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WOW – Former Players Weigh In On Newcastle Performance

8:50 am, Wednesday, September 14th, 2016 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 131 Comments

Some of our former players – plus Rob Elliot – took to Twitter following last night’s magnificent 6-0 win at Loftus Road – our biggest league win away from home since we hammered Walsall back in 1962.


Grant Hanley hugs Ciaran Clark after scoring

And Rob Elliot recovering from his ACL injury had this to say.

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131 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 14, 2016 at 8:55 AM

    Love the fact we got another one from a corner.

    It also shows how utterly clueless a punt to Williamson at the back was, and to do it over and over was shocking.

    Great to see defenders get goals and Mitro to get off the mark in his first league start. Hopefully a lot more from him when his fitness and match practice develops.

  • 2 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 8:58 AM


    If you are refering to Jails reply to spoofs post, then it was clearly NOT comparing shelvey to williamson, it was simply stating that, for 5 years, we had no one who was the same type of defender that williamson was (tall, no nonsense lump of limited technique, who did the best he could). Now we have one out and out deep lying playmaker, and no one else in the squad is exactly the same as that. It is the same situation, but this time with a midfeilder rather than a defender. I understood it clearly enough. Haway, man. Don’t imediately try to re start the pointless bickering that goes on here. It’s childish

  • 3 hibbit // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    a lots being made of the goals and rightly so but to me the clean sheets are every bit as important
    it’s years since we had a defence playing as a unit long may it last

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:00 AM

    thanks for the back handed compliment Ian

  • 5 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:04 AM


    The rotation does seem to be working at the minute but I still have some long term doubts about it, yes the players are accepting it now but it’s still early days, look at Clark, he’s only played three matches, we’ve won all three conceded just the one goal, he has scored a goal and also got an assist, he possibly feels that he has done enough to justify a run in the side, but he may not get it, and when Colback got recalled he played well but was left out again, some players will lose out and it could cause problems down the line if they aren’t being rotated fairly, if players are playing well all the rotational keep everyone fresh explanations from Rafa will fall on deaf ears in time if some aren’t getting a fair crack of the whip, I not saying that Rafa should abandon it, but I can see problems arising due to it.

  • 6 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:06 AM

    Mark- It was an irrelevant comment whereas he could have seen merit in what had been said. It’s taking a negative rather than positive view- in comparing chalk with cheese.

  • 7 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:07 AM

    Credit where due- LOL.

  • 8 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:08 AM


    I think BandB and a couple of others have made the point that, if we are not worried about losing a goal, we attack with so much more confidence (im paraphrasing, but i think that was the gist). Part of that is the fact we are less likely to be punished for mistakes, but, like you say, our defence is becoming a solid unit, so much of this confidence comes from that.

  • 9 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM


    He wasnt comparing the players, he was comparing the situation. You know that he was. Stop being petty. Jail has been nothing but positive about rafa and nufc since the season started, and the overtone of that actual post was positive. I don’t see why you had to have a dig. There is too much trouble making goes on here. Just stop it. No need.

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM

    Ian Toon,
    I wasn’t comparing Williamson to Shelvey in any way shape or form. Spoof was writing a post worrying about losing Shelvey to whatever reason. I was just pointing out that we put up with Willo as our pretty much our main CB for four years, should we really be worrying about only having one Shelvey type player.

  • 11 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM


    In fairness Jail was a bit dismissive at my point which I feel is valid, and to be honest after last’s night’s showing I would expect more people to start to look at possible problems which may occur and like myself start to wonder how that problem could be solved, the chances are Rafa has also looked at this and no doubt he will have a solution to it, now people will then say that he is prepared, yet I am being looked upon as being negative, I really don’t get that like.

  • 12 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    If the players are going to press and work as hard at winning the ball back as this from now on the defence will not be a worry as teams will struggle to get near our back 4!!

    Good to see Perez start to do well now that we have width on either side and Mitrovic to hold it up he now has space in between the lines to strut his stuff!Sure I read somewhere that he is also working in the gym to get stronger ?

