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The Real Reason Newcastle Pulled Out Of Alan Judge Deal

4:49 pm, Thursday, September 8th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 71 Comments

There’s a report on the Get West London web-site today that identifies the reason Newcastle pulled out of a deal to sign 27 year-old midfielder Alan Judge of Brentford.

The local press at the time in Newcastle were reporting that Alan was on his way to Newcastle to take a medical and sign and that he wouldn’t be fit to play until November.

The deal had apparently been completely agreed including the wages Alan would be getting.

alan judge brentford

Alan Judge – almost joined Newcastle

But that deal never happened

The Get West London web-site are today reporting the reason was because “he was not as far ahead in his recovery as originally thought.”

That’s what Brentford manager Dean Smith has told them about the potential deal falling though – although Dean doesn’t mention which clubs were actually interested int he play-maker.

This is what Dean Smith said:

“The clubs that were interested in him thought he was further ahead in his fitness that he was.” 

“I don’t think anyone would begrudge Judgey a move to a Premier League or a massive Championship club. I’m sure he’ll come back better than before.”

“He probably wasn’t as far ahead as he thought he might be but he’s still progressing. I’m not sure of any timescales – I think it’s too early to say.”

Wonder who the massive Championship club could be?

Judge has only juts had an operation to remove the pins in his right leg and he was at the time supposed to be about three months away from playing.

The local media in Newcastle have been suggesting the club may go back in for Alan in January when he has fully recovered from the broken leg.

We hope Newcastle do just that because Alan looks like a very good player.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

71 responses so far ↓

  • 1 hibbit // Sep 8, 2016 at 4:57 PM

    After his release from Manchester City Thorne had short spells with Salford City[2][3] and Macclesfield Town,[4] before joining Nottingham Forest’s Under-21 side.[5] He made his professional debut for Forest on 23 August 2016, starting in a 2-1 win over Millwall in the EFL Cup

  • 2 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:02 PM

    I think the TOON will have another look at him and go back in either January break or the summer

  • 3 hibbit // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:06 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie…… post 1
    that was for you he’s 20 and Ben recons he’s quality just a throw away from Man City who struggled to find a club but forest are expecting big things from him now he’s settled

  • 4 Hail Wor Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:11 PM

    Not needed, glad we didn’t pursue.

  • 5 Chancel be a fine thing // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:15 PM

    I cut and pasted that from the fella you were asking about’s facebook account; he left details in a post. It appears he is Albanian. I, like another poster, thought he sounded young, judging from his goofy posting, and curiosity got the better of me.

  • 6 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:28 PM

    I did geddit Belfast. I did. Hows the day job? 🙂

  • 7 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:29 PM

    Who’s Chancel again? That’s Rob too isn’t it?

  • 8 clinath@ed // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:33 PM

    Jib….old news then. Thanks for that.

  • 9 Lindisfarne // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:36 PM

    Good riddance to Pardew, the only thing I can say in his favour is that he was better than Wally McBrolly.

  • 10 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    Would be happy to see him through the door come Jan if he is fit enough

  • 11 Chancel be a fine thing // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:48 PM

    ????? I’m a different chancel from tfl, not sure what you’re saying?

  • 12 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    Your absolutely right.. Donald And Goofy have two questions though before signing off:
    Wasn’t he a double award winner ? Didn’t we finish 5th in the PL under him ?
    Make that a third question- Wasn’t he better than John Carver ? Oh 4th and. JF Kinnear.

    So you probably could say quite a few things in his favour – like he was better than those aforementioned.
    Thanks. Donald and Goofy both geddit Reddit .

  • 13 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Judge isnt needed? Are u questioning Rafa there?

  • 14 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 5:54 PM

    Tsunki- Don’t worry Tsunki can’t find the time to nail you – Don’t Fluster Buster . He’s working around the clock elsewhere!

  • 15 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    Ian Toon,
    How often do you repair the leather patches on the elbows of your tweed blazer.

  • 16 Lindisfarne // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM

    I would like to see us settle on a 4-1-4-1 formation, as it would seem the most appropriate set up for the Championship. We have Hayden who has the potential and Tiote who has the experience, but I am not sure either will make that position there own in the PL. At the moment we seem to have an excess of midfielders and I would hope any further purchases would be an up grade on existing, or an excellent and experienced DM that will see us through a number of seasons.

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    Jon Jo Shelvey has just told Total Sport he enjoys the Championship because there’s more guns and drugs n that. Oh sorry that was Newcastle, he gets more space and time on the ball!

  • 18 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    @15- Please explain. You might be onto something…….

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    I would like to see him start with Mitro and Gayle up top as we’re all dying to see it, well I am anyway.

  • 20 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    My mistake I thought you said leather settee.

  • 21 Lindisfarne // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:18 PM


    I was looking forward to seeing Mitro, Gayle and a return to the good old days of 442. But I am still not convinced we have the right wingers or midfielders. Also, I am now more intrigued to see Murphy and Gayle, as they both have the experience, creativity and goal getting records to really blast us back to the big time.

