Manager Feels Sorry For The Fans – But We Paid For Mistakes

Rafa Benitez has issued an apology to fans for the debacle on Saturday in that second half when we looked absolutely pathetic and paid for it by conceding three goals and losing 3-0 to a side that was in League Two only last season.

Rafa has come in for some criticism over the weekend especially from Alan Shearer who blasted the manager for playing a  weakened side against Oxford and Alan said Rafa was letting the fans down by doing that.

These are the fans who suffer with fielding weak sides

Rafa has again talked about the defeat on Saturday – another pathetic loss in the FA Cup to a lower league side – as reported in the Shields Gazette:

“When you lose, the first people you feel sorry for are your fans, especially when you play away.”

“They are really good with the team. I said before that we had to come here and give everything, and if you make mistakes, you pay for them.”

“As I said before, balance is the key,” “In a team, you need experience and you need young players along with that.”

“You have to have a good mix. “If you have problems, then it is normally the experienced players that can make a difference.”

“These kind of games show you exactly what you need.”

It was an unexpected loss on Saturday with over 75% in our poll expecting us to win the game and advance to the 5th round for the first time since 2006.

But it turned out to be another embarrassment in the FA Cup and another shocking loss we have suffered this season.

That’s now the 9th defeat we have suffered this season.

Comments welcome.

40 comments so far

  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed’s turning into a bit of a drama Queen with this click bait rubbish

  • toontaff2

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #2

    Tell me why I don’t like Mondays?
    ED’s caught the doom and gloom bug from the post defeat drama Queens!
    Thankfully we were not playing Lincoln or Sutton!

  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #3

    a few on here including Ed should take note of this post,,,,,,

    one fine day // Jan 30, 2017 at 7:44 AM

    29one fine day // Jan 30, 2017 at 7:39 AM

    Seems there’s nothing like a defeat to bring a few loons up to the top of the pond.
    Good result on Wednesday they will be back under the rocks.
    A few here seem to have wiped the previous 8 years from memory .
    Pretty sure it it wasn’t in middle of afcon and gayle wasn’t injured then we may have put out a stronger team .
    But we could have played maybe 4 of our ” big ” players , picked up injuries and then got arsenal away in the next round and put our auto promotion spot at risk.
    Start of the season most said the only thing that mattered was getting out of this league and despite the best efforts of sub standard referee’s,pathetic F.A doing its best to derail us , we are still in fact on target .
    Ash your opinion but in my book Rafa is only just starting so say the shine is wearing off…? Struggle to understand your reasoning .

  • toontaff2

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #4

    How many of these so-called targets have we even been linked with? How many available targets are even an upgrade on current players?
    Apparently Blunderland are after Barrow.
    Does a signing like Barrow make any sense for us?
    Townsend would be a bonus, but not essential.
    McCarthy the same.
    But neither for above 10million. Better as loans.

  • Ian Toon

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:20 AM

    Comment #5

    I discount almost everything that armchair fans like expat and Tuff have to say about football and NUFC. Contrast Bobby bee who is everything that they are not when it comes to being a passionate follower of what really matters to the fans of our club. He watches and talks to our supporters at games. This blog used to be full of contributions from fans with a sound knowledge and understanding of the toon army. It can’t just be because mr tuff and ex are Seniors and out of touch that they insult the serious travelling toon army by their casual dismissal of Saturday’s game. A true fan hurts from such a performance. There was not a word from them of the travelling toon fans just a high ground approach to what they see as so called fans. This was not Hereford and we do want to be promoted – that is understood. None of us thought we would turn out a strong team but neither did we anticipate such an abject performance. It leaves a bitter taste but I only wish I could be at SJP on Wednesday.

    Benitez rightly said we win as a squad, we lose as a squad,” he said. “You make a mistake, you pay for it. The first thing you feel sorry for is the fans.” The majority of the toon army were packed in the away section and were heavily critical of Benitez’s prioritising but we understood, What concerned me was just how abject those players that Benítez brought in were. Such little promise and delivery..

