Why It’s A Potential Banana Skin For Magpies At Preston


The last time we won 6-0 was at QPR on 13th September and that was our 6th win in a row and we were playing Wolves at home four days later.

And (of course) that was obviously a  7th win in a row wasn’t it?

No – we played hopelessly and rightfully lost 2-0 and the bubble burst.

The similarities with the game at Preston on Saturday are obvious.

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Simon Grayson – Preston North End manager

We played Wolves twice in four days and we will play Preston twice in four days – once in the EFL Cup.

And we also just happen to be on a six game winning streak and an eight game unbeaten run since we lost to – you guessed it – Wolves.

Everybody is also upbeat about Newcastle at the moment – just like after the phenomenal win at QPR.

Preston are a good side witnessed by their two games before they met us on Tuesday night, when they beat Norwich 1-0 at Carrow Road and previously had just beaten  Huddersfield 3-1 at home.

Those were the two teams who had been above is in the league table recently,

Before Tuesday night the Lillywhites had gone seven games unbeaten including five wins and they had beaten Bournemouth away 3-2 after extra time in the previous round.

They are a team who have proved they can beat very good teams.

Manager Simon Grayson made 9 changes on Tuesday night to the side who beat Norwich 1-0 away and they will field their strongest possible team against Newcastle on Saturday afternoon.

As Rafa has already said they will be determined to put together a  much improved performance on Saturday in front of their home supporters to make up for the heavy defeat at St. James’ Park.

If our players go into this game expecting anything but a very tough and very difficult game we will lose.

So this is a good test of just how much our players heave learned from Rafa this season on what it takes to keep winning.

It’s a potential banana skin and we must respect Preston – who are certainly in-form and a side who have moved up the table over the last six weeks.

Rafa will give his press conference for this game early tomorrow afternoon and he is almost certain to say this could be a difficult and dangerous game for Newcastle.

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52 comments so far

  • Budge123

    Oct 27, 2016 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #1

    Missed the bus so –

    Just looking at my weekend bets and noticed that we are favourites to beat Hull.
    A Championship team away to a premiership team!
    12-1 to win the cup.

    Can still get 1/2 on us winning the Championship. You won’t get anything like that return in the bank and the bet is about as safe!

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  • WWSBRD

    Oct 27, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #2

    Banana skin or a likely continuation of our current form/dominance?

    What game in this league isn’t a banana skin game?

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  • BeeGuy

    Oct 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #3

    Preston will be a totally different squad from the cup. Who knows what they might have. They might try too hard, and leave themselves exposed. They might double down defensively and look to counter. On paper, NUFC would haver the edge, even at Deepdale, but the game is not played on paper.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #4

    3bettyswallocks // Oct 27, 2016 at 4:36 PM

    The current feel good factor in and around the club and the city is definitely helping to create a positive atmosphere on match days.

    How many times have we seen the team unable to play with confidence due to a tense atmosphere in the ground accompanied by groans of frustration at every misplaced pass. This had a knock on effect creating more tension within the team.

    Rafa was aware of this and has managed to get the mental aspect of the players right to avoid such scenarios which then helps the fans to stay behind the team in a positive way.

    The killjoys and doom mongers who don’t want to join in with the long overdue feel good factor have every right to stay negative and worry that Ashley might suddenly step in and destroy everything. However they shouldn’t be trying to convince others that they have no right to enjoy our new found Rafalution.

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  • hibbit

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #5

    bettyswallocks

    so the problems were all fan related thats pure bullshit
    tuesdays game shows they will get behind the team if they at lest try
    we have been served up pure rubbish for so long its surprising anyone can be bothered to turn up and spend there hard earned money but we do
    then we get idiots like you blaming the best fans in the world for getting upset when players never turned up and the club kept appointing 3rd rate coaches
    it beggars belief that people like you have the audacity to blame the fans

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  • hibbit

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #6

    bettyswallocks
    were are these killjoys and doom mongers definitely none in the ground at any of the home games this season and the city’s buzzing with football talk no killjoy’s here
    were are they ????

