Newcastle Legend – Rafa Is Frustrated – There’s No Doubt About That


Bob Moncur is a Club Ambassador and while he was part of the Newcastle Board of Directors who went out and signed Rafa 17 months ago. we are not sure what the makeup of the Board is now other than Rafa

We are not sure what the makeup of the Board is now – other than both Rafa Benitez and Lee Charnley run the club for owner Mike Ashley.

While we did well to get Jacob Murphy and Javier Manquillo into the club last week for around £15M initially, Rafa is frustrated again as Newcastle have gone after more targets recently but have not been successful.

Rafa Benitez in his new training gear
He’s still frustrated

Bob Moncur was of course captain of Newcastle United when we last won a trophy at Newcastle back in 1969  (The Inter-City Fairs Cup) when I was still a young lad and Bob has freely admitted today that Rafa is frustrated in this transfer window.

This is what Bob has said to the BBC as reported in the Shields Gazette today:

“I think Rafa’s frustrated – there’s no doubt about that,”

“But I think at this time of the season – the next two or three weeks – things might change a little bit and there will be more movement.”

“He’s a good manager with a great record, and I think if anybody’s going to bring us back to where we should be – competing at the very top.”

“Rafa’s the man.”

Rafa Benitez is the 7/2 bookmakers’ favorite on the sack race website to be the next (first) Premier League manager to leave his post in the coming season.

Bob Moncur – Club Ambassador

That’s a huge surprise to us and we would be shocked if Newcastle struggled this season against relegation – but that’s why we must bring in some very good players for Rafa this summer.

Fighting against relegation next season would be too much for a number of us older veteran fans – my heart just wouldn’t be able to take it.

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What do you think?

Comments welcome.

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A note about grammar – we will now refer to Newcastle and Newcastle United in the singular – so we will say Newcastle is interested in this player rather than Newcastle are interested in this player – it’s grammatically correct – it’s just never sounded right to me.

That’s the end of the English lesson for today.

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33 comments so far

  • toontaff2

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #1

    ED, there are a few posters who could do with a longer English lesson 💡
    So, is Bob Moncur no longer on the board?

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  • martoon

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:48 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed – I would consider Newcastle United to be a collective noun and so using ‘are’ is acceptable. After a bit of Googling it would appear it is a British thing to use plural verbs and an American thing to use singular verbs so I guess it should fit your target audience!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #3

    A few of my colleagues and friends here who follows the PL but not Newcastle think we might be candidates for the drop…

    …we are far behind the other teams in terms of quality and we haven’t improved the quality so this window…It was hard to disagree with that argument!

    And we had relegated twice in a very short period of time…both times we thought it wouldn’t happen to us…we do tend to suggarcoat it up here as they say…

    I don’t think we will be relegated but we do tend to see our situation quite differently than the rest of the world…a bit naive!

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #4

    Yeah, the approach prior led to a badly dispirited group, but the backing in that window and the commitment of more to follow was of an amount that suggested a genuine tilt at top 8.

    Ashley had little choice but to do right, so bad had things gotten, but to give him his due, since then he’s backed the manager and let Charnley and now Benitez run the club without too much interference.

    They can spend the profits as they see fit, and he’s also been prepared to inject his own money in to keep things on an even keel when needed. Nothing much to currently complain about as far as I can tell, and it’s been like this for a while.

    Other than SD getting their free advertising, and the shirt sales of course. Against that though Ashley has paid off a potentially crippling debt, and since been prepared to pump more money in when needed, interest free and not expected it back.

    The club was very poorly run in some significant ways for 8 years under Ashley, but for the last two, McClaren appointment aside, although he was a Charnley appointment, just as the delay under Carver a Charnley decision, it’s been very good. As I said he had little choice but to do right, so bad had things become, but nonetheless, pretty good from the owner for a couple of years now.

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:52 AM

    Comment #5

    Can someone advise me please.
    When i log on the blog i go to a page about 2 days old showing the heading about Clukas as a target.
    I am having to go through the different pages to get up to the latest.
    What am i doing wrong please ?

