Why Newcastle Should Buy Townsend This Month


There’s an article in the Chronicle today that says Crystal Palace’s Andros Townsend has a release clause in his contract of £13M, which was the same amount that was in his contract when he was at Newcastle.

But the report is that Crystal Palace also want a loan fee for Andros since Newcastle want to get him in on loan with an option or obligation to buy in the summer.

If that’s the case and assuming the Chronicle report is accurate, then it would make good sense if Newcastle paid out the £13M fee in January and take a slight chance on Townsend, rather than having to pay an additional loan fee of maybe £2M or £3M for him.

Andros Townsend in action for Newcastle last season

We would be due a loan fee for Chancel Mbemba and his loan deal can still go ahead as part of the overall deal.

We’re not sure why there’s no money available this month for transfers, since Rafa and Lee Charnley made a profit of almost £31M last summer.

But it’s also true that Mike Ashley had to loan the club an extra £30M (approximately) this month to pay for the day-to-day running costs of the club this season, as our revenues have decreased.

But why would we want to pay a total of £15M or £16M to buy Andros in the summer after he’s spent a loan spell at Newcastle for the rest of the season?

It is a risk, yes, but surely Rafa has confidence that he can again get the very best out of Townsend, especially when the large majority of Newcastle fans want him back even though he left us in our time of need last June.

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But if this is what’s holding up the loan deal why don’t Newcastle bring Townsend on a straight transfer this month for £13M?

The trade-off is the loan fee versus the risk that Andros is not as good as he was for us last season.

Comments welcome.



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36 comments so far

  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #1

    WWSBRD

    if townsend had kept his form out of sight at the top !!
    that’s what’s so annoying

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  • lesh

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #2

    C’mon Ed, you’ve obviously overlooked the reality that most clubs pay for players in installments. That being so, the £31m profit you referred to is a paper profit – the cash not being there to spend this window.

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  • lesh

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #3

    WWSBRD (repost from previous)

    Sadly, one of the reasons why spend’s limited this window is that we’re still carrying some deadwood who were bought on the recommendation of Carr – some blessed by the so-called football board.

    If he’s around next season, Rafa’s got to have a major clear out of the rubbish. Maybe Carr could be given the responsibility of selling them as he seems to have more faith in their suitability for Newcastle United than Rafa

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #4

    lesh
    I agree there’s a lot of deadwood to shift but we got rid of a lot last summer so am sure we will be able to move them on one way or another. I’d say it was more to do with the transfer strategy than scouting though

    On topic am not buying Palace agreeing a minimum release clause that’s exactly what they paid for him just doesn’t make sense maybe a relegation clause

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  • giimps

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #5

    Do they not incorporate the loan fee into the future sale fee as in ,if we pay 2m loan fee it comes off the 13m fee when we buy him or if we dont buy him its only a loan fee of 2m?
    I would like him to come but if not we have enough to get up imho, Toonsend for me is insurance if we get him, we then have 4 or 5 players who can play either wing /centrally and have experience doing so under this manager.
    If not we probably have 3-4 , hardly risking anything but Toonsend for me would be before Gouffy and Atsu but behind Ritchie….Sameobi would be behind them all but can do a job if required

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #6

    hibbit
    Aye not wrong there but if he comes back surely he’s with us for the long term lad needs to find a home after all

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  • beermonkey

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #7

    lesh

    i saw mentioned on here a while ago about ashley lending the club 30 mill
    dont think i saw or read anything official

    could he have loaned the club the 30mill profit as we pay in full no installments
    this way the cash is there to spend when needed or wanted

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  • barkel

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #8

    Surely his value would have dropped considering his form and obviously he’s those 6months older. Can’t imagine having to pay a loan fee if we’re sending a player the other way, that doesn’t make much sense to me.

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  • lesh

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #9

    WWSBRD

    Aye, the transfer strategy, bless it.

    Surely Ashley must now see that the money to be made on sales is but a drop in the ocean compared to the money slushing around the Prem and the Champions League? But no, he seems to have Del Trotter-like view of footballers – commodities rather than component parts to be used in taking the Club to a higher level.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #10

    WWSBRD
    i think he got the wrong advice and made the wrong career decisions
    if does end up coming back at least he knows what written on the tin he needs a club to call home and by all accounts he needs to be loved
    Palace fans never took to him and they let him know it every game

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  • cyprus

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #11

    On previous articles Ed, was looking to find where Rafa said he’s disappointed with the infamous Hierarchy. I couldn’t.

    Ed, he’s very much part of the Hierarchy, in fact he’s near the top of the pyramid.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #12

    cyprus

    click bait mate every other story its how Ed keeps the blog going

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #13

    I was talking about football and using Referendum to make a footballing point. I will desist from making any political points. Suffice to say to Lesh I note you think the majority of British public are stupid and you are not.

    Football has become boring from top down through academy levels. Many teams are now playing with one up front and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see teams eschewing strikers altogether. The influence of the money also makes it boring. The FA Cup used to be fantastic but the industry (as it’s called) is destroying its magic. I’m no longer bothered about league placings. Nobody remembers who finished second in the Prem in any particular year. The excitement in the game for clubs like Newcastle belongs in the FA Cup. Take that away and what is there left?