    We really don’t need bloggers to tell us that all that matters is promotion. I don’t mind going out of the Cup it’s just the manner that we did it. Can’t those two clowns see that! Benitez can and he looked very unhappy as our demise unfolded.

    We made chances and after three critical saves including a penalty, their goalkeeper Eastwood was man of the match. But it was the haplessness of our defending that was of real concern . Three times we were found wanting by Oxford from corners.

  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #6

    Just watch Wolves after their great win at Anfield when they are away to Barnsley tomorrow night.

    Dangerous game Paul Lambert is playing – they are just 7 points from a relegation place.

  • toontaff2

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:22 AM

    Comment #7

    Well said OFD, via Hibbitt.
    Drama Queens ooooooooooootttttttttttttttttttttt!
    Take a chill pill!

  • lochinvar

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #8

    If Rafa has any frustrations with the transfer ?indow it can only be
    because there’s some sort of playground stand off between Ashley and Allardyce strutting their stuff on the Townsend/Mwemba deal and that’s enough to put you off your breakfast. Whether or not this is fuelled by the soap opera called “Transfer deadline day ” remains to be seen.
    We’re linked with so many players because we are a significant club and with a wealthy owner so that’s just what the hacks like.

    Maybe with Diame back and Atsu eventually Rafa actually believes that the core squad of about 15 is good enough – others I feel are more cautious and feel that a couple more senior pros wouldn’t go amiss – I tend to agree.

  • toontaff2

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #9

    We had flappy in goal.
    We had Haidara, Jesus and Good in defence- all out with long term issues.
    Hanley played well against Birmingham, but was criticised here against Oxford.
    Not sure it was really a surprise they defended poorly.

  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:30 AM

    Comment #10

    Ed is of an era when the FA cup meant something.

    Very few televised game in those days so folk watched it avidly.

    I remember when Cup weekend was pretty special – getting up on Saturday morning to watch the interviews at the team hotels – then the build up.

    Me mam used to say it was the best Saturday to go shopping , everywhere was so quiet.

    It’s now so devalued !

    “The old order changeth yielding place to new” – Tennyson (he supported Ipswich Town)

  • jimmysmith

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #11

    I suppose 8 perhaps 9 of that side would get into the Oxford starting 11. It was a side selected to win, and also one selected to maximise our chances of gaining maximum points in the critical games at home to QPR and Derby. Mitro buries even one of those chances as he really should have and we are odds on to go on and win it. That’s football. Roll on Wednesday night. Very ordinary defending for the goals though. Rafa and his coaches do need to take the responsibility for that. Shouldn’t happen.

  • Mag52

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #12


    That’ll be Shearer as a drama queen then I suppose ?

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #13

    Toontaff2, hibbit
    Getting the point when if we loose this place seems to have Samaritans on speed dial.
    I recall ed on almost the same levels of depression after the end of last season as we waited for the puff of white smoke coming up from the top of the milburn stand to tell us Rafa was staying.
    He was you yo like in mood swings ,mainly listening to shearer again it seems .
    Rafa , God knows why , stayed to get us out the sh@t so let’s not forget that .

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #14

    Mag 52 ,
    Loved him as a player but shearer needs to loose this chip on his shoulder .
    Not sure what his issue is .
    he could be the bigger guy and for once be constructive and at least offer RAFA so help with mitro. For example . Show him some “craft” to help him develop.
    But no he’d rather chip away from his bc couch with his other failed manager pundits .

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #15

    Jib @10
    I think when they also stopped the cup winners cup (simple knock out)and piled everyone into the awful Europa league was another nail in the FA cup coffin.
    As a kid I could name every team who played the final from 1970 to 1990 as it was still special.
    Now I struggle to recall who won it last year .
    Sad as we all loved watched the third round draw to see what we were getting for Christmas

  • Moonraker15

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #16

    Agree re fa cup importance. As an oldie of that generation when it was more high profile than the league championship, cup final day was my favourite day.
    Now it’s a waste of time and the rot started when Fergie didn’t even enter Man U and Arsenal started playing the kids.
    Very sad but you would always put out your strongest team in the old days.
    Realistically now I’d be happy with promotion and have a go at the cup next year if we are in the prem!

