Newcastle Fans React On Twitter To Potential Shelvey Ban





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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 8, 2016 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #1

    We’re not a one man team and we’ll prove it.

    Rafa (all hail him) will sort it out.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #2

    If he did do it, and said something in breach of the laws, rules, basic decency, then he deserves the ban. Is there any alleged information on what he may, or may not have said?

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 8, 2016 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #3

    If he’s found guilty he’s a moron and if it was racial what he said he needs an example made imo

    I will reserve judgement though until it all comes out

    Who replaces him in the team? We aren’t well stocked in CMs unless Diame drops back and operates there (tbf it’s where he was best at other clubs) which would give Perez a real run in the team, anyway u cut it though it’s a big blow time for Rafa to prove himself again I suppose

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  • Jib

    Nov 8, 2016 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #4

    I’m confused.
    How do you racially abuse a white Morrocan player who only speaks French !

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  • Toonfan8

    Nov 8, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #5

    hmm, maybe this will be time to play both Mitro and Gayle, because without Shelvey we will have to change our game, we will miss his vision, passing and creativity..

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  • bettyswallocks

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #6

    If we had a left winger then 442 with two wingers and Mitro and Gayle up front could have been an option. Gouffran’s not really a winger and Atsu not ready or whatever.

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:17 PM

    Comment #7

    Am sure Rafa will have a plan in place already no way the club didn’t know this was coming

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #8

    Jib,
    Really? You don’t understand how a person could racially abuse a Northern African Arabic player? Racism works in plenty of ways, and against plenty of people.

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  • Jimmy……Jimmy……Jimmy Smith

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #9

    Any combination of Tiote, Hayden, Colback, and Diame, behind Perez in a 4231, or Gayle and Mitro in a 442, surely would still be the envy of every other Championship side and most likely allow us to roll on.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM

    Comment #10

    Jib,
    That obviously explains your numerous racial outbursts, you are oblivious to what racism is!

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Comment #11

    The charge seems to be eagerly reported as racist abuse yet the misdemeanour includes saying something naughty about the country he hails from. Would that mean you could get a four game ban for calling a player a “French idiot” but not for “Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey”, for example? Whatever. It looks a lot like the FA sat on a hearsay allegation and Wolves/Wolves player concerned have phoned up to ask what’s happening to their accusation, prompting a show of action on a sensitive subject.

    Unless there was a directional microphone aimed at him or a suspicious plate of sandwiches lying in the grass near the incident it looks a lot like his word against another’s. Whatever he said that is.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #12

    WWSBRD ; If someone has done something wrong they should not be made an example of. They should receive just punishment and not singled out for excessive punishment to prove a point or to make a moral stance.

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  • lochinvar

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #13

    Was the incident televised ?
    If that’s the case the TV pundits and/or lip readers usually attempt to decipher what was or wasn’t said.
    However can’t believe that it taken someone weeks to complain and then the FA weeks to react. That in itself sound dubious.
    Shelvey’s part of a multi-racial team of many nationalities so you would expect or hope that’s not part of the issue as he plays and socialises with his mates.
    More likely he reacted to something said to our players or was protecting his team mate Anita who was being sent off then you would think that there’s been verbals on both sides – and its up to the FA to determine what the intent was and if something inappropriate was said – with malice or as a reaction ? Who knows but it could be that there’s no case no answer and that the FA have to go through the motions. On the other hand if it’s seen differently then it doesn’t automatically mean a 5 match ban unless it is clearly proven as a serious incident.
    Fans across the country call the Refs dodgy twats every week so beware the FA !

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  • Jib

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #14

    Lilo
    You miss my point (as does Jail but he’s stupid )

    To be abused you have to feel humiliated.

    If he doeesn’t speak English how can he feel humiliated.

    I’m sure Shelvey doesn’t know any French abusive phrases

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:34 PM

    Comment #15

    Racists …………………………….OOT
    Sexists……………………………..OOT

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  • Average_Contents

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #16

    Lil

    Are you really suprised jizz doesn’t get it?

    He can’t help how he was dragged up.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #17

    Plus I think the racism thing is mainly a crowd-oriented focus isn’t it? I would think especially English players in the English game are sufficiently cultured these days, working in a gloriously multi-cultural sports society, not to harbour attitudes and blurt utterances that could offend their own team mates let alone others. Sounds like a loud breakage of wind this one.

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  • BandB

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #18

    It’s a shame Shelvey wasn’t bugged, innit?

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #19

    Novo
    I disagree mate the FA can give a just punishment as set by their previous rulings but the club itself should set an example imo

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #20

    What a dope.
    The charges:-
    It is alleged that in or around the 87th minute of the fixture, he used abusive and/or insulting words towards an opponent.

