Newcastle Fans React On Twitter To Shelvey Ban

The result of the personal hearing for Jonjo Shelvey for his misconduct charge was not unexpected, since it’s rare for an FA charge to be overturned on appeal, although it has happened.

Newcastle fans have taken to Twitter to register their opinions on the punishment, but it’s really hard to comment oo much when we don’t know the details of what was allegedly said and what the evidence against Jonjo was.

Jonjo Shelvey – banned for 5 games

20 comments so far

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #1

    21Bobbybee // Dec 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM

    Dom, no, that was simply my bad. Henderson was trying to defend it apparently and they were discussing it him on talksport. Lack of concentration on my behalf. I hope I can be forgiven for such a Booboo. I’ll take a course on concentration, but refuse to pay a big fine! ?

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #2

    Reading the TOON statement – I don’t think the club are happy and I wouldn’t be surprised they appeal

  • Thump

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #3

    @Bobbybee: (from last) I agree he’s going to be a huge miss, but maybe this is a blessing in disguise. While his passing range has destroyed defences, I can’t help but feel that teams have cottoned on and t has hampered some results. Maybe a quick refresh is what’s needed.

  • toonincheek

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #4

    Here’s my t’pennyworth –

    There is a difference between being a racist and using
    racist language.
    I am NOT justifying racist language but, unfortunately,
    it is all too often the language used by the youth of today,
    without considering the implications.

    I applaud the FA’s moves to stamp down on racism and/or
    racism comments.

    IMO to punishment given to Shelvey is totally disproportionate
    to what would be given in a Court of Law (and that’s
    assuming the proof of guilt is established).

    I can understand the FA taking a hard line, especially if
    the comments had, or could have been, heard by the public.
    AFAIK this was NOT the case.

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #5

    Thump, where I sit in SJP we’ve been discussing for a while now about teams not marking Shelvey man to man, to try and negate his passing. I find it bizarre that teams haven’t even tried it to be honest. Or maybe they have and are just crap at it, who knows? 🙂 Imo when you have a player that can destroy a defence just with his passing, it’s just logical to try and prevent him from doing so. He clearly has far too much room in games to weave his magic, but hey, who are we to complain? Long may it last.

  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #6

    let’s be honest shelvey treads a thin line most matches. may be this is the wake up call he needs.

  • ash1001

    Dec 20, 2016 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #7

    I just wonder how much abuse Jonjo has suffered from and been overheard by others regarding his Alopecia problem, if he complained to the FA, wonder what there response would, probably ‘Tough -wear a wig’.
    It means nothing to be white and british now, and I am not a racist, but its fact.

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #8

    Toonincheek, like I said earlier, why even bring the Colour of a person’s skin into it, if you’re not intending to make a racist comment? You might mean to be racist, but to a black person it is racist, regardless of what you think yourself. In the eyes of the law, it’s how it’s viewed by those hearing it, not how you intend it to be. Taking my ex’s situation is a fine example. She was a bitch at times, even I agree on that, but calling her a black bitch is 100% racist. The word bitch was adequate. Adding the prefix black can only be viewed as racist in the mind of the person it’s aimed at, as well as those who hear it. There’s no need to even mention the colour if you aren’t being racist. You might not see it that way, because you don’t want to be viewed as racist, but like it or not, it is racist. Unless you refer to white people as white batches, why even bother to mention their colour? You’re sure many not viewing it from other people’s perspectives.

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #9

    Sure many? How does ‘simply’ not come out as simply, but as sure many? It’s meant to be a spellchecker ffs, not to change what you type completely. Nothing wrong with checking spelling, that’s a handy tool, but changing to random words that simply don’t make sense? So annoying. 🙂

  • toonincheek

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #10

    Bobbybee –

    I wasn’t trying to justify racist language, I was just pointing out
    that it is, all too often, the language used by the youth of today
    without considering the implications.

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #11

    Right, because calling someone baldy is just as offensive as calling someone the N word is it? I’m not racist but… is inevitably followed by a racist comment. Racism can come from all colours, but that doesn’t justify anything. Whatever Shelvey is accused of saying, I can fairly safely say it wasn’t a term of endearment. If he said it of course. Until we know what was said, we’ll never know, but you’re trying to defend the indefensible.

  • toonincheek

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #12

    bobbybee –
    What are your thoughts on the punishment?
    Reasonable in the circumstances? (and assuming the comment
    was NOT audible to the general public)?

