£24M Deal Is Good For Newcastle – But Woefully Lags The Big Clubs

For many years now the Newcastle commercial revenues have trailed woefully behind that of other big clubs as we have struggled in the Premier League and finally were relegated for the second time in seven years last summer.

The last shirt deal (which is part of commercial revenues) was not well accepted at all by Newcastle fans and it was with Wonga and reported to be £24M over five years and that deal finally ran out this year.

The new deal that has been announced in with Chinese gaming company FUN88 and the Chronicle is reporting the deal is the best one we have ever had and it’s £24M over three years which is £8M/year compared with about £4.8M/year for the Wonga deal which previously was the best ever.



But this deals pales in comparison with the big clubs – Barcelona get £120M/year from Nike for their shirts and Manchester United struck a deal with Chevrolet for £75M/year and a full five years ago Arsenal did a deal for £30M/year with Fly Emirates.

So we are miles behind the top clubs but that could change quickly in three years if Rafa Benitez  takes us to  some success over the upcoming seasons.

That’s also likely  the reason Newcastle restricted this deal to only three years because with any success Newcastle should be able to get a much better deal in 2020.

The Newcastle deal is also with a Chinese company FUN88 and there is tremendous interest in China with football and the Premier League is expected to become massively popular in future years.

These are the revenues reported for our last financial year through last June 30th and commercial revenues are the lowest of the three segments that make up the total Newcastle revenues each year.

This is the segment that has to grow substantially with match day revenues not really able to increase very much in future years because of the limited attendances set at just over 52,000 at St. James’ Park for each home game.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

147 responses so far ↓


  • 1
    G
    May 17, 2017 at 2:47 PM

    Even though we have a good overseas following, we don’t sell anywhere near as many shirts as the teams regularly in the Champions League, so I guess the figure paid is fair enough. If we can win a couple of trophy’s over the next few years under Rafa, then hopefully the next sponsorship deal will be an absolute doozy!


  • 2
    Charlie in the Gallowgate
    May 17, 2017 at 3:21 PM

    Bit unfair comments – at the moment we are not in the same league as Barcelona, Manure Utd, arsenal et-al.

    We have got to crawl/walk before we can run – not that I was keen on Wonga and not keen on the sponsors being a betting company it is a step in the right direction.

    When the club can guarantee playing in the Premiership season after season getting into Europe and WINNING something and getting World wide coverage then we might be able to command a lot higher price for sponsorship


  • 3
    YoungMagpieFromBurnley
    May 17, 2017 at 3:24 PM

    YoungMagpieFromBurnley
    May 17, 2017
    I like Clark aswell Carl, but I prefer Lascelles. Granted Clark has been the better performer over the course of the season in ‘our’ eyes. According to other footballers Lascelles was better, and I’m going to view there’s opinions in a better light. We can’t forget Lascelles was playing through a bad injury for 4 months for the cause of our team, I never even noticed. Lascelles also has premier league experience and was our best performer during our late surge in the premier league the season before last. Clark in my eyes would be competition with Dummett in a back three on the left hand side; Although Rafa is probably going to stick with his preferred 4-2-3-1 formation. In which case I believe Clark will be third choice centre back next season. Granted Maguire or Wes Morgan sign. Lascelles is captain, and in my opinion he is going to stay it through next season, he’s earned it.


  • 4
    Charlie in the Gallowgate
    May 17, 2017 at 3:25 PM

    Further to my comments pity we cannot get a local sponsor – trouble is not very many large international companies in the area – Would be quite amusing if we had secured a mega deal with Nissan – gan doon with the mackems well


  • 5
    lesh
    May 17, 2017 at 3:32 PM

    Now if SD were to pay fair market rate for its advertising in SJP, that’d make a nice contribution to the Club’s finances.

    Come on Mikey boy, I’m sure the SD board’d agree.


  • 6
    jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 3:39 PM

    Youngmagpie

    Work in and around Leicester and know quite a few lads that go to the games.
    Wes Morgan has lost his pace mate and would be like signing Sol campbell again.

    No thanks


  • 7
    Ibizatoon
    May 17, 2017 at 3:42 PM

    Lesh…But that would mean Ashley actually WAS giving us an interest free loan!

    Novel idea.


  • 8
    geordiesteve520
    May 17, 2017 at 3:53 PM

    I never understood why we never thought about a deal with Siemens when it was based at Silverlink. They are a behemoth of a company, would’ve made a statement.


  • 9
    jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 4:05 PM

    Marseille winger Florian Thauvin and his entourage will meet with the club immediately after the season ends to open talks over a contract extension and a wage hike, according to Foot Mercato.
    The 24 year old has enjoyed the best season of his career to date, scoring 15 goals in Ligue 1.

    Have they actually signed him from us yet and paid the wonga ??


  • Ibizatoon
    May 17, 2017 at 4:11 PM

    jazzy…From what I understand (which is probably from here, so you know, take it with a pinch of salt) is that there was a number of games played clause, which he did, so therefore the transfer was automatic and he is an official Marseille player.

    Not sure about the payment mind. Given the clubs low opinion of him when he went out on loan and being worried about recouping funds from him, they may have agreed to stage payments, perhaps.


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 4:15 PM

    Ibiza

    Cheers bud.
    I see the Andy carroll stories are starting to circulate already. Since the story broke of Nufc having loads of cash to spend we have been linked with some right crap


  • Toonces
    May 17, 2017 at 4:17 PM

    Charlie – was curious about local potential sponsors. A few big companies in the North East I don’t know much about them other than the obvious (Nissan). Who knows down the road.