  • 13 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Laurent- Makes a good point on Benitez organisation and the ability to change the line up without losing efficiency and overall teamwork. It often happens in league cup games and teams often lose cohesion. A hell of a lot of drilling and repetition has gone into results like last night.
    How many remember the pre season concern expressed by many over zonal marking. The marking from set pieces has been first class.
    I am not going to highlight at a time of clean sheets

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    I wasn’t been dismissive at all, just wondering why you’re worrying about problems that don’t exist yet.

  • 15 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM


    Yes i understand that, and jails post could certainly be read as a bit dismissive, but it was certainly not how Ian has described it. I am sure you and Jail could have a proper football chat about it, without Ian trying to stir things up into a row.

    Incidently, i don’t know if you saw it, but I also replied to you…. if not, i said that Diame could drop back into shelveys role. He is good enough to do that job adiquately imo. We have a few players who could take up the no.10 spot in that instance.

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    Nobody has come forward to claim their Rafa bingo points yet 😀

  • 17 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:22 AM


    Your post certainly wasn’t negative. It raised a genuine concern.

  • 18 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    And meant to add that someone had mentioned Diane being able to fill the role, evidently it was Markacus.

  • 19 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    I think if Shelvey ended up having to miss games a solution would be to have Atsu and Richie on either wing with Yedlin and Lazaar as the full backs and just have good old fashioned wing play !

  • 20 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    If we lose Shelvey Rafa will simply change up the plan mate. Diame can carry the ball forward rather than Shelvey spraying it for example, Hayden will also learn how to be more than a DM under Rafa same with Colback (who used to do well in a more box to box role anyway) hes got options and no doubt he will use them

  • 21 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM


    In all honesty yes we should be concerned, it’s not a severe worry but it is something to look at and ask, what would we do, I expressed it as a concern for two reasons, one he is arguably one f our best players and you never want to lose them and two, I don’t see a like for like replacement, how have I failed to make a valid point, I really don’t know what the Williamson point was as I cannot see the similarities of Williamson’s effect on the team, compared to the Shelvey effect on the team and what was/is available to them as cover.

  • 22 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM


    I wonder why. Come the end of the season, you will have a spreadsheet full of zeros.

  • 23 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:23 AM

    Jail- Clearly we should because it would involve a change in tactics.
    Fortunately Benitez has the eye for detail you lack.
    If you had expressed yourself badly why not just admit it rather than question what was a good and forward thinking post.
    Just my opinion.

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    To Barcelona worry about having only one Messi, not comparing Shelvey and Messi mind. Any team misses it’s better players when they don’t play.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    Ian Toon,
    I ought to be ashamed that I don’t have the same tactical awareness of a UEFA elite manager.

  • 26 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:29 AM

    Yeah Ian just owned u there! Ur not as good of a manager as Rafa! Hang ur head sir!

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:31 AM

    Rafas not as good as fixings lights as me harumphhh.

  • 28 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:31 AM


    That was actually the point that I made, due to not having a direct replacement for him we would indeed probably have to change the system which is why I was raising the point, because changing a system which is working as well as it currently is isn’t something that I would want to happen, which is where the slight concern is.

    Lets face it the entire league know how well we are doing and if we were forced to change the system then that could only ever be a boost for our opponents, I really don’t see why there is such a fuss, to me it’s a valid point, but we’re all different, I’m sure Rafa has given it some thought, best to be prepared.

  • 29 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    Ah u have him there, I bet u could take him in a pint downing contest as well

  • 30 martoon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:33 AM

    Without sounding negative the Wolves game on Saturday is a bit of a banana skin. After last night’s results we will be expected to win easily but ……………………

  • 31 emperor // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Spoof – Rafa has managed big big players at madrid napoli valencia and liverpool, I think the players know hes not here to be their friend but purely to do the best for nufc

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    There wasn’t a fuss until the devisive turd Ian Toon decided to make one of it.

