After Some Moaning And Groaning We Need To Buckle Down


We’ll have to moan and groan for a bit yet, after that shocking display from referee Stephen Martin last night, but in the cold light of day it was still another 3 points lost and our third defeat in 6 days.

Yesterday was not a good day – I got some bad personal news too, so it was a bad day all around with Newcastle then losing.

Newcastle went from three defeats this season to six defeats this season – and that’s not good and we simply need at some point to hunker down, concentrate on the football and get back to our winning ways.

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Referee Stephen Martin

It was  a bizarre game last night and it seems in some way the Newcastle games may be too big for some of these  inexperienced referees in this league.

Paul Dummett could get his sending-off revoked and it reminded us of Coloccini’s dismissal at Sunderland when that was also just before half time too and he gave away a penalty with an innocuous tackle on Fletcher and was sent off.

Coloccini’s red card was scaled back to a yellow on appeal, but of course the damage was already done.

As far as the Jonjo Shelvey sending off – he lost control and he will be out for three games – there’s just no way that red card will be overturned.

And since on December 19th there will be a hearing on his FA misconduct charge, he could be out for at least the next 8 games if he is found guilty and that will impact Newcastle big time.

So we have definitely hit some stormy weather in the league at the moment.

The bottom line is once we let off a little bit of steam we need to quickly get back to business – and if it means the referees are biased against us in some games – so be it.

We still have to find ways of winning and getting out of this league.

We’re devastated about what happened last night and what happened last week – but we have to get over it and simply keep moving forward.

There’s nothing else to do.

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31 comments so far

  • Bambams

    Dec 3, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #1

    I have never felt so annoyed about a referees performance since Trelford Mills

    Watch again the linesman flagging for the Shelvey incident…..He couldn’t wait for his moment of fame AND it was obvious from the replay he did not have a view of the incident. Just reacted to that bloody thespian

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  • lochinvar

    Dec 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #2

    Apparently off the ball incident should be red and drop ball not a penalty?

    Can someone verify that ?
    If that’s the case then the Ref should be sent back to basic training g course.

    Sum total:
    Good goal disallowed
    Definite penalty not given
    Second penalty shout for handball not checked with linesman who turned a blind eye.
    Play not stopped for false whistle.
    Foul not given on Shelvey
    Forest player not sent off for same incident
    Penalty wrongly awarded for that off the ball incident
    Dummet card wrongly given
    First Forest goal not disallowed as player came back from off the pitch and offside and interfered with play and blocked keeper ( remember Sisdoko goal against City was disallowed )

    FA need to investigate betting activity associated with the match

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 3, 2016 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #3

    On field off the ball incident has to result in a free kick/penalty. No dropped balls.

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  • posada

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #4

    How do you feel this morning. How did you feel after last nights game. I can guess.
    Take that feeling and bottle it. Then bring it to our next game and unbottle it. Get in your seat early, create some atmosphere and support the lads from the first whistle until the last.
    The week started badly last Saturday.
    50 odd thousand turned up and a lot of folks are like a theatre audience. Time for another routine win. If the script is not followed and we are not 2-0 up after 20 minutes they stop their support.
    The FA don’t like NUFC. They kick us at every opportunity.
    Other clubs are trying every dirty trick in the book to beat us and Refs seem to help them in that.
    Siege mentality needed all round.
    Up until last Saturday we all thought this was going to be plain sailing all the way back to the Prem.
    It won’t be. We have no divine right to win games.

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  • one fine day

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #5

    Bambams @1
    Whoa that’s was my first ever game at st James in the cup v Brighton
    Stood in the milburn paddock
    Went home thinking that must be how angry people get at every game
    Can still remember vradi getting goals chalked off
    Last night was at the same level .
    I still went back the next week …. Once it’s under your skin n that .

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  • toontaff2

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #6

    I’m looking forward to seeing Wor ‘enry! Please keep the bairns at home- I don’t want them learning any new words!
    Posada is spot on – time to ramp up the volume!

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  • toontaff2

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #7

    Was HippHeed in the ref’s changing room passing him a big fat brown envelope?

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  • toontaff2

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #8

    Can you imagine Mourinho and some other managers, after that?

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #9

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Lansbury

    it all makes sense now, he is an actor hahaha

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #10

    That picture of the ref makes him look like rugby player, was he officiating in the wrong match.

    He obviously isn’t a proper Soccer referee.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #11

    San is being lined up to pull CP out of the sh!te, probably succeed.

    Wonder which team will take him on next.