    Supposing the “black bitch” comment you refer to was audible to
    a few people in the vicinity, would a £100,000 fine be reasonable?

  • giimps

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #13

    Surely this has to be heard by an impartial adjudicator, if (as is suspected by me at least), Jonjo has been convicted from the word of a team mate of the sopposed victim ( since the “victim” hardly speaks english) this would be laughed out of court.
    if you consider the noise levels inside grounds ,consider the disance between the victim and the witness from Shelvey and then consider the possible noise pollution being directed towards the pitch, its not inconceivable that someone from the crowd said something and the witness thought Shelvey had said it ( whatever it was) ,its also not inconceivable that only part of a statement was heard correctly and the witness made the rest up .
    If the evidence is flimsy and based on only one witness’s statement with no video or audio evidence ,we need to appeal, if however there is hard evidence of racist abuse (i highly doubt it) then we need to accept the 5 game ban……so its over to the fa to let us know what the evidence is thatthey have…….that is of course after they have explained why the witness didnt go to the ref there and then to report it ,if its bad enough to report after the gMe it would have been bad enough for the ref to deal with at the time……but i forgot, if the ref didnt see it he coulnt do anything, that is when the fa get involved and try and make some money by scapegoating players and coaches, surely it must be wrong for the fa to benefit financially from a system where they make all the rules, interprate situations where they gain and are in control of the officials on the field of play.
    I wonder if there is a graph with the correlation between how badly a referee officiates the game to how much in fines the fa make because of these decisions…how many times have the refs made obvious ricks, only for the affected manager to be fined for saying something afterwards, or gets sent off for saying something ?
    The whole system stinks, the sooner those old cretins that run football are replaced by people who want whats best for the sport and not their own coffers the better.
    Rant over ……soz

  • Bobbybee

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #14

    Toon, I think the youth of today are far more tolerant than us older folk. We were brought up in a racist world, so to some extent it’s understandable in older people. I find younger people, who were brought up not to be racist, are nowhere near as bad. Age doesn’t matter anyway. If you insult somebody and bring up their colour, it’s racist whether you intend it to be or not. That’s my point. Did Suarez not try that defence and fail? I don’t see how people can not get the point that it’s not how you see it, but how others view it? Strange how it’s only used as a derogatory term, not as a term of endearment.

  • jakesome

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #15


    “It means nothing to be white and british now”
    Whereas when we were oppressing people all over the globe it meant something…..

  • jakesome

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #16

    It means what you make it mean, the way you perceive others being treated should not make a difference

  • lochinvar

    Dec 20, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #17

    Nobody here knows what or wasn’t said and therein lies the problem. What was said to Shelvey when Anita – his team mate was sent off ? Anybody noticed that Anita is not of the same ethnicity as Shelvey ?
    Maybe Shelvey was defending Anita being abused by a Wolves player reacting to a tackle ? Maybe Shelvey or Anita were themselves abused by bad language ? Where was the linesman in all this ? ( can’t remember if he was on that side if the pitch ) Again we don’t know and unless the FA state otherwise I don’t think they do either . In a court all evidence is recorded and is available for scrutiny. About time the FA did the same.

  • custurd

    Dec 20, 2016 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #18

    It all seems a bit “he said/she said”: apparently, the player who was “abused” didn’t hear or understand, so he can’t have reported Shelvey. No, it was one of his teammates that blew the whistle. In a court of law, the case would be thrown out due to lack of evidence, but having made such a serious charge in the first place the F.A. were never likely to back down, and dished out a measley ban in an attempt to save face IMHO. If there really was any evidence of racial abuse, Shelvey would have been banned for months not games, and rightly so. Anyway, where is the line drawn? It’s perfectly okay for colored chaps to call each other “nigger” but if a white person does so then all hell breaks loose! It’s a crazy world we’re living in….

  • lesh

    Dec 20, 2016 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #19

    There’s one thing for sure and that’s that the player who reported the incident won’t be very popular with Jonjo and among his peers in the game. Tell tales are never popular and he’ll get his comeuppance at some for or another.

  • toonbrother

    Dec 20, 2016 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #20

    Saying Racist Sh*t and being a racist are the same thing in the eyes of the victim.
    In my opinion Newcastle need to take further action against him
    And send a message there’s no place for such behavior in this great club


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