    …and what’s with Sunderland having the 2 biggest??!

    1. Nissan, Sunderland, £5.3B (2014 turnover)
    2. Arriva, Sunderland, £3.5B
    3. Go-Ahead, Newcastle, £3.2B
    4. Vertu, Gateshead, £2.1B
    5. Bellway, Newcastle, £1.5B
    6. Sage Group, Newcastle, £1.3B


  • Ibizatoon
    May 17, 2017 at 4:21 PM

    jazzy…No matter what league we’re in, what budget we have, no matter what, we will always be linked with every player known to man.

    Haven’t seen the Carroll one yet, but it wouldn’t be a transfer window without the possibility of big Andy coming home 🙂

    Toonces…I’d guess that property is less expensive in Sunderland than Newcastle? Might explain why they’re based there….it’s cheaper.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 4:28 PM

    The only reason we have a Chinese sponsor is because Ashley wants to sell SD in the east. Newcastle may have the sponsorship, but I doubt any bits of paper passing between the two companies will not have passed their eyes without seeing Sports Defect somewhere.

    Push Newcastle in China, with Sports Defect on every billboard………..Job Done!


  • Ibizatoon
    May 17, 2017 at 4:32 PM

    firebug…I just wish I could understand where this cynicism comes from!


  • hibbit
    May 17, 2017 at 4:33 PM

    not sure the rest of the world thinks as badly of SD as folk on here
    the people i know especially with kids love it !!!


  • Charlie in the Gallowgate
    May 17, 2017 at 4:34 PM

    Toonces

    Sad that there is not much pickings in the North East to pick from.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 4:36 PM

    Ibiza

    LOL! Cynicism??

    Just simply voice my opinion, He wants a global market for Sports Defect, and our beloved club is the perfect tool for him.


  • NezzaNUFC
    May 17, 2017 at 4:38 PM

    You could be on to something Firebug@14

    MA used this strategy to advertise SD and now the brand is massive because of NUFC.

    Fun88 would advertise our name and brand all over Asia and with our club history and status and the fact Rafa is here could open a potential buyer from Asia who has bags of cash to splash and make a name in the PL.

    Man city,Chelsea did it this way to attract mega chairmen so I don’t see why we can’t do the same,the blueprint is here and ready made but we are missing that tycoon chairmen 🙂


  • NezzaNUFC
    May 17, 2017 at 4:40 PM

    How much is Newcastle worth? between 200-300 million for full purchase?


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 4:49 PM

    “NezzaNUFC // May 17, 2017 at 4:38 PM
    now the SD brand is massive because of NUFC.”

    God bless your naive regard for the Toon

    The club needs fans like you .

    😀


  • hibbit
    May 17, 2017 at 4:57 PM

    NezzaNUFC

    Revenue £2.904.3 billion (2016)
    Operating income £223.2 million (2016)
    Profit £279.0 million (2016)[2]

    SD profit is about what the club is worth !!


  • ToonRich
    May 17, 2017 at 5:14 PM

    Tom Ince could now end up at Newcastle in a cash plus Grant Hanley deal…Thoughts?


  • ToonRich
    May 17, 2017 at 5:16 PM

    Newcastle United are interested in signing Sporting Lisbon’s William Carvalho after he put in a transfer request according a report from Portuguese publication O Jogo – The article seems a bit off as the claim Carvalho is a winger!!


  • Toonces
    May 17, 2017 at 5:18 PM

    Charlie – too bad indeed but at least the bit of global recognition remaining from the entertainers days, that Ashley hasn’t completely erased just yet, helps. Rafa staying helps and success on the pitch grows the toon army. Onward and upwards or however that goes. Anyway, at least Wonga is gone, and looking forward to the window opening and all the crazy rumours!


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 5:19 PM

    O Jogo (which means “The Game” in Portuguese ) is quite well regarded


  • Oldgit1
    May 17, 2017 at 5:24 PM

    @ ToonRich nah, don’t rate him, it’s interesting that every time we are linked to a player crystal palace is also. I have stopped reading about players we are supposedly linked to. I will wait and see. In Rafa I trust


  • ToonMauritius
    May 17, 2017 at 5:25 PM

    Hi lads
    Hope MA back Benitez in the transfer market. As CB we should go for Maguire & Shawcross, Midfield – Delph & Mooy, wingers – Fioresteri & Dolberg, Forward – Remy & Sturidge


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 5:32 PM

    http://www.ojogo.pt/futebol/1a-liga/sporting/noticias/interior/newcastle-sonha-com-william-carvalho-mas-sujeita-se-a-ouvir-falar-da-bota-sem-pitons-6224905.html

    According to this
    NUFC have offered 30 million
    To which the Sporting chairman (also called Carvalho) has responded rather impolitely something about his boot studs.


  • hibbit
    May 17, 2017 at 5:32 PM

    if there’s a deal on offer for Hanley I would rather have Will Hughes don’t rate Ince

    £5m and Will Hughes and they can have Grant LoL


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 5:35 PM

    Henry Onyekuru anyone


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 5:40 PM

    Hibbit

    Personally mate I’m not that impressed with most targets we are apparently after.
    I know we are back in the big time and baby steps are needed . But I thought we would be looking at better players than the likes of Ince or Hughes.
    If the likes of Stoke can attract big players then I’m sure we look a bit higher up the transfer ladder


  • lochinvar
    May 17, 2017 at 5:48 PM

    The financial benefits of building a mega fan base in the Far East is well documented.
    Understanding how that is achieved is something else.
    Success on the pitch is of course is a must but in fact excitement and pop star type hype is the key to brand appeal and the target market is often teenage/young adult with a large female following.
    That means some of our existing players have to develop their own stage personae or Mike has to dig deep and buy one or two international stars who can light up the media coverage.
    We shall see


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 5:49 PM

    We’ve also scouted Feirense’s Nigerian attacking midfielder Oghenekaro Etebo as well


  • Oldgit1
    May 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM

    Also a Belgium young player called Henry Onyekuru, 19 years old and a left winger/ striker. Impressive kid. Another Pl team is also in for him probably crystal palace.