  • 33 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:35 AM

    Why would a system change be so bad? Am not making a fuss though just trying to answer ur concern because I dont really understand it rbh Rafa wont have our squad only able to play in 1 way especially if its built around Shelvey who isnt exactly reliable for consistent performances or temperament

  • 34 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Pint downing contest, I’ll enter that, as long as Jail pays lol.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Thing is though you have 20 odd players all thinking they’re in with a chance of playing on Saturday busting a gut to play. I don’t think standards will drop and Rafa has even talked about such banana skins.

  • 36 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:39 AM


    I dont think anyone is making a fuss about your point. Some of us have tried to offer possible solutions to it. The only fuss has come from a deliberate mis-understanding of another post.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    Great to hear him talk about the fact that every player has a chance of making the team, what must the atmosphere been like in the dressing room when the eleven best players had colour codes. The purples looking down their noses at the shitty browns knowing they were playing regardless of what they played like.

  • 38 Ron Knee // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    Just been looking at some pics of our away supporters at the QPR match. A lot of W*nga shirts on display. Ugh!

  • 39 jimmysmith // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    If we lost Shelvey he’d be missed, but not at all disastrously. Pick any two out of Hayden, Colback, Anita, Diame and Tiote if he stays, and play them behind Perez or Diame, in this league, surrounded by the players we have and we’ll more than match any opposition.

  • 40 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM

    WW – Ha ha for once Yer right!

    Jail- what differentiates respective managerial quality is anticipating a problem before it arises. It’s John Carver: Rafa Benitez.
    On you I have recommended various reading material. Like the club’s historian The Keegan Years. Your point yesterday I didn’t live through the Second World War but I know all about it. Likewise with NUFC history stop being so patronising and dismissive.

    Mark- That’s the second time you have criticised my input and then totally agreed with another poster on precisely my point.
    3 strikes and your out Buster!

  • 41 martoon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Jail @35 – Fair point – I think it is years of disappointment as a NUFC supporter make you a bit wary.

  • 42 mad-serb // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM


    Nobody won it from the teams I saw and can recall. Clark is the one that did 99% of the teams in. As there is no winner, any chance having all the goal scorers in my team qualify me for the round win on a bonus point basis 🙂

  • 43 expatmag // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM


    On yhe ingo points subject, I think I got 9 out if 11 right. The only ines I missed out on were Clark for Mbemba and Gouffran for Atsu

  • 44 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    Ahem for once? I direct u towards the Steven Taylor injury sweepstakes on last season thank u very much

  • 45 JDdubai // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    To be honest, Shelvey is a PL player on 60k a week – we arent going to find a similar player this season.

    Better we wait til the summer and find a suitable alternative when we are back in the PL and able to attract and afford the right kind. We can risk it for this 1 season surely with the strength we have in depth and level of opposition.

  • 46 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Jimmy- Diame could well be the best alternative. Is he struggling with overall fitness? I wonder whether he’s being nursed – we don’t get the leaks from the training ground that used to be common place.

  • 47 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:48 AM


    I didn’t say it would be bad, it could end up being better, but what I do know is that what we have no is working very well indeed, so at present I wouldn’t want it to change, better the devil you know than the devil you don’t, if results and performances drop and Shelvey isn’t pulling his weight then drop him and change the system, I’m not saying he is a world beater, but certainly he is one who is making us tick, all clubs have these players and at times they do have to win without them, we will have to ourselves, just like Man City have without Aguero ( I’m not comparing the two ), but all I am saying is that City would feel more confident if they had Aguero rather than not have him, that’s how I feel about Shelvey, the difference is City have others who can replace Aguero without disrupting the rhythm to much and I’m not sure that we have that when it comes to Shelvey, it’s not a do or die situation but it is a bit of a concern, another concern is the number ten role, Diame looks a decent player but without him do we have a direct replacement to do a like for like job, again I would say no, but that’s life, we just have to get on with it.

  • 48 nut meg // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    It’s looking like we now have the foundations in place,what we so badly wanted and what was so obviously needed. If we get the right results this month the rest of the fancied teams could be thinking there’s only one automatic promotion spot left to play for.

