Compromise Deal Could See Townsend Move To Newcastle


The Guardian is reporting that Crystal Palace want their money back on Andros Townsend this month, but that Newcastle are now unwilling to spend big money this month while they are still in the Championship.

That seems to be change in direction coming from owner Mike Ashley, so Rafa Benitez is trying to do loan deals but it’s stopping the deal for Andros Townsend being completed and the winger could certainly help us get promoted.

Palace would like the money up front so manager Sam Allardyce can bring in new players but Palace – like most Premier League clubs –  are paying for Townsend through installment payments  with the Guardian reporting the next installment is due to Newcastle for £3M this month.

Andros Townsend and Rafa Benitez

Depending on how much Palace still owe Newcastle of the £13M fee Newcastle could offer some financial incentives to Palace.

Such as not to require any more installments until the summer and then Newcastle could pay back to Palace £13M (if that’s the fee agreed) minus however much Palace have not paid of the £13M they agreed to pay Newcastle for Andros last summer.

That would help Crystal Palace keep some money they would have normally had to lose this month and that could therefore help them bring in some players in January, although they wouldn’t get as much as if they sold Townsend for cash up front this month.

One key in the negotiations is that Andros is now said to be very keen to rejoin Rafa Benitez at Newcastle and that will only help us do a deal with Crystal Palace for the 25 year-old winger.

Those are some of the financials Newcastle could negotiate this month to get Andros on loan for the rest of the season, with the option or even obligation to buy him in the summer.

Newcastle would also have to pay a loan fee to Crystal Palace for the half season or so that Townsend would be at Newcastle this season.

Newcastle pay for their deals up front in cool cash so they usually can get a better deal because they do that.

Other clubs still buy players via installment payments, which is something Newcastle used to do a lot of under former Chairman Freddie Shepherd.

It would be great if we can get Andros to Newcastle – soon.

Comments welcome.



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82 comments so far

  • TudorCrisps

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #1

    Wouldn’t drop Ritchie for Townsend the form he is in, or gouf but would still sign him for the bench

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #2

    manxpie,
    But he has stopped them conceding four and five quite regularly.
    On Sammi, maybe shite is harsh, not very good is probably fairer.

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #3

    Interesting to see if we do sign players in this window.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #4

    Tudor,
    Would love to see a signing in, do you think we could wait until next season and get a proper LW, or could we have Ritchie, Townsend and a proper LW, that would be a very healthy situation.

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  • TudorCrisps

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Jail

    I’d love the back up of Townsend but think we could wait till the summer for a really good LW with atsu coming back soon mate

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #6

    Tudor,
    I’m not sure Atsu will be here in the PL so Ritchie, Gouff, Townsend and dare I say Sammi competing for the wings can’t be too shabby.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #7

    I mean while we’re in the Championship, I’ll be disappointed if Gouffran and most certainly Sammi is still here next season when we go up.

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  • TudorCrisps

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #8

    Agree mate just can’t see much happening this window but I think we have enough to get up and then start getting decent players in the summer, would love a decent LWB though

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  • Legolas

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #9

    Jail,

    Would you not offer Gouffran a one year extension. As a squad player I mean. Think I would. Could cover wings and up top.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #10

    On Sammi,
    Middlesborough did not want him despite his wonder goal, he then featured pretty much solely from the bench for a poor Cardiff side, he’s been getting rave reviews at league one Bolton, it’s not meant to work like that, it’s meant to work the other way round, he looked half decent against league one opposition today when he should have looked special.

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  • Steak and Kidney Pie

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:34 PM

    Comment #11

    I’d be prepared to keep Gouf for sure. The squad needs about 4 quality first 11 players to be a top half proposition. You only need 4-6 instrumental components in a side, and also of course the capable working parts that provide the appropriate depth and balance to round out a squad of 22-4. Gouffran has always been capable of being part of a well constructed squad.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #12

    Legolas,
    From.a selfish point of view yes, but I think a ligue 1 club or Championship club will offer him more so I hope we let him go and don’t tempt him with a two year deal.

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  • Steak and Kidney Pie

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #13

    Sammi hasn’t been able to develop appropriately. Had he come through the ranks at Middlesborough or Cardiff he’d have done more in their first teams. He’s been bouncing between the Newcastle reserves and first team, a massive difference in level, and sent on loan with high expectations that were hard to fulfil. He’d surely have benefited more from a set of smoother transitions at a level he was more capable of. It’s hard for young players to come through at Newcastle, and Sammi probably never quite capable anyway of making the very good and demanding level required of a first team player here. Doesn’t make him a poor player.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #14

    Watching MoTD,
    That’ll pee those ‘orrible smoggies right off AC scoring those goals today. If he’d stayed fit he’d have been a PL legend.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #15

    Jimmy,
    You can’t guess at that, how do you know if he’d not been on loan that he’d get more games, surely you should shine at a lesser club, apart from that one wonder goal he didn’t at Boro, then couldn’t at Cardiff, is it a coincidence Colback, Dummet and Gouffran look so much better in a lowe division.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #16

    This is a lot of shite in my opinion. I was under the impression that a release clause is money up front ? But if this story is true you can meet the release clause and then pay it like the catalogue book.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #17

    This is a lot of shite in my opinion. I was under the impression that a release clause is money up front ? But if this story is true you can meet the release clause and then pay it like the catalogue book.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #18

    And why should they get the catalogue book option but we have to pay now ?? 🙂

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  • Belfast

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #19

    Tudor Townsend ain’t gonna sign to sit on the bench like. He’s in ahead of Gouffran all day long and Gourfann is a late sub most games. Well for me anyway.