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #14

    lesh
    Probably but in regards to CLOSE u have to heavily invest to get to it and there’s no guarantee even then Ashley has always wanted mid table PL but hopefully Rafa can push us to punch above our weight time will tell though

    hibbit
    I agree with that I think he loved playing here but head over heart ruled in the summer left on good terms though much more so than others

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #15

    There will have to be a seismic shift in football as happens from time to time as the game in this country is slowly dying. The industry is killing the goose that laid the golden egg. The change may come from China. I’m not sure that, if the star players gravitate there, it would necessarily be a bad thing.

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  • anthc

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #16

    Tbf rafas bought some duds too. Gamez, Hanley, lazaar selz.
    As for deadwood how many wish we snapped spuds rumoured 15 mill for perez?
    I’d let Anita, Gouffran, Colback, Hanley, selz, Elliott, Perez, Gamez, ameobi all leave without losing any sleep.

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  • cyprus

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #17

    Anthc,
    I’d lose a couple nights sleep if we released Ameobi.

    Hibbit
    Now I get it.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #18

    Blackley
    Wasn’t having a pop I just can’t be on talking politics on here or mention of it tbh just not the place for it imo

    In terms of us we aren’t going to build a team in the championship and if we don’t go up this season we are likely done for years. I want Newcastle to be fighting with top teams and we aren’t going to do that I’m this poor league so I can’t agree

    As for coming second I bet u remember when we came second I do I remember those players I also remember when we came 5th and playing in Europe that Benfica game Brugge coming over and shouting abuse at me before police horses waded in loved it

    I’d love the fa cup I truly would but I like watching us in a competitive league as well and having a brilliant manager with a ambitious plans so I can wait a year to see that then gamble it all on a cup we were never likely to get

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  • cyprus

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #19

    Actually I’ll be honest. Thought Ameobi had gone already.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #20

    Blackley

    just dont got your position from day one most folk in the ground wanted to be back in the prem one aim promotion nothing else matters
    if we dont make it this season it will only become harder to achieve the risks just aren’t worth it to much of a gamble

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  • giimps

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #21

    Sameobi had a Cameo vs Rotherham i think, he didnt do himself any harm either, not frightened to have the ball and attack, passed well and took players on succesfully……not a dud, neither is he Messi, he can do a job if required imho

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  • TyneMouth

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #22

    Saturday’s match was our seventh cup game this season, add on the 27 league games we have completed and the 19 games left to play and we will play 53 games this season!

    Of course it could be even more if we get involved in the dreaded playoffs, that doesn’t bare thinking about!

    Irrespective of the merits of the two competitions, there is only one priority this season, promotion! We were obliged to play the two matches that started our cup games, but in hindsight it’s a pity we didn’t draw Chelsea away in both competitions.

    The five meaningless cup games we played could prove costly in the run-in.

    Instead of being humiliated at Oxford on Saturday, the team could have been returning from a warm weather training week in Spain. Just a thought…

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #23

    anthc @16
    bit off a sweeping statement

    sky are saying Villa want Hanley this window would you take it ????

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #24

    Hibbitt
    I was one who wanted to be back in the Prem at all costs. However, I’m changing as the game is changing. Football needs a resurgence. Okay, so we go up and take our place in the bottom half. I’d rather have the excitement of winning the FA Cup.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #25

    WWSBRD
    No you weren’t having a pop. I agree. This is not the place for politics.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #26

    Blackley and Brownlie
    but there was no guarantee we would have win it !!

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #27

    won it…………sorry

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  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #28

    The FA cup draw live on BBC1 19.20
    😎

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  • giimps

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #29

    Tynemouth,
    I dont think wev ever won a game off the back of the warm weather “training camps” not under previous managers anywy.
    Id rather do what Rafa did ,maybe not the extent thT he did, i would have rested 5 -6 players, given Shelvey and Ritchie, possibly Murphy maybe an hour ,got our noses in front ,then rested them after we were winning (if thats the way it panned out).
    Its matterless talking about it now though, its over….time to move on to the next issue……Perez or Diame on Wednesday

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  • Belfast

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #30

    Ian from previous

    I believe Middlesbrough were told he wasn’t for sale at any price over the weekend.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #31

    Apparently the Townsend hold up is over a 2 mill loan fee and it being on top of the 13 mill fee in the summer…if that’s it then I hope we just pay it 2 mill is next to nothing in football and that’s not going to break the bank

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  • Jib

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #32

    There will be streams for Saturday’s game.

    “The return of the tuft”

    Poland , Scandinavia , Slovakia and Germany are all showing it

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #33

    If we don’t add class to the squad before deadline we may as well change our name to TWA. No not Trans World Airlines but Team without ambition.
    We get the same old sob story every January window – “We tried very hard to get decent players over the line but just failed at the final hurdle”. My message is invest now or quite possibly may the pric.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #34

    Tim Krul to Chelsea on loan !!
    have they got players we could use ????

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #35

    Not a bad call Hibbit! Loftus Cheek perhaps or even Batyshui (tongue in cheek)

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jan 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #36

    Like it JIB! Be interesting to see who Lincoln Sutton & Oxford get

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