  • 49 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    Jail @32- It says more about you than me sunshine. Not a good example to set to the younger poster that you’re so dismissive of. You only debate when the other party is submissive- many just can’t be bothered.

  • 50 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    I do get what ur saying but then u answer ur own concern haha

    Personally am not worried about tactics and squad balance anymore under Rafa. For the no 10 role Perez did pretty well there last night and Rafa has said thats his position in the team, Id like to see Perez keep Diame out of the team in that role by the end of the season

  • 51 lesh // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:54 AM


    I suspect that the sound of horses that our Sunderland friends are hearing are more likely the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse!

  • 52 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    I debate with Jail every so often and am not sure many would describe me as submissive…atleast during the week

  • 53 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:55 AM


  • 54 Mister Tuff // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:55 AM

    Had us down for a win last night – but nothing of that magnitude. Did not expect such a comprehensive win. Confidence at the club must be massive.
    The players can only get better as they play more with one another.
    Looking very good so far.

    Good to see the team progressing.
    Not good to see Ian Toon continuing his blog mischief – snidey character to be sure.

  • 55 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Spoof, in the long term, rotation should be the one that does possess the benefits. Players must also realise that they are in a squad, and with Rafa’s constant tinkering, they will get their chances regularly. Even by being out of the team for a particular game the system makes them ‘important’ as the lines of ‘best’ eleven are significantly blurred.

    It could be argued that playing a ‘best’ eleven each week would significantly devalue the majority of players who don’t play as they are deemed not as good. Plus, you have the added significance of being drained, higher chance of injury due to muscle fatigue, and complacency if they’re always in.

    Again, love Rafa’s tinkering. There are slight downsides, but rotating, say, two or three players every other game and giving long sub run outs maximises the squad over the long term, both in cohesion and mentality.

    When the fresh players play, they know they can reach their maximum output in a game and not ‘save’ some energy for the next few games coming up.

  • 56 Slank // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:58 AM

    Before the match I posted on here words to the effect that psychologically the lads will be developing the mindset that they can win every game. And some, if not all, of the QPR players will be thinking that Newcastle have far too much quality and the only outcome will be a win for them. And so it turned out.

    The good and the bad news is:

    All our opponents will be thinking like QPR after last night. And a defeat for them will not surprise them.

    The lads will thinking we can win every game and the confidence in the team will be brimming over with success breeding success.

    The lads can become complacent and take their eye off the ball and feet off the ground. This is where Rafa earns his money. Sensible rotation and a ‘we can do better’ mentality drummed into the players should avoid falling into the ‘walk on water’ trap.

  • 57 jimmysmith // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    We are lucky to have players like Diame and Gayle, but I don’t actually think they are part of our best 11. A spine of Sels, Mbemba, Lascelles, Shelvey alongside one of Hayden, Colback or Tiote, take your pick, with Perez behind Mitrovic has just about everything you could ask for. Maybe Diame sneaks in alongside Shelvey, but probably not.

  • 58 AmericanMagpie // Sep 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM

    Amazing what 6 wins in a row can do to a club. More should try it.

  • 59 Spoof // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:00 AM


    I haven’t answered my own question because I never asked one lol, all it was was a point, if Sels isn’t available it’s Darlow, if Dummett isn’t available it’s Lazaar, that’s easy, if its Shelvey then it’s not as easy, that’s basically the crux of the matter, anyway I’m just back from a nightshift so I’m off to bed, see ya’s later.

  • 60 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    WW- With all due respect you frequently adopt the politician ploy of answering a pointer not actually raised.
    Eg. Yesterday – The KK adulation point was that he KK encouraged the adulation of the fans – not why shouldn’t fans be showing adulation. He apparently used to practice in front of a mirror -as in the announcement on the steps of selling Cole and not replacing ( with Ferdinand) until later. He was a showman, nothing wrong with that but recognising it!

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    The commentators on Total Sport said of our last promotion campaign that a lot of games were won in the tunnel when the opposition seen the sheer confidence of the players. With every win that confidence is glowing. Teams aren’t going to be able to deal with it.