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #12

    At least we’ve been promoted.

    We used to be Doom and Gloomers. Now we’re Moaners and Groaners.

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  • Average_Contents

    Dec 3, 2016 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #13

    Is his second name roid? Ste…I’m sure you’s get it.

    He needs to lay off em. Fcuking halfwit.

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  • Bambams

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #14

    One fine day

    I remember that game and it has always been stuck in my memory…..

    Only bring it out once a decade after a shocking refereeing performance.

    But we have seen a few shockers over the years !

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #15

    Funny isn’t it how just before the game there were a few dissenting voices sick of all the rotation etc.

    Now it appears the rotation etc is going to have to be the thing that keeps us going. Funny Old game isn’t it?

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #16

    That’s quite a look the ref has in that picture. I imagine he’s just about to ask someone for their clothes, their boots and their motorcycle.

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #17

    “I got some bad personal news too, so it was a bad day all around with Newcastle then losing.”

    Not medical, I hope, Ed.

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  • dcdick

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #18

    What happens to this ref now then ?

    If he has any integrity he will file his match report truthfully & ask for retrospective action from the FA in Dummets case

    This game really should be declared void & replayed at a neutral venue with all cards rescinded

    Of course it won’t happen but this kind of thing leaves a bad taste that I’m afraid is going to linger on for the rest of this season.

    D.

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  • AncientC

    Dec 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #19

    Manchester City are playing a 3-2-4-1 against Chelsea; radical. Just when you thought Conte’s tactics were progressive – up steps Guardiola.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #20

    Good grief.

    Look at that head and body. Beta chump with inadequacy issues gets roided up and becomes a footy ref, then to further enhance his fragile ego, makes a beeline for the limelight beginning a crusade to become the next Howard Webb with his unfathomably terrible calls, NUFC being the chance for his moment.

    Action has to be taken against him. People calling for him to be demoted to the conference, a level he’s familiar with apparently, but I wouldn’t wish him on any league. Outright suspension from football should be the call.

    We had a whole season’s worth of calls against us in 90mins.

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  • Belfast

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #21

    He’ll be on gardening leave for a few weeks. Although the linesman was to blame for the Shelvey decision everything else was down to him and he had a mare.

    I wonder how the referee assessor scored it lol

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  • lochinvar

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #22

    The FA are inept.
    The Refs are angling for TMO’s like rugby.
    They can then become mini celebrities in their own right and demand more money.
    After that they can appear on Strictly Come Dancing and I’m a Celebrity

    Get me out of here

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  • Belfast

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #23

    There’s no way the linesman has seen that incident clearly like. He’s just seen Lansbury rolling around and guessed it.

    Common sense and the ref would have played on until the ball went out of play and booked them both or had a word.

    There was no common sense at all from the officials all night to be honest.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #24

    On a lighter note only Goromagpie won five points yesterday on the Rafa bingo and joins that exclusive list on five points, firebug666 on ten points and me on 75 points.

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  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #25

    If there was ever a case for match fixing this was it. We all know that ref’s make mistakes, it’s inevitable, but last night the ref didn’t even bother to hide his bias against Newcastle.

    Lansbury is a cheat, but even he could not compete at the level of cheating the referee reached.

    Martin & Lansbury, comedy gold double act, except there just not funny.

    👿

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  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #26

    Jail

    You little cheat, you said we were sharing those extra points 😀

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #27

    firebug666,
    Nope, keeping them all for myself. I read abfew different reports last night and it’s only the Chronicle that mentìons how bad the ref was, the mail and Guardian don’t even mention the disallowed goal.

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  • firebug666

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #28

    Jail

    I have been reading a lot on Newsnow, but nothing from the FA, It seem they allow referees to cheat as long as it’s against Newcastle.

    I have said for a while that the FA don’t like us, don’t know the reason why, but they do take every opportunity to make it difficult for us.

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  • lochinvar

    Dec 3, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #29

    Papers like The Guardian are just another prime example of fluffy Journos inept at work.
    If they can even be bothered to report football matches accurately what garbage are they serving up on political, health and economic subjects .
    Not even fit for the bottom of the parrots cage.

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  • Jib

    Dec 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #30

    ?

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  • booboo

    Dec 3, 2016 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #31

    this steve martin should not ever ref a game again !!! i still can not believe how u can ref a game like that !!! mourinho will had jumped him in the middle of the game…but from the gaffer to the players they controlled them self well because it was just to easy to rip his head off after his decisions i would have lost it !! lets win this league and never return

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