctly).

    On this basis of pure fantasy (blatant lies) I would like to inform the blog of my credentials I am really Professor Tuff, a well known brain surgeon. At the weekends I assist Formula I teams to hone their engine to max performance as I am also a Professor of Mechanical Engineering.
    During my tea breaks at home I nip into my garden shed where I am building a space ship.

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