  • toontaff2
    May 17, 2017 at 6:01 PM

    Loch, I think Big Isaac may have that covered 😛


  • anthc
    May 17, 2017 at 6:11 PM

    I don’t have an issue with the amount of money for the sponsor, it’s within the top ten of the pl. As someone rightly pointed out we are no Barcelona/ man utd so that comparison is a waste of time.
    We are being linked with some right duds imo. Tom ince not good enough, will hughes i dont think he’ll cut it in the pl, bloody phil bardsley maybe 5yr ago.
    We will be linked with every man and his dog but I think we need a bit better than some of the names being thrown about. Rafa will be very shrewd and savvy I’ve no doubt but at the same time I’m not expecting any superstars just yet. We have to give big incentives for players to come as most prefer to live nearest to the big smoke as possible although i hope playing for rafa may ease this a bit.
    What about sakho from the bindippers? Been at palace since January and was in the running for their player of the season. Bit of an attitude which was the downfall of his exile but when he’s played regularly he’s been very good. Maybe just needs a hug from fhe manager!


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 6:22 PM
  • May 17, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    Has it only just dawned on the rest of the world. Sky’s over-dramatised none transfer rumours they decide to make up have pushed betting markets for years.

    About time they were called out for it.

    http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/886050230?-11058:809


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 6:36 PM

    Sky “believe in better”

    Really trustworthy slogan. That’s why majority of people have kodi!


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 6:38 PM

    Jib

    Is that Pardew or Mctufty he’s hugging?


  • beermonkey
    May 17, 2017 at 6:42 PM

    jazzy

    I see most of the players we are being linked with as squad filler
    but we do need a bit of that

    a nice early marquee signing would get the window of to a great start


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM

    Can’t believe some are moaning about Wes Morgan who’s an experienced player but quite happy for the club to spend 20 million on Tom cairney who’s got no prem experience, don’t get me wrong he’s a good player but that’s a big gamble with that amount of money.


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM

    It’s actually Charlie Austin
    😀


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 6:48 PM

    Forget buying abroad, should aim for players with prem experience.


  • optimistic prime
    May 17, 2017 at 6:52 PM

    Like the new strip, maybe not the sponsor but really like the red numbers.


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 6:52 PM

    Mbemba linked to Burnley wtf!!!!!


  • hibbit
    May 17, 2017 at 6:54 PM

    welshwum 9
    spouts his normal garbage


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 6:54 PM

    Beer monkey
    Evening mate
    I know it’s early doors bud, But I just hope we aim higher than what is being touted at the moment.
    Picking out the best talent out of the championship is not necessarily the best option for the Pl do you feel ?
    I totally agree that a big player or 2 would indeed lift hope at the club.
    We have enough squad fillers at the club and need to push the first team forward


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 6:56 PM

    Welsh
    I think lads who watch the lad week in week out have more of a valid opinion than yours sunshine


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 6:57 PM

    Shirebrook
    Swap deal for Keane


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 6:58 PM

    Jazzy

    Best just to ignore him mate.


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 6:58 PM

    Jazzy

    That would be nice. Think he’s going back to Man Utd for 25mil 🙁


  • hibbit
    May 17, 2017 at 6:59 PM

    jazzyp
    the windows not even open yet time to step back and wait so far all we’ve had is gossip from the gutter press


  • Belfast
    May 17, 2017 at 7:04 PM

    Yep anybody who believes betting odds being suspended or being a strong favourite to sign a player actually means anything should definitely read that article. It’s all a big fat con and they are all involved in it, not just sky and sky bet.
    A lot of the national newspapers are involved in it aswell.


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 7:07 PM

    Sheff Wed must “do” Huddersfield tonight – right ?


  • beermonkey
    May 17, 2017 at 7:08 PM

    jazzy

    how goes it

    I think picking the best from the championship is good for a squad filler
    they will be happy to sit on the bench work with a manager like rafa they will also have a bit more to prove and there wages will be cheaper

    but it has to be blended with the extra bit of quality we need
    thankfully rafa wants then in before preseason so not to long to wait


  • anthc
    May 17, 2017 at 7:08 PM

    Wes Morgan hell no!
    A family member of mine is an avid forest fan and said he was absolutely garbage for them and was baffled when he was in Leicesters league winning team. I think some of their poor to average players played well above their levels last season Morgan being one of them. He is a big slow unit who ain’t getting any younger.


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 7:09 PM

    I’m routing for Wednesday tonight!


  • OneAlanShearer
    May 17, 2017 at 7:09 PM

    The rumour mill has gone even more nuts than usual. There’s no point reading a link at the moment because the next 30 links will be posted within an hour.


  • RUNAWAY777
    May 17, 2017 at 7:15 PM

    So 9th June to the 31st Aug is the transfer window give you all time to come up with some more names.


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 7:16 PM

    jazzyp

    Would you spend 20 million on a youngster with no prem experience.


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM

    Nottingham Forest only avoided relegation by a slightly better GD.
    How ticked off must Blackburn fans get when they look at Forest’s farcical home game against us.
    Two red cards rescinded yet no points adjustment – what a joke


  • Moonraker15
    May 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM

    Not Tom Ince! Please! He’s a journeyman average player! He’ll never cut it on the PL.
    We need Cairney! Sign him up!