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM

    With performancesome like that it won’t be long before you can’t get a ticket for games, don’t think there’ll be many Dutch stag do’s after Christmas at SJP.

  • 63 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Rather than a player being ‘dropped’ (breeding failure, negative perception from their role), the players are valued within the squad, not devalued outside of the team.

    Efficient squad management is a great emphasis on unity amongst the players, depending on the players you have.

  • 64 clinath@ed // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    we may have just gone from “Newcastle would be a big scalp to take..” to “Shit, we’ve got Newcastle, no chance there, might as well save ourselves for next week…”

  • 65 SPRINGY // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    morning all
    fantastic display from the lads last night,i take is there wins previous to last night were more down graft and organisation,last night it looked more about confidence and desire,the organisational side was still there but the confidence and desire shone thru a lot more then recent…great to see,but not taking away from the lads but qpr were woeful….but u can only play whats put in front of you….same again please lads and staff.

  • 66 SPRINGY // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM

    i must admit cant remember a time when we had so many clean sheets and +goal average……feels weird,but good!lol

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    It’s four years ago now but it still amazes me when I think of the stupidity of that eleven purples speech by Dirk Llambias. It is the complete polar opposite to what’s happening now.

  • 68 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:26 AM


    I do not agree with what you said about Jails post. And just what exactly are you going to do about it if you decide I have 3 strikes? I think you believe you are more important than you actually are!

  • 69 JamesToon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    I don’t think we should worry about Rafa’s game plan/tactics if the likes of Ritchie and Shelvey get injured, he will have plans. The main concern is players complacency, also annoyed me a bit when wolves said their players are coming in today for preparations for Saturday, and some of our fans were replying “preparing by practising how to pick the ball out of your net” that’s just cocky,

    Just enjoy the win lads, wolves will react on Saturday and they have some very good players.

    My team in the league game v wolves

    Anita Lascelles Clark Lazaar
    Hayden Shelvey
    Ritchie Gayle Perez

    Team v Wolves in the cup

    Yedlin Hanley Mbemba Gamez
    Diame Colback
    Atsu Perez Gouffran

  • 70 Slank // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM


    I think managers try their best to remove doubts in the minds of players about the superiority of the opposition but the players are no fools and can see with their own eyes from watching the opposition perform in previous games what they are likely to face.

    I first noticed this with the Liverpool teams of the 60s and 70s and then the ManU teams under Ferguson. Opposition teams seemed to sense that they were going to get beat before they had walked out onto the pitch. It was very much like that last night when Celtic faced Barcelona.

    I’m hoping that this winning mentality will take hold with the team.

  • 71 SPRINGY // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    anyone know the craic with mbemba?

  • 72 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Jail, that’s what happens when a successful manager is employed, not a dodgy casino boss like the financially sleazy Lambeezy.

    It really is a breath of fresh air. Long may it continue. I’m really looking forward to going to the game on Saturday.

  • 73 Slank // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:33 AM

    JamesToon @ 69

    I don’t see Rafa changing the back four against Wolves. The clean sheets speak for themselves. He may make a substitution mid way through the second half but my guess is that he will start with the same back four unit who have performed so well.

  • 74 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Nope…. had a good read back of my comments, and not once have I agreed with you. I have debated with spoof on how we could replace shelvey, and understood how he might have taken jails post as dismissive. Absolutely on no occasion have I agreed with you in daying Jail directly compared willo and shelvey as players. You are now trying to twist my posts to continue the pettiness.

    If strike 3 means you not interacting with me in any way, that would be just great. Put me down for a deliberate swing-and-a-miss right now.

  • 75 SPRINGY // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    we need another solid winning display against wolves,then the belief will sore a draw or defeat may put a little doubt in there minds that it was a false dawn….but we have looked fairly solid and organised,and last night… confident…eventually

  • 76 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Maark- Your being daft- just ignore me.