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  • Bobbybee

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #6

    Jail, when I said McClaren it was because he was head coach. Didn’t see the point in naming the entire board as the point of the post was the money, not the people involved. The point was about when Ashley stood back and gave McClaren & Co the money to spend and told them to get on with it without his interference. Is that better? 🙂

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  • scout

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #7

    Have we actually bought one player who is proven in the Premiership?
    As for we won’t be struggling against relegation Ed I don’t see how we have improved the squad massively. Huddersfield have and Brighton have, the German lad, he’s streets ahead of any of our signings.
    Ashley has a real problem with investment, to the extent where the manager is probably going to walk.
    Why would he stay? He’s making him look a complete mug searching for cheap options all the time.
    Should have a top striker in by now, people saying don’t panic, you’ll be saying that when we’re back in the Championship. Wake up ffs

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  • lochinvar

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #8

    Bobby as Club Ambassador ( and Director ? ) shouldn’t be making statements about Rafa being frustrated as that hardly sends out the right tone unless he’s trying on Rafa’s behalf to put pressure on Charnley to get the act together on transfers. A more upbeat Comment would be more helpful.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:56 AM

    Comment #9

    Aye Jimmy,
    I have to agree, apart from the hiring of Carver and Mclaren and then persisting with Mclaren before the inevitable relegation we’ve been run really well.

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  • toontaff2

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:58 AM

    Comment #10

    According to transfermarkt we are 10th highest spenders in the PL, this summer.
    Less than a million behind Bournemouth, 8 million behind West Ham and ‘Udders. The top 6 are Citeh, Chelski, Manure, Everton, Arsenal, Liverpool.
    10 PL clubs have spent less. 2 have spent 0.

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  • Bobbybee

    Jul 25, 2017 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #11

    Stan, when you log on it takes you to wherever you were last reading the blog, which in your case must be two days ago. I think that’s so you can catch up.
    Alternatively you can go to newsnow Newcastle and find the latest post and join that way bang up to date.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #12

    Ignore the grammar, we don’t need it and it just looks so wrong, I prefer “Newcastle are” anyway, as when speaking of Newcastle we speak of them as a collective, so for me “Newcastle are” is correct.

    Anyway, of cause Rafa will be frustrated, along with many other managers trying to acquire their targets, this was always going to be an uphill struggle having just been promoted, and not having the new Premiership mega payout this year.

    Rafa knows the club have to operate within their means and will be aware that we cannot afford any big name marquee signings just yet. so we are looking at maybe the best of the rest.

    There is still time left to get the job done, as for Rafa being odds on to be the first Prem manager out the door……….well it’s a way for the betting companies to make money I suppose!

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  • scout

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #13

    Jimmy smith
    Running it pretty good for a couple of year we’ve been in the Championship. His complete lack of ambition and investment is beyond a joke.
    As for run badly in the past, mate I watched Newcastle United in 2 FA Cup finals, the Champions League and UEFA Cup before I was 16.
    If that’s running it badly I’ll take that please, all day long.

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  • Jack Root

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #14

    jesper ” a bit naive”

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #15

    Eds right. An entity is still a single item even when composed of multiple parts. Like an army. Or a club.

    Now let’s address the use of “you and I…”

    🙂

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  • Jib

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #16

    This
    was what all the excitement was about yesterday.
    There was also a PSC09
    Folk added 2 + 2 and got 5 (as per usual)
    In fact all companies need to register Persons with Significant Control, and this was just them registering what is already in place.Probably at the request of HMRC at the conclusion of their investigation.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #17

    Bobby,
    They weren’t given free reign though, they had to be U25 with potential sell on value, that’s why we’ve been desperately short of defenders all these years because there’s deemed to be less sell on.

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  • toontaff2

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #18

    Scout, what German lad?
    Brighton have spent 11 million on 6 players. Matt Ryan, goalie, 5.1 million – record transfer.
    ‘udders 36 million on 9. Mounie, Ince and Mooy being the majority of that money.
    Who have Brighton or ‘Udders bought, that is PL proven?
    Please enlighten us.

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  • martoon

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:06 AM

    Comment #19

    stan anderson – Go to the top of any page and click on the title ‘The Newcastle United Blog’ – this should take you to the home page and then save this page as your favourites/bookmarks.

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  • Jack Root

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #20

    Jimmy
    So if we don’t get the key ST and other few signings to make us a top ten side who will the majority on here blame?. Surely it shouldn’t be Ashley ?
    Rafa seems frustrated but only due to current state of market. We could well have to wait until filter down from big five spending and need to recoup.

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  • Bobbybee

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:13 AM

    Comment #21

    Loch, I think he’s just expressing how the entire club is mate. Everybody is frustrated because this window is a bitch and that includes Rafa. It’s not that we’re not trying to spend the money, I think the frustration comes from the prices for a start, but also players not wanting to come to the grim north east when they can choose to go to London first. We’ve seen that more than once sadly. God only knows what they think it’s like up here! 🙂
    Maybe he should have said the club, but chances are he was specifically asked about Rafa. Then again, who knows, he might well have said the entire club, but the writer, having asked about Rafa, decided to say Rafa in his piece. The problem is with these articles is they ask loaded questions, but only write the answer down, not the question.

