Rafa – A Big Punishment To Lose A Great Player For Five Games


Rafa Benitez believes that Jonjo Shelvey made a mistake when he allegedly abused a Wolves player and was charged by the FA for misconduct and then this week lost his appeal against the charge and must now serve a five game ban and pay a £100K fine.

Jonjo is a challenge for Rafa as a coach, but there are definite signs that the former Liverpool player is more consistent this season and really wants to control these wayward tendencies on the pitch and he has no better teacher to do that than Rafa Benitez.

But there have been at least a couple of times where his indiscipline showed – the other obvious time was when he lashed out at Henri Lansbury, but that red card was quickly rescinded by the FA after the 2-1 defeat at Nottingham Forest.

Rafa Benitez and Jonjo Shelvey at QPR this season

We have a chance next Friday night to take Forest to the cleaners at St. James’ Park.

This is what Rafa has said in the Chronicle today about Jonjo Shelvey:

“As we’ve already said in our statement, we support him because for me it was a very confused situation.”

“The main thing is he knows that he has to be careful in the future and just concentrate on his football. We know we will not have him for the next five games and that’s it.”

“Strange things happen on the pitch and everyone is referring to this issue, but we continue to support him – we don’t support him in the way of the alleged language, but that he was making a mistake.”

“We know that maybe he made a mistake but what people say he said, maybe he didn’t say, so it is very confused.”  “What we have to do is move on and start thinking about the future.”

“We know what they said, we know what we said and how things have come out, but it is still very confused.”

“I have been playing football all my life, so to be there on the pitch with a lot of players, someone was hearing one thing, someone else something else, others, nothing at all.”

“He knows he made a mistake but at the same time we think it is a big punishment for him and for us.”  “That it’s we have to move on and start thinking about Sheffield.”

“He is a great player doing a great job for us.”  “He’s learning every week and I hope he will be more mature after all these things.”

“We saw again at Nottingham Forest that there was a little problem, but after the red card against Forest was rescinded.”

“Sometimes we don’t understand why things happen but we have to concentrate on our football.”

“I will tell you after five matches whether we will miss him.”  “We have enough options.”

“Obviously it will be different, we cannot hide this, but we have options and we still have other good players.”

“We can manage.”

Those are excellent words from Rafa Benitez – down to earth – explaining the situation and some communication directly to Shelvey about the future.

Rafa’s right that Shelvey is a great player who can get even better if he has a little more discipline.

There are options for Newcastle with Jonjo out and the likely one is that local lad Jack Colback comes in and he’s very rarely let the side down when he’s been asked to do a specific job for Newcastle.

Vurnon Anita can play there as can Mo Diame and it could be a chance for the young and talented Isaac Hayden to be given a free role in the middle of the park.

We’ll know more after the game against Sheffield Wednesday on Monday night, but we must get all 3 points in that game in front of another sell-out crowd of over 52,000.

Amazing.



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22 comments so far

  • mad-serb

    Dec 23, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #1

    So basically he did say something maybe not what they said he said. Its like that game where you repeat something to the person next to you and he repeats it to the next person and most of the time what the person said and what comes out on the other side is completely different.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #2

    Fat Sham does a poo on Pards.
    Ho ho ho!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 23, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #3

    Anita should get the nod first from me, he has been playing consistently well and will have more movement in front of him to give more options for a pass. Rather than the one offs he was trying to hit last season. That allows Yedlin to make RB his own too and makes a buying a replacement less necessary, especially as we already have another three options to partner Hayden.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Dec 23, 2016 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #4

    ….or four, five, six options depending on who your talking to.

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  • toonincheek

    Dec 23, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #5

    Lindis –

    Tend to agree.
    The position needs some intelligence and experience.
    Anita has more (well, different) of that than Hayden

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  • lochinvar

    Dec 23, 2016 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #6

    Who said what to who
    Wolves players say one thing and the FA says differently
    Papers say Ashley might sell to an overseas consortium

    Sounds like Chinese whispers to me

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  • mad-serb

    Dec 23, 2016 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #7

    Reading the FA transcript of the hearing is a joke. So basicly when someone calls me English something I have a case as well.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 23, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #8

    Spoof,
    From previous, yes I’m very happy that Pardew has finally been found out from people outside of the North East. I work with a wide range of different supporters who only seem to remember that great first season he had with us and then with Palace and the fact he reached an FA cup final. What they don’t realise is that we had to put up with the most mind numbing football and every unwanted record. Now it is public knowledge that he has been given full control of a Palace team where he has brought in his own players and the press have now published his damning statistics, we had to rely on the sack padew rabble crew/mob etc to do that. So yes I do feel vindicated now the rest of the country can see his god awful stats laid bare.

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  • toonbrother

    Dec 23, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #9

    ——————————————————–
    ““Strange things happen on the pitch and everyone is referring to this issue, but we continue to support him – we don’t support him in the way of the alleged language, but that he was making a mistake.”

    “We know that maybe he made a mistake but what people say he said, maybe he didn’t say, so it is very confused.” “What we have to do is move on and start thinking about the future.”

