Newcastle’s Graham Carr And Arsenal After Sunderland Forward


Swedish publication Expressen are reporting that both Arsenal and Newcastle United are two of the big clubs interested in 17 year-old Sunderland forward Joel Asoro.

At the Friends Arena on Sunday night when Asoro made his debut for the Sweden U-21 side, starting the game against Spain in the 1-1 draw, there were a host of scouts watching the game.

They included Newcastle’s Chief Scout Graham Carr and Arsenal’s Bobby Bennett, who is responsible for scouting in Scandinavia.

Joel Asoro

Joel Asoro – Sunderland’s 17 year-old striker

The Swedish press has since reported that PSG, Milan, Inter-Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Valencia and Lyon were represented at the game and the buzz was all about Asoro.

And apparently the Sunderland 17-year-old was very impressive on the night.

Joel has already played a couple of times for the Sunderland first team this season and is the youngest Swede ever to play in the Premier League – he doesn’t turn 18 until next April.

He played 17 times for the Sweden U-17 side and scored a massive 12 goals and now he’s played once for the Sweden U-21 side when only 17 – he’s that good.

Asoro was signed by Sunderland from IF Brommapojkarna last summer in August – and Graham Carr is even quoted in the Expressen article as saying the following:

“He already plays for Sunderland, but I was impressed a lot yesterday.”

That’s strange in itself for Carr to be quoted.

But new Sunderland manager David Moyes values the youngster highly – and why would the Black Cats ever want to sell their top youngster – well unless a club comes in with a huge offer for him.

Come to think of it – that’s possible – and if Manchester United are willing to pay out a ridiculous £100M for Paul Pogba, then some of the big clubs with more money than sense could make a huge offer for Asoro.

That would be the only way he would leave Sunderland and Newcastle are wise with their money these days and they would hardly be one of those clubs.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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68 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #1

    Next.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 7, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #2

    I really don’t follow the majority of any of your post! . You need to re state your case more clearly. I’m not sure where I was wrong at all it was intended to illustrate Ashley’s historic and likely present thinking. It’s my opinion.- not fact. You constantly confuse the two and add your own spin.

    55Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    Ian Toon,
    Why are you pointing out an old argument that clearly showed you and so many others were wrong about Ashley’s motives. “He’s a winner, of course he wants us doing well”
    “a successful Newcastle is a successful SD”
    Even after we got told we didn’t do cups there were a few who still tried to cling to those statements above. Your bills son’s, Low Fell mags, and TDsarf’s couldn’t even defend the indefensible anymore.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #3

    Ian,
    You pointed out a post you made four years ago in which said that you thought Ashley wanted success based on Arsenals model.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Sep 7, 2016 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #4

    Jail, you tell others to forget the past, yet you still go on about Pardew and Mcclaren.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #5

    I thought we have moved on from those two managers, we have moved on from other things like sissoko, you don’t see anyone mentioning his name anymore.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #6

    squelch,
    I haven’t told anyone to forget the past and I am just posting on the relevant topics that others have left. Somebody posts that they didn’t see the cynicism others did in the transfer model before Rafa came. I posted my opinion on that. Ian Toon repeated a long winded post from four years ago, I posted my opinion on that also. Shall we all just keep posts to how god damn ugly Gareth Bale is and to whining about tye lack of signings.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #7

    Jail- He still does it’s the implementation that has failed. That’s my opinion. He probably knows little more about football now than he did when he first bought the club. He has relied on the wrong people but hopefully on a trial and error basis has got lucky. The skill base in SD is very different. He became cautious through being burnt and we’ve had a few false dawns.
    Don’t bring historic posters into a debate with me only Beattie and bills do I recall as having a good understanding of football. It’s like trying to tell me that Martinez is a good manager because he’s Belquim’s and to forget his lack of man management of Barclay, Stones etc.c
    Hendricks leaving will help because he had been outstanding this season.