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  • lesh

    Jan 21, 2017 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #20

    From the BBC

    Real Madrid are ready to eclipse any offers that are made for Tottenham playmaker Dele Alli, 20, this summer. (Express)

    And to think that Ashley missed out because of our fannying. What price economy Mr Ashley?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #21

    Looked like a decent match based on those highlights. Gayle has been on fire this season, but it is interesting that the few times we’ve started with a bigger man up front we have more often put in a more threatening attacking performance. Two 6-0’s, both with Mitro, and two 4-0’s one Gayle, one Murphy.

    An interesting bench selected today, was Colback injured? 4 defenders (although it could be argued Lazaar is more than that) plus a talented kid and a player who has often been found wanting. Do we have that many injuries/players at AFCON? 7 or 8 is it? It seems a lack of depth, but having Sterry, Hanley, Lazaar and Haidara all on the bench seems overkill.

    The squad is more than good enough to go up, but a lot of work needs doing in the summer or now to compete next level up.

    On Townsend, no thanks. He did do well for us, but he played for himself. He played for international recognition. There’s a reason a struggling side like Palace are happy to lose him. The same reason there were few takers last Jan. He just isn’t that good in a team, in a unit, or generally. He isn’t better than Ritchie, and he doesn’t like playing on the left… so, bench to bench? Not worth it.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #22

    lesh,
    Unlike “Iron Mike” as some tw@t called him, Spurs won’t sell yet and will offer him an extended deal to satisfy their own ambition before doing so.

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  • Steak and Kidney Pie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #23

    I think had he come through the ranks at a less demanding club he’d have been far better prepared to slot in well in their first teams and would have been likely to contribute more and found more consistency. Sammy was often been pitched in and out for us, a very big club in often turbulent situations, and sent out on loan with high expectations at a decent level he had not been prepared well enough to deliver on.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #24

    Jail,
    Legend is used a bit too freely nowadays….. Carroll ranked up there with Shearer, Bergkamp, Henry…. He’d have been a good striker, legend?? Not for me.

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  • TudorCrisps

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #25

    Belfast that’s fair do’s mate, gouf has been exceptional this season and I can’t see Townsend playing on the left or Ritchie for that matter and upsetting the apple cart, Townsend prefers the right so he can cut inside

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  • Belfast

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #26

    Lesh

    Jail’s favourite website footymob is more reliable than the Express. I actually thought it was one of those dodgy click bait websites on newsnow until someone on here informed me it’s actually the real Express newspaper.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #27

    Lilongwe,
    You said that about him last time we signed him, I’m certainly not his biggest fan but think he might be just what we need, maybe Rafa understands what you’ve just said though and that’s why we want him on loan in case he thinks he has it made again and gives up.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #28

    Belfast,
    A release clause is just an amount generally. The details of when the amount is paid is still very much up for negotiation, but it wouldn’t involve the appearance clauses, or things like that. It would be just a set structured payment deal.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #29

    Jail,
    Yeah, I did. He did well for himself last time, which did benefit us. He hadn’t done as well before and hasn’t since. Maybe he likes the North East. Maybe he was playing for an international spot and a move should we go down. I thought we got a better option getting Ritchie and shipping him out. Still do.

    Given the price quoted for a player that isn’t good enough to nail down his favourite/best position ahead of our current option, surely we wait or use the obey in a more beneficial area.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:11 AM

    Comment #30

    money, not obey

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #31

    Jimmy,
    Sorry, not having it, so if he had of started somewhere shite he would have come good? If you’re good you’re good, certain players over the years have gone under the radar, six foot nine, Geordies with a surname like Ameobi do not go under the radar.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #32

    Non NUFC note, very happy to see Clement getting a cracking result for the Swans. Didn’t deserve the sack at Derby, and I hope he keeps them up.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #33

    Lilongwe,
    How do we know that he isn’t factoring in a non promotion get out clause, who knows what goes on in their heads.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #34

    There were better players in the youth set up than Sammi. Some suffered injuries, some didn’t get the opportunities that Sammi got. Sammi has been given a better shot than a lot of youngsters get, and has only done it in flashes.

    Was he fantastic at Bolton? 2 goals and 1 assist in 20 league 1 appearances at the age of 24…

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  • Steak and Kidney Pie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #35

    No, not shite Jail. At a club that would have given him a smoother transition to their first team. Middlesborough for example.

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  • Steak and Kidney Pie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #36

    Anyway, he got his shot at Newcastle and I’m sure he wouldn’t have had it any other way.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:21 AM

    Comment #37

    Ritchie has definitely raised his game recently. I definitely have him as future central midfielder, perhaps the Townsend signing could see him pushed inside.
    On the game; Darlow’s recovery was the pivotal point in the match. They were playing well and if they had taken the lead at that point I think we would have struggled to get something out of the game.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #38

    Lilongwe,
    Very bizarre why he got the sack there, must have been a fall out rather than results driven.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #39

    Jail,
    Sorry? If he is factoring in that then why would we want him anyway. He clearly doesn’t want to be here, and there is hardly a clamour for his signature. He had the best few months of his career with us. He chose to leave, and has served up to Palace the same garbage he did before us. Back up to Ritchie at less than half the mentioned fee, and half his current wages, fine. But £13million is the price quoted for Brady who plays on the left. I know who I’d rather have.

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  • lesh

    Jan 22, 2017 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #40

    Just watched the highlights on 5 and Perez’s goal looked like he used his right upper arm to score?

    Any views from anyone who was at the match?

    But then again, maybe I need a visit to Specsavers!

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