    It is further alleged that this breach of Rule E3(1) is an “Aggravated Breach” as defined in Rule E3(2), as it included reference to ethnic origin and/or race and/or nationality.

    What Shelvey said was heard by a teammate of Saiss – who clearly understood what was said and reported the incident.

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  • Jib

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #21

    Tsunki
    I’ve been at SJP when a supporter next to me has screamed at an oppo player something about being an effing black c….
    When I’ve pointed out Shola and Cissé to him he’s replied
    Yeah but they’re OUR effing black c…s

    mad

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  • Novocastrian66

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #22

    Before someone is charged there has to have been an investigation. Surely the FA contacted Newcastle and or Shelvey when the original accusation was made.
    There must be a case to answer however whenever the FA and Newcastle are involved it seems to be an iron fist approach. While other clubs seem to get the velvet glove treatment.

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #23

    Jib
    Its not racist because he said it in English and the lad it was aimed at didnt speak English? Am I reading u right?

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #24

    Clearly heard as proved by who, Mr T?

    Surely it would be good to wait until we’ve heard from Mr Shelvey first? After all, wasn’t young Mr. Johnson of the murky-bathwater clan afforded a lot of leeway?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #25

    Jib,
    I don’t really speak a lot of Chichewa, but I do know words that would be considered racially abusive.

    Has it said he doesn’t speak or understand any English?

    Does a person really have to understand an insult for it to be abusive or insulting? Is it not still racially abusive even if the person targeted doesn’t understand it? Maybe another player reported it as racially abusive as he did understand, and was offended like most decent people would be?

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #26

    It seems the club shop has been selling a good few souvenir Black Caps prior to the guillotine installation…

    🙂

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  • Jib

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #27

    Jail
    Could you trawl back and provide evidence of my

    “numerous racial outbursts”

    otherwise stop perpetuating this lie.

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  • BandB

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #28

    Eee, we don’t want to be getting into that “his word against hers” defence, Tsunki.
    Best to leave it to football fans to pass judgement, and petition for which points should be docked.

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  • BandB

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #29

    Anything else is TURTALLY missing the point.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #30

    As reported in the Chronic.
    “The incident took place in the 87th minute of Wolves’ 2-0 win at St James’ Park on September 17.

    The Express & Star understands that a team mate of Saiss’ reported the alleged racial term, with the Moroccan midfielder’s grasp of English being limited.

    It was reported by Wolves to officials at the end of the match. And the FA have now charged Shelvey with misconduct.”

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:47 PM

    Comment #31

    I don’t know what he said,or even what he has been alleged to have said. If he did though, he deserves any punishment the panel deem fair. If he didn’t then, all good and well. No harm done.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #32

    Jonjo Shelvey, it is my grave duty to pronounce you guilty of whatever crime you may in future be guilty of, and to pass the most severe sentence permissible by Law upon you. May the FA have mercy on your soul.

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  • Jib

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #33

    WWSBRD // Nov 8, 2016 at 9:41 PM
    Jib
    Its not racist because he said it in English and the lad it was aimed at didnt speak English? Am I reading u right?

    NO

    I’ll say it slowly

    The comment may well have been rascist.

    It’s debatable if it’s abuse if the guy didn’t understand it.

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  • Jimmy……Jimmy……Jimmy Smith

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #34

    Once the offended player makes the complaint the FA will have to investigate. Racial slurs have become a significant issue, but its sometimes hard to pin down what actually does constitute racial abuse, unless the relevant laws are clear and specific. Are they? Otherwise it might drag on, and on, and on, and develop a life of its own, for better or worse.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #35

    Mr T – where was the bit that said “What Shelvey said was heard by a teammate of Saiss – who clearly understood what was said and reported the incident”?

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  • Novocastrian66

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #36

    WWSBRD the club will have a code of conduct and disciplinary process. No doubt the club will take action if Shelvey has broken the rules and any punishment administered will be within those rules.
    Excessive punishment should not be given to prove a point or to make an example of someone’s actions.
    Draconian punishments are unjust.

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #37

    Jib
    Ur still saying if the lad didnt understand it then its ok which it isnt in anyway

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Jib Jibberish – following your logic if a deaf person of African origin was shouted at using racists terms -such as the N word – no offence would be committed – because he could not hear the abuse.
    Man you need some equality training.

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  • BandB

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #39

    As, indeed, are racist outbursts, should it prove to be the case.

    Unless, of course, they can offer the “well it didn’t offend ME!” defence.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 8, 2016 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #40

    Tsunki – clearly the other player must have believed it was racists abuse – otherwise there would not have been an early complaint – is that not logical.

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