  • 22 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:22 PM

    Sorry Chancel ha ha did that before didn’t I? It’s becoming one of those hardwired misconceptions …doh!

  • 23 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    Hi Ian,

    I was going to write a full post regarding you mentioning me and my “embarrassment” earlier. Instead, I’ll keep it short and sweet.

    Please don’t mention me anymore, I do try to afford you the same courtesy.

    Thanks in advance.

  • 24 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM

    Ian why not mix it up with one of your other identities? Throw a bit of spice in.

  • 25 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    It was that whole “Take a Chancel” thing wasn’t it? Lot to answer for has Rob. 😐

  • 26 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM

    Simon 376,
    A few posts back…. Was at work but I noticed a comment if yours that a relative, friend of Pardew was told by the man that he ‘was ordered’ to be knocked out.

    Apologies but that is buxxxxt you were sold I think.

    On the other hand, if this far fetched story is true, my apologies for other reasons.

    I’m no Pardew fan but that slander is way stretched.

  • 27 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    Knocked out of cups

  • 28 Belfast // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:33 PM

    The bad chancel completely ruined it for all the other Chancels 🙂

  • 29 Belfast // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    That was Ibiza pulling the plug on you Ian.

  • 30 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:36 PM

    I’m not sure if the guy does have a relative who knew Pardew but given our stance on the cups and Pardews success in taking Palace to a final with his shirty counter attacking football then I find the story entirely believable.

  • 31 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Belfast if that isn’t you you must remove that picture man. Spooky sxxt

  • 32 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:37 PM

    Cyprus….The directive was to prioritise the PL. Cups or qualification for Europe were viewed as nothing more than an unwelcome distraction.

    Whether he was told to directly throw games or not is another matter. It’s clear we weren’t set up to do well in them, nor did the club have any intention of trying.

    Still, it was nice to always hear about what a special cup the FA Cup was to Pardew, just to see us get knocked out.

    If it wasn’t for Pardew and his abilities, you may think it far fetched that we didn’t manage to get a little further in the cups….it’s almost as if there were being thrown. I think I just went full circle on this one.

  • 33 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    I don’t. These managers knew what a cup run and win meant. Instant statue. They would never throw these games, I think. Beating city, by mistake!?

    Urban myth all the way. They wanted it, were too weak as a team to get it.

  • 34 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    Ibizatoon – it wasn’t about me. I heard that some weeks ago you were on the blog with a poster unfamiliar to me but known to you and you don’t initially recognise him. He was seen to be answering his own posts and you thought it was Carl( small c) and thought the blog was being corrupted leaving post haste.
    If you could identify said time and post it would be helpful.

  • 35 Legolas // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:43 PM

    Looking forward to a weekend of league football. I hate the international breaks. Hopefully 3 points against Derby. Hope I am not disappointed. Ha ha. I didn’t realise we lost the last 2 games against them. ?

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Ian Toon,
    PPB who we now know is another devisive multiple turd tried to stitch you up, it was carl actually but potato potato. Different situation with Pushy altogether, he’d been posting for ages and most suspected you were using multiple accounts before you slipped up. Everyone knows Ian.

  • 37 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    Belfast- Ibiza was a pawn- Henry Kissinger in the game with Kevvy and Kieron.

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:45 PM

    The club told us in their only truthful statement in eight years. Why don’t you believe them?

  • 39 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Ian often ends up the bell of the ball on here doesn’t he?

  • 40 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Nar mate the club hated the idea of cups and Europe and they hired managers weak enough to go along with it

  • 41 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    You’ll need to hit me again with that 🙂

    Anyway, I’d be shocked if Pardew or anyone told a casual acquaintance, if that, that kind of sxxt. Unless we now claim he’s just stupid.

    Oftentimes, when people mention they ‘met’ so and so, they mean as fans, waving a cap to be signed or something. Which isn’t all that amazing.

    Kudos if I’m wrong.

  • 42 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    Tsunki- I was suspicious of you helping stitch me up a while ago but one day it dawned on me that you actually thought me guilty. Your faith in some of your mates!!!

  • 43 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM

    Ian…You mentioned me earlier. All I’m asking is that you don’t.

    I have no desire to be involved in this never ending game. Whatever that game may be.

  • 44 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    I believe exactly what they said, as Ibiza mentioned. The key word is ‘prioritise’ and frankly I’m ok with that. I’d rather be top 6 than win a cup, but that’s me and I accept alternative views.

  • 45 wynsleap // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Judge for us in January?
    Think the jury’s out on that one.

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    Ian Toon,
    You blatantly set up sack Llambias to try and make it look like me.

  • 47 Average_Contents // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:53 PM


    Pinnochio was too busy spinning stories of ‘we can’t compete’ and towing the party line in order to keep his paymaster happy.
    Far too busy to be concentrating on winning a cup.

    You really think he gave a crap about getting a statue or winning over the fans when he had an EIGHT year deal as a reward for going along with the ridiculous club policies and keeping shtum?

    He was like a pig in sh1t by that point and valued himself above all else.

