It Wasn’t Hard To Predict What’s Happened To Andros Townsend

It wasn’t rocket science to predict what could happen to Andros Townsend after he left Newcastle at the end of June for Crystal Palace.

That came after he had been little short of sensational for the Magpies under Rafa Benitez in those final  games of last season.

Andros was even expected to stay on Tyneside after he had admitted that Rafa had made him into a better player after he had made the 26 man squad for England for the Euro 2016 tournament, although he didn’t make the cut to the final 23.

But he eventually decided to leave Newcastle to fight for his England place.

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Andros Townsend while at Newcastle last season

Andros was dropped for the Crystal Palace game against Liverpool over the weekend (Liverpool won 4-2) after he has been struggling at Selhurst Park with only one goal and no assists in 11 appearances for his new club.

When he left Newcastle we thought it was a short-sighted career move, because it was Rafa who had made him into a much better player.

And hopefully Newcastle would only be down below in the Championship for one season – so Andros was essentially basing his decision on one season.

To be fair to Andros – it was still a risk that Newcastle would not get straight back – but it’s not turning out that way at the moment.

After four years of Alan Pardew we know Alan is not in the same class as Rafa – either in coaching or in  man-management which includes getting the best out of the players available.

Alan Pardew is a decent enough coach but nowhere near world-class.

Here’s what we wrote in this article on June 29th:

“This is also an early blow for Rafa Benitez, who made Andros into a better player in a short 10 games at the end of last season – by the player’s own admission.”

“It’s short-sighted by Andros not to see the big picture of why he managed to get into the England 26 man squad this summer after being in the wilderness at Tottenham for so long.”

“It was the world-class coaching of Rafa Benitez.”

“Alan Pardew is not a world-class coach – we know that because he was at Newcastle for four years and the difference in class between the two managers is staggering.”

And the irony of this will not have gone unnoticed, because when Andros signed on at Palace he had said this:

“Hopefully Alan Pardew can take my game to another level.”

Well he has – but unfortunately for Andros it’s not the level he was hoping for.

Andros recently said he could even return to Newcastle someday in the future, but that will not happen.

Newcastle are doing well so far, having won 14 of our last 16 games and into the quarter-finals of the League Cup for the first time in a long while.

Of course it’s early days yet so we hope Andros can get his career back on track at Palace, who are the 13th club he has played for in his career.

Comments welcome.

24 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #1

    Adam Johnson – the mackems’ desperation for points overrode discretion and sensitivity. He should have been stuck on garden leave, innocent or guilty, until matters were clarified.

    Conclusion? Shoddy mackems.

  • check the toastie

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #2

    Totally agree Tsunki, shit stance on a sex offender. He was charged remember. Should never have been close to the club.

    Loving them suffer, took pelters last year.

    Scum club, city and fans.

  • Tsunki

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #3

    Ed I’m not sure it was Rafa who got him started he seemed to be sparking along well under McCardew while the team as a whole did the headless chickens thing. No doubt Rafa would have him buzzing nicely in this league by now though

    It was the right idea, move to PL to revive England interest. The hitch was in deciding on Pardews Palace as the vehicle. I think in the Jan window he could consider a contrite return to his previous stamping ground, cap in hand, and let Rafa do the business to his faltering career 🙂

  • mickybraham

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #4

    Think the biggest points gap in the 2nd Tier is 18 points between 1st and 2nd. Reading and M city. Only went back as far as 1990 though. Someone asked on previous thread

  • jakesome

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #5

    @1 and 2 not defending the unwashed but we regularly played Remy whilst he had a court case looming. It is a different standard for footballers as they are worth millions……… It’s terrible but true

  • Tsunki

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Jakesome – no charges made, and it wasn’t for the same thing as Johnson.

    Thing is, innocent until proven etc or not, if someone is charged with such an offence, do you allow said individual to counsel junior footballers, do autographs for adoring young female fans etc? I would hope not.

  • Tsunki

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #7

    And the guy himself – what was he thinking? He would get off with it? What a toad.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #8

    I was wondering how Reading were after 15 games when they broke the record.