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 7:29 PM

    What was it SBR said ?
    50,000 fans
    500,000 opinions
    He was so right


  • jazzyp
    May 17, 2017 at 7:40 PM

    Welsh

    I wouldn’t buy Morgan mate at any money.


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 7:43 PM

    C’Mon you OWLS !!!!


  • martoon
    May 17, 2017 at 8:01 PM

    Evening, a bit belatedly (because I’ve been on holiday) the results of our predictions – we predicted:-

    Poster…..Posit..Points.LC.rnd.FAC.rnd.POTS(Blog).TGS…TGS.goals

    martoon……1….102….3……3…….Hayden…..Gayle…..21
    clinath@ed ..1….91…..5……4…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..21
    StuW………1….98…..4……6…….Ritchie….Perez ….27
    JamesToon….1….107….5……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..22
    SUTTY1978 …2….88…..4……3…….Perez……Perez…..17
    Average_Cont.2….90…..5……6…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..18
    Spoof……..1….108….5……4…….Gayle……Gayle…..32
    firebug666…1….106….4……7…….Ritchie….Gayle…..26
    Belfast …..1….91…..4……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..20
    Bambams …..1….102….3……3…….Perez……Gayle…..23
    JP from The..1….106….4……5…….Hayden…..Perez…..19
    Goromagpie ..1….92…..5……6…….Lascelles..Perez…..20
    ShirebrookTo.1….104….6……4…….Lascelles..Gayle…..22
    SPRINGY …..1….101….5……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..23
    Offkey ……1….94…..4……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..19
    JAMSHA…….1….97…..7……7…….Perez……Gayle…..19
    geordie157 ..1….95…..6……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..22
    toontaff2 …1….105….4……3…….Hayden…..Gayle…..20
    Our Toon ….1….98…..5……4…….Diame……Mitrovic..19
    manxpie …..1….106….7……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    Jail for Ash.1….98…..7……6…….Lascelles..Gayle…..29
    welshgeorde9.1….93…..5……7…….Ritchie….Gayle…..29
    YoungMagFB…5….71…..3……7…….Lascelles..Perez…..16
    dannitoon….1….103….5……6…….Lascelles..Gayle…..27
    Tsunki ……2….98…..5……3…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..18
    jimmysmith…1….96…..4……5…….Janmaat….Mitrovic..23
    Termijn …..1….110….4……7…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..27
    Charlie in ..2….96…..6……4…….Hayden…..Gayle…..21
    jasper…….1….98…..5……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    Mag52 …….5….75…..5……4…….Lascelles..Gayle…..14
    nico………1….102….5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    bosamuelson..1….105….3……6…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..21
    outside box..1….93…..5……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..22
    funlovingexp.1….107….3……6…….Gayle……Gayle…..34
    ROSHAN MAG…1….111….5……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..25
    YouCouldn’t..1….99…..5……4…….Perez……Gayle…..23
    one fine day.1….98…..7……5…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..26
    southeastmag.1….98…..6……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..19
    WWSBRD…….1….102….5……4…….Ritchie….Perez…..23
    Fatman_joe…2….93…..5……4…….Perez……Perez…..15
    RolandoOver..1….101….4……8…….Hayden…..Mitrovic..34
    nut meg …..2….97…..5……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..23
    The Over F…4….80…..4……3…….Sels…….Gayle…..14
    Bearsize…..1….99…..5……5…….Mbemba…..Mitrovic..18
    Oleg G…….1….95…..5……4…….Perez……Gayle…..19
    Very Terry ..1….100….5……8…….Ritchie….Perez…..24
    Essex G Bill.1….117….7……3…….Shelvey….Gouffran..24
    Jib ………1….101….5……7…….Shelvey….Mitrovic..21
    CAC……….1….103….2……4…….Perez……Gayle…..21
    The American.4….80…..6……4…….Sels…….Mitrovic..18
    BoyNUFC……1….107….6……5…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..22
    emperor……1….88…..6……4…….Perez……Mitrovic..22
    Budge123…..1….92…..5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    G…………1….103….5……4…….Diame……Gayle…..18
    Toon_Tom…..1….97…..6……4…….Lascelles..Perez…..18
    sparky55…..2….89…..5……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..20
    Rafa Revolu..1….108….6……7…….Ritchie….Gayle…..27
    MadisonToon..1….100….5……5…….Armstrong..Armstrong.25
    Back DoorMan.1….132….7……8…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..30
    toon kk……4….67…..3……4…….Perez……Gayle…..21
    the white ti.1….107….5……5…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..24
    Ruddy Marv…1….110….3……4…….Mitrovic…Mitrovic..25
    bettyswalloc.1….98…..5……7…….Ritchie….Gayle…..28
    Kabul Fish…2….94…..6……6…….Mitrovic…Gayle…..21
    ToonfmExeter.1….92…..5……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..22
    Matt………1….93…..3……3…….Ritchie….Perez…..14
    Teamstoof….2….86…..7……3…….Aarons…..Gayle…..17
    lewisnufc….1….95…..5……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..22
    SpotlightKid.4….86…..5……3…….Perez……Gayle…..17
    barkel…….1….96…..4……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..22
    totsy……..1….97…..5……5…….Lascelles..Perez…..19
    roblee7……1….104….5……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    expatmag…..1….92…..5……4…….Diame……Mitrovic..18
    mickybraham..1….107….4……6…….Gayle……Gayle…..25
    thatmatt…..1….98…..6……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..21
    Toonboy……1….100….5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..27
    sirjasontoo..1….98…..5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..21
    TacoFlavored.1….96…..8……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..18