    I’ve heard rumours that his office was ceiling to floor mirrors so he could bash one off whenever the need arose which was quite often.

    Egotistical snake.

  • 48 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Let’s hire weak coaches who’ll keep us in the lower tiers of the PL. Great plan! You know that can’t be true.

    Good conspiracy theory given our sxxt record 😉

  • 49 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    Cyprus…Not that important 🙂

    I wouldn’t be shocked if he had said it, since leaving. Alan wont want people thinking any Newcastle failures were his own.

    Still, “i know so and so” stories are always to be taken with a pinch of salt, never mind ones online.

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    Well you’ve just gone against the grain there because where’s the glory in finishing sixth unless it means finishing fourth etc the years after. Why would you not want to win a cup.

  • 51 hibbit // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:56 PM


    Pardue was well aware the clubs master plan and complisant in its implementation happy to do the dirty work for his 30 pieces of silver

  • 52 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Jail- Kindly furnish me with full details as I would wish to pass onto Ed. I f you fail to do so I propose to Lert him to the various possibilities.
    He was highly suspicious last summer with the Sack Llamb heralding your partners return from holiday.
    I am starting work but feel free to post.

  • 53 Average_Contents // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Obviously that last bit wasn’t true but it wouldn’t surprise me one little bit.

    League 1 chancer.

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    Do you honestly think sacked lower league managers were hired to take us to the next level or to toe the line. Where is the conspiracy in that.

  • 55 Ian Toon // Sep 8, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    What does PPB Stand for?

  • 56 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    All just theories of course, but one that i tend to sit with more these days is that it wasn’t a question of setting out to hire a bad manager, just one that was willing to peddle their crap and not rock the boat.

    Unfortunately, the two go hand in hand.

    People who want to win tend to ask for things to achieve that. Unreasonable so and so’s.

    It was the lack of prioritising football / success that has led us down this path. Advertisement was the main factor, football came second.

  • 57 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    To answer your question, well yes.

    Put yourself in his place, he’s just a dude, an ex footballer, with enough money. A statue, loved by some crazy fans, most people would fall for that.

    So, yes.

  • 58 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    Weak in that they won’t go against club plans in cups and play a team capable of doing anything not that they hired bad coaches mate

  • 59 hibbit // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM

    what an obnoxious twat that ian toon is
    just ignore him

  • 60 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    I was one of the guy’s harshest critiques, if you recall. But the Judas thing? Throwing games? No, I don’t think he’s that bad. On the contrary. He did his best, which wasn’t good enough.

  • 61 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Maybe you’re right of course. I’d be surprised but it’s possible

  • 62 Legolas // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    I don’t post on here very often and this is just my opinion but seriously guys do you not have enough shit going on in life to be arguing on a football blog with each other. Does it really matter who said what or he said that. Seriously it’s boring. If someone doesn’t like another poster just ignore them. Enjoy reading the football craic, so let’s get back to it eh ?

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:06 PM

    Exactly, where is the conspiracy in it all. Of course they didn’t hire the worst managers they could find, they hired the best ones available who would be compliant with their ridiculous plan.

  • 64 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM

    An uncle of a friend who knows the goalkeeping coach of a PL team, who talked to a gambling buddy of Pardew, told me it ain’t so.

  • 65 cyprus // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    Spot on.

  • 66 WWSBRD // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:09 PM

    Not sure why it’s surprise u mate Pardew never played strong teams in cups or Europe (until it was the only thing fans were happy about), the club didn’t buy before entering Europe and we never heard the end of how much of a terrible thing it was for us that we qualified for it

  • 67 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    Is this debate actually about what we consider to be throwing games?

    I don’t think anyone is saying the club cared or tried for them, but Pardew purposefully throwing them is another matter.

    Still, who cares anymore, really? Isn’t he Palaces problem? I mean, Palaces, ermm…I can’t think of the word…problem it is!

    For now, I am enjoying this forward thinking NUFC with Rafa involved. Am I convinced the clubs core ethos have changed? Not yet, but there is hope.

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 PM

    He blatantly threw the game against Cardiff as did Carver the following year away to a shit Leicester team. How can you possibly deny it, it’s like arguing with some religious freak that won’t admit the existence of dinosaurs, the bones are from where God gathered material to build earth from all over the universe.

  • 69 Chancel be a fine thing // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    Your mention earlier, of it being able to be faked; the whole multiple poster thing, has got me intrigued. How would someone go about this? I could guess at a couple of ways: an account being hacked by someone else or an account created that was used to suggest you were talking to yourself. I am assuming you are saying that the pushy account was someone else who was saying those things to make it look like you were a multiple poster making a mistake in talking to themselves. Please correct me If I am am wrong.

  • 70 Legolas // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    By the way, someone has to be a little bit cuckoo to have a multiple account so they can agree with themselves or to discredit another poster. I do t know how someone would have the time or inclination to do that. Just saying.

  • 71 Ibizatoon // Sep 8, 2016 at 7:30 PM

    Legolas…I agree. The thing is, it HAS been done on here. For whatever the reason.

    I’m not mentioning names by the way. No one needs to get riled.

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