  • 77 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    Haha ah sorry mate I assumed u were asking what would happen if Shelvey was out, goodnight anyway bud

    I do what now?
    On yesterday the point about KK was that I dont believe he should have to shut his mouth about NUFC. Ur point that he encouraged fans to like him was a wayward point not related to that…I also simply asked why that was a bad thing not sure any manager tries to be disliked by the fans

  • 78 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    You’re for the forensic clowns. Interesting that Sack Llamb also spelt divisive as devisive.

  • 79 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    WW- Lets leave it.

  • 80 Jammydodger // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Not sure if repost but Stumbled upon this, rather enlightening

  • 81 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    I think u might have me as company in that ignored by Ian camp seems I am atleast on my first strike…probably second after I answered now

    Can u have the kettle boiled for when I get there? 2 and a cow please

  • 82 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM


    Ok. From now on I will. I don’t suppose you’d want someone like me continually pointing you out as the trouble maker you are. I think most people know it anyway.

  • 83 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    Mark- Done- you’re off my required reading list.
    I will not place you on the embittered nutter list unless you start whinging from the back benches.

  • 84 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:49 AM


    Aye no bother, mate. I’ll chuck some bacon on too.

  • 85 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:50 AM


    And he has to have the last word too. Bless.

  • 86 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    Why is this page sending me to the Play Store!?!?!

  • 87 Jib // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:54 AM


    anyone know the craic with mbemba?

    A bit of tightness in the calves after Derby.
    He did have his socks rolled down as he came off.

    Aerial Duels Won 2
    Effective Clearances 9
    Def Duels Won 3
    Ball Recoveries 1
    Touches 61
    Accurate Passes 35
    Mins Played 90


  • 88 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    Oky dokey, great debating with ya I’ll stick to my politician ways with others, feel free to leave me off the required reading list as well bud

    Never let it be said ur not a star haha

  • 89 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 10:59 AM

    Mark- There’s not a vacancy. We have a puerile practitioner who is against free speech so much that he’s removed his release clause. Apparently he’s in a recruitment mode but only those with an entrenched mindset.

  • 90 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM


    You have a really interesting way of ignoring people.

  • 91 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    WW- I don’t have a a lot of free time before starting work. Happy to discuss but not endlessly on matters of opinion. I accept the fact that as far as KK is concerned it’s based largely on what I’ve read and the thoughts of those who’s opinions I value.
    In terms of balance I have discussed with older fans.

  • 92 Ian Toon // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:05 AM

    I hadn’t finished but I have now.

  • 93 TyneMouth // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:06 AM

    Oh sex in the Bush! What a night, wonderful…

    Weather Report. Tuesday evening, monsoon in Manchester, heatwave at Loftus Road, (+6). “R’s” well smacked!…

  • 94 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:09 AM

    Ian Toon,
    You’ve just blatantly made that up about sack Llambias.

  • 95 Bowjaw // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    Can any tell me how Atsu did when he came on. He cut in well for the goal but any other views on his all round performance?

  • 96 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:11 AM

    For someone with not much time on ur hands u spend a lot of it sounding off at Jail for Ashley

    And thought u wanted to leave the KK thing? Do u want to discuss it or leave it?

  • 97 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:13 AM


    Listened on radio, so not a great pointer, but Atsu sounded quite lively and tenacious. Just what we need in a winger.

  • 98 hibbit // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    i asked early is there any way to watch the full game ???

  • 99 Legolas // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM


    Your comment about Newcastle continuing to play like this and there won’t be tickets.

    I have just looked for cup game on Tuesdsy as I was going to take my little one and there doesn’t seem to be any tickets left in family area. Unless I am doing something wrong. Ha ha.

  • 100 WWSBRD // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:16 AM

    Can only go off the radio but they were gushing over him

  • 101 Jib // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    For the first time I can remember not one of the usual replay sites has the full game – just slightly extended highlights.
    With so many Euro ties it’s only to be expected I guess.

  • 102 Bowjaw // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:26 AM

    Sounds good. I’m hoping Rafa can do what other coaches haven’t been able to and progress him into a great winger in the lower devision. what an asset and just what we need.