    Legolas……1….109….4……7…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..24
    Hail Wor Ash.1….100….6……5…….Perez……Perez…..23
    Mister Tuff..1….113….4……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..21
    Yo-yo……..1….101….6……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..19
    dok – the ho.1………..6……6…….Mitrovic…Mitrovic..24
    magscar……1….101….6……5…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..19
    loonie-toon..1….102….6……6…….Ritchie….Perez…..25
    north_c_boy..1….94…..4……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..21
    Fostino……1….95…..7……4…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..25
    Setchell…..1….107….5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    geordiesteve.1….93…..5……6…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..27
    jane………3….90…..3……3…….Diame……Diame…..15
    archaeomag…1….100….3……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..18
    mad-serb…..1….102….7……7…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..21
    El Sleeve….1….107….6……7…….Diame……Mitrovic..26
    Jammy-D……1….93…..4……5…….Anita……Mitrovic..21
    Blofal…….1….101….5……7…….Aarons…..Gayle…..21
    Munster Mag..1….100….4……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..21
    ScoopSouthAf.1….101….6……6…….Ritchie….Perez…..21
    OneAlanShear.1….101….7……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    off the ball.1….108….7……4…….Shelvey….Gayle…..29
    Oldgit1……2….94…..7……7…….Colback….Gayle…..19
    The one and..1….98…..5……5…….Perez……Gayle…..24
    Shot Bru…..6….84…..2……7…….Perez……Gayle…..24
    LaurentRob32.1….110….7……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    Wayayman…..4….82…..4……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..19
    Bobbybee…..1….103….5……6…….Ritchie….Armstrong.23
    lochinvar….1….101….7……5…….Perez……Gayle…..19
    Novocastrn66.1….105….4……5…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..25
    danf98…….1….94…..5……4…….Ritchie….Perez…..18
    giimps…….1….103….5……6…….Diame……Gayle…..19
    edtheduck….1….104….7……6…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..27
    even the ste.1….108….7……4…….Lascelles..Gayle…..25
    Obafan…….1….99…..3……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..24
    simon376…..1….107….5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    sussextoon ..1….102….6……4…….Aarons…..Mitrovic..26
    gonufc ()….1….91…..5……5…….Perez……Gayle…..23
    GeordieTwo…1….96…..6……7…….Diame……Mitrovic..21
    Hugh Jorgan..1….107….7……6…….Diame……Gayle…..25
    B1GSTEVE…..1….109….6……8…….Diame……De Jong…24
    kikgras……1….102….5……6…….De Jong….Gayle…..18
    The Ghost of.1….93…..7……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..26
    Magpie Myles.1….103….4……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..26
    U.S Magpie…1….97…..7……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..18
    chicousa…..1….102….3……4…….Mitrovic…Mitrovic..25
    Lilongwe Geo.1….96…..5……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..21
    hibbitt……1….98…..5……4…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..19
    brklyngeordi.1….111….7……5…….Mbemba…..Mitrovic..23
    Harley…….1….98…..7……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..20
    swemag…….2….92…..5……6…….Perez……Perez…..26
    always look..1….104….5……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..29
    GloucesterGe.1….101….4……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..22
    Spacepyramid.1….96…..6……5…….Hayden…..Gayle…..28
    TyneMouth….1….95…..5……4…….Sissoko….Perez…..23
    ToonRich…..1….103….6……5…….Diame……Gayle…..24
    yorkshiremag.1….104….4……5…….Diame……Gayle…..22
    Sazzer…….1….108….7……8…….Ritchie….Gayle…..31
    Goodfella….1….96…..6……5…….Shelvey….Gayle…..26
    Vask………1….121….7……5…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..34
    Toon Tang….2….89…..4……5…….Lascelles..Gayle…..18
    Moonraker15..1….95…..4……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    Thump……..1….102….4……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..18
    Graeme…….1….98…..6……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    MidlandsMag..1….115….2……8…….Hayden…..Gayle…..23
    Shearer.Milb.1….99…..5……5…….Perez……Gayle…..27
    sweendog…..1….104….7……7…….Ritchie….Gayle…..31
    DarloMag0773.1….98…..5……5…….Diame……Mitrovic..24
    Mr Funk……1….101….7……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    mallorcamag..1….111….7……7…….Perez……Gayle…..30
    LGFUAD21…..2….102….5……6…….Ritchie….Gayle…..24
    thegeordiera.1….104….7……5…….Anita……Mitrovic..24
    mattyNUFC….2….93…..5……6…….Ritchie….Mitrovic..26
    gazzac69nufc.1….102….5……4…….Lascelles..Gayle…..30
    Toonces……1….112….7……8…….Diame……Mitrovic..36

    Average/Mode.1….99…..5……5…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23
    Actual…….1….94…..5……4…….Ritchie….Gayle…..23

    Pretty hard to work out who is closest but I reckon north_country_boy & geordie157 are both pretty close although the Average/Mode was pretty close as well 🙂


  • AncientC
    May 17, 2017 at 8:04 PM

    That must have been quite a bit of work, Martoon. Thanks for posting.


  • Markaccus
    May 17, 2017 at 8:10 PM

    Martoon

    I posted mine as “you couldn’t make it up” I must be in with a shout. I got both cup rounds correct, the goal scorer and the correct number of goals. I was also only 4pts over our total.

    Your righy though, it’s tough to work out a way to judge it.