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #7

    By Dan King – Newcastle United Managing Editor

    Christopher Kavanagh will be the referee for Saturday’s trip to Preston North End (kick-off 3pm).
    He started refereeing in 1998 at the age of 13, and was appointed to the Football League list 16 years later. He has now taken charge of more than 50 league games.
    So far this term, he has refereed 13 matches in all competitions, showing 42 yellow cards but no reds – although he did send Sunderland boss David Moyes to the stands during the Black Cats’ EFL Cup defeat against Southampton on Wednesday night.
    It will be Kavanagh’s second match involving the Magpies this season as he oversaw the 1-1 draw at Aston Villa last month. He was also the man in the middle when Newcastle lost 1-0 to Sheffield Wednesday in the Capital One Cup last term.
    On Saturday, Kavanagh will be assisted by Nick Greenhalgh and James Mainwaring. David Webb will be the fourth official.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #8

    Hobbit…………..How was I blaming the fans you tool. Not even a good attempt at twisting my words. I said that since Rafa arrived the positivity around him and his vision for the club has created a massive feel good factor in and around the city and the club.

    What the killjoys and doom mongers want to write on a blog is a separate issue. Did you study comprehension in school?

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  • hibbit

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #9

    bettyswallocks

    “How many times have we seen the team unable to play with confidence due to a tense atmosphere in the ground accompanied by groans of frustration at every misplaced pass ”

    who you blaming here !!
    what we supposed to do cheer and clap them IDIOT

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #10

    Hibbit……….. I was not suggesting applauding players who weren’t trying you buffoon . I was highlighting the difference between the tense negative atmosphere at the ground before and since Rafa arrived.

    With the current positive atmosphere the odd mis placed pass would not create tension thus encouraging more attempts from the players to play creatively. If you can’t grasp this , I’m sorry .

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #11

    Never mind Hibbit, It must be hard to see the big picture when you have such a small screen. Brains are not everything, in fact in your case they’re nothing.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #12

    According to ‘WhoScored’, Hull only have 2 players with a rating above 7, and that’s the GK and Curtis Davies.

    Huddlestone and Hernandez (the players you would think would be worth worrying about) are the two worst players in the squad to start more than 5 games this season.

    Laughable.

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  • dok - the horrid colonial

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #13

    wow the names are flying out today…

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  • clinath@ed

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #14

    WW….I wasn’t condoning throwing games in Europe, just that if you didn’t want to compete in the tournament, for whatever reason, there was an easy way out. So to use Europe as an excuse not to compete and succeed in the season before was plain stupid.

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  • Jib

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #15

    betty

    You see how annoying it is when thickos twist your words ?

    hibbit -“so the problems were all fan related”

    not one word posted inferred anything like that.

    you have to wonder at the motivation for such distortion.

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  • Ian Toon

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #16

    Betty – Why bother . It would though have been kinder jut to quote George Caulkin. ” “Nothing has been determined and nothing has been won, important caveats at a football stadium which has often played host to a theatre of the damned, but although it is difficult to crow about a peculiar form of achievement, Newcastle United might just be living through the perfect relegation. If ever there could be a model for going down and rebooting, then St James Park is just the place……”

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #17

    Jib……… Yes it’s infuriating, but that’s what one has to contend with when trying to interact with people of limited intelligence .

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #18

    A little gang coming together to pick on and bully Hibbit for pointing out that betty’s comment @4 does actually read as he is blaming the fans for our downfall.

    “How many times have we seen the team unable to play with confidence due to a tense atmosphere in the ground accompanied by groans of frustration at every misplaced pass. This had a knock on effect creating more tension within the team.”

    Sounds like they couldn’t play because the fans were tense and groaning. Point is when they do play the fans get fully behind them, but that’s not the point here is it?

    Betty says that Rafa was aware of this:-

    “Rafa was aware of this and has managed to get the mental aspect of the players right to avoid such scenarios which then helps the fans to stay behind the team in a positive way.”

    Again it sounds like it was the fans to blame, and Rafa got the players mentally strong so the nasty fans wouldn’t upset them and take away their ability to perform.

    Suddenly it turned into a slagging match between Betty and Hibbit, until the likes of Jib and Ian Toon saw the opportunity to chime in and attack Hibbit.

    Pure class as usual!

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #19

    Firebug……. This is my last attempt at explaining my comments. I did not at any time imply that the fans were not justified in being tense, angry, disillusioned or showing any other emotion that they felt during our poor performances. I was merely pointing out that since Rafa has got the team playing with confidence we are now off the vicious circle that when a mistake is made the player and the crowd are not too adversely affected.