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  • Budge123

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #8

    Still can’t believe Gullit dropped Shearer but I suppose it’s time I moved on.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #9

    It wasn’t just the implementation that was flawed though. It was the whole ethos. You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. It defies logic and eventually got us relegated.

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  • WestOzMag

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #10

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:27 PM

    I wonder if sissoko do well at Spurs.

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:29 PM

    Think he will be another cabaye, debuchy, ba, cisse, etc.
    Graeme // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:31 PM

    Welshie, Who cares mate – he’s gone, not out problem!!!

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 6, 2016 at 11:35 PM

    Graeme

    Just wondering that’s all mate.

    welshgeordie9 // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    I thought we have moved on from those two managers, we have moved on from other things like sissoko, you don’t see anyone mentioning his name anymore.

    Except for you!!!!! which was from only a few threads back. Hmmm someone’s memory has failed

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  • Jib

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #11

    Budge 123
    Sir he started it.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #12

    WestOzMag

    I’ve got a bad memory, what did you say.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #13

    Jail, my mistake if you haven’t told others to move on, i thought you did.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #14

    Jail- Just Stop and think.. Last time as I have to go.
    By implementation, it’s the implementation of the Arsenal / Wenger model and all it entails. Eg- for example. They have done well in the cup and managed on a smaller budget than many.
    It encompasses Wenger’s arrival at Arsenal – root and branch – top to bottom transformation of the club. Only fickle football fans would not appreciate just what he’s achieved. He will leave a legacy.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #15

    Arsenal have not been relegated twice in the space of 10 years, and they have won things, too.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #16

    Ian

    What part of the Arsenal model was the entirely avoidable relegation?

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #17

    @15. !!!!!

    It’s the implementation that has failed not the “model”

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #18

    The implementation has failed for 10 years?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #19

    Ian,
    Ours was nothing like the Arsenal model. They had a footballing style with ayers bought to fit their system while trying to compete with the best. Ours was the compete polar opposite to the Arsenal model.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #20

    Ian

    You mean that there was nothing wrong the plan but that it failed disastrously?

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #21

    So let’s recap.

    For 10 years a masterplan is in place that only requires an eventual relegation before we are in “exactly the right place to start.”

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #22

    Band B – It wasn’t implemented at NUFC . I believe we’ve been relegated 4 times in your lifetime. Forgive me but Ashley has not appreciated the need to hire the right people and give them their head. Hopefully this time- there’s nowt wrong with the model.

    Maybe this time Benitez will be given time and financial backing but within the confines of self sufficiency.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #23

    But Ian,

    But I presume the plan included the near fatal decision to hire Carver and the fatal decision to hire MCClaren to implement it?
    Or did they hire themselves?

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #24

    How about another plan?
    We got relegated through sheer blind arrogance and the plan is only visible as far as a commitment to get promoted with a vastly streamlined squad.

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  • lesh

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #25

    Surely the Arsenal model’s based on aiming to win trophies whilst being reasonably prudent when investing in players whereas Ashley’s interpretation of it was to being frugal and make profits. Both clubs had the same aims (profit) but the means of doing so, completely different.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #26

    Ian,
    You’ve spent the morning g arguing that Ashley wanted us ran like Arsenal but never managed to implement it correctly because he never hired the right people. The fact is that he wanted us to be run on the Ashley model and the right people would have told him it will be a complete disaster which will result in relegation. Hence the need to hire people who will a) to what he tells them to.
    b) tell him what he wants to hear while rearranging the deck chairs. Not an ice berg in sight Mike, nope not here Mike, it’s all plain sailing.

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  • Jib

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #27

    Unfortunately the fit and proper test for football club owners has no section to ascertain whether the tested person actually knows anything about footy.
    We all think we could do a great job owning a club (that’s how blogs like this exist) why should self-made wealthy men with which the game is littered , be any different?
    Jail and BandB bang on about Ashley when actually the game is full of guys like him.
    They twist words from the club to suit their own perceptions of club policies and are usually miles off the mark.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #28

    Meanwhile, over at Mr Ashley’s other business, CEO Dave Forsey is soldiering on after being roundly landed with all the blame for failed implementation of the plan in a company report yesterday.
    As is SD chairman Keith Hellawell, who’s resignation has been turned down despite widespread criticism from shareholders that he is a puppet without power.
    Stocks fell by 10 per on the opening of trading.