  • JackBall
    May 17, 2017 at 8:24 PM

    Frenetic scrappy game. fun to watch, but as someone said yesterday, SO GLAD WE AVOIDED THIS


  • kilcline
    May 17, 2017 at 8:30 PM

    Should target the following:

    Strikers
    Iheanacho
    Batashuayi
    Sandro Ramirez

    Wingers
    King
    Townsend
    Phillips

    Centre mids
    Carvalho
    Chamberlain
    Loftus cheek

    Centre backs
    Maguire
    Gibson
    Shawcross
    Keane
    Ake

    Left backs
    Gibbs
    Tierney
    Robertson


  • martoon
    May 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM

    Markaccus – I looked at Position, points (+/- 1) first then POTS and TGS – as you got Ritchie wrong I ruled you out but yeah you are pretty close with all the others. Depends how you judge – I’ll let other posters choose.


  • YoungMagpieFromBurnley
    May 17, 2017 at 8:38 PM

    Let’s just not talk about my prediction… Pretty sure at the time I was super depressed about something so I just had so much negative energy.


  • YoungMagpieFromBurnley
    May 17, 2017 at 8:42 PM

    Glad I was proved wrong anyway.

    Martoon

    Are you going to be doing this again for next season?


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 8:49 PM

    Come one Wednesday!!


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 8:49 PM

    On*


  • May 17, 2017 at 8:51 PM

    martoon
    Great work. We figured out a couple of days ago that Budge123 most likely would be the winner considering he’s 2 points from the actual.

    My suggestion for next year is that we all write in one thread and link to that one thread.

    Budge123 are 2 points from He’s 2 point from the actual so bette


  • G
    May 17, 2017 at 8:54 PM

    Martoon, thanks for logging and reposting the stats. Very interesting reading. I remember I was really thinking Toon 2nd to Norwich, and Perez to finish top scorer. Couldn’t recall what I put in the end. Will you be doing one for the Prem next season or was that strictly a one off?


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 8:55 PM

    1-0 Owls


  • martoon
    May 17, 2017 at 9:07 PM

    Sazzer – Budge123 – that’s a good shout I hadn’t noticed that one before.
    YMFB – Yeah I’ll probably do it again next year – it seems a lot of work but I have perfected a technique of copy, paste into a spreadsheet – once there they are easy to manipulate i.e. find mean/mode etc.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:10 PM

    Looking back over the season I’m still shocked at how poor Mitrovic was. Four goals and six assists in 25 Championship matches. A goal every 280 minutes played. Quite poor indeed given his credentials and what he cost. Murphy outscored him in far fewer appearances (5 in 14). Must part with Mitro if a decent price is still possible. I’m not sure what it would be.


  • martoon
    May 17, 2017 at 9:10 PM

    G – Cheers – yeah I’m planning to do next season – I normally wait until about a week before the first game so we can judge the new players in the friendlies etc.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:11 PM

    Yes thanks for that hard work martoon mate. You didn’t include my important extra stats of most fatwas issued and goalkeeper with the skinniest feet but well done still to you.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:14 PM

    Unbelievably poor season by Mitro. Was he our biggest disappointment? I’m not even going to consider Gamez. He was hopeless from the off.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:15 PM

    I’m going to come out and say it then. For me Mitro was the biggest disappointment of the season by far.


  • toontaff2
    May 17, 2017 at 9:17 PM

    1-1 – welsh’udders9 ‘ll be chuffed!


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 9:18 PM

    Game on

    Welshowl9 will be well pisssed!


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:19 PM

    Rafa will have to be quite clever with his sales. And we will clear want a couple of loan players in since Ashley will never give him huge amounts of cash to play with. I’m not sure what to do with Perez. Thirty six champs appearances with 9 goals and 7 assists. Had long stretches where he looked lost or unwilling to fight for the ball. Could easily get lost in the Prem as well. He’s valued at 8M euros on Transfer Markt.


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 9:19 PM

    We sold Janmaat the day after I nominated him for player of the year, and Mitrovic as top scorer with 23 which was only coal boxed by Rafa’s decision to marginalise him without consulting me. So as usual life has conspired against me, but otherwise I was pretty much on the money, so I’ll consider it a pyrrhic victory.

    Still on the topic of Mooy and Cairney who I like. They are of the calibre that would add to the group, but it is also important that we get two or three others in of even better quality in key positions, primarily centre forward. Negredo quality or better, and a Townsend quality winger, a top keeper if Krul isn’t going to return to the fold as a genuine no.1, and also a starting centre back, a notch above what we have.


  • May 17, 2017 at 9:21 PM

    Welshroyal9 will be bricking it.


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 9:24 PM

    Welshcottager9 is sobbing his little heart out


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 9:28 PM

    Is it a penalty shootout at Hillsborough or does the Hudd goal count double ?


  • Jib
    May 17, 2017 at 9:29 PM

    extra time first presumably


  • toontaff2
    May 17, 2017 at 9:32 PM

    ‘Away goals don’t count for double in the play-off semi-finals. If the scores are level after 180 minutes of action then it’s straight into extra time. Still level – penalties.’
    Found somewhere!


  • toontaff2
    May 17, 2017 at 9:33 PM

    ‘Boro Gatette, or some odd publication!


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:33 PM

    If you look at the average number of goals predicted for Mitro it looks to be in the mid 20’s. For Perez it’s high teens or low 20’s. We were completely fooled by both of them. Was it the way Rafa set the team up or are they both hugely overrated? Maybe a bit of both?


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 9:35 PM

    I’m reading the Steve McMuffin “expert” opinion on BBC Sport Football. Why ask him for his opinion? He’s hopeless. Might as well as a random person off the street.


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 9:41 PM

    McMuffin, “expert”, hopeless, random. Haha! Four precise blows in quick succession. Very good, even if a bit cruel.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 9:43 PM

    GeordieTwo

    I think it’s difficult to call on Mitro and Perez, More so Perez who played a couple of position that didn’t seem to suit him. He did start to show a bit more towards the end of the season.

    Mitro while missing a load of good chances, did put himself about, harried defences and created space for other players.

    We seem to forget that both are still only young players with plenty of time to mature and develop their games. I would give both another season to see how the develop.


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 17, 2017 at 9:43 PM

    G2

    You not a fan of Mitro then?


  • G
    May 17, 2017 at 9:45 PM

    G2, bit of both on Mitro and perez I think. Perez was bought for the sprog team, but progressed into a Prem player fast. Needs a little more protection from refs but should comd good I hope? Worth another season I feel before the knee jerk. Mitro I fedl is the weaker of the 2 as he is either grafting his knackers for the cause and achieving little, or standing static thumping his ches waiting for the Hollywood pass. Too unpredictable which one shows up for the game. Personally I would backheel him, but again, he might be worth the risk of giving him another season. Maybe tell him to spend hisSummer with a shrink to sort his head out!


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 9:51 PM

    You girls i mean guys are so funny.


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 9:52 PM

    Don’t give up your day jobs guys. That’s if you got one of course.


  • manxpie
    May 17, 2017 at 9:53 PM

    mitro got the equivalent of 15 games and got 6 goals and 6 assists not bad for someone who didnt a get a run all season


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 10:01 PM

    ……and Perez played in a part of the pitch that was heavily compressed by numerous pumped opposition defenders and never gave up and got better as the year progressed.

    Both are good young players, who have the capacity to develop in to worthy regulars in a Newcastle team punching its weight in the top flight. Lots of ways that might not happen, but while it remains on the cards I doubt they’ll be moved on.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 10:02 PM

    Since Mitro joined the club on 21st July 2015 he has made 33 appearances 26 of them as a sub and scored 13 goals, played 3 FA cup games with no goals, and 2 league cup games 1 as a sub, scoring 2 goals. He is only 22 years old, so still has time to develop.

    Would like him to stay as he has a lot of passion for the club, and maybe that is what need to be channelled.


  • G
    May 17, 2017 at 10:05 PM

    Firebug at 107, send in the shrink mate


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 10:07 PM

    He is less nuts though nowadays. A bit nuts is good.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 10:07 PM

    G

    As long as it helps him to score goals. 😀

    He has also scored 4 goals in his 3 international games this season.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 10:08 PM

    Looks like Sheff and the Udders are going to the wire here.


  • firebug666
    May 17, 2017 at 10:09 PM

    jimmysmith

    This season he had 4 yellow cards and no Red cards so a massive improvement lol.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:18 PM

    I’m hoping to hear more discussion of Mitro and Perez. I think Mitro was hugely overpriced when we bought him. I think we were hoping he would be another Andy Carroll but without the glass legs. Instead he’s much less able to score. I would definitely part with him. Perez is a different matter. He does show flashes and he’s only 23. I don’t think we can afford the risk of keeping both of them. We need a much more consistent and healthy goal scorer in. Gayle has proven to be another player with legs of glass. We’ve gone far too long without a dependable top flight striker. Time to fork out and commit.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:19 PM

    Shootout coming now.


  • manxpie
    May 17, 2017 at 10:23 PM

    wat the fusk was that penalty!!
    bloody want sheffield wednesday up aswell


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:24 PM

    Does Mitro really suit the Rafa approach to footy? I’m not sure he does. I think Rafa will look for a far more mobile striker and buy him at least partly with the proceeds for Mitro. Could see him going to the Italian league. They love players with emotion.


  • manxpie
    May 17, 2017 at 10:26 PM

    get in


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:27 PM

    Mitro will love the pasta and wine. And some lovely lasses as well.


  • manxpie
    May 17, 2017 at 10:28 PM

    ffs barstewards


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 10:28 PM

    Yeah I’d cash in on Gayle over fitness concerns and a lack of ability to be a target, bring in a Torres or Negredo “type” and retain Mitro as the understudy and alternate, and Murphy as back up for the final season of his contract. Cairney or DeJong if fit along with Perez would give us enough at 10.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:30 PM

    Not bad jimmysmith mate. It could happen that way but I think Rafa will want some dosh for Mitro. And Murphy will leave as well.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:31 PM

    I think Murphy was a one time get us oot of the Champs deal to be moved on in the summer. We’ll have a good old clearout.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:31 PM

    Hudders to Wembley then.


  • GeordieTwo
    May 17, 2017 at 10:32 PM

    I think Hudders will be joining us and Brighton in the Prem. A good team to thump twice as season.


  • manxpie
    May 17, 2017 at 10:36 PM

    the team was set up for carroll it certainly hasn’t been set up for mitro it still mistifies me that much more often than not when mitro was on the pitch crosses didn’t happen as soon as he left they did


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 10:37 PM

    Well Murphy is a good experienced International player, with at least another good year in him, an exemplary pro and a good guy to have around the group, who might well love a swan song in the EPL at a club like Newcastle, even if it is as third choice. So I’m not so sure G2, but yeah he’s vulnerable.


  • lochinvar
    May 17, 2017 at 10:37 PM

    PRUTTON PREDICTS: 1-1 – Sheffield Wednesday to win on penalties

    So who believes in karma now ?