    Hibbit decided to imply that I was blaming the fans and then made it personal by insulting me. I’m not bothered at all though as I like a bit of banter and I find it quite cute when someone tries to talk about something they don’t understand .

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #20

    Ed, in all fairness every game is a banana skin.

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  • WWSBRD

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #21

    clinath
    I wasn’t implying u did mate just that it is pathetic

    U also have to consider the psychological affects on the squad when u throw away European football in such a manner though, how we treated our Europa journey didn’t sit well with our squad and they all quick saw their futures elsewhere

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #22

    Happy with a draw this weekend, there’s no way we we be scoring 6 again, this match i think will be close.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #23

    We we

    Ha ha ha

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #24

    Come on people, surely you can see that can be read both ways?

    Having read a fair bit of Bettys posts I knew what he meant. There were two separate points in the post. One highlighting how much rosier things are under Rafa and the other that the people who aren’t enjoying the rafalution should do so quietly as it’s not right to try and convince people on a blog of their own viewpoint by making them feel bad….but that doesn’t apply to calling them killjoys or doom mongers 🙂

    Glad to be of service.

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  • Ian Toon

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #25

    firebug- You really do need to look at the bigger picture!!!

    Betty is but not likely to lure the real target BandB into such a non event. It all stems from a lack of BandB guidance not being on tap to the blunderbus approach of everybodies best pal and dumbing down of the blog merchant.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    Comment #26

    What Grayson did say is that they have a smaller pitch, so I expect Rafa is sorting out that aspect on the training ground.

    Nothing left to chance!!

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #27

    betty

    I got where you were coming from, and understood your post, I was quite happy to sit on the side and leave it to you and Hibbit.

    I only pointed out where your post does sound like you are blaming the fans, and that is obviously how Hibbit read it, I just didn’t like that fact that Jib and Ian Toon took your row with Hibbit as an opportunity to gang up on him.

    The whole debate or slagging match should have been left to the two of you, I’m sure the two of you would have run out of insults soon enough without others joining in.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #28

    I remember the likes of Elliot, Shane Ferguson, Vuckic, Amilfitano, Gosling, Adam Campbell et alia getting starts in the Europa League. The transparently weakened team selections didn’t stop Pardew from blaming the Europa league for the side’s PL form.

    Watching the fringe players must be very taxing on first team regulars.

    If ever there was evidence of Pardew being a liar, it was Palace signing Remy over the summer. A player that alleges Pardew allowed him to sit out against Liverpool, an allegation which Pardew denies – somebody wasn’t telling the truth… Pardew signing Remy goes to show which one that was.

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #29

    Ian Toon

    I’m not sure why you have to bring BandB into anything, she has not been on for a while, and is not here to defend herself. Shameful!

    So you have sneaked in had a stab at two posters, will you be slinking of back down the tunnel now?

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  • Jib

    Oct 27, 2016 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #30

    Bill
    I picked up on that as well.

    Grayson implying we won’t get as much room to play in , at Deepdale.

    Not sure about that like .

    You don’t get much more compact than Loftus Road , and we twatted QPR 6 – 0 !

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #31

    There is not that much difference in pitch size:

    Deepdale is 101 m × 69 m

    St James Park is 105 by 68 m

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #32

    And yes I did Google that 😀

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  • Jib

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #33

    tapping foot ( impatiently )
    waiting for Loftus Road dimensions

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #34

    Sorry Jib I shall look now, I’m not use to this google stuff!

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #35

    100m x 66m Loftus Road BUT………

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  • Ian Toon

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #36

    Firebug- If I wish to communicate with BandB how does it involve you. It doesn’t !
    BandB will understand- that was my aim. I would much prefer reading her posts than the missives of late from her boy.

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  • lesh

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #37

    Firebug et al

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #38

    Hughes wants to increase it to 105m x 68m

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  • firebug666

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #39

    Ian Toon

    Knock yourself out marra. Enjoy!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 27, 2016 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #40

    The blog leopards have not changed their spots.
    Opportunists sneak in from stage left in a blindside attempt to put the boot in -when they sensed the opportunity.
    Reminds me of two groups fighting each other on the street when from the back of the crowd a couple sneak up to put the boot in and then slink back. Usually skinny short arses.
    What Band B has to do with what has been said today just shows the mischief afoot.

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