  • 103 lochinvar // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM

    Just getting concerned that we may be liable for damaging this Twitter thing that people keep mentioning.
    Apparently Newcastle fans are again responsible for it melting down and I wondered if it can be fixed ?
    I think some blame should be attributed to former players as they are always using it, whatever it is. Can they not pay for it to be fixed. That Mickey Quinn in particular !

    Rafa seems to be a masterclass at addressing the team spirit while separately working with each player on what they can contribute to that team strength. In between he’s fixed the Training Academy, changed the grass and for all we know has reinstated the Tea Lady and Jammy Dodgers for the Groundstaff tea breaks. Long may it continue.

    Let’s not forget that Mrs. Rafa and the Rafabairnings gave him the support to stay on at NUFC. Lets get to Christmas and see how we are placed but might be cool to send them all a Christmas card with our best wishes and some vouchers for Greggs to show our appreciation.

  • 104 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Repost from earlier in case its of interest to anyone who didnt see the game.

    Expat, re the Mitro comment from stjames above:

    Mitro was immense last night. For his first game back he looked fitter and faster than ive seen him. From the fist minute, him and Perez totally tormented the defence, hunting and chasing down every single time the defenders had the ball. Caulker didn’t know what day of the week it was after about an hour, Onuha had enough of the tireless harassment they were getting from our boys.
    Mitro held the ball up incredibly well, on a few occasions he had 3 players around him and still held them off and laid the ball off to kick start yet another wave of relentless attacking pressure from the best away performance i’ve ever seen us give.
    Mitro’s hunger and anticipation for Shelvey’s first goal was amazing. As soon as the ball went out near him for a throw-in he sprinted away down the line before getting his head up and picking out Shelvey with a killer pass under pressure.
    He made probably 6 or 7 chances at least, and never stopped running.
    Perez though, man, he was just unreal. He was actaully bullying much bigger defenders off the ball and after about 15 minutes they were panicking every time the ball came to them.

    But to be honest, the man of the match is impossible, Ritchie literally never stopped. In the 83rd minute, he was screaming at Perez to keep pressing as he sprinted yet again to close down another defender. We we 6 nil up…
    Shelvey was the best I’ve seen him, looked like absolute class last night but Hayden was one of those who quietly does the destroyer job, reading everything but this lad has some impressive range of passing too and for me was probably the best player on the pitch. Just.

    Defending from the front, as a team, solid, ruthless, selfless and tireless. I’m just grateful my 13yr old boy was with me last night to witness it too.
    It was actually quite emotional when the 4th went in. Lots of us over 40’s had flashbacks, it was like the Entertainers on steroids.

  • 105 Jib // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    I already have Rafa’s Xmas Box

  • 106 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    Alos, Atsu looks like a decent player. Very quick, tried to pick out players rather than just hitting it aimlessly into the box too. Tiny though, Anita was superb yet again. Yedlin is bloody rapid and very commited. Dummet played very very well, and I’m always the first to criticise him when he has a mare (like at Fulham)

    Ritchie’s song is brilliant, but I’m sure we’ve sang it about someone else recently?

  • 107 Jib // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:54 AM

    It was what my Granma always gave me.

  • 108 expatmag // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:55 AM


    Good to hear about Mitro last night but when he can consistently get the better of world class defenders at the top level, then I will compare him to Shearer.

    Until then, the jury is out on him.

  • 109 Chancel be a fine thing // Sep 14, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    there’s the full match on periscope, but not a great viewing angle ( low down behind the goal)

    Thought atsu looked good, ran at players and looked to find a pass/cross. Lost the ball a couple of times not sure how as he disappeared behind a stanchion; ball went in with him, came out with qpr. Also seemed to track back and harry players. Would say a good time to come on though as qpr had somewhat gone to pieces by this time; offered too much time and space to us.