  • Jib

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #9

    Jail I posted a link after you asked the q
    Scroll back
    Reading had 34 points the same as us

  • martoon

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #10

    Tsunki & Check – This is a very emotive subject because it is about under age sex but just because you’re charged doesn’t mean you are guilty.
    I think Jib hit the nail on the head – if he told someone at the club he was guilty then I agree with everything you say but if he told them he was innocent then they had to wait for the trial.

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #11

    For the sake of accuracy some corrections.

    “Jib // Nov 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM
    Martoon he was arrested after a thorough investigation by Tyne and Wear police and bailed to appear in court.
    Not just a case of media shit stirring.”

    He was arrested shortly after the allegation – and the thorough investigation was conducted after his arrest – (phones/texts etc).
    He was not bailed to attend court initially but bailed to return to the cop shop pending their
    investigations. On his return to the cop shop he was charged – by Durham Police (no such police force as Tyne and Wear Police).

    Sunderland suspended him originally but then allowed him back after representations from the PFA. Apparently Durham Police told the club the nature of the allegations.

    Submitted for accuracy and not to form the basis of a ruck.

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #12

    tsunki @6 – Sunderland also failed to follow their own policies with regard to safeguarding children (same a every club)

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #13

    A lot of Mackems living away see themselves as Geordies.

    I worked with a couple of them in a large government office and they would do a little sketch every year for charity usually at Divali. They said they were Geordie Sunderland supporters and sing The Blaydon Races.

    I didn’t like to burst their bubble as it was for a good cause and they were canny enough lads.

    Not all Sunderland supporters are evil scumbags, most of them are actually decent blokes (and lasses) who are just as committed to their team as we are to ours.

    And they can’t help where they were born.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #14


    That list you posted earlier about cr^p owners, you missed out the Venky’s. Who are possibly the worst.

  • martoon

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #15

    As you are here Tuff and you know something about the law if Sunderland had continued with Johnson’s suspension could he have brought a case against them for loss of earnings etc. as he hadn’t been found guilty yet?

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #16

    Little bit about Elmahanni in the Birmingham Mail. Plus a video compilation of his skills.
    Rarely seen such total awareness/control of the ball before. Hope he makes it – seems focused.

  • Jib

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #17

    Mr Tuff
    Actually Northumbria Police
    Clever dicky nitty picky

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #18

    martoon – not sure about the civil law side. I would guess he would fail as the circumstances of what happened would be relevant. – ie grooming texts, suggestive texts, clandestine meetings in out of the way car parks.
    He could not really claim his actions were totally above board – with a 15 year old.

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #19

    Jib Jibberish – stop digging a larger hole.
    Northumbria Police extend south from the Scottish Border to just south of Sunderland.
    Thereafter it is Durham Police’s area.
    The offences did not occur within the jurisdiction of Northumbria Police but in the Durham Police area – hence Durham Police investigated the allegations.

    Article from the Sunderland Echo who state Durham Police arrest him (unless you say they are wrong as well).

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #20

    Mr Tuff

    Wasn’t there a similar video to that of Aarons going the rounds at one time.

  • posada

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #21

    If someone is charged with a criminal matter it is very significant.
    It means the Crown Prosecutor has assessed the evidence and thinks there is a strong case, otherwise they would not run it.
    Totally different to being on Police bail pending an investigation as was the case with Remmy.

    If your Doctor or Social Worker was charged with a crime like that they would not be allowed to continue working with young people and vulnerable people.
    Should that be applied to footballers. Personally I thing it should.

    They get paid thousands for their perceived worth. They should at least pay back society by maintaining a basic standard of decency.

  • posada

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #22

    On Townsend. We did well to get our money back.
    Thank you Alan.
    He was a problem to Spurs. Raffa got some good games out of him.
    He has never done it consistently over an extended period.

  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 1, 2016 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #23

    Essex – not sure about that – Have not seen it if there was. Do not normally check out these types of videos but with this one and a couple of others about him – the kid has certainly got some ability – to go with it he just needs to prove he has the “footballing” ability as well.

  • mfw13

    Nov 1, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #24

    This shouldn’t be any suprise, as it happens quite frequently to players moving to a “bigger” club.

    Look at what happened to Cabaye after he left us….struggled to get playing time at PSG, lost his place in the France squad, and ended up at Crystal Palace.

    Sissoko hasn’t been getting much playing time at Tottenham, and neither has Winaldjum at Liverpoo


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