Bad News For Hull – Good News For Newcastle

The game League Cup tie with Hull City is just one day less than two weeks away and it’s clear that Rafa will field a very strong side for that game so we can reach the semi-finals – which is a two-legged tie as we try to reach a final for the first time in 18 years.

The last time we were at Wembley we were beaten 2-0 by Manchester United in 1999 and the year before that we had lost 2-0 to Arsenal.

Whereas Newcastle this season have lots of players available and Rafa can basically field two completely different sides and there’s not much to choose between those sides, Hull City have been short of players nearly all season.


Mike Phelan – Hull manager – injury concerns

Hull City at one point just before the start of the season had only 15 fit players available.

They have a number of injury concerns at the moment and some of their players have already been ruled out of the Newcastle game.

Former Newcastle target Abel Hernandez has a groin strain and will definitely miss the game and only yesterday it was announced that Hull City striker Will Keane has undergone surgery on his knee and will be out for up to a year.

It’s a similar ACL knee injury that Tim Krul picked up last season and he is still to make his comeback in a competitive match and has been out 13 months already.

Manager Mike Phelan has this to say on the Hull web-site yesterday about Will Keane, the twin brother of Michael Keane the Burnley center-back:

“To lose a player of Will’s quality and potential for such a long period of time is a big blow.” 

“I’m sure his determination and mindset will see him through the tough journey ahead.”

All players who are out and listed on the web-site include:

Player          Injury                  Return Date

A Hernandez	Groin Strain		December 5, 2016	
W Keane	        ACL Knee Injury		No Return Date	
M Odubajo	Patella Fracture	May 1, 2017	
A Robertson	Calf Muscle Strain	December 10, 2016	
G Luer   	Knee Injury		December 26, 2016	
A Bruce 	Achilles Injury		December 17, 2016

One bit of good news for Hull is that first choice goalkeeper Allan McGregor is finally off the injury list, but he is getting back to match fitness with some games in the Hull U23 side, although he has a chance of making the Newcastle game.

So at the moment it looks like manager Mike Phelan – who has a small squad to start with – has only 18 players fit at the moment with three of the above injured players expected back next month, but after the Newcastle game.

Hull are currently 3rd bottom of the Premier League with 10 points from their first 11 games and 5 points ahead of Swansea and Sunderland – and one point behind West Ham and safety from the dreaded drop.

Newcastle have a good chance of beating Hull on Tuesday, November 29th if we can play somewhere near our best form.

Injuries are unlikely to be a problem for us given the big squad of 27 senior players Rafa put together in the summer.

Comments welcome.

23 comments so far

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Trying to keep up, zimmer frame creaking with the effort.

    How come there are so many votes for us to lose or draw ffs we are top of the league chaps with a great squad and manager.

    No doubt when Ed asks us to vote on the possible result of the Hull game there’ll be a load of pessimists for that as well.

    As for Carrick and Gerrard why not Lampard as well so we’ve got all of the golden oldies!!

  • thebatman_1

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #2

    Hey ED, our last Wembley appearance was actually in 2000 in the FA Cup Semi Final against Chelsea when we lost 2-1.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #3

    If we are playing spot Hibbit, I guess he’s the one at the back with the lass with the blonde hair.

  • nut meg

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #4

    I did spell it as Spyda at first then I changed my mind cos I couldn’t remember which spelling it was so you could well be right.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #5

    The average age of out current regular players is 26.

    Signing people the age of Carrick and/or Gerrard would take it to above 30.

    Don’t know why I worked that out just seemed a pointless way of passing time.

    Having said that Goufrron by way of contrast to those two is a youthful 30 so using them as a comparison he’s still got five good years left in the tank. So why do so many want to to get rid of him?

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #6

    Looked like the blog has gone into a hiatus for the moment so I’ll do likewise.


    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #7

    Because goofy isn’t very good whereas Carrick at least is Gerrard I’ve not seen any of him in America so hard to judge on him


    Nov 16, 2016 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #8

    Shelvey pleads innocent

  • Mickey G

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #9

    Shelley pleads innocent,he has a witness, available for Leeds game

  • lochinvar

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #10

    Newcastle United midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has pleaded not guilty to a Football Association charge of allegedly using racially abusive language to an opposing player.

    The England international, 24, was charged following an incident during the Magpies’ 2-0 Championship defeat by Wolves on Saturday, 17 September.

    He has requested a personal FA hearing.

    A club statement said no further comment will be made until the matter is concluded.

  • Mickey G

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #11

    That should be Shelvey, not Shelly otherwise he would be poetry in motion

  • Toonces

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #12

    In regards to looking forward to the match with Hull, it seems each similar time in the past that we looked at an upcoming fixture and it was suggested how good it is for us that the other team has certain key injuries or suspensions, we ended up dropping points in those matches. This is a bad luck article! Just play the game, play hard, don’t count on the other team’s injuries.


    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #14

    Worst team in England ouch if it wasn’t for Pardew I’d quite like Palace

  • AncientC

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #15

    Pardew is putting some of Palace’s poor form down to changing the way Palace play football.

    Pardew speaking during the summer: “I want the side to retain the ball, to play a brand of football we couldn’t really do last season due to injuries and the squad’s strength,” said Pardew. “We want more consistent displays and that will come with a stronger, deeper squad.”

    I remember old Pard’s telling us the same thing every preseason.

  • Tsunki

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #16

    I think we need Jib to do the legwork on this one -what could be the benefit for Shelvey to leave his appeal to the last minute? Does it stall a possible suspension?

  • beermonkey

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #17


    i would think he will get the sack soon
    i think the only reason he didnt get it last season was there fa cup run


    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #18

    I hope so Palace are a good club and deserve better

  • Tsunki

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #19

    I mean, for more than just the Leeds game? I mean, if he’s innocent…. Unless he had trouble getting his alibi 🙂


    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #20

    My guess is the hearing will be done next week so he’s available for Leeds then the ban starts if he’s not cleared

  • Jib

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Whoever was asking about beamback Tickets for the Hull City cuptie – try this.

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #22

    beer at 13

    wouldn’t let mag 52 see that!!!

  • hibbit

    Nov 16, 2016 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #23

    Hull have the same goal as us the Premiership
    they want to stay in it and we want to join it
    staying in the prem is far more important to hull than some micky mouse cup
    I don’t expect Pheland to put out a strong team away with or without injuries


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