  • 110 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:04 PM

    Expat, he’ll not be in Shearer’s class as his finishing isn’t great (Alan wouldve had 4 if he had the chances Mitro had last night) BUT the hold up play and physicality of his game has improved immensely as has his fitness. What I love about him is that he picks out his team mates in a better goal scoring position than him. Did it at least 3 or 4 times last night, and that’s without the goals he had a hand in. Cant underestimate how tough it is to play against these type of hard, physical players that can actually feed passes to their teammates

  • 111 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:07 PM


    Thanks for that. It did sound like mitro and perez were creating havok, but its good to have it confirmed by someone who saw it

  • 112 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    It will be interesting if we ever have players feigning injury, can’t see it happening now with Rafa as they will be scared of not playing with all the competition for places we now have.
    The previous injuries table that had Newcastle around the top of the injuries league year in year out was always a bone of contention with me.
    Perhaps now with the 4g training pitch in place that may have cured it, but I believe it’s the state of mind of the players and playing for crap managers that encouraged them to play on a knock and then sit on their arses.
    Believe we have got rid of them and now have a far better team spirit, and all wanting to impress Rafa.

    Past players always seemed to hold the cards whether they played or not, They don’t mess about our Rafa.

  • 113 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:16 PM

    Can anyone remember the West Ham away game in (I think) ’96 where we battered them and had something like 30 shots in the match? That’s what last night reminded me of.

  • 114 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM

    Oldgit, funny you mention it but a couple of lads we were talking to just before KO last night said that Gouffran would have been out for a couple of weeks with the knock he picked up at Derby.

  • 115 Markaccus // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM


    I dont recall that one. I do vaguely recall having 40 shots against Boro, once. I think it was a cup match.

  • 116 Wayayman // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    *if that happened last season I mean!

  • 117 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Love this site after a win, last night was brilliant a big thanks to all who contributed with their comments last night and earlier today. Great reading. I read every comment. Some were bloody funny and made me laugh out loud, my wife thought I was going nuts. Thanks again.

  • 118 cyprus // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM


    Thanks for that. Thrilled for those two you mention plus Shelvey whom I’ve criticised. Mostly thrilled for my team and everyone associated.

  • 119 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:33 PM

    @ Wayayman- gouffram was a perfect example, with people saying he had a knock, if a bad tackle is highlighted during a game supporters and the media jump on the “he will be injured for the next match” bandwagon, players in the past would pick up on this and under the previous managers it was accepted.

    Not our Rafa, why would gouffram want to miss a match he is on a roll

  • 120 hibbit // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:53 PM


    maybe one thing should be pointed out Rafa has improved and increased the medical team and recovery facilities which could be helping !!

  • 121 Mister Tuff // Sep 14, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Dwight Gayle Sky Bet EFL Goal of the Month.

  • 122 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    Did Arma play last night at all?

  • 123 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:08 PM

    He was brought off on seventy minutes just before their goals fest started.

  • 124 Chancel be a fine thing // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    read somewhere he was taken off on 70 min with the score 0-0. Didn’t say how he played.

  • 125 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    @ Hibbit good point, he now has the say, if a player is fit or not. Rather than have some medical staff who believes what the player I’m sure that’s what has gone on the past.
    I’m soooooo happy with Rafa

  • 126 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Old git,
    I’m sure insurance payments were weighed up against the cost of better medical facilities and more staff and the bean counters won over tge well being of the team.

  • 127 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:21 PM

    @ Jail for Ashley – Barnsley supporter said it wasn’t one of armstrongs better games, suggested the player who replaced him will make it hard for the lad to get back into the team. Early days yet.
    Still think it was the right move for the lad. Hope he does well.

  • 128 Oldgit1 // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:28 PM

    At Jail for Ashley re insurance you could be right, however. I still feel the good feel factor helps. Lassore has said that the facilities ie medical are very impressive at this club.

  • 129 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Agree 100% some players find it easier to hide in the dressing room when it’s not going well, Collos mysterious back injury being a prime example.

  • 130 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:36 PM

    Or his warm down injury at tye end of last season.

  • 131 Rotonda heights // Sep 14, 2016 at 1:41 PM

    Very sad of Ian to try and belittle KK. Hard to find the motives for that. But then again Ian thinks pardew is a very good coach and that Colback is a very good player. Go figure.

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