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  • firebug666

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #29

    Jib

    I have to say mate I totally disagree with you. Words have not been twisted at all, facts simply stand out and until now this club has been a failure. Managers with DOF’s choosing who will sign, Managers becoming head coaches with no say on transfers, Idiots leading other idiots, fail fail fail!

    That’s just how it was, the clubs research showed we should not try to win cups as that leads to relegation. but with every failed season we were always heading in that direction anyway.

    Of cause it may all be rosy in you little world, but the rest of us have to live with the pain our club forced on us in the real world.

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  • Jib

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #30

    And as if by request BandB demonstrates her real motive for coming on a Newcastle football blog and berating the owner.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #31

    Wow – here’s me thinking that the “fuel” driving blogs was about matters of opinion about players, mangers, tactics etc that different individuals hold.
    Now we have Jib Jibberish saying the reason is that we all think we could run a football club. I personally have never had that thought and suspect others haven’t either.
    Some folk are way off on a tangent about the real world – it is quite frightening really.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #32

    Ian

    Jib

    Well I’m not a Sunderland supporting troll who, of course, loves Ashley, as they all do.
    One who also can’t stand Shearer and thinks Keegan was the worst thing that could have happened as it gave Geordies ideas above there station.
    I would say you motives are somewhat clearer than mine.

    You forgot your cock-up over Mag92 led to me discovering some mutual acquaintances of the Mackem persusion.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #33

    Sorry Ian,

    Your name is in there by mistake.

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  • Jib

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #34

    firebug

    Words have been twisted on this thread

    “Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM
    You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. ”

    The cups Jail not anything else.

    The cups policy is exactly what Arsenal have done in the past – the fact that their kids were good enough to win cupties is their good fortune.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #35

    I was not really singing from the roof tops about our signings. No real household names no superstars. But after Benitez has explained it is a matter of horses for courses for this season with the sole objective of promotion – then I’m slightly more at ease with his plan.

    Not really convinced that the majority of signings could step into a PL side -next season.
    Going to be interesting though – first part of the plan – getting these guys playing as champions elect – can Rafa do it.

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  • firebug666

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #36

    Jib

    “Jail for Ashley // Sep 7, 2016 at 9:10 AM
    You cannot run a football club with the aim of avoiding winning anything. ”

    I don’t see what you want to apparently make up from the above post mate. What did we try to win?

    When did our team enter the pitch with any passion or drive? We never looked like we wanted to win anything.

    Jail and I suspect many others myself included feel that the model was Premiership Survival nothing else, Try to finish in the top 10 so that players and staff could claim their bonus.

    It was all about that, Bonuses! It was not about giving the fans hope, it was not about playing for the fans or the glory of challenging in the league or cups, it was all about getting that bonus, and most know that.

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  • Jib

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #37

    mag92 // Nov 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Gaol is of the mackem persuasion!

    5 Markaccus // Nov 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Mag92

    Comments like that bring the blog down. Thats just stupid, mate. Calling toon fans makems is purile

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #38

    Tuff

    I think ritchie and diame would be good players in the prem for us, but as you say, the majority have plenty to do before they convince anyone that they are PL quality.
    The advantage is that most of the signings theoretically have their best years ahead of them, and hopefully rafa and co will turn them into excellent players.

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  • BandB

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #39

    That’s queer Jib.

    Is that you admitting that you were Mag92.
    The same Mag92 who said he was postman to a prominent Mackem family, and vanished after I pointed that was what Jeff From Benwell had also claimed to be………
    I thought you had nothing to do with Jeff From Benwell.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Sep 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #40

    Jib

    Why have you reposted a comment by me (under my old name markaccus) from 2 years ago?

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