  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #17

    mag 52
    no mate Ed with his click bait headlines

    On Shearer he has an axe to grind rightly or wrongly he takes every opportunity !!

  • lesh

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #18

    I’ve said it before but if the window closes without the signings Rafa’s said to want, then it could show that Ashley’s setting Rafa up to fail on promotion.

    Yup, mad as it might seem that Ashley would forego the big prize because his ambitions don’t match Rafa’s hunger to make Newcastle United successful. Perhaps Rafa’s one who wants to do things his way whereas Ashley doesn’t go along with some of Rafa’s buys being more focused on player resale value rather than the greater benefits of success.

    I really hope I’m wrong but could promotion in his first full season be included in Rafa’s contract and a condition for its continuity?

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #19

    Was suprised Elliot wasn’t given a run out as heard he has been doing well with kids .
    Think we have seen the last of sels to be honest unless he goes on loan and does something incredible.
    With the defence we had on Saturday without lascalles vocals it was crying out for elliot to be commanding them especialy at set pieces

  • giimps

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #20

    I wonder how many times that assembled back 4 and keeper have played together……not many at all i would guess…….very difficult to gel as a unit during a game when not one of yous has played with anyone else and in front of dracula.
    It was a huge risk in my view, one which may well be a blessing in disguise but Rafa will in all likelyhood be seething we couldnt at least get past Oxford.
    Personally, i am disappointed we went out with so little fight, gutted for the fans who went but relieved no-one was injured and looking forward to going to watch us vs Qpr and Derby this week!!!
    I am beginning to think wel struggle to get players in as the players we want are either unavailable or way overpriced for what they are… rather walk away from a bad deal and keep my powder dry till we are more attractive in the summer than blow some of our budget now.
    Imho, the only position we struggle with is creative midfield (shelveys cover) but even though he was out for 5 games ,were still 6 points clear of 3rd with a game in hand over them and 2 points off top, Atsu, Diame and Mbemba will be back soon, as will Gayle and possibly Aarons by the end of the season and dont forget super sameobito rip the league up…….its definitely not all doom and gloom (but i still would like reinforcements brought in)

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Lesh ,
    That is mad mate .
    Surely Ashley being the purely business man he is can see he is better off getting us up and then selling us if he doesn’t want to inject the cash Rafa undoubtably needs to get us into the top half .
    Not just that but if he try’s his tricks again wouldn’t he be setting himself up for another contractile dismissal case again ala Keegan ?
    Rafa strikes me as a lot more savvy sinless wise than the more emotion driven Keegan .
    What was netted out and put down in his contract over those two weeks last May would be pretty interesting

  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #22

    Sunderland set to sign Bryan Oviedo and Darron Gibson from Everton. Medicals today.

    Moyes is turning the Mackems into Toffees Mk.ll

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #23

    Contractile .. Constructive dismissal

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #24


    We all know you’re a very obvious and not subtle troll, but it is amazing how you only crawl out from under your rock should we occasionally lose and yet we hear no appreciation or recognition from you for being top or second virtually all campaign and still top scorers.

    It’s as if you’d almost be sad to see us go up to vindicate your creepy hatred of Rafa.

    You, Welsh, posada, hitman and gorgon seem to thrive on endless misery and trying to bring everyone down. Very sad really.

  • one fine day

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #25

    Well like all good toffee once they drop they will stick to the floor …….. I’ ll get me coat ,

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #26

    I don’t buy the idea that you can’t realistically go for the fa cup and win promotion. If it’s all about promotion this year, it will be all about the vital importance of avoiding the drop next year. And if we ever started doing well in the Premier, it would be all about getting a Champions League spot.