    “We know what they said, we know what we said and how things have come out, but it is still very confused.”
    ——————————————————–

    I love Rafa but this makes no sense
    Real leadership lie in confronting wrongdoing however unpleasant and calling it out boldy.
    Not all this mealy mouthed wiffle waffle.
    He made a mistake yes. Condemn his actions, accept the punishment and sanction him (or at least warn him publicly) to make sure he doesnt make such a”mistake” ever again.Simple

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  • mad-serb

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #10

    For those who would to read it here is the link hope I copied it right on my phone.

    https://t.co/aTlTQhi48A

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #11

    And Mag52,
    Will you stop posting like you are the only one with the intelligence to understand that it was Ashley calling the shots and was the chief culprit in the whole sorry mess, do you not think that the sackpardew rabble etc knew this too. Pardew done his very best to dampen our expectations and was instrumental in the quest for mind numbing mediocrity that Mashley and Churnley desired. Who did Pardew dedicate his win over Chelsea to after the victory effectively stopped the protests after thousands of flyers had been handed out after not a penny had been spent in the summer. He didn’t thank the fans for turning up in their tens of thousands he thanked his boss despite being hung out to dry that summer. A henious snake more than willing to throw cups and never achieve EL again.

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  • JAMSHA

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #12

    i see tiote will take shelvys place , so its hayden – tiote in center.. hayden attacking an tiote defending

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #13

    I think Anita will slot in to Shelveys role until a replacement is bought, he was supposed to be Cabayes replacement afterall.

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #14

    “West Ham are planning a £6m bid for 34-year-old former striker Jermain Defoe according to the Daily Telegraph.”

    Don’t tell Moyes!

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  • dcdick

    Dec 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #15

    After reading the FA’s judgement it leaves little else for Shelvey to do apart from serve his punishment with as good a grace as he can manage

    Mitro especially & Gayle to a lesser extent where not good enough witnesses for the defence to have enough impact to affect the original decision.

    There’s more to this than meets the eye as they say….

    Since when has the word “Arab” been a racial insult ?

    There was certainly insulting language used by Shelvey as he ranted at the Wolves player, but to hang on it a racist tag & increase the punishment because of the word Arab is shameful

    This still smells

    D.

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  • Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #16

    Tevez on £610 grand week for a no one team in china don’t spend it all in at once eh maybe hi could spend it on a new face ?

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  • JamesToon

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #17

    Rafa says he only wants top european players/prem players in january, which means i think we’ll be in for a quiet window with 1 or 2 loans poss.

    Morgan Schneiderlin has got to be a candidate for the summer (doubt he’ll come in the championship) hes a class above anyone, a complete midfielder imo. Insigne could definitely see being a possibility, as well as Koulibay

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  • Jib

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #18

    We need Colback back up to speed.

    If you watch the video of Anita’s red card nobody made a card gesture to the ref and Shelvey was way out of earshot of Dominic Iorfa who is clearly the instigator of the whole bag of shite.

    I’m sure there was a fair amount of sledging going on and insults were being traded freely throughout the game.

    The problem is if there’s someone involved from a non-white ethnic background they will always play the race card.

    Shelvey’s been stitched up , but biting the bullet and moving on is the right thing to do , and just say nothing to a member of the opposition in the future.

    Did they not even look at a vid of the game at the hearing !!!!

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  • andrew84

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #19

    The likes of Jib and Mag52 having the balls to condemn the SackPardew crowd/rabble/vermin despite the fact that there was no sign of things changing just prior to the protests happening…just more of the same mind crushing mediocrity. Less than 2 years later and we now have a world class manager (not Head Coach) in charge, MA is finally spending money (albeit too late to save us last season)…despite those holier than thou individuals dismissively lecturing people on how things would never change however much we protested.

    And now things have changed, yet Jib and Mag52 have the cheek to insinuate that the Pardew Out contingent still need defending. Hilarious.

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  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #20

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see

    _________Diame_____Hayden
    ______________Perez

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  • Chancel My MBembaship

    Dec 23, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #21

    Ed – please stop mentioning Horgan. He signed for Preston on a free and can’t sign for another club until next season. A few people have tried telling you this but you seem to just be ignoring them.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Dec 23, 2016 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #22

    It’s a bit confusing if a Morrocan is actually an Arab but here goes.
    I hoe this is of no offence to non- Arabic Morrocans.

    Do Moroccans consider themselves Arabs?
    5 ANSWERS
    Sara Kabous
    Sara Kabous, Moroccan living in Casablanca
    Written Sep 22, 2015
    It depends on the person you ask. Some would say they are 100% arab, some others would say they are 100% amazigh.
    According to the constitution, Morocco is an african, arab, amazigh and muslim country. The genetic reality is that moroccans ( as well as other north africans) have a mix of arab, amazigh and african origins.

    Moroccan genetics, wikipedia
    “Recent studies make clear no significant genetic differences exist between Arabic and non-Arabic speaking populations, The human leukocyte antigen HLA DNA data suggest that most Moroccans are of a Berber origin and that Arabs who invaded North Africa and Spain in the 7th century did not substantially contribute to the gene pool.”

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