How Transfers Were Controlled Before Rafa Arrived


The Chronicle has an interesting piece out today on  the way transfers were partially controlled under Alan Pardew.

Each position was controlled by the amount of total wages set for each of the individual positions and that wage figure couldn’t be exceeded.

So we suppose that was based on keeping the total wages at the club below a certain figure and at a certain percentage of the revenues the club was receiving.

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Graham Carr – responsible for bringing players into the club

As an example, if we had a right-back at the club we could bring in another one, but only if his wages kept the right back position below the allotted  maximum wage figure.

So if the right back we had was getting £40K/week and the allotted amount for right back was £65K/week we could bring in another player – but he couldn’t be paid more than £25K/week.

That sounds like a typical thing former Managing Director Derek LLambias would do – it’s all based on money – but that has all been changed with Rafa coming into the club and money is no longer king at the club – players are.

No word on how the total transfer money available for each window was arrived at, but we assume the club would allocate a maximum amount for each transfer window.

That would be what Chief Scout Graham Carr would be guided by – since he was the one who decided which players would come into the club in each transfer window – not Alan Pardew.

It was a daft system that never worked and was completely scrapped when Rafa Benitez joined Newcastle earlier this year.

Good.

Comments welcome.



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25 comments so far

  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #1

    Now I remember the incident when Anita was given the red card at Wolves. It was a bit spicy and Shelvey was at the heart of it, not that I m confirming the alegation. But the probability of the kn#b head losing it seems likely.

    However, it does allow Diame to move back to his more normal position and a proper #10 to come in (or Ritchie).

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #2

    And this is why Carr had to shop for bargain basement players Im guessing in France and Holland on low wages time and time again.

    Pathetic policies which resulted in relegation for me.

    The system just did not work on the footballing side of things, but made money on the financial side.

    Spending money eventually was little too late. The squad was poor as a whole and unbalanced. The damage was done.

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  • WWSBRD

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #3

    Has it all changed now? May still be hoe the club operates

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  • BandB

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #4

    Given that Ashley showed himself happy to allow the club to spend sizeable chunks of its earnings on transfers, it was always self-evident that wages were the real stumbling block and are quite likely to remain so.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #5

    I do still maintain that it’s not as simple as our wages policy, or even as simple as buying “duds”. Some were great, some were hit and miss and some were poor. That happens everywhere.

    What was more telling is watching good players get worse as time went on. Morale dropping.

    For me, this was more to do with what went down once a player arrived, rather than the type of player we went after, although that side of things can always use working on.

    On the Shelvey news, I do hope it isn’t true, whatever the circumstances, in today’s world it’s simply not acceptable. Some things are more important than what’s best for our team or league position.

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  • Sav

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #6

    It is always down to money. In any business it is always about the money. The budget may be bigger but there’s still a budget. As an ex IBM man, Ed, you should know that.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #7

    I’m pretty sure AP used to thank himself for the transfers!!

    Ironically that even though the original model was a complete fiasco, Rafa’s acumen in the market has seen us shift so much deadwood, as well as obtaining premium prices for Liverpool, Tottenham and Palace subs, all means we now are probably in very good financial shape.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #8

    prodigy

    having SM in charge of an 80M influx of players didn’t help.

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  • toonincheek

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #9

    Not an Ashley supporter, but to some extent,
    I do buy into the need to sort out finances.

    Bottom line for me is that the managers we have had
    (AP, JC, SM) have NOT got anywhere near the best
    out of the players we have had.
    And THAT is the No. 1 job of any manager.

    So – the management is not blameless, say 40%,
    but I blame the managers for the 60%.

    Although – you can always blame the management
    for the managers they appointed!

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #10

    I don’t think he was in charge Rotonda? I think the players had already been scouted and he was handed them. There is talk of how much say he had being a member of the board but I do not believe he had the final say, nothing like Rafa has at the moment.

    The amount of first class players we could and should of had was unreal. Because we refused to pay 80k a week for top players during which these policies were in place was criminal.

    Carr had no choice but to scout players on around 20k a week in France and Holland so were huge gambles in the Premier League and failed many of times. We got players well down in his list, probably 3rd and 4th choice, this was all to do with not paying the going rate for top players wages where the gamble would of been alot less. Dare I say it, but kept us in the League aswell.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #11

    I always thought it was a budget set by Mikes accountants which brought about a fantasy football style policy. Pathetic.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #12

    All very well this year when Rafa had some pretty expensive players to offload and needed to be be championship squad at championship wages, all nicely to budget.

    The acid test will be summertime when Rafa knocks on Charnleys door like Oliver Twist with his bowl, asking for the cash for a premier league squad. NOT nicely to budget.

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  • toonincheek

    Nov 9, 2016 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #13

    The basis of the financial restrictions is so illogical.

    If there really was a limit on wages for each position,
    and given the salary that Coloccini was supposedly on,
    then it’s easy to understand why we never got cover
    for that position.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #14

    If it were ManU that had a wage cap on positions it may be more of a positive revelation, in an effort to suppress rising excess of player costs. However as NUFC do not match 1% of the commercial revenue generated and have never looked like they were improving on that front. Whilst at the same time presenting a more and more cheap image and depressingly poorer performances on the pitch. I hope a more wise approach to the management of the club is evolving and will continue to project a more positive corporate identity.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #15

    # sorry about the grammar, editting is limited by using my phone.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #16

    What is the EFL Trophy?
    How does it work with U23 PL teams?
    Are our Academy team in it?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #17

    Mannequin Callenge – Pfft!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #18

    EFL trophy = League Cup

    EFL = English Football League

    http://www.efl.com/

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #19

    Tuff

    EFL Check a Trade Trophy, can not be the same as the League Cup. There are reports of low crowd attendance and Bristol City subbing their goal keeper after 2 minutes. It could be the present incarnation of the Johnson Paint Trophy. I do not know ic Academies, including ours, are competing?

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  • dem

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #20

    Lindisfarne

    From the the highlights I watched of the wolves game, when Anita made the challenge that got him sent off, Shelvey was in the vacinity. He didn’t get involved from what I saw a walked out of shot. Maybe he said it (if he even did) as he was walking away towards his defensive position. Can we take a guess that it was heard by the AM or ST?

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  • Budge123

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #21

    Premier academies were asked to take part. Most declined.
    We weren’t initially asked and declined when asked I believe.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #22

    Got it:

    The EFL Trophy is an annual English association football knock-out competition open to the 48 clubs in Football League One and Football League Two, the third and fourth steps of the English football league system and, for the 2016–17 season, 16 under-21 sides from Premier League and Football League Championship teams.

    Leads me to ask, why does Beardsley as Academy leader, not think winning is worthwhile?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #23

    Budge 123

    If it were by invitation rather than qualification, then I apologise for the accusation I made regarding Beardsley role.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #24

    dem

    I can not access highlights, but remember there naturally being some dissatisfaction that surfaced towards the end of the game and my attention wasdrawn towards Shelvey at one point.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #25

    Lindifarne – you said nowt about Checkatrade.

    Their teams and tables.

    http://www.efl.com/checkatrade-trophy/checkatrade-trophy-tables/

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