    As for Rafa not wishing to buy players who won’t improve the team, Jesus and Lazaar are two who immediately come to mind.

    As for Mitro, his fans keep saying he’s only 21 and he’s done this, that and the other. Why is 21 an excuse? When he was younger, he was obviously a promising talent. But loads of youngsters fail to live up to the promise. Whether it’s the money or the hype, they can’t handle or become “big time”. We dodged a hell of an expensive bullet when we missed out on Berahino. What was Carr thinking about offering that sort of money?

  • expatmag

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #27


    I see you are up to your old tricks again. You are such a goose…….lol……the village idiot of the blog…

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #28

    When I first saw Mitro, I thought he was lumbering and overweight. Since then, he’s gone up and down through many different stages of too heavy. And for a heavy”hard” lad, he gets bullied too easily. The rest of his game is bang average.

  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #29

    Everybody is entitled to an opinion. Slagging other fans off for that opinion is not ok. If you disagree with that opinion fair enough.

    Of the 2 possible safc signings from everton I’d say oviedo is a good option. Gibson has a lot to prove. If they get barrow then that’s another with a lot to prove. Sunderland have a mountain to climb to stay up.

    I hope we get at least 2 quality signings as I fear we will lose rafa in the summer if Ashley doesn’t back him now. He wants to win things not accept mediocrity.

  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #30

    B and b. I agree we should be able to fight on 2 fronts but rafa is right we are missing the quality to do it.

    I’m yet to see Ashley has changed and I’d willing to invest to win rather than try and stay in / reach the premier league. In fact unless we sign players today he’s confirming he hasn’t and is gambling in us having enough to go up.

  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #31

    Lesh @18 sorry mate but that makes no sense at all Ashley being the hard nosed businessman he is will want the prem the rewards to great don’t think he would deliberately risk not getting there even looking at NUFC as just an item of stock against its sale value the prem represents the best rewards in any sale
    If we go up i expect the club to sold to the highest bidder asp

  • lochinvar

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #32

    The Chinese have offered Rooney a personal deal worth £140 million and Colleen has told him to take the deal, wonder why ?

    Point is that with that sort of money being offered to a single player you get easily pick up a whole bargain basement club like Pounderland and if Ashley wants to sell a Premier League Club then he can name his price and let’s not be surprised when he does.

  • toontaff2

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #33

    A club with our fanbase and Rafa as manager would certainly be a very good investment to wealthy owners!

  • giimps

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #34

    We need to be in the premier league to get the best deal from club sponsors and shirt sponsors etc, another wrong decision regarding shirt sponsorship will see the club lose out on millions again,.

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #35

    maybe the chinese don’t need to buy overseas clubs in high profile leagues like the premiership and la liga any more, now that their own league is in full swing.

    Interesting how 3 of the bottom 4 premiership teams are US owned

  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #36

    Ian Holloway knows exactly what’s required on Wednesday night.

    Park the bus – frustrate the SJP faithful – they get on the teams back – the team withdraws into its shell – QPR nick a goal …………

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nnnoooooooooooo !!!!!!!


  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #37

    ashley wont mind were the money comes from as long as he gets his grubby little hands on it
    the sale will be all about money he wont have a scruples who he sells to it will be all about profit !!!!

  • magspuggy

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #38

    Our rested team will be ready for QPR and will have a point to prove.

    Time to grab more points and put the playoffs out of sight.

    Any gossip about gales injury yet ?

  • expatmag

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #39


    The chinese have apparently only last week made a major investment into Southampton.

    Might be the start of a more global approach to football ownership

  • Lindisfarne

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #40

    I suggested in my proposed team that the youngsters should be played, but in hindsight Oxford would be tougher opposition despite their standing. However, there were a few questions about Rafas selection and the teams style of play, that do warrant unease in regard to maintaining a winning mentality.


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