  • lochinvar
    May 17, 2017 at 10:38 PM

    Hdn’t realised that Fulham didn’t make it ….will Cairney move up a league now with us ?


  • G
    May 17, 2017 at 10:40 PM

    I don’t think Mitro’s main problem is ability, he has lots, I think he falls in the same bracket as MBemba, and that is trust, and ability to follow Rafa’s game plan. He clearly does not field able players who cannot do either. I hope neither player is beyond help, but suspect given what is at stake we may never find out.


  • SPRINGY
    May 17, 2017 at 11:09 PM

    what rounds did we go out the cups….anyone know?


  • welshgeordie9
    May 17, 2017 at 11:13 PM

    1st round.


  • jimmysmith
    May 17, 2017 at 11:36 PM

    We need Rafa to unearth a Pablo “Picasso” Zabaleta type. What a great signing he has been for City , and would be a great addition for us even now with Rafa’s project to sink his teeth into. But I suppose West Ham will throw money at him, and he’ll go there in semi retirement as a result, and somewhat inevitably disappoint.


  • magspuggy
    May 17, 2017 at 11:43 PM

    And what round did your club go out welshtroll9 ?


  • Sir Eric
    May 18, 2017 at 12:02 AM

    I think part of the reason we gambled on Mitro was his showings in the Champions League with Anderlecht. He did well and scored vs Arsenal & Dortmund at a young age.

    The fee was big, but I would think a chunk of it was based on his potential. To me at least, players in his mold take a little longer to develop. I’m hoping we have the patience to stick with him as he can offer something a little different to what Gayle can.

    Does he fit the Rafa system? Not quite. But, he has proven he can be an impact off the bench.

    Rafa rightly didn’t trust him for a long time, but Mitro has shown signs of discipline- he’s been less focused on getting himself into fights than last season. I think his next step with us would be to work on getting into better positions in the box, as he doesn’t really seem to find himself in a position to score. That being said, we hardly ever cross into the box when he’s playing.

    I hope we give him at least another year but bring in at least another 1-2 strikers. 1 to replace Murphy, and 1 to be our starter as I do think we will want a better striker than Gayle to guarantee us goals.


  • Tsunki
    May 18, 2017 at 12:04 AM

    Welsh I believe you are allowing yourself to sink into a slough of despond. Chin up!


  • Tsunki
    May 18, 2017 at 12:08 AM

    Mitrovic was always a hope against hope that he would actually be good. But even in the championship his lack of awareness, poor positional sense and complete absence of speculative interception showed he is never a natural striker. Passionate and brash yes. Any good? Nah.


  • Tsunki
    May 18, 2017 at 12:09 AM

    But on the positive side, somewhere in Europe there is a Cheese Festival. 🙂


  • manxpie
    May 18, 2017 at 12:30 AM

    wat in his 11 starts tsunki? thats some going like!
    11 starts 6 goals 6 assists proper shite awareness, proper shite positional sense…….
    any good? i would say so


  • Lindisfarne
    May 18, 2017 at 12:35 AM

    Barcelona have been linked with a move for Tottenham midfielder Moussa Sissoko, but AC Milan and Real Madrid are also interested in the 27-year-old. (Don Balon – in Spanish)

    LOL


  • manxpie
    May 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM

    haha that means at least rotonda will be on saying how the fusk rafa let him go and beat him with it forever!
    the truth is tho shows how shite them leagues are and why the prem is the best league in the world


  • cyprus
    May 18, 2017 at 5:48 AM

    I predicted Reading to be the third team up and maybe that will happen. Despite scores, they outplayed us too.

    But who was it that pushed us till the last couple games? Whose results were we constantly checking?

    Huddersfield.

    Maybe they deserve it more.


  • cyprus
    May 18, 2017 at 6:02 AM

    Interesting conversations below.

    I guess mitrovic divides and rightly so. He hasn’t been an amazing success and he hasn’t been a failure.

    So the jury is still out.

    My take: ‘opponents’ have been clutching at straws to condemn him. He took the ball off Ritchie to take a penalty! He is a red card waiting to happen! He’s not a natural!

    I think the lad hasn’t been given a proper run. Even when he’s scored he’s subsequently dropped. He holds the ball well, gives the rest a chance to come in. We haven’t played to his strengths or told him you da man. He’s still learning. He’ll come good.

    Still, like I said, it could go either way. That’s why we need negredo.


  • Charlie in the Gallowgate
    May 18, 2017 at 7:00 AM

    Mitrovich

    Me I would keep him – When he came here he was very raw and RAFA has found it difficult to knock the raw edges off – BUT – I have seen a difference in his play during the last few weeks. Might not be scoring the goals but his al-round game has improved – his link up play bringing other people into the game and can pick a mean pass i.e. for ATSU’s goal the other week.

    I would keep him still has a lot to learn and I think he will improve again this season.

    Saying all-that I would bring in another centre forward/goalscoring forward


  • ShirebrookToon
    May 18, 2017 at 7:39 AM

    Think it’s helped Mitro by having Murphy here aswell this season.


  • The overrated Frenchman
    May 18, 2017 at 7:47 AM

    Funny how most of the Mitrovic knockers are the simple minded, “in Rafa we trust” arse-licking contingent. (Sorry Ed, but you are included there.)


  • hibbit
    May 18, 2017 at 7:52 AM

    and the mackem returns


  • martoon
    May 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM

    Test:

    Poster…..Posit..Points.LC.rnd.FAC.rnd.POTS(Blog).TGS…TGS.goals

    martoon……1….102….3……3…….Hayden…..Gayle…..21
    clinath@ed ..1….91…..5……4…….Lascelles..Mitrovic..21


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