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #22

    Ashley owns the club and he put Penfold in a very important position.
    He also was the one who had Carr in a very important position on a lengthy contract.
    Was it not Ashley who allowed a bunch of coaches be appointed who took us to the lowest points.
    Surely the buck has to stop with him.
    Regardless of how well the finances are we the fans want to be entertained and be competing in all comps.
    We now have a coach who has been so successful in most of his career and he stayed with us after we dropped out of the P/League.This was brought about by Ashley also,so i give him credit for that.
    But he is capable of screwing the whole thing up as we are all aware.
    We the fans are called delusional,but all we want is to be able to compete with some very much smaller clubs in the P/League and maybe give the big guys a fright now and again.

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #23

    Thanks for the advise guys.
    I will try to improve my tech skills.lol

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  • santon3

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:20 AM

    Comment #24

    rafa is frustrated, yes definitely. Like any managers especially with the market price has gone insane, who wouldn’t? Even Conte with that much money to burn still feeling frustration.
    Rafa is probably more frustrated with selling players like riviere, saivet, lazaar, haidara since nobody wants them.
    I don’t think moving Krul will have any problem.

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  • Mag52

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:23 AM

    Comment #25

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    I’m not sure we can compare what we have spent so far in this window with what other PL clubs have spent, as we start off from a far lower position than most of those in terms of quality.
    We don’t know exactly why Rafa is frustrated, but frustrated he must be as the Spurs match is not that far away now, and we are still desperately short of at least a couple of real quality players.
    If it turns out that Ashley is still sticking his oar in and haggling over loose change, causing Rafa to fulfill the bookies forecast, this will be the grossest error of his miserable time as owner of this club.

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  • Jib

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #26

    Benitez does cast his net wide!
    Newcastle are linked with Brazilian attacking midfielder João Paulo Mior (26)
    He is 60% owned by Botafogo who paid 3 million Brazilian Reals(£731,899.52) for their share.
    The price quoted is €10 million
    http://br.blastingnews.com/esporte/2017/07/vai-sair-joao-paulo-entra-na-mira-de-dois-clubes-europeus-001874211.html

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 25, 2017 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #27

    toontaff2@10 – They are interesting figures but the problem is they already have better squads for the Premier League than we have. We have to do so much more just to try and catch up. That’s why it is so frustrating at the moment. Unless we buy two or three TOP class players, especially striker and midfield, this squad isn’t really fit for purpose.

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  • Jib

    Jul 25, 2017 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #28

    wynsleap
    Not fit for purpose is bit OTT
    better than Huddersfield and Brighton
    on a par with Burnley and Watford
    probs give WBA Swansea and Bournemouth a good game

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 25, 2017 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #29

    Jib – Would you really put your money on us staying up if we don’t add to this squad?
    You say better than Huddersfield or Brighton but I think those two will go back down again anyway…..with?

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  • BarcelonaMag

    Jul 25, 2017 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #30

    Just a note on grammar, Ed. I’m an English language teacher at Barcelona University and I can tell you that it’s perfectly correct to say “Newcastle are a big club.” When you refer to collectives or groups you can use the singular or the plural: the government, the staff, the board is or are ………… In fact, in some cases the plural is more common. You say “The police are doing a good job”, not “The police is doing a good job.”, even though it’s a singular noun. So, I might pick you up on other things but not this one! Right, my fee is €50. “My fee are €50” is wrong!

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #31

    Nice one Barcelona but you’ve just given Ed a headache now!

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #32

    Don’t agree with that Barcelona Mag. In this context “Newcastle” is implicitly Newcastle United Football Club. Singular. As is the “Police Force” for which one would say “is doing a good job”. “Newcastle are” or “the police are” are generic expressions.

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  • BarcelonaMag

    Jul 25, 2017 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #33

    By “generic expressions” I suppose you mean common usage. That’s as good a criterion as any to judge the acceptability of what people say or write; it means you’re taking a descriptive approach (how the language is actually used) as opposed to a prescriptive one (how people in theory should use it). In any case, by saying “Newcastle United Football Club” and “The Police Force” you’re bending the meaning and referring specifically to organisations rather than groups of people. But, we don’t want to bore people, do we? I do know what I’m talking about, though. As Pardew used to say